What have you been trying out so far? Anything you would like me to look into?

With going back to hell, I’d expect it to be HORDES of demons. This looks like a regular event in the helltides

The fact the odd team is facing heat again cracks me up. Shouldn’t enjoy it being that funny but I do

Maybe we can just have Season 4 again.. with the re-summoning of bosses QOL added.

If they leave the compass and it's upgrade system as is, most of the players won't play this mode, you have to farm so much, for almost no reward.

I quit ptr it’s too much effort to test the important things to me, lots and lots of grinding on a test server is not my thing.

I think they should have left the Iron Wolves reputation in the game TBH. It was nice content while you level and set your character up nicely when you finished it.

What is their obsession with keys for everything? If I want to do an activity and play the game don’t make me do something else I don’t want to do.

Diablo 4 is starting to feel like an amusement park in the worst possible way, everything requires a ticket to ride just let me do something without an entry fee please

Woke up in the morning tried the Infernal Horde, then realized just a copy of the D3 or PoE wave of monster thingy then went back to sleep. Then realized again this is the ODD season 5. See you guys on season 6 🤣

Maiden does not feel rewarding anymore :( without the profane mindcage buff.

it's pretty obvious that the even season team and the odd season team don't talk to each other.

As expected. Season “5” is an odd number. Bad devs team.

At this point, it might honestly be time to fire the odd team and let the even team work on the game full time for seasons even if that means seasons are longer. Like clockwork the odd season update is a disaster and it’s getting old this yin and yang of good and bad season updates.

We always joke about Blizzard not playtesting...but for real: do they play this at all before releasing?

Sad to see bosses. Was hoping for ever increasing waves so aoe builds have a way to shine. We already have game modes for st builds

You think the Even-Team looks at the Odd-Season changes and go "FFS, WE JUST FIXED THAT!" 🤔?

Met the Butcher in a NMD and he had at least 10x the hit points and was by far the hardest fight in any dungeon

I thought the thumbnail said “$5 PTR” and after everything I’ve heard so far I believed it lol

AGREED!! hope they make the new content more solo friendly!

The D4 team needs to have an emergency meeting with the D3 team to learn how to do a PTR the right way. I'm not going to test anything if I have to grind for it in a PTR.

Reading the comments its look like its the uneven season curse all over again. 1 doodoo 2 good 3 doodoo 4 great 5 facerip

Have you done a build video for the build in the video?

So blizzard has said they have 2 teams working on seasons so they sort of leapfrog each other. I am sure that is why these issues pop up because the teams are not working together but independent of one another.

Blue hp bar make sense, if you are in a pack of mobs it might be hard to tell what hp bar is yours if it was red. I have wanted a hp bar above player forever.

Can anyone tell me if they have seen the +hydra heads manual yet? I have not seen it.

meanwhile sorc has fun in pit 60

@Wudijo I tested the totem dagger and you are not able to apply crowd control effects to the totems. I also did not observed any double dipping or self replicating echoes. It was a little underwhelming.

I really hope they don't make the pit harder without buffing the rewards. If you have to do several hard runs to upgrade one level on one piece of gear, it's going to get really tiring.

I'd been having the most fun that I've had playing Bash/Bleed and Heartseeker and now on PTR not so much. I can't even find/farm the uniques or mats to try something else because for reason unknown they kept the drop rates so low and anything over Pit 71 boss is basically a no go.

They're balancing the difficulty based on what barbs have been doing with their characters and those high pits. I think that before looking to make further changes to the pit they should really make all other classes as powerful as barb, which in my opinion is a well designed class because it actually does hardest content. All classes should be at that power level, then we can talk about the pit.

I'm partially color blind, and the blue party health bar is so nice. I don't see the red ones well, and the game itself is already very red-ish. Blue is good :D

Blizzard cant make small season fun and without bugs, but peaople still pre order expansion. That's crazy

I'm not expecting much. The dev team that made this is the team from New York that does all the odd numbered seasons, and every season they make sucks

iYes, i have request. i am curious about golem build and how it perform

What the hell are the people who make the odd numbered seasons thinking ? The malignant hearts were not well received, the mecha-spider pet was a total failure and now this! At least they did a PTR this time. Let’s hope they listen to you guys!

could you let me know how can you have 7 imbue skills?

