Very interesting point! This scene is incredibly well written, there is so much to understand from it!

She cared about those insults because it would kill her children. Alicent is to blame about making her children say those things, children most say what they hear from their parents. And let's not forget Aemond treaten to smash the brothers with the stone, he stoped once, but then tried again Lucerys used the dagger to save his brother. A 11 or 12 yo child is alot stronger than 8 and 6 years old. Yeah Aemond lost his eye, but in this situation one of the brothers or even the girls could have died by being hit with a stone. Alincent keep saying about his lost eye, but she forget the insult is a death sentence for Rhaenyra children and while the dagger is overwelming in children fight so is a huge stone. Even a 10 year old could kill a younger child with it just if you hit a good spot in the head the person will drop dead. It is not even needed if the older child have strenght to hit a right place, around 10 years ago a fight between girls in front of a school happened they were around 12 ou 13 yo, after a punch in the head a girl just went rigid for a moment and droped convulsing a bit and then died. Aemond have much more advantage in a fight against kids much more younger than him. I hava 2 cousins with 1 year age gap almost perect it 1y and one weel exactly. The older one was born small, he almost always was smaller the kids his age, but even still he was bigger than his younger cousin and it is just 1 year. A 4 years age gap is insane to a kid my cousin is 11 now he is more than a head taller than his 7 years oldeself while he still have a child like body he is around the same height as my aunt who have around 1,55 cm if not a bit taller. Aemong with a stone in hand and threaten to smash one of them with it is enough for any of those 4 kids feel life threatened. Of course is wrong use a dagger in a child fight but so is wrong use a stone in it. Both sides were wrong but it is a situation Aemond created by choosing the wrong time to get Vhagar, rile up Laena children who were sad by their mother death, insulting the 2 brothers. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ZqqqaaeimtW9oJs.html&ab_channel=R%26CMedia You can see he start the fight by insulting and he scaleted it by using weapon (stone) than after threatening Luce(it was he insult Jace again who now get the dagger to have a weapon too to fight. Aemond had the chance to stop riling up the fight 2 times, first before start(not insulting the girl), after he grab Luce (before get the stone to threat, because they all stoped fight and were not trying to continue) and maybe after he hit Jace with the stone too, Luce went for the dagger because he saw Aemond threaten his brother life and you can see all children there thought he would smash Jace there. In the end Aemond started it all and in a children fight with weapons he is the one who got the worse injury, but could have been anyone there. Jace could have died by having his head hit with a stone it is just lucky he wasn't.

Another thing is Aemond is the older one there, he should have been the first to not start a fight. He is salty because of the pig thing but that was his older brother ideia. He blamed children younger than him for a thing his older brother started and encouraged. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g9mimbZ4mc6ukok.html&ab_channel=JynxedKoma Aegon was the one insulting him there, Jace was copying him ans Luce was doing what he was told to do and copying the older ones. Aemong should have blame and hated his older brother for this, not his younger cousins but is easier to target younger children than a older one.

But like Aemond stole their dragon, what was he expecting 😭

@RubyAPBT you made every point I was going to hit on. THANK YOU! People want Alicent to be a victim so bad yet she is literally and actively seeking to take Rhaenyra's throne and exile her for having political freedom as a princess while letting her kids do as they please because she has always plotted to have Rhaenyra removed from the picture.

I'm afraid of you

Thank u I 100% agree

@@mercuriology45 Rhaenyra’s claim would not survive the revelation that she knowingly conspired to place bastards born of adultery on both the iron throne and in her In-laws seat. It’s POSSIBLE that if she were to admit to the adultery, she and the kids would simply be imprisoned, but doubtful. Because she selfishly did not have her children within wedlock, or, at LEAST, with a guy who looked like Laenor, she endangered the succession, her own life, her kids, and the entire country. This isn’t the modern day. If the Greens had succeeded persuading Viserys to acknowledge the obvious truth, then Rhaenyra would have been done, her kids either dead or permanently enslaved in the Watch, faith, or citadel. That’s life. You don’t get to break the rules without consequences, even if you are Daddy’s Special Girl.

Targaryen can do whatever they want. They have dragons.

