DF Retro: SNES Mini Preview - A 16-Bit Tech Showcase!

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This week's SNES Mini reveal has John excited. Here's his breakdown of the key titles in the line-up, how they expanded on the SNES's core technology - plus thoughts on key titles that should have made the line-up.
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@SolidTheMighty
@SolidTheMighty 7 жыл бұрын
How the holy mother of god did they not get Chrono Trigger in the SNES Mini???
@christopheryeo8534
@christopheryeo8534 7 жыл бұрын
KangarooBeard Than Super Metroid? Really?
@pacmanweeee
@pacmanweeee 7 жыл бұрын
Nintendo owns super Metriod they don't have to pay anything.
@mewgiah8057
@mewgiah8057 7 жыл бұрын
ValenKnight Square. Cost too much money. In fact that is why there is only 21 games vs 30. It cost a lot more money for those SNES third party titles. If they got Chrono Trigger it would have been $100+ for the system, or they would have had to cut more titles down to 16-18 total. I’m personally sad we didn’t get Turtles In Time. But I think this is the best they could do overall while keeping the price under $100
@mulderscully3707
@mulderscully3707 7 жыл бұрын
+Emily Richards Emily stfu.
@gabrieleriva651
@gabrieleriva651 7 жыл бұрын
Super Metroid is Nintendo's: they don't have to pay license to anyone. But Chrono Trigger is Square's, and Square has been VERY reluctant to put any of their game on the Virtual Console or PSN/XBLA, only re-realising at full price on handled (Final Fantasy II at 40$ on the PSP in 2008?? Really???). You can still buy Chrono Trigger DS new at 30$. It's A MIRACLE we get Final Fantasy VI/III, albeit with that choppy original translation.
@HansBoopie
@HansBoopie 7 жыл бұрын
When talking about the SNES audio, I'm surprised that yo didn't mention how Tales of Phanasia used samples in its opening song to create vocals. The SNES was truly a glorious machine.
@Astfgl
@Astfgl 7 жыл бұрын
Ooooh, I can already not wait for the next DF Retro video! The Legacy of Kain remains one of my favorite game series, and Soul Reaver was an absolute technical masterpiece for its time. The Dreamcast version was also the first game that demonstrated Nixxes' prowess in creating high quality ports. This is gonna be good.
@bombkangaroo
@bombkangaroo 7 жыл бұрын
Kain was deified.
@Astfgl
@Astfgl 7 жыл бұрын
The clans tell tales of him.
@hector4470
@hector4470 7 жыл бұрын
Astfgl Still have my Dreamcast version such a great game especially that version :).
@viniciusmaidana2159
@viniciusmaidana2159 7 жыл бұрын
few know the truth...
@Astfgl
@Astfgl 7 жыл бұрын
He was mortal once, as were we all.
@DevinMoney
@DevinMoney 7 жыл бұрын
Here's the games list Contra III: The Alien Wars Donkey Kong Country EarthBound Final Fantasy III F-ZERO Kirby Super Star Kirby’s Dream Course The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past Mega Man X Secret of Mana Star Fox Star Fox 2 Street Fighter II Turbo: Hyper Fighting Super Castlevania IV Super Ghouls ’n Ghosts Super Mario Kart Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars Super Mario World Super Metroid Super Punch-Out!! Yoshi’s Island
@Isaax
@Isaax 7 жыл бұрын
Devin Money Neat, I can work with that
@skydragonslashu
@skydragonslashu 7 жыл бұрын
If you can get ahold of a Wii U. You can softmod the wiiware side of it and play your shit over HDMI I did it to mines.
@DuckAlertBeats
@DuckAlertBeats 7 жыл бұрын
skydragonslash Hey..what's your recommendation for the most reliable way to sodtmod your wii u? I have modded the original Wii but never messed with Wiiu softmods..quite fancy doing that this afternoon :)
@charizardoreo
@charizardoreo 7 жыл бұрын
couldve used DKC 2 and 3, and Chrono Trigger
@__G___
@__G___ 7 жыл бұрын
Devin Money so a lil over $4 a game, not bad
@Moshugaani
@Moshugaani 7 жыл бұрын
If I had to choose *_ONE CONSOLE_* _(and its entire library)_ for the rest of my life, it'd had to be the Super Nintendo. SNES graphics and sound are great, something that many retro-style games today try to replicate, and the library is robust with lots of variety from _almost_ every genre. I usually like simpler games anyway, so I wouldn't miss today's complex and epic games too much.
