Mathematically the answer is 4! x 12 keys (ignoring the double naming of some keys) = 288. However, as with triads, standard music theory only recognises the Root inversion (e.g. Cmaj7/C - root note in bass); 1st inversion (e.g. Cmaj7/E - major 3rd in bass); 2nd inversion (e.g. Cmaj7/G - perfect 5th in bass); 3rd inversion (e.g. Cmaj7/B - major 7th in bass) the order of the notes stacked above the bass note is ignored. So "standard" chord theory only give 4 inversions of a major 7th chord in 12 keys, so 48 in total. In other words there are two answers, either 288 (maths based answer) or 48 (standard chord construction theory answer).
@WizardOfArc7 жыл бұрын
Zon Brookes you totally beat me to this. When they were mentioning permutations - my brain went straight to factorial. 4! * 12 keys * 4 inversions. 24 * 12 * 4 = 288 * 4 = 1152
@andrexmfful7 жыл бұрын
Hi Scott!! Your lessons have really changed my bass playing. Thank you for sharing all this top level stuff for free here on KZfaq. As soon as I start working I hope to join the academy because it really is incredible. I just wanted to throw this idea out there because I noticed you have a lot of subscribers but I think that there is not enough for how good your stuff actually is and that may be due to a language barrier. For example: I'm originally from Brazil, so I only started watching your videos after I moved to America and learned English. I just think what you are doing is so good that you should have millions of subscribers. Maybe (but I am not sure about this) having translations on a couple of main languages could double if not triple the number of subscriptions! God bless, man!!
@beckym82453 жыл бұрын
I learnt loads from Phil Mann at SBL. My favourite teacher there!
@samjyang42097 жыл бұрын
4* 3 *2 * 1 = 24 for permutations in a key x 12 keys = 288
@brettmarlar41547 жыл бұрын
6 permutations per inversion. 4 inversions per 7th chord. 12 keys That's (6×4)×12=X 24×12=288
@TheBassgoddess7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Scott & Phil !! Great video ... very informative.
@Zzmorgan557 жыл бұрын
using the four notes in any order, there are 288 combinations possible. Using the standard inversions, the number of permutations in all 12 keys is 48.
@MrPrincebass997 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I need to know more about, taking it to the next level. By the way, that bass....sweeeet!
@joannalewis5279 Жыл бұрын
Years later this is so interesting still
@EnekoSanchez7 жыл бұрын
There are six permutations for the arpeggio without inversiones (1357, 1375, 1537, 1573, 1735, 1753), then 3 inversions, so 6+6+6+6=24 permutations in just one key. For 12 keys, 12 times 24 equals 288.
@sam_bellavance6 жыл бұрын
4 x 3 x 2 x 1 (number of ways to order notes) x 12 (number of keys) = 288 permutations
@szamtartozsolt-attila48667 жыл бұрын
well, if we don't count the root in an octave higher and stay within one octave then my answer is 288 possibilities. 6 permutations per inversion and no permutation is repeated. if we should use elements in octave positions the numbers multiply exponentially depending on how many elements we use within the range of multiple octaves.
@DanielAdeyemo84557 жыл бұрын
(4 notes x 3 permutations x 2 inversions) x 12 keys = 288 :)
@sambecker10537 жыл бұрын
Great video guys! Really enjoyed it! The answer is 288!
@hnriquevieira7 жыл бұрын
There are 1152 permutations. I thought it was 288, but that's always playing the lowest note first. Taking root position as an example, we can play any of the four notes first. So it becomes 4x3x2x1=24. 24 permutations per position, 96 per tone and 1152 total.
@WizardOfArc7 жыл бұрын
Henrique Vieira I didn't realize this was an older video 😮
@nathanlyrakis77337 жыл бұрын
4x3 x2 x1 = 24 for permutations in a key x 12 keys = 288
@stephenbobic32267 жыл бұрын
Loved it! And the answer, as everyone else said, 288,
@quatre037 жыл бұрын
you can do 48 different permutations in all 12 keys if you don't allow repetition of the permutations during the inversions
@arthurmee7 жыл бұрын
It's a shame that two different names are given for what the subject is here, namely 'chord tones' and 'arpeggios'. Beginners are likely to take some time to realise that they are one and the same thing.