@@misskate3815 if viserys who is the king wanted for Rhaenyra’s line to continue the throne, regardless of having bastards it wouldve. Rhaenyra is also protected by the “widows law” of westeros (assuming you even know what that means) Her having bastards would not take away her claim to the throne. But however her children would be in danger and many ppl throughout the realm wouldn’t exactly be happy. It’s not like ppl would dare to question the targaryens after all they have dragons. it would all depend on Viserys, but Rhaenyra’s claim is still valid not bastards or not, still it would JEOPARDIZE her claim.

@@mercuriology45that’s not how it works. 🤦🏻‍♀️. The “Widow’s Law” exists to provide support to a widow in the case of her husband’s death. It does not allow her to push her illegitimate children ahead of the rightful heirs. And as unfair as it might be, bastards in Westeros, even royal bastards, do not have a claim before legitimate heirs. Viserys pressing his daughter’s claim is one thing. Him doing so after she’s proven she’ll be a crappy queen is his prerogative, esp given the alternative is Aegon. Him pressing the claims of her bastards is a danger to the stability of the governing body and sets a precedent endangering the lives and lineages of every house in Westeros. When your government’s legitimacy derives from specific bloodlines, birthright MATTERS. This would allow any lord who just… felt like it to push his bastards ahead of his heirs, which would damage multiple facets of their society. The entire ASOIAF series is a specific critique of this ideology and ALSO of how entitled people indoctrinated into a toxic theory of exceptionalism don’t govern well, especially if they have living WMDs. That’s why Danaerys dies at the end of Game of Thrones, and also why the Lords in the North press to set Jon aside and crown Sansa. It’s a symbol of the death of targaryen tyranny and of the understanding that Westeros will begin to move away from a feudal society to a more equitable one where leaders will be chosen based on their qualifications, not because mommy and daddy said they could have the fancy chair.

@@yusufraage8554 yes, that is what the books are criticizing. That is why Danaerys will die at the end of the books.

Rhaenyra and Aegon marriage was the only possible way to avoid the Dance.

Very good point! I didn't make that connection until now! Thanks for your comment!

@@guihuppe I didn't realize it until I went back and rewatched episode 3 last night haha. Np, love ur content :)

well look I really wanted to give it a pass thinking that okay maybe Alicent was thinking about the time when Viserys told her about the dream of Aegon sitting on the throne BUT itt still is tooo obvious for me that writers just try to make Alicents actions more sympathetic....and I have a problem with that cause I dont understand why is that necessary...in the end of the day its silly...c'mon Viserys for over 20 years never changed his heir ...also Alicent knew that Viserys is totally out of it...and could just mumble something...they thry to portray Alicent as a smart women but this is just stupid

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@@HK-gm8pe💯💯 I be saying these similar things to other people who blindly accept and see the things that they want in the show. The inconsistencies are there if people are paying attention. In ep.09 Alicent could've at least referenced back to that moment in ep.03 at the great fire (when Viserys was drunk and regretful) and then tell Otto that she"interpreted" Vis' last words as Aegon should ascend and that "you are the one" based at that moment in ep.03. They want us to sympathize with her, which would be okay, if there is enough evidence to suggest that she moves pieces on the board based on her own will instead of Otto's goals or Larys' schemes.

😂 ha ha ha! Glad you liked it!

@@guihuppe yeah that was hilarious XD. I love the edit of his face on that dancer XD

Let us pour our cups to this STRONGGGGGG woman 😂

She's a strong woman but she doesn't speak up to her father, even when people are being murdered. Doesn't stop Larys anymore. Doesn't stop Crispin Cole anymore. And that's so annoying.

🤣 a strong woman who has built her whole life around trying to delegitamize Rhaenyra and steal her crown. A strong woman who has 0 control or connection with her own children, a strong woman who refused to listen to her husband to keep the family safe, a strong woman who let a spy jack off to her feet because she had no power or control outside of the man she was sleeping with. So strong, just inspirational 🤢

@@ateezssubtleunlabeledsexua6839 because she's an victim. she should blame her father and viserys but she can't because for the longest time, she's been the pawn and the underdog for her father's schemes and viserys's selfish desires.

she's more than a strong woman. rhaenyra's claim is built around declarations and oaths but viserys never even changed the law of inheritance for rhaenyra to surely become queen, one of the sole purposes of reigning rhaenyra is to prevent daemon to be king but she married him. she's a woman in the medieval times so think for a second and imagine how it could be even for a queen to live in a time where men can jack off and still have their ways in the world. alicent, a victim of marital rape and a child bride, you're blaming her? you're blaming her for being raped and assaulted?