@peterguillam3778
@peterguillam3778 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent lighting, no jarring cuts in the middle of on camera dialogue, smooth and unnoticeable editing technique, an extremely clean audio track, not to mention an easy going and likable presenter who knows his stuff and is clear in his delivery. Take note, viewers and KZfaqrs. This is the watermark to which all KZfaq videos should be produced. Digital Foundry is top of that list!
@lanasrj
@lanasrj 7 жыл бұрын
only DF can make a preview like this, before release, so fun and informative. Thanks John!
@retrosoul8770
@retrosoul8770 7 жыл бұрын
John you really need to do a df retro on the best Genesis games that really push its hardware. I'm talking about Alien Soldier, Thunder Force IV, Gunstar Heroes, Musha, Adventures of Batman&R, Contra Hard Corps etc. The system deserves the love, it's undeservedly underappreciated.
@mazimadu
@mazimadu 7 жыл бұрын
@24:30 OOOOOOOOOOOHHHHH!!!!!! SOUL REAVER!!!! I'm From Nigeria and we LOVE this GAME!
@daeldd1524
@daeldd1524 7 жыл бұрын
which part i lived in oyo some months!!! ASEEE
@mazimadu
@mazimadu 7 жыл бұрын
Lagos!
@Nukle0n
@Nukle0n 7 жыл бұрын
But the european SNES also looked like the Super Famicom, isn't this a british show? :P
@paradoxzee6834
@paradoxzee6834 7 жыл бұрын
Nukleon John is American but yea Richard is British
@charizardoreo
@charizardoreo 7 жыл бұрын
Eurogamer is from UK (hence the name) but John is american
@liamedwards2517
@liamedwards2517 6 жыл бұрын
Also, (from UK) we never referred to it as the ‘Super NES’, it was just the SNES.
@vintatsh
@vintatsh 7 жыл бұрын
Great video, I really like the look of the 16-bit games and what they were able to achive with the hardware. Can't wait till mine arrives.
@ibraibraibraibraibra
@ibraibraibraibraibra 7 жыл бұрын
Genuinely said "this is what I'm looking for" when this turned up in my feed. Haven't even watched yet but I'll know it'll be good. Cheers John.
@TheGaluMoD
@TheGaluMoD 7 жыл бұрын
Another awesome episode of DFretro :) Can't wait for the next one. Coincidentally I just finished Soul Reaver on NullDC (with a couple of fairly tolerable visual glitches) a couple of weeks ago.
@hateWinVista
@hateWinVista 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent video,love these DF Retro videos!
@tweltery
@tweltery 7 жыл бұрын
Loving the S.S.H. music throughout the video. Excellent work as always, John.
@mbe102
@mbe102 7 жыл бұрын
Damn, Startfox on an OC'd FX chip looks amazing. Like, the way they designed the game.
@Marcoboyle00
@Marcoboyle00 7 жыл бұрын
Stadium ARTs 20fps is "amazing"?
@mbe102
@mbe102 7 жыл бұрын
Come on now :P, for what it was, back in the day, that would've been awesome to see. I've got a 144hz Monitor, I'm not chomping at the bit for 20fps ;P, don't worry.
@Marcoboyle00
@Marcoboyle00 7 жыл бұрын
Stadium ARTs I was obsessed with virtua racing on the mega drive which has a similar chip to allow 3d images and polygons. I played it till my thumbs blistered and bled. But looking at that now and even the improved 32x version as well as at starfox - in context they were impressive but I personally don't think I can look at any and say they are amazing. everyone's different ofc and entitled to their opinions,, but i think it's important to be objective
@pegasusdrive12
@pegasusdrive12 5 жыл бұрын
I still find it funny that someone overclocked a SNES.
@marekvrbka
@marekvrbka 7 жыл бұрын
Did not mention Chrono Trigger! RIOT! RIOT! W66
@charizardoreo
@charizardoreo 7 жыл бұрын
neither did Nintendo when deciding SNES classic games
@lwouisYT
@lwouisYT 7 жыл бұрын
Amazing work as usual. The point developed on Megaman X about simultaneous vertical+horizontal scrolling enabling new level design blew my mind. Really impressed to learn so much from your video guys, keep it up!