They could take inspiration from the Tower of Chaos in Chaosbane and it would map on almost directly to this new hell tier mechanic thing. The Tower was actually pretty fun in Chaosbane. Would also love to see something like Void Crusades from Inquisitor: Martyr.

Thanks

The FULL focus on this PTR should be on class and build balance. Blizzard has the numbers but is doing nothing to fix things. In terms of the new endgame system... Again... focus on CLASS and BUILD BALANCE to make the content actually meaningful. And difficuly or rewards should not be punishing solo vs group play either. Each class should AT LEAST have 1 build that is within 5% of every other class in terms of efficiency. And every build that BLIZZARD has made VIABLE in the game should be withing 5-10% of other builds for the same class. This is a MUST and game is still miles of getting close to this in the past seasons.

Season Team Odd strikes again

I'm glad we can see other party members lines and pins on the minimap and see the purple beam when a Uber unique drop but still no tempting fix.. Priorities right?

Wait a moment! They added health bar & mana bar?! The visibility of maximum mana indicator (the white dot) looks good too! Big Yes to me. If they add options for adjusting size & color of these bars, it will be perfect!

The best is currently in the Grimm down. After 3 rounds you have a boss and after the boss you can continue deeper or left with current loot rewards

If this arena stuff is all they will have for season 5, even if they make it easier to get hearts/scrolls, it will be a failed season. I have 3 hearts in my inventory and I don't care to use them, did one run and it was boring as hell. Maybe, a big maybe, if they make rewards much bigger compared to pit/hell tides/bosses, I will squeeze some runs, otherwise pass like I'm doing for gauntlet.

I thought a PTR should have some sort of NPC that you can buy items/gear from so that you can test different builds. Now we're farming tempering manuals and scrolls that hardly drop. Also no idea why they would reduce the drop rate of the hearts in helltide. In the server that I play on, it's either bots not contributing to the hearts or people just looking at each other waiting for someone to insert the heart.

I've seen the loading screen show a seneschal bot from S3 a few times. Let's compare S3 with S5 ptr: 1. Farm materials to run? Check 2. Gather materials to select a reward at the end? Check 3. Very low rewards at the start? Check 4. Confusing/slow progress system for the mechanics? Check Coincidence? Maybe

D4 keeps reminding me of that video of a former Blizz game developer talking about how Blizz has changed and all passionate and talented people are long gone

Elemental damage feels stronger. Specifically lightning damage.

Thanks for the feedback

I was hoping you would find the new sword with the totem for testing. I am testing Andy’s flurry w some new aspects. I found the sword in helltides and it is super fun! I don’t have lot of crit damage or vuln since my build doesn’t require those stats but my damage is ticking around 250-300 million with the new unique. Hopefully it doesn’t get nerfed too badly

Blizzard probably should have done a minor placeholder S5 before expansion. Glad you guys are there sorting it out again. S4 was much much better thanks to the PTR gamers.

Why limit it to 5 waves? Why not do endless? 5 waves, option to cash out. Another 5 waves, another option to cash out. You get nothing if you fail. Risk reward. Go to wave 20 if you are strong enough for better rewards if you are stronk enough.

When does BETA end??

I do like the story behind the theme for the season. I expected a valient last stand against the infernal horde, but instead found the hells to be more empty than Sanctuary. You get more density and better rewards for doing Helltides compared to the new Infernal Horde event. Especially considering you have to farm and upgrade the event it should be at least twice or more as rewarding compared to killing infernal maiden in helltides. I want to battle the horde of enemies Inarius and the church of light army fought or similar threat. I would suggest you change the event to never ending stream of enemies that either upgrade by kill count or increasing at set times (starting with small demons upgrading to larger ones, champions, elites, bosses etc). Make it tiers of difficulty how long you have to survive the infernal horde l. Tier 3 example survive 5 minutes with the difficulty of mobs ramping as time progresses in intervals (every 30 seconds or so ) tier 8 being surviving for 10 minutes before fighting council. Base rewards on time survived, hardcore characters would have to choose their tiers wisely. You could still do banes and boons, attack a mass, fill a soul well, or destroy an alter etc to modify waves or give bane and boon but I believe would be better while in combat. You could give mini objectives during the wave if you fail it then you get a bane otherwise you get a Boon if you succeed. I also like the idea of being cast out of hell after defeating the council by a prime evil something or by the council itself and being left with a reward. Not sure how the portal to escape makes sense otherwise. I believe a true survival mode would be really engaging, with truly endless waves to a time. Keeping the highest survival time around 10 minutes then plan for a 2-5 minute council fight depending on your character’s gear/progression.