@EleventhLetter_Casino6 жыл бұрын
arthurmee I can vouch for that lol. When I was just beginning, it took me a while to realize there wasn't much of a difference between the two.
@TundrahSounds6 жыл бұрын
To different parts of the same thing. The actual chosen notes that make a chord , and when they are played. Chord tones describes what tones are played. The arpeggio tells us when they are played.
@brianjosephmedia10864 жыл бұрын
Well not really, arpeggios are made of chord tones, they're not exactly the same thing.
@chukaitao7 жыл бұрын
Any chance we can have Phil give us a lesson in resolutions?
@pablo.fernandez.gonzalez7 жыл бұрын
288 in Spain!
@jimlynch1636 жыл бұрын
permutations of a 7th chord in a single position, 4 notes available, is 4 * 3 * 2 * 1 (aka 4!) is 24, there are actually 15 -written- major keys, you mention 12 actual major keys. so, it's 12 * 24, and the way I can keep it in my head, is if I turn it into 12 * 2 * 12, and I know 12 * 12 is 144, times 2 is 288
@Introspectiverider997 жыл бұрын
Great stuff!
@samuelgreen72487 жыл бұрын
There are 6 possible permutations, and 4 possible inversions. Times these two together = 24 (and that's just one chord!) Translate this to all 12 keys and you have 288. Wow, time to get in the shed! ;)
@wufwuf93747 жыл бұрын
288! a year of hard work for sure!
@WizardOfArc7 жыл бұрын
1152 ( 4 notes have 24 possible orders, for 4 inversions for 12 keys )
@bassist123457 жыл бұрын
I can't come up with any. Perhaps this book would help me? ;)
@fdnogueira7 жыл бұрын
I'm going to take a chance with 288. Cheers!
@JT-hx6nt7 жыл бұрын
288, and now the trick is to practice them all in one day!!
@iankjenkins7 жыл бұрын
Isn't it 4x3x2x1 for permutations of one position of a maj7, multiplied by 4 for all the inversions, multiplied by 12 for all the keys. So, 1152?
@gedleytighe7 жыл бұрын
(4x3x2x1) x 12 = 288 ouch!
@wethepeople16852 жыл бұрын
there are actually 30 keys, major minor and sharps and flats.....Anthony Jackson teaches this...
@OlandoMcCall4 жыл бұрын
I can't find this book anywhere
@abhijeetsingh94507 жыл бұрын
great video mate and now to the main thing I've calculated all the possibility of all maj7 in a single key which is 12 and multiplied it by 12(total no. of keys) which gives us a total of 144.
@Analogkidd7 жыл бұрын
288 of course
@andreasfleiner46717 жыл бұрын
I would say 1152
@ChristianOOwusu7 жыл бұрын
nice bass! what type of fender is it?
@cliffordchaperon67956 жыл бұрын
288 (4 factorial = 28 X 12 = 288)
@ReubenFalle7 жыл бұрын
288! Love the videos Scott, Im 18 and at uni doing music Production, but getting madly into Bass, and want to become the best :)
@K100music7 жыл бұрын
My face is melted but I'm gunna say 288
@jb_CartriteBand7 жыл бұрын
3072. Great chat with 2 great players. Nice bass BTW.
@szamtartozsolt-attila48667 жыл бұрын
John Bettencourt hi, how did you come up with that number?
@jb_CartriteBand7 жыл бұрын
I figured 4 cord tones to the power of 4 multiplied by 12 keys. Probably wrong but I figured I would give it a try.
@szamtartozsolt-attila48667 жыл бұрын
Correct it ;) you still have a shot ;) you can delete this whole comment and do your math ;) if you want to, of course...good luck
@jb_CartriteBand7 жыл бұрын
Szamtarto Zsolt - Attila maybe I'll get points for creativity.
@HitTheB4ss107 жыл бұрын
288, so many to learn
@CAPONEWRLD7 жыл бұрын
1152 or 288
@bencoutts24375 жыл бұрын
288! And yes I used my calculator haha
@robeggers55603 жыл бұрын
I thought there were 15 major keys, C, 7 sharp, 7 flat.