@sayresyDevino
@sayresyDevino 7 жыл бұрын
Great video and your knowledge of these platforms is the icing on the cake..
@ERMediaOfficial
@ERMediaOfficial 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the Terranigma shoutout. Probably one of my favorite games ever. Everything about it is just amazing^^
@Lukashmfe
@Lukashmfe 7 жыл бұрын
Nice one! I'm glad DF Retro is back. :)
@Gabriel2Silva
@Gabriel2Silva 7 жыл бұрын
Holy crap, S.S.H. in the background blew me out! DigitalFoundry never ceases to amaze me!
@Genkaku
@Genkaku 7 жыл бұрын
I called for Actraiser, one of my childhood favourites and favourite games of all time, before the video so I am glad he included it. Good taste my man!
@nomisastro2000
@nomisastro2000 7 жыл бұрын
Another stellar and great piece of work John, loved every second and so looking forward to Soul Reaver, incredible game.
@KazeEternal
@KazeEternal 7 жыл бұрын
really stoked to see DF Retro LoK:SR impatiently waiting.
@Arcadiality
@Arcadiality 7 жыл бұрын
Fantastic vid. I'll definitely be tuning in for the unbox and strip down (of the SNES mini, that is). 😀👍🏻🕹
@RyuHazuki82
@RyuHazuki82 7 жыл бұрын
Another great video and cant wait next week, that surprise really got me. :D
@razor000999000
@razor000999000 7 жыл бұрын
really looking forwards this been released, I found this really easy to get hold of too, had 3 pre orders with 3 different vendors, and all 3 pre order been confirmed.
@finanzberater8669
@finanzberater8669 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for mentioning Terranigma.
@guiomiranda
@guiomiranda 7 жыл бұрын
I love this series. How they analyse classic games. I aways wanted something like this on youtube
@zero2x
@zero2x 7 жыл бұрын
Legacy of Kain! :D! What a nice surprise at the end of the video, Soul Reaver is one of my all time favorites, can't wait to see the full episode, thanks DF.
@WhatAboutTheGame
@WhatAboutTheGame 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent work as always!
@jamescameron149
@jamescameron149 7 жыл бұрын
My personal all-time fav' console. Thanks for the review!
@pinokotsbeer6453
@pinokotsbeer6453 7 жыл бұрын
DF retro episodes are soooooo good!
@willgibbins171
@willgibbins171 7 жыл бұрын
I'm in the UK and I've pre-ordered it already. I'm so excited!!
@darxav
@darxav 7 жыл бұрын
Brillant DF Retro once again John !
@kimlima2113
@kimlima2113 7 жыл бұрын
Hi John! Thanks for the awesome vid! a) As far as I can see, you didn't answer your intro question what Nintendo has learned from the release of the NES Mini. I may miss some points, but I guess they mainly learned that delivering a low stock of a highly sought-after machine is the perfect way to get free buzz and media coverage. So, I am quite sure what we'll see in the future. Thinking of it, I wonder when the first publisher will come up with the idea of a limited digital download or a preorder-only game. Wait and see. b) I actually owned an original Rendering Ranger R2 cartridge some 10 years ago but sold it on eBay, hehe. The price was nothing to write home about though.
@mastersofurmouth
@mastersofurmouth 7 жыл бұрын
First time I heard that Donkey Kong Country underwater music it was the best music I had ever heard in a game!
@toonpik7
@toonpik7 7 жыл бұрын
I love the way John talks about this topic. You can tell he's really dedicated to the SNES.
@renehoyvik
@renehoyvik 7 жыл бұрын
I have my original SNES hooked up to my tv with the RGB connector from my N64. Looks great and even scales well enough to widescreen.
@samnzdrum
@samnzdrum 7 жыл бұрын
13:43 - he has reverb on his voice when he says "reverb". Love that detail :)
@anthonyreynoza8535
@anthonyreynoza8535 7 жыл бұрын
I just realized I was at digital foundry I was thinking halfway into the video wow this is some in depth stuff let me see what this guys channel is lol
@SBandy
@SBandy 7 жыл бұрын
Terranigma is incredible and I would love the opportunity to play it again!
@jaymzx2587
@jaymzx2587 7 жыл бұрын
Yesss!! Can't wait for the Soul Reaver episode man!! Fantastic voice acting and great gameplay, what a gem 💎
@Anonyminded
@Anonyminded 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome ep, thx John! And next ep is Legacy of Kain and Soul Reaver, hell yeah!!!!