And it was all for nothing in the end.

You have got to be kidding me. I felt bad for her at first but she became as power hungry as Otto. She was a selfish horrible mother, her own daughter gets bad vibes from her. She is a hypocrite and a manipulative bitch. Shaming the girl that her son raped, then putting her drunken ass of a son on the throne asap as soon as she finally killed Viserys. She’s a coat tail riding power hungry beast as the Hightowers are…

Most pathetic part. Everybody’s miserable at the end of this war but especially the Greens

Alison is not the victim and never was the victim of any circumstance more than rhynerah was. They were both women in westeros they were both subjugated to men.

@@sherayperry7435 subjugated means you’re dominated, controlled, oppressed, conquered etc. Anyone that falls under that could be considered a victim.

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so you blame viserys... thats taking a side. everyone sucked .dont endorse any faction or put pblame on 1 side. all are at fault not just 1 man

It could’ve also been avoided if alicent had actually been a good parent to both Aegon and Aemond

@@LionWithAGun I’d say that alicent is partially to blame due to being a bad parent to Aemond and Aegon, they likely would’ve turned out better if she had done a better job parenting them. I’d still say that Alicent’s father was the bigger problem though

@@jakealter5504 Nah, Aemond and Aegon needed their father in their lives and didn't have him, Viserys was too busy defending his adult daughter instead of his young sons And Aemond wasn't even that bad, he's bitter due to loosing the eye.

@@thalmoragent9344 he immediately turned bully after getting vhaegar and was even worse than the ones that mocked him. I won’t deny that viserys needed to be a better father to them but that doesn’t excuse the fact that alicent wasn’t a great mother either

Wow, thank you!

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Aaaaw thank you! I'm glad you liked this video! 😊

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Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it! 😊

Aaaaw thanks! We'll see what 2023 will bring! Your channel is doing fantastic too eh! Looking forward to seeing what you'll do in the new year!

aaaaw thanks

Aaaw thanks a lot!

You have got to be kidding me. I felt bad for her at first but she became as power hungry as Otto. She was a selfish horrible mother, her own daughter gets bad vibes from her. She is a hypocrite and a manipulative bitch. Shaming the girl that her son raped, then putting her drunken ass of a son on the throne asap as soon as she finally killed Viserys. She’s a power hungry, coat tail rider as the Hightowers are. 😅

@@Kikithewildling Honey, it’s a show. Chill out.

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@@guihuppe thank you so much for all the effort 😁

Yup

I’d say that she’s shifting more towards being a villain

No

Thanks! I'm excited to see what you think!

Thank you!

thank you 💖 looking forward to season 2

@@guihuppe I loved Alicent from the beginning. It could be that Im in love with Olivia Cooke's acting work, but Alicent is an interesting character, so much hardship yet so much grace and resiliance. I dont understand people's hate towards her.

Thanks for your encouraging comment! I hope to see you again on the channel soon

@@guihuppe I will definitely be watching,? I love your videos ❤️😊

😂 ha ha! I'll take it! Looking forward to seeing you on the channel again!

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I think she knew which is even worst,in ep.7 she makes a joke about Laenor being with his squires and ofc Ser Cristian Laughed

@@25.8.03 it was kinda funny ngl

I would loved to see a scene of Alicent and Rhaenrya finally bonding after years of resentment. Alicent pregnant with Daeron and Rhaenyra with Jace. We could have seen Viserys ignoring his wife and giving Rhaenyra more attention. Alicent's reaction to seeing Jace not looking like an Targaryen. Her worries bubbling up once again.

