I sure am glad that I don’t have to deal with these gamepass price increases. Mostly because I don’t play video games. I only complain about them on the internet.

Why doesn't anybody realise that PC gamepass has half the amount of games, and also doesnt require Xbox live to play online, so of course PC gamepass will cost less. Edit: For the people that dont understand, you have to pay £/$10 a month to just play online on xbox. There is no charge on PC. This is included in the cost with gamepass console. Why should PC gamers pay for that part of the service that isn't required. Should online play be free on console? Sure, but it currently isnt. Don't like it? Buy a PC.

Microsoft just doesn't have enough pc game pass subs to raise the price, you just wait 😅

This is starting to become sad. The harder the fanboys defend the console, the poorer value they get out of it

Sometimes i ask myself how the fuck Microsoft was able to make Windows Store and Xbox app so insanely bad on their own proprietary system... man is not possible to be a random thing someone there work to make it bad the way it is

It's because Microsoft have more difficults taking money from PC gamers than Xbox, so they need to give a better deal.

Oliver went back 3 generations trying to give Xbox a win. To downplay the massive lead PlayStation have since then. This is why Xbox is failing.

I lost my confidence on Microsoft. I will cancel my subscription in September. This is unacceptable, this is worse than a rise. They basically dismembered the gamepass day one offer and put it behind a higher pay wall.

The only reason the Xbox Ultimate subscription costs more is that it also includes Xbox Live Gold ($10 a month), so technically you still get a discount. However, PC users do not pay for Xbox Live Gold, so they get just the regular Game Pass cost.

Gamepass is way better on xbox than pc

They’re just slowly getting everyone ready for the PC. The next Xbox will be like a steamdeck, essentially just a PC running a custom OS, with the ability to launch into a scaled down windows, like a steam machine was planned.

But PS didn't raise prices two years in a row.

From a PS and PC gamer perspective my issue with gamepass on pc is i just dont think its worth it steam has so many sales hell just bought all the assassin's creed games for $18 they also had a bundles for Mk and batman games I get some ppl dont care to own but it just makes more since to buy tbh

Microsoft favoring PC? There's a lot of games on the console GP that are not available on PC GP

PS2 > Xbox Series X lmao.

Xbox fans paid the asking price and stuck with MS through years of no/lackluster games and "wait for a steady cadence of games to come to GP", and the minute they have a lineup of games that look good, MS hikes prices and goes multiplatform...

Gamepass cheap: "this is wellfare, this is ruining the industry, it's unsustainable" Gamepass more expensive: "this is terrible, where's the value? Xbox is falling apart!"

Microsoft going from You dont need an Xbox to Please Dont buy an Xbox.

They were desperate for money after Microsoft acquisition with Activision and Blizzard 😂

Can you imagine how many people tried to play fallout 3 on pc gamepass after the tv series came out and just found out that the gamepass version is completely bricked

the bots in the comments lol

Playstation has Spiderman but Activision has a bunch of legacy Spiderman games in their catalog, including Deadpool, X-men and other Marvel titles. I would rebuy those games for PC even though I have them for GameCube.

Game Pass is a bum deal. It's your basic Music CD subscription service from the 80's without the ability to keep what they are sending you. Content leaves GP, content can't carry a save between GSS's like GP and PS+ or anything else. You're paying stupid amounts of money that could just as easily go into a sales season. 1yr of GP, I can spend on a steam sale and make out like a bandit on the games I want and still pay less. What's the point of GP at that point other than to lock us into velvet handcuffs that'll one day become a prison of our own making with 120 a month sub prices in the future. That's the MS dream. Hard pass on that.

Pay for a library of games you don’t want or play 😂

Stop lying! Xbox wouldn’t be extorting me, an Xbox owner, only thing I play games on. Xbox appreciates their fans and customers. It’s $8 more but that $8 more better! Xbox #1! They can charge me $35 a month and leave pc price where it’s at because Xbox is where the best value in gaming is!

As the owner of PS5 and XSX, I don't have a PC. I have top tier in both psn and gp. GP has more content, more consistency, and more games, 1st party exclusives. My PS5 last year. Sony raised the prices 35% less content, and I hardly touch my PS5. Cause their offerings are bare bones. Amazing when MS raise their prices, everybody talks about it. PS5 35% increase silent AF.💯✌🏾

Xbox is down to their singlets and jocks, begging for more money.

as soon as they announced this i decided to cancel my sub.

I get my XBox Ultimate free as part of my EE mobile phone contract & so am curious if they continue providing it to me even though it’s gone up in price, 🤔

They have screwed up with this price increase. They had already increased the prices 12 months ago, and now they introduce massive prices increases when the consumer is already tapped out. They have already ready lost this generation on console and there is huge competition on PC. Game pass went from good value to not worth it. I'll be sticking to Steam in future and what little incensive to switch from PS5 to Xbox has completely disappeared. Not a smart mood.