@PaddyMcMe
@PaddyMcMe 7 жыл бұрын
Please do an episode dedicated to the extra chips found in gaming cartridges, you're the only channel that can possibly do a good job of it!
@Ammah786
@Ammah786 7 жыл бұрын
Great breakdown enjoyed the video well done
@campos3452
@campos3452 7 жыл бұрын
I was just playing Soul Reaver!? Nicely done cant wait!
@Xpert74
@Xpert74 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for another amazing video! The Super NES is my favorite console of all time, and I always love seeing stuff focused on it :)
@sir1junior
@sir1junior 7 жыл бұрын
I had to add a lot of these games to my must play list.
@videogameobsession
@videogameobsession 6 жыл бұрын
I'm also surprised to not see pilot Wings on this as well
@Klarden
@Klarden 7 жыл бұрын
Oh neat, next week will be interesting. Time fades even...retro? hope you've enjoyed checking the good ol' Raziel's box pushing adventure :)
@bewsket
@bewsket 7 жыл бұрын
I think one game that everyone misses in the "could've been on snes mini" videos is Earthworm Jim, that game blew my mind as a kid.
@padlockbeats151
@padlockbeats151 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent Video!!
@narlzac85
@narlzac85 7 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the Legacy of Kain episode. That clip brings me back
@TremiRodomi
@TremiRodomi 7 жыл бұрын
I know this video is about games on the SNES mini, but i'm surprised that the original Star Ocean and Tales of Phantasia weren't mentioned at the end of the video. Those games pushed the hardware to it's limits with their massive amounts of voice samples, great use of the SNES' sound chip in general, and lots of colorful, well animated graphics.
@andrewaguilar752
@andrewaguilar752 6 жыл бұрын
Damn, the Gradius III intro is so good
@Dhlamedia
@Dhlamedia 7 жыл бұрын
Linneman surely shows a soft spot for those children platformers. First Keio 2, and now Doremi.
@sumitupadhayay2270
@sumitupadhayay2270 7 жыл бұрын
I wish they give us an OG ps1 or ps2 nostalgia trip via df retro one day.
@498fun
@498fun 7 жыл бұрын
With the announcement of original Xbox backwards compatibility on the One and that glorious stage showing of the Crimson Skies logo, it'd be a great time to visit that series with this show sometime :)
@DarkShadowRage
@DarkShadowRage 7 жыл бұрын
that SSH Remix of FF6's boss theme in the background during Yoshi's island and star fox. well done john :D
@NightFlyStudio
@NightFlyStudio 7 жыл бұрын
Oh man, I'd love to have Do Re Mi Fantasy on the Snes Mini...one of my all time favorites!
@LuisDiaz-dt1uh
@LuisDiaz-dt1uh 7 жыл бұрын
Yesss can't wait for the next episode :D
@egoborder3203
@egoborder3203 7 жыл бұрын
I know right? They just slipped that in at the end
@russmawson6744
@russmawson6744 7 жыл бұрын
Soul Reaver next time, brilliant, I had commented about that on a previous video but I definitely wouldn't have been the only one. great choice. also loved the SNES mini vid. was lucky enough to get one preordered
@Spiegelgeist
@Spiegelgeist 7 жыл бұрын
Vapor Trail owned super hard. Also the snes mini should've had The Legend Of The Mystical Ninja, a gorgeous game with a wonderful soundtrack.
@nico5179
@nico5179 7 жыл бұрын
Super Castlevania IV was and its still my favorite SNES game, it was just amazing!
@8bitDNA
@8bitDNA 7 жыл бұрын
goddamn john. if i could inject DF retro into my veins, I would. great work
@avavii
@avavii 7 жыл бұрын
Honorable mention for technical excellence: Axelay!
@b3rno93
@b3rno93 7 жыл бұрын
I love you John!... the Legacy of Kain series is been an all time favorite in my family!
7 жыл бұрын
Great Episode! You're the best!
@goldensperm7182
@goldensperm7182 7 жыл бұрын
where is my boy Richard Leadbetter?
