If the beach scene in the trailer was 100% actual gameplay and you could theoretically drive a truck through all those NPCs without the console exploding then I'll be impressed.

Look, if RDR2 is anything to go by, it'll be absolutely epic. And this came out on old hardware. We'll be blown away no doubt

Is every GTA trailer gonna come with two 36 minute videos?😂😂 I'm here for it

I like that Oliver's head tilt matches the overlay window

8:30 - The way I see it, if people are thinking about whether the game would come to a next-gen Switch, they shouldn't be worrying about it running on Series S lol

From the team that brought you “too big for switch?”, here comes “too big for Series S?”

I think Series S should have matched the One X in having 12GB of RAM at 320GB/s memory bandwidth. Cutting the memory and bandwidth was a worse decision than the Teraflop/core cut.

Amazing coverage guys.

I have been consuming gta 6 related content, and you guys deliver again! Your very good at balancing different scope of videos on topics niche and not niche.

I'd love to see a 40 fps mode, such as in Ratchet & Clank

I have an inclination towards thinking in regards to the series S when scenes don’t demand reflections or RTGI they’ll scale those things back to maintain higher resolution/more stable frame rates and of course SSR as back up for reflections and SSGI as well but we’ll see

Gta 6 started full development in 2018 after Rdr 2. Before GTA V different Rockstar studios worked on different games. Gta V changed that mind set (because their projects became more big and ambitious) and all studios started working on the same project. Olie is totally right.

They surely have to be developing a separate version for Series S to fit the 8GB restriction and the PS5 and Series X versions being another version they can use the 12 gigs on. I just can't see Rockstar leaving those extra 4 gigs unused, they will want this game to be all it can be.

Oliver still stuck in his gamecube. Olli, break free man!

I cant wait to see how Baldurs Gate is running on Series S.

Another large issue with Duke Forever is Broussard kept adding to the game new ideas over and over. Which basically meant older ideas and things of that nature did not have the oppurtunity to have iterative development.

Robocop on Series S almost died in the sniper's nest area, lol. Frame rate crumbled..

Great talk guys, man, I can't wait to 2nd trailer to come out and your special about that.

“Possibly the biggest game trailer of all time” - Possibly? Is there any doubt? By all metrics it is #1 heh

Wasnt table tennis their first game using the rage engine?

There's no way for me gta 6 would be a 60fps game. They always prefer to maximise everything on screen to looks as good as possible that it's worth for them to make it only 30fps. Personally I don't mind. R* always pursue that "cinematic" focused experience and 30fps for me is perfect for that.

Great breakdown guys! Put on my nerd goggles and turned up the volume. Awesome 👏

current hardware will run this game at 1440p30. Next-gen in 2027-2028 will have a "definitive edition" of GTA 6 on 4K60 probably.

How do you guys think the game will handle carnage and destruction, especially which such high fidelity graphics and animations. The first trailer didn’t show any violence or explosions, I wonder how that would look in the game? Will we see frame rates drop? Will the number of NPC’s reduce?

remember guys, rdr2 was NATIVE 4K on XBX... when you have enough money to throw at something, hardware is less of a thing.

2:50 In case of Talos Principle 2, I would totally take this level of fidelity cuts to be able to play the game for the puzzles and story.

2:02 That zoom lmao

I think going to 720p would give enough room for vram to be used in textures

Generally, what holds games back across gens is CPU performance. Graphics can be turned down (within reason) to accommodate less GPU and memory, but the fundamental code and physics cannot. Think about PC games, there are very few settings that can be changed to overcome a CPU bottleneck compared to a GPU bottleneck.

Big boy trailer analysis is here!!

I’m here for every single gta 6 video you guys make Your RDR2 break downs were amazing as well as everything else I’ve seen of course

I want to take the Phantom Wedge on that beach so badly

It’s going to be a special time for gaming that’s for sure! Look what they achieved with Read Dead 2 on old systems. I have 100% confidence that Rockstar will blow us away. Simply can’t wait!