As long I can pay once for a year 12 months then upgrade for $19.99 get 13 months I’m fine with that you need to just not pay every month $19.99 that’s a waste of money will cost over $100 if you pay monthly which I don’t do

You can use one xbox gamepass subscription on two consoles simultaneously. One console as Home, one as “slave”. Very good value for me and my 3 kids.

Alex hitting on a point there with the convoluted mess that is the combo of xbox app and MS store. I've been somewhat using it, but the experience is miserable. They have somewhat overlapping functionality but not completely. Still I don't intuitively know where to buy games from, where to install them from on a new device. The store having no button to show available DLC for games. Where do you update the games? Personally I think they should unify these or at least move the buying and downloading part completely to the store app and have the xbox app just for your xbl-functionality.

Do PC gamers even use gamepass? Keys are so cheap and the steam sales are also a thing that I think even at 10€/m it diddnt make a lot of sense.

I used to be a PC gamer & i understand the pain of those PC game problems 😢

Yeah, I’ve had enough of modern gaming. I’ve had a few successful channels broadcasting from consoles… but even I’ve had enough of the series X gone back to the series S as a casual gamer.. cancelled my online subscription and I will probably get a PC next year

Paid £102 Ultimate for 26 months , xbox is the best.

There's too many other options, for MS to charge $20 for Game Pass on PC. I have (2) gaming PCs and a Series-X. There's no way I'm paying an extra $7, to also have the service on the inferior console.

I cancelled my console ultimate subcription and also stopped the rush to buy 'bugged' day one releases that offered cosmetics in the main. Now use that increased purchasing power to buy disc copies of lower price 'fixed' games from a variety of sources and enjoying the experience so much more.

I've never had a problem installing and playing games on the Xbox app for PC on multiple desktops, laptops and handhelds Steam boy

I've been a long time Xbox gamer to be honest I'm not quite satisfied with Xbox series x. Waiting to see what PS5 pro has to offer

The Xbox for Windows app is so terrible that I would rather pay full price to Steam/GOG/Epic than install a free version off the Xbox for Windows app. No other launcher has this many problems with simply launching the game (the game doesn't crash, it just doesn't start at all). The last straw for me was when I cloned my SSD into a bigger drive, and it broke every single one of my Xbox-for-Windows installations - the app just couldn't detect the files anymore. And I couldn't even delete the stupid files (hundreds of GBs!!!) without booting into safe mode and jumping through numerous hoops.

ask yourself why these companies sell monthly sub systems

The Xbox app for PC crashes my PC sometimes, which is insane because it’s by Microsoft (or maybe that’s the EA integration tbh), but 90% of the time it works perfectly. 😁

Cut the least played games from Gamepass and lower the price.

Is $17 to $20 a significant price increase? Have we all forgotten that gamers on console still pay for online on all consoles.

Xbox users really getting hosed. Steam OP

The message is crystal clear to me. I’m Xbox user, supporter and fan since the original Xbox came out. Yea I’m old. To me the message is PC gamers are not so stupid as we console players. From the beginning it was ridiculous charging us console players for online gaming. I always defended a small fee for Xbox live services and party chat. Today in times with discord there is no advantage an no other reason than to screw over console players. I still have prepaid my Xbox Gamepass until next year. After that I’m done. And not only me. I will cancel for my two children as well. Xbox made it clear they don’t want me anymore. (Inclusivity, I mean I’m a white middle aged male so definitely not their target group anymore) On PC I get everything I get in Xbox but better for less price. That is not how it used to be. Usually the Xbox offered great gaming for a lower price. Clear message, Xbox hates Console players and want them gone. Obviously they don’t care about the money. I won’t get Gamepass on PC neither. Done with that crappy Corpo BS! Hope there are other OS than Windows to run PC gaming smoothly today. Next year I’m out. Goodbye Xbox and welcome PC gaming, mods and Freedom.

The Xbots are getting a reality check.😂

I’m favouring Nintendo and Sony 😂

India got 50% increase in gamepass price. Thanks to the vpn abuse.

Its interesting the issues Alex has had with Gamepass PC. I havent had any issues, games install and run fine. So does not seem to be a universal issue. I use Playnite to combine all my games into one launcher. Makes for a really seamless system for me to play Steam, GOG, Epic, Xbox, and emulated games all from one place. I even stream my PC through moonlight/sunshine with Playnite in fullscreen mode to my TV for that console experience. I basically cant tell if a game was launched from Xbox app, steam, ect. because Playnite has a splashscreen addon that will keep the launcher popups hidden behind a spashscreen until the game is fully launched.