@playercss17 жыл бұрын
288 !!! Hope I'll win
@dowellkidd7 жыл бұрын
Personally... 1 😂 I think I need this book
@tvalus7 жыл бұрын
288 is my answer
@thephunk17 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna go all out and scream 288.
@romeothomas39016 жыл бұрын
Hey Scott, you will get 288 Permutations!
@linivxx7 жыл бұрын
1152 right?
@shaynealdana87897 жыл бұрын
144 x 2 with inversion 288
@user-sm4ks9io2n3 ай бұрын
2500+ permutations
@armbarfan4 жыл бұрын
Man I'm 3 years late to the 🥳. Oh well 288!
@stevegregory4367 жыл бұрын
1152
@GlennMichaelThompson6 жыл бұрын
1x2x3x4 = 24 24x12 keys = 288
@ceruleanstone7 жыл бұрын
Yes, it's 288.
@Reaperromero897 жыл бұрын
24
@ZENSIBLE4 жыл бұрын
= 288 Btw you forgot to Add Phil's Link 🔗
@neilfernandes50567 жыл бұрын
Look at all of us breaking the 'Bass players are stupid' stereotype. 😀 Anyway, 4x3x2x1=24 and 12 keys, so 288. Cheers!
@migueltarintorres66207 жыл бұрын
3072 daaaaamn
@Brianwilkes787 жыл бұрын
12 key is 288
@supercoolninjacactus7 жыл бұрын
the anwser is 288
@Amhiel7 жыл бұрын
That'll be... 4!*12=288 wow
@adamabdulrahman19327 жыл бұрын
288
@mrlucius577 жыл бұрын
My music teacher asked us this last semester 288
@matthewedwards58077 жыл бұрын
288!!!
@ahsmen-tennis87007 жыл бұрын
288?
@adamsimonsen34067 жыл бұрын
144
@grayjones37797 жыл бұрын
288. Is the answer....
@WobblyJackMcFruit7 жыл бұрын
Dammit, I never thought of checking other peoples' answers. I'm a dumbass. ;) Anyway my personal HAL-9000 says 288.
@jonathangriffin45947 жыл бұрын
288 ... I think. unless it's a trick!
@WizardOfArc7 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Griffin don't forget inversions. 24 Permutations for note order ( in time ), and 4 inversions ( in pitch ) and 12 keys. - 288 * 4 = 1152
@blsw7 жыл бұрын
288.
@ClJNT7 жыл бұрын
No idea
@tomsjespers52307 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna say the answer is 288
@gioopagan99237 жыл бұрын
288 boom
@gioopagan99237 жыл бұрын
could really use that book!
@dylancarter86927 жыл бұрын
4! x 12 = 288
@ThoughtThinkerTomas7 жыл бұрын
dude, 3, 3 permutations. so easy.
@briancollis18096 жыл бұрын
Too many for my slow brain to remember! lol (naw, I think its 1152)
@CAPONEWRLD7 жыл бұрын
The Answer to The question Is 288. See you scott. peace.
@koth157 жыл бұрын
288 :)
@BrudnyHarry10007 жыл бұрын
288 Greetings !
@mikehopper16747 жыл бұрын
1440 because there are technically 15 keys.
@sontonyuchiha13467 жыл бұрын
288 to easy fam
@gordonblues8433 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but... jazz...
@B2Bass7 жыл бұрын
I find it really hard to listen to Phil, this distracts from the potential great info he has to share.
@WizardOfArc7 жыл бұрын
Nam Trab he speaks a divergent dialect of English than Scott
@WizardOfArc7 жыл бұрын
I mean different
@hellobaby1337 жыл бұрын
He speaks with a regional accent and that has nothing to do with his intelligence, all you have displayed is your ignorance.
@LouisL19637 жыл бұрын
Phil's from London, so it's a version of the classic "cockney" accent. It's still English, but not "The Queen's BBC English" (otherwise known as "Received Pronunciation"). You have to have lived in Essex, London, or the South East of England to understand it, and having met Phil and had a chat with him, he's a Diamond Geezer....