Bit of a sidenote following on from the PS5 Pro question: Zen2 seems an odd choice for the Pro given they're already building a new APU die and using a new node (probs N4P 4nm/5nm+); why go through the trouble of porting Zen2 over to the new chip and the new node when Zen4c is available? Whichever way you cut it, they're already building a new and distinct chip. Just using Zen 2 again seems like an abritrary workload for small gains when there's a disproportionately large performance gain to be had in choosing Zen4. Relative percentage of the die area used will be about the same, so the long term cost of production would be roughly the same. Sony would have had ample time to tape out Zen4c-based APU designs (more than they had for Zen2 on the base PS5). Back Compat doesn't seem like a viable excuse given that PS5's Zen2 is flawlessly running 99.8% of games from PS4's Jaguar (a totally different ip/architecture). I don't buy for a second they can't run PS5 Zen2 titles in a PS5 Pro Zen4c environment. For Zen2 I don't see the angle for financial reasons, I don't see it for die size/complexity reasons, nor for time/taping-out reasons or for BC reasons. Zen4c just seems like the perfect option. I honestly think a lot of these rumours are based in the idea that "Zen 2 is old, so it'd be cheaper to just reuse it because they'll wanna save money" - not taking into account that they're engineering a distinct, new chip anyway (even if they use and port over Zen 2 IP) and cost is already being sunk; cost that would be better sunk into something much better being implemented. It's not like they can just slice off the CPU/Zen2 portion of the PS5 APU and dump it on a new APU for a Pro. That's not how it works. With the PS4 Pro they used the Jaguar again simply because nothing new within that architecture was available. It was already end of the line. This time, we have Zen3, Zen4/4c, Zen5/5c.. Let's say they bump Zen2 to 4.2GHz and double the cache [back to its default amount vs base PS5]. You're probs looking at a ~23% performance gain. But Zen4c at 3.85GHz [w/ half its default cache but the same as Zen2's default and twice the size of the base PS5's]. You're probs looking at ~60% performance gain. The latter is a design-win and a performance-win. I see no argument to favour Zen2 over Zen4c for a PS5 Pro arriving from Q3 '24 onwards. I can't get my head around Cerny approving this route unless there's been some major issue/setback in the testing/tape-out process that forced their hand. Choosing Zen2 would be arbitrary. Almost on par with the Sony of "let's not put a second analogue stick on the PSP". My hope with GTAVI is 30fps & 40fps on base PS5. Then a Zen4c-based PS5 Pro with a 30/40fps mode with upgraded visuals and a 60fps mode with the same visuals. Then perhaps, an "up to" 120fps Frame-Gen VRR mode. -------

Rockstar is THE BEST game studio EVER

Great work

With two billons dollars budget, the level of optimisation need to be perfect, with this budget they can put one developer for each line code of the game

I still think the trailer was running target software but not on target hardware. that is how they mean the game to look, 1440p~ish, 30fps. with those settings. but it was most likely running on a high end pc. Alan Wake did similar thing all their trailers were ps5 settings on high end pc unless said otherwise

I really hope it has Raytraced Audio at some point,or maybe it already does...?

When people say GTA 6 took ten years to develop, do they just forget that Red Dead Redemption 2 exists?

Now that Xbox finally has BDG3 , I was wondering if DF will show us how the Series -S runs the game . Like always I'm sure the Series -X will just run it the same as ps5 has.

864p rdr2 on xbox one to potential 720p on GTA VI. Amazing.

90 seconds Foundry dropping new vid!

You guys should have used Alex's expression here somewhere in the thumbnail: 32:08

I’ve always wanted to know.. what does Alex have against the badgers? Why is he hunting them? 🤔

Nice coverage. The truth, it was a nice video, OMG GTA 6, finally. The truth is, we don't really know that much. Rockstar could have time to really optimize the game before it even gets close the consoles. It could 60fps across the board. We don't really even have a reference point. If this was shown running on XXX hardware and got XX performance, you would have a reference point. We have a single video that was 1 min and 21 seconds. Nothing much more than that. Thanks for picking apart the video, I am looking forward to it.

Regarding the Matrix Awakens demo comparison: The difference here is that UE5 uses virtualized geometry to achieve these extreme levels of detail. It is not clear whether the Rockstar engine has anything that is close to Nanite in capability. Maybe they use at least a mesh shading pipeline.

Hope for a 4k native image at 30fps if ps5 pro will drop

I definitely feel like they could at least get a really solid 40fps mode on the PS5 Pro right??? Seems like an obvious, reasonable upgrade. Especially if the game is also reasing on the Series S. Getting 40fps on a PS5 should be super easy, alongside a higher resolution.

Also, Rich, this talk is so much better than the last one. John is straight up becoming obnoxious and can’t do tech reviews without trying to push his opinions all over them, while at the same time trying to frame them as facts(like on music even, which is some of the most subjective things out there). And then he tries to play unbiased when he obviously has a favorite side/thing, which is even more annoying.

I appreciate DF's Alan representation.

A lot of games (alan wake 2 for example) are only considering 60 fps performance modes for xbsx and ps5 because they also have to optimize for series s. They are using the series s specs on the higher end consoles and its targeting 60 so for this reason gta 6 may be 60fps. This wasn't the case for their other games. So, we have a unique scenario

I think Alex is absolutely right in that Rockstar is delaying the PC version because they know a lot of PC gamers also have consoles, who will buy the game at launch. These people are then also very likely to buy the PC version when it eventually launches. It basically comes down to greed. As always.

One Love! Always forward, never ever backward!! ☀️☀️☀️ 💚💛❤️ 🙏🏿🙏🙏🏼

"no reason why anyone has a 10 series" i can name several infact, multiple have to be the price of newer cards being unjustified

34:20 Maybe, rockstar isn't afraid of adding latency..

Hope to see a 40fps mode at 1440p.

Perhaps rockstar will implement Sampler Feedback Streaming on the Series S to get more outt of the little ram it has.

Couldn't there be a 60FPS mode on the PS5 Pro?