You guy's are as bad as others with this cosonle waring as others

I think I'll stick with the top tier for now mostly to play the new COD which I haven't bothered with since the xbox 360 days and generally have it for occasional game streaming on my mobile, occasional series x use but mostly on the pc and sharing my content with my son on his series x but he generally just plays Fortnite, Battlefront 2 and Titanfall 2! The tier down might be a better option to save a few ££s.

The problem with gamepass I try the games but I don't really play them that much so you're paying to try games

I do game on PC not as often tho I have a decent rig 5700x paired with 6950XT hooked up on a Samsung Odyssey G8 34" OLED. I love the experience but it can never feel like the console experience. I play on Series X mainly and I like to get achievements. But I assure youy if PC gets an integrated OS for gaming I am not going back to console gaming I will jus t connect my PC to TV as well. but as of now , Console gaming is just straight forward and superb despite its technical limitations. Also I notice games stutter alot on PC compared to consoles.

Acitivision Replay please! So many C64 classics missing!

This week I joined the PC master race with a PC with an Intel Core 14th gen i9 14900, a 4090, 64gb ddr5 ram. I feel extremely superior and have vacated the console wars. Thank you.

The PC version of the Xbox app really sucks, if you do manage to get a game to start but let's say you don't play it for a day or 2 when you go to start it, it will just close out before starting making you have to delete and redownload the whole game again. And this is on my 4090 PC with a 5800x3d CPU I built myself.

So weird it’s like people don’t even realise what you get for pc gamepass vs ultimate are 2 complete different products…. Why not show a list of all the games available and perks for each tier that would be the correct way to show people that pc gamepass is far inferior to ultimate and even standard.

I just want a steaming-only tier, even if it's without Day 1 releases. They'll come eventually and most of us have lives outside of gaming.

having an oled gaming monitor i find gamepass games almost worthless since i cant inject the ever so neccesary reshade into the games to fix windows broken hdr

I'm not mad, i was paying about 2$ monthly ,now i pay 4$ for pc gamepass still reasonable price though. Microsoft store pricing is way better than steam and epic games for my region. I hope steam lower their pricing for 3rd world countries because it's easier for us to pirate games than buying them

I like how they keep mentioning PS Plus price increase which happen last year when Gamepass had price hike. PS Plus Extra ($135)(500 PS4 & PS5 games) and Premium ($160)(800+ games) yearly still cheaper than Gamepass Standard ($180 yearly)(300 games) and Gamepass Ultimate ($240 yearly) (500+)

I have GP ultimate but i still bought a lot of games that are included in the PC GP on steam sales because of the deck and steam is a much better experience on PC

Price yes. Catalogue no. Regardless of that fact I still fear the day they bump the price on PC as I do believe its a certainty. Anything beyond that tho and I'm 100% out.

Windows is bigger than Xbox and PS combined. But I get my games from Steam. I want nothing console or game pass from any company.

Of course the pricing is better on PC. That's because they have competition there.

Pc gamepass has less content. Why is this shocking

A year ago XBox management said that Gamepass prices won't there increase due to the Activision merger and echoed it again just a few months ago saying there are no plans to increase Gamepass prices. I believe the most recent instance being at the "business update". The first was on obvious lie, the value proposition changes entirely when they bought ABK. The second is an egregious lie. They've been scoring multiple own goals of late, saying you won't hike prices qhen you know you're doing so soon is bad, unless they want to tell me they only decided in the last 3 months that there is a need to increase prices they didn't foresee. In which case I have to yet again question the competency of management

Microsoft seems to be evolving more into a service and less a platform during the og Xbox one launch there was so much talk about the power of the cloud and now they are running with it trying to co exist everywhere while slowly getting a monopoly on major devs

I think they should just go full PC that's what I want a PC experience quality and performance

Microsoft actually looses money everytime a xbox is sold. If they can profit from game pass and the xbox store, pc is way more profitable.

This reminds me, I still have to cancel my subscription.

Not all console games are available on PC, so there are less games for PC on Gamepass, Plus you would have to buy Ultimate in order to get Cloud gaming, so the price is exactly right.

You know there's this thing in business called pricing yourself out of the market. Let's see how this turns out, I feel a lot of lost subs are incoming.

the old prices favored pc too. Click bait. As much as they complain about console warriors, DF are the main arms dealers in the console wars.

Microsoft says we're going to give you day one games on game pass but then going to raise the price because of Activision putting day one games and game pass. That's what you said you was going to do. You didn't think you going to have big games been 7 months with no first party releases except hellblade but then raise the price

People need to learn how to use the game pass conversion tricks to get better value for money. I'm paying less than £4 a month for game pass ultimate.

My biggest problem is making console users pay for PC GamePass that 99% will never use as a console player. If PC GamePass can be $11.99 there should be a console only version for the same price.

I think it's fair as many titles are on console first anyway.