Rhaenyra did plenty of stuff beforehand that alicent had a right to be upset about

@@DreyfusLagoon Alicunt did too 😂

It's true that Otto could've informed Rhaenyra but Rhaenyra could've also visit her father every few months or so, I mean come on he's been pasting out for fucks sake. I mean its kind of fucked up that she only visits her father when she's in trouble and needs help.

they saw him right before he died. like they were literally having dinner with him and then he died the next day after they left. they knew he was in extremely poor health and his death was imminent. they knew he was barely clinging on to life, in fact daemon literally thinks hes being poisoned by Alicent that's why it was so stupid for them to leave. they shouldnt have to be told to stay in King's Landing when you can literally see half of the king's skull, knowing full well that she will have to ascend the throne when he dies soon. They basically want nothing to do with Viserys until he dies or they need help, otherwise they leave Alicent to act as his secretary and full time care provider. they really expected the Greens to do all the hard work of caring for this rotting old man and running his kingdom and then when he dies they'll call the Blacks over to come collect their prize.

you're confusing antagonist with villain.

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@@guihuppe That was so campy and so funny I applaud you. Viserys Estranja was something I wasn't expecting to see in this lifetime but I'm so glad I did.

@jjh2456 Baelon lived for a day hence the "Heir for a day" statement, therefore he is the first official firstborn son, Aegon is just the first to live long

@jjh2456 why are you lying? Do you even know what the term "heir" means? Why would a corpse be declared an heir? Stop messing around a still born means just that, heirs can ONLY be living beings.

@@milani7452 Because it'd be pretty fucking depressing everytime you try to mention your second son and be reminded of the son that died in a day lmfao.

@luruiz Saying Alicent is a better written Sansa is a stretch. Given the fact that Alicent ages like 14yrs in one season because/and is portrayed by two different actresses vs. Sansa having 8 seasons to develop as a character. Plus both don't have the same function and serve different roles in the show.

Agree completely except Rhaenyra also made sacrifices, she didn't marry for love and had to have children when se didn't want to, that's a big sacrifice to make when you saw your mother die of being a birthing machine

@@jennyyyy189 at that time it wasn’t a sacrifice for women to do that and Rhaenyra knew it was her duty, so that her claimed to the throne had more power and a son a legitimate son would’ve have her that, she knew that even her mother told her that she needed to fulfil her duty to the kingdom, Rhaenyra wasn’t going into it blindly, she grew up like all ladies in the kingdom knowing that a good and strong marriage will give her some sort of power and in her position she had to even more than others, she isn’t just some servant girl she was the future of the realm and now she is the queen by birthright but she never showed to anyone around her that she actually wanted to be the queen she did say it but never did what was necessary, she had affairs and children that weren’t valaryons and everyone knows this and yes the kids aren’t guilty but having bastard children wasn’t the right thing for her especially being the heir to the throne, she had freedom in the marriage that no other lady in the kingdom would’ve had, if alicent would’ve done the same the consequences she could’ve suffer… but Rhaenyra didn’t suffer any consequences at the moment until her father died cause the hightowers and everyone that was in king’s landing knew that Rhaenyra’ children are bastards, again everything needs to be seen according to the time and what she had as law not as what we modern society are or have. Alicent did everything, she sacrifice her live, her childhood and was mistreated, abused and manipulated all her life and she did everything she could to be the standard, what everyone excepted from her but Rhaenyra didn’t do that and no one ever did anything bad to her until she was an adult.

@@handonstark it WAS a sacrifice for Rheanyra that's the point, it was expected of her and she did it because she wanted to do her duty to the realm. It doesn't matter that women just did that back then, a sacrifice is something personal. She could have also gone off with Cole and been like yo bye, but she didn't, and not because of power but because her father told her about the prophecy. And people did do stuff to her, her uncle groomed her, her father emotionally neglected her, her best friend betrayed her, and she was treated with disgusting misogyny which is abuse. While Alicent also suffered greatly. Both were the victims in the first few episodes.

While Rhaenyra is more of a villain.

They had to steal part of Rhaenyra story and gave it to Helaena.

I feel the same. Rhaenyra is arrogant and selfish, and always escapes the consequences of her dids because she THE princess. On the other hand, Alicent had always been trapped and forced to try to survive, because of her father's foul schemes. Yet, better Rhaenyra on the throne than this wicked piece of shit of Aegon....

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its