I think rockstar would be stupid to not have a 60fps option, it will potentially lose them a lot of money. This generation millions of players have become accustomed to 60fps and i believe a large portion of people can't go back to 30fps, I've personally tried too and i just can't get used to it, if they can make a stable 30fps Series S version they can do a 60fps PS5/Series X version. They're spending the most money ever on a game surely they have the resources to optimise a 60fps option, i personally won't buy the game if it doesn't have 60fps

Something important to note is that DLSS, Frame Gen & RR is going to be more evolved in late 2025!

I was under the impression that the MAIN REASON why Rockstar never brought GTA5 to the Switch is the lack of storage as cart sizes are far too small to contain the game without being crazy expensive AND the internal storage of the base console (pre OLED model) is only 32GB which is like nothing. I can't speak to if the features on display here could run on a theoretical Switch 2 but if they've fundamentally addressed storage from both their cartridge size/price ratio and internal storage then MAYBE they would feel compelled to find a way to make it work. I doubt it would be at the launch of the game but I would at least think it POSSIBLE to bring the game to the platform in the future.

If the series s does more than upscaled 1080p 30fps I'm gonna be pleasantly surprised

Imagine waiting a decade for GTA VI only to play it on a Series S

I really hope we get a new Rockstar Table Tennis in 2024!!

Is it possible they can use a lower cost, lower quality, more performant version of GI for the Series S? Surely how GI is calculated can be simplified a little bit and toned down right?

Absolutely lost it at 16:30

It's getting to the point where graphics are getting so good I think 60 fps should be the baseline.

The HUD in the leaks is just a debug build with ImGui printing relevant testing and debugging info, you can also see that the build or cfg used in that client is built with unstable or Debug flags, to turn off or scale down the graphics scale. So that the debug rendering in ImGui is less taxing.

Keep in mind none thought the Witcher three and all the crisis remastered would be able to run on the switch. Every one counted on the switch not holding its own. Boy am I glad they was wrong lol.

Yeah, its not just the lighting, a mobile port would need to have more primitive hair physics, significantly smaller crowds, and so many other compromises that it wouldnt even be worth it.

I wonder if you'll be able to shoot guns and steal cars.

God of War Ragnarok and Horizon Zero Dawn Forbidden West were released on PS5 ALONGSIDE PS4, and nobody was saying "PS4 is holding back the generation" Also the "only possible on PS5 game" Ratchet & Clank Rift Apart runs fine on the Steam Deck. And pretty sure Valve will want this game running on a Steam Deck.

Drop it down to 1080p and drop all raytracing to pull out a performance 60fps mode. Thats what I'd like to see. They could do more if need be to pull it off.

PC better have hair slider making that stuff look even pristine.

Rockstar are masters in “baking” realism into their game ala the PS3 Gran Turismos or even the older ones on PS2. That’s why GTA V still holds up imo. It’s like an open world version of those. Not that impressive from a tech POV, but the assets and how it’s tuned(colors, contrast etc) is just perfection

Gta 6 needs to have a performance mode for 60fps i just can't go back to 30fps after years at 60

I'm just praying for vrr support

Rockstar Table Tennis still holds up! And it’s backwards compatible on Series X/S!

Let's take a guess as to how big this game is going to be?

I still can't believe the RT features for GTA 5 weren't moved over to PC. It's such a boneheaded decision that you'd almost rationalize it as malevolency.

How will the PS5 SSD be utilized and is the XBX comparable at this point?

First video I've watched in probably a year with Oliver in it, glad that they fixed their mic/got a new one!

60 fps wasnt the norm on ps4 gen on any game .

Why would you say “possibly” the biggest game trailer of all time, it IS the biggest of all time

Maguire is my favorite character of the show so far

PS5 Pro sounds like the PS4 Pro. Slight 30% clock increase on the CPU cores and doubling of the GPU processing power. The most the P4 Pro could do on a game was hit 45-50 fps on a 30fps PS4 game. I expect that this will be the most we'll see on a PS5 Pro.

My biggest question will be whether it releases with the same crowd, traffic & 'stuff' density that is shown in this teaser? Or whether the optimisation passes will reduce density. Will be very interesting to see the PS5 Pro version, if that arrives before PC

GTA 6 will run great on Series S. People forget GTA 5 is literally a 360/PS3 game...

I expect a 2026 release based on rockstars track record.

i think 60fps will be an option on ps5 and series x and itll have some cut backs 60fps

Any analysis of BG3 on Xbox?

30fps is ok sometimes when it’s smooth but starfield felt so hard to shoot because of the choppiness

"Experience this on mouse and keyboard." Just no.

"it's for boxes, not for real people" Is that a German expression of some sort? I found it interesting

Haha a GTAV "Remaster" for Switch 2 (and for PS5Pro and Xbox Series Next) sounds right on point.

And won't NVIDIA likely be up to like DLSS 5.0 by the time this game ships? As they mention, who knows what advanced technical features will be available in 2 years?

I hope it has a 40fps mode

What about 40fps? A nice compromise altough unlikely :(

Yea I feel like they beat up a technical marvel of a trailer GTA is cutting edge always