I would not worry about accessibility to new mode, PTR is there to cache and fix those type of issues. New mode needs to bé rewarding and easily accessible to break monotonous gameplay loop from Season 4--Helltide forever mixed with som Pit for upgrade materials when Helltide blessed KZfaq with gear. And change to Pit boss difficulty need to bé balanced against increased rewards. Pit as is now is fine for farming materials but it is unrewarding when it comes to gear. I do not mind more mechanics from torment bosses to be added to PIT as long as frequency of those attacks is toned down.

Now that apparently the Uber bosses were buffed for sure

I'll leave the sweats test the PTR. I'll just complain about what's broken in season 5 lol

I quit Season 4, which was a vast improvement admittedly, when I realized that there was no real way to farm greater affix gear. When the best way to get tons of loot while GA fishing is just sitting in helltides killing the maiden over and over, it's time to wait for the next season.

I was really hoping they would have more boosts because my character had no stygian stones, and I only had 2 resplendent sparks so I could barely test builds or farm ubers and I'm not about to run hrs worth of pits to get a few stones.

But i guess the sound effect is awesome. God damn that fking sound. How about differentiating double and triple gas mini icons? The bugs? No? Just a fancy word for ubers and a freaking sound effect fr fr

Now just imagine there was no PTR for this patch

If they leave the pit boss this strong glhf farm mastercraft mats only to test some builds in the ptr

Coldclip Aspect DOES NOT proc Eldritch Bounty despite making basic skill "as always cold imbued" (it should have be counted "when you attack with an imbued skill").

Wudijo what are your views on the malignant hearts? I wish they would reintroduce then into the game as a permanent thing or atleast give us “legendary” gems to put into the jewelry. I do believe resistances are important and should be kept so giving us the option to include damage output material into the gems slots would make you have to decide between those and actually having resistances. It’d be a nice trade off. That being said the PTR looks like it’s filling its role and showing us the dumpster fire that we will be walking into and hopefully they can get it resolved

I would rly like if there was an option to enlarge the health bar of enemy, so the sneaky lil ones arent so sneaky anymore😏

After all this time and all the failures you'd think they would finally get a grip on how to balance stuff so it's not overly grindy or boring right out the gate. Minor tweaks and all that sure, that's what tests and the PTR is for i guess, but it really feels like every mechanic they put into the game first needs 10 iterations before it's even close to acceptable levels. I know they said it's mandatory for their devs to play the game for a set amount of hours a week, it just doesn't feel like they actually do otherwise a lot of these issues wouldn't even make it to a PTR. Their number crunchers apparantly aren't crunching hard enough.

Moze mini-grenade skill from BL3 with the totem. Crit with totem then those explosion crits can Crit😮

Instead of buffing content I wish blizz would rework [x]% damage multipliers and make a system for where/how they are available. Now it feels like buildcrafting is all about scouring your codex, boards, trees and inventory for multipliers and jamming as many as you can into your build. There is no room for fun interactions or synergies as if you miss a few multipliers it will severely impact your effectiveness, as most content is balanced based on absolutely bonkers abuse of ridiculous ways of multiplying your damage exponentially. I really think this could alleviate class balance issues as well like barb getting access to upto 4x more multipliers than other classes because of having more weapons. Imo no aspects or tempers should give stats that multiply your damage. Like bash cleave, Multicasts, dot durations etc. Instead multicasts, dot durations and the likes could come from over-skilling your abilities. E.g having 8 points in chain lightning would make it have 60% chance to cast twice. Or having 8 points in flay would give it 60% increased duration. Only more static things like paragon, skill tree, class mechanics and uber uniques should have flat multipliers. Regular uniques can have very conditional multipliers.

Maybe they made Pit harder to compensate for a season power system..

R.I.P

Odd team strikes again. Thank God there's a PTR so they can fix it now instead of a week of emergency patches after emergency patches like the season of the boring metal dog.

Seems like with season 5 being shortened anyway with the expansion releasing, might as well just wait for season 6.