Remember that gamepass is only 2 bucks on third party sites Don't pay full prize

on Xbox console you're also paying extra for "online multiplayer access" where you are not on PC with online multiplayer being free

Of course they do. PC gamers don't put up with anti consumer practices. Why do you think there is no paid online multiplayer on PC? When there is on console because console gamers bend over backwards for these companies and have "console wars" and are willing to shill for them and pay money for services that should be free. MS did it back since the Xbox and Sony followed with the PS4. Nintendo did it with switch. Why do you think the whole Helldivers 2 thing blew up? Because PC gamers don't want PSN. It's anti consumer. PC gamers pay for Gamepass because its a Netflix type of thing but a lot of PC gamers don't use it because they wanna own and mod their games.

The meta quest has been selling more units than Xbox in the last 2 years. And is growing year on year unlike Xbox. I have an Xbox one s but it isn’t looking good. They have 1 more console gen to turn it around.

Anywayyy, it's still THE BEST DEAL in gaming 🤷‍♂️

How do you guys run into problems with Xbox app? I'm using it since CK3 launched as Game Pass for PC day one. I'm modding those games (NTFS tinkering with folder ownership required ok). Sometimes I break them, uninstall, install again and go. It's far cry from Steam and even GOG Galaxy, but I can't replicate none of the issues described. My only issue with it is that even for 1st party title, Steam gets beta patch and Xbox app must wait for that patch to go out of beta. But that feature is a killer feature of Steam that leaves others in the dust.

Will madden 25 be available DAY 1

Hurrah for PC gamers like me!

Is this realy that big of a issue when your spending an extra fiver give or take it’s not a lot money plus what you get for your money is worth it, think people need to stop expecting everything for nothing, you get what pay for you want cheap pay cheap you want quality then it comes at a cost

Maybe it's cheaper because playing on PC is basically a punishment at this point. Unoptimized buggy ports, too many dumb programs and windows. The console experience is so much more polished and direct. Gamers care about playing games, not fiddling with settings and fighting with windows. Not to mention sitting at a desk on a small monitor. Even if it's a living room PC the experience is pretty sub optimal. I vastly prefer a comfy couch and a 65" TV with a streamlined experience.

PC Game pass games don't run anywhere near as good as on Steam...cannot even play fallout 4 on pc game pass. but on Steam it is fine.

I do also think that GP on XBox should be cheaper compared to other platforms. It would boost sales a bit in the long run - Series S is the proof that for many people a cheap opportunity is needed for gamers where gaming is like the fourth hobby. Still: *XBox is still quite cheap!* Compared to a PlayStation, to a new PC with more power than Series X or in a case as small as the Series X is a deal. I wonder if Game Pass becomes a dynamic package deal some day in the future ?! It could be like one price range from 5 - 50 bucks. What counts are the hours per month - you play more you pay more - no matter if console (maybe even PlayStation at some point), PC, Xcloud, mobile.

ps plus raised after gamepass did last year

I just wanted an annual sub for my birthday. I found one and put it in my wish list in June. no problem. discounts everywhere. Fast forward 1 week and Microsoft announces new prices, you can get the old price and stack 36 months, they said. Fast forward to my birthday week. The wife " I cant find what you want," she said, "it doesn't exist," she said, and I say; "of course it exists. We have til September." This is all just Microsoft tricking and lieing to their consumers, we didn't ask for a price increase and now we are stuck paying for one. They lost me here. I will unsub, and I'm going back to pirating. If they do not lower prices they will loose. The best way to reap profits is to get every single gamer that wants new titles, charge them 1.99 a month. Microsoft. Mark my words. YOU WILL MAKE WAY MORE MONEY IF YOU LET EVERYONE GAME AND SET AN ULTIMATE LOW PRICE. YOU WILL GET/WIN EVERYONE'S MONEY AND REAP THE PROFITS.

If you increase the price of PC Game pass, people will just go ahead and torrent the games. Xbox users won't do that.

I'm curious what do your member tiers offer and how much are they?

Everyone called it because we all knew it was going to happen. To be honest, the few extra dollars/pounds per month is not particularly egregious when you consider what you get. However, I don't like how they locked online multiplayer into Game Pass Ultimate, as there will be some gamers who only want to play online and will be getting short-changed on this deal. They should have kept that separate in my opinion.

I'm curious if the "low" pc price for game pass is to incentivize those 1 game only players (COD/FIFA) to subscribe instead of buy. This way they get those people to join up, AND then they can charge them all these little fees as well like opening packs, or cod season passes. etc. If you unsubscribe you lose your games, so seems like a good way to get people in w/ that monthly price but over the course of the year it just costs more if you are one of those players.

They spend billions of dollars making a console and give you every reason not to buy it. I mean we saw this a bit with the reveal of the Xbox 1, but this is going all-in on the strategy. Someone over there surely believes there's infinite subscriber growth. I don't see how this is supposed to work long-term.