@TasJ0
@TasJ0 7 жыл бұрын
Homeless Emperor Wichard*
@Total_Inertia
@Total_Inertia 7 жыл бұрын
Great stuff Jon
@BenjerminGaye
@BenjerminGaye 7 жыл бұрын
With the quickness
@Bonoman85
@Bonoman85 7 жыл бұрын
DF: we want a video of Doom ports like the video of Duke Nukem ports you did a few months ago. Many Thanks for your amazing work
@tokyobassist
@tokyobassist 7 жыл бұрын
Yo the Gradius III OST love in this vid makes me happy.
@gabrieleriva651
@gabrieleriva651 7 жыл бұрын
4:42 Lagrange Point is an incredible game, and it's been playable on the Everdrive N8 since the last few weeks.
@Avalon1489
@Avalon1489 7 жыл бұрын
That is one mightily collection you have.
@Schadows77
@Schadows77 7 жыл бұрын
OMG !! Can't wait for the next episode ! Soul Reaver (at least the forst 1) is one of the best PS1 titles I had back in the day. Too bad it was only half of what the devs meant it to be (cf. the neogaf article on cut content and original ending)
@wielku
@wielku 7 жыл бұрын
ooohhhh can't wait for Soul Reaver episode :D
@mickwrinkles2318
@mickwrinkles2318 7 жыл бұрын
Soul Reaver on DF Retro? Yesss please!
@darrenbell4898
@darrenbell4898 7 жыл бұрын
Stunt Racer FX was one of my fav FX games
@IAmNeomic
@IAmNeomic 7 жыл бұрын
The reason why the orginal NES sounds "better" is because of the amplifiers in the analog signal. The NES Classic is what the music sounds like without any added coloration to the signal. It's basically the same reason why many people think vinyls sound better; the added analog warmth and coloration of the sound.
@ironchef3500
@ironchef3500 7 жыл бұрын
Another awesome video
@AVErsiv
@AVErsiv 7 жыл бұрын
Cant wait for SoulReaver !! , i absolutely LOVE this game, finished it on couple of times maxing out completion every time .
@Rtong98
@Rtong98 7 жыл бұрын
I'm so hyped for my snes :D
@pimpshiza
@pimpshiza 7 жыл бұрын
One of those late NES titles that had great animation and music was Little Nemo: Adventures in Dreamland. I didn't have this title so I only got to play it at my friend's house. So Jelous to this day! LOL
@ErikGPL
@ErikGPL 7 жыл бұрын
13:43 Reveeerb, nice touch.
@BaddMatt
@BaddMatt 7 жыл бұрын
Konami also used a sound card in it's Japanese release of Castlevania 3. Should go check it out. Sounds awesome!
@pronstorestiffi
@pronstorestiffi 7 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure why my mind has focused in on the word "then" but John really like to use it in a particular way. Any was good content as ever then.
@artyfly100
@artyfly100 7 жыл бұрын
Love DF retro even though i never played anything prior to 2004-5
@elzabbul
@elzabbul 7 жыл бұрын
Soul Reaver ! Great, can't wait!
@ModernVintageGamer
@ModernVintageGamer 7 жыл бұрын
great video but one miss was your mention of Drakon. His mod work is an abomination. There is well documented information on this
@rajvinder89
@rajvinder89 7 жыл бұрын
Hopefully people are actually able to get their hands on these.
@conoraq
@conoraq 7 жыл бұрын
Anyone know the source of the music that starts playing at 22:57 along with the Skyblazer footage through until the end of the video? It's not from Skyblazer as far as I can tell.
@brandonisweird7000
@brandonisweird7000 7 жыл бұрын
Another great video John. Ignore all the negativity people are toxic.
@gargonovich
@gargonovich 7 жыл бұрын
somebody over on nesdev actually made a patch for Super Ghouls and Ghosts that fixes the slowdown. The SNES CPU wasn't as toothless as a lot of people think, but it was hard to get the most out of and misused in a lot of cases, especially early software.
@bigcjm
@bigcjm 7 жыл бұрын
Wow a really informative video.
@evilmarc
@evilmarc 7 жыл бұрын
That troll at the start of the video :')
@SuperMatthew128
@SuperMatthew128 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for using the correct logo for PC. I think that the Steam logo isn't that wrong (since there are versions of it or Mac and Linux), but it is not the right one as well.
@iPadVulk
@iPadVulk 7 жыл бұрын
I love how they included music from Turtles in Time when it's not part of the Classic library...
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