1.The new endgame Hoard mode is not fun to grind 2.tons of bugs like enemies taking no damage and getting stuck in walls 3.Pit bosses either get one shot or take next to no damage 4.not to mention the classes feel less powerful than before but that’s maybe due to the bugs

The torment stacks are literally one of the only things I hate. You should be able to invest enough time into a character to eventually tank a mechanic. The torment stacks make this impossible because no amount of gear will save you and you die. If that's in the PIT then probably not going to play the season.

I would love you to address the math behind how Victimize is doing so little damage. My tooltip says 1700x % and its doing less dmg than the skill that proced it.

Let me get it straight once and for all. as long as these bad decisions makers don’t being replaced the game will continue to be bad. Season 42-/ nice for certain classes and builds and that’s it. The game in it’s core is just bad. they do something good and manage to ruin it. It feels like they really don’t want to make the game good. and try to “save” qol changes for patches and season to attract people.

I just wanna know when they fix sorcerers......................

Dying to a boss in Pits & NM dungeons gives them like 99 torment stacks, it's like they have 99% less hp on the second attempt.

Love the feature of health above your character and hopefully resources as I have a real issue with looking down at my pools to check probably and ADHD issue with to much overstimulation going on but if I can just focus on my character on the screen that'll be so much better for me.

To be fair, season five is a two month filler before VoH, and there are a load of new items and affixes to play with as well as the new mode, and possibly a season theme too. I find it weird that people get so wound up by a PTR 😂

Keys are only good for Uber bosses that drop a hellfire torch

Ah, the good ol odd season curse. Might have to skip season 5...it's a short season anyway.

No one will run tier 8 infernal hordes in it's current state. Huge time sink for almost no rewards. You can just kill blood maiden 10-15 times and get items with a ga that much quicker (and open boxes). The tier 8 box at the end needs to be a guaranteed 2-3 ga item and 1ga+ unique to even make it worthwile. Otherwise i don't see anyone doing it for ga farming.

who the fck was in charge of the design and the backbone of this event? He MUST be livin on Marsh, he managed to fail on literally every single step of this activity design and concept. Im gonna leave this here > Invest 30-40 BILLIONS of gold to make a triple ga Min maxed build and farm for infinite hours to get crappy materials then fight for 1 hour IN A GROUP to get two items with a single GA. WHO ON A MANAGING POSITION OF THE DEV TEAM APPROVED IT ACTUALLY?? Blows my mind. It feels more like a poorely designed last minute "Activity" to keep us busy with no gains whatsoever for 2 months OR that this activity was designed just enough to cover up the GIGA NERFS that happened and keep player numbers from goin down once again, either way Clueless ppl for sure. Reply

Its not hard to understand why they added stacks to pit boss. some classes are so tanky the boss becomes a tank and spank. Its to nerf barbs basically

Infernal hordes - so just one more thing to farm for nothing. at least farming pit gives you upgrades for masterworking, so you have to farm that. but this thing - who is this made for?

Glad we have a ptr and a good community to test it. Keep it up.

They nerfed the pit mid season 4 and they may have loaded the pre-nerfed version of the pit on the PTR.

tormented stacks are good for the game. people will just have to get good and start dodging a bit instead of facetanking everything.

Blizz devs are showing it might be time to call it quits with activision blizzard entirely 🤔

Two teams working on different versions of the game is how I presume these silly bugs make it under the radar.

Its the same issue that Simulacrum has in PoE right. Wave 1-30 where only the last 10 is any challenge.

seeing the new rogue unique dagger effect do over 4 billion damage just means the sorc will get extra nerfs 😔

Buff Sorcs and Druids more! They need a full class rework for both

Oof, are they trying to go back to the D4 bad meme after S4 was such an improvement

I know better than to trust an odd numbered diablo 4 season

With the amount of heat that Blizzard have incurred in the past for appearing to not test their content prior to releasing, this does nothing to help their rep. Looks like a bug fest. Surely a company of their size can afford a few game testers (true gamers) to provide feedback. Reinforces the theory that they work to a release date and whatever the state of things, it’s shipped regardless. With the amount of care that Gear Grinding Games are putting into POE2, this kind of workmanship from Blizzard will be showcased in an even worse light upon POE2’s release. Free game that works as intended vs a continual coding mess.

eeeek. that focus/benefit to group play is total excitement killer. Potentially skipping S5 I 'spose.

How can they permanetly fuck up all their changes...even tho its ptr...nothing works like it should be and half of it isnt when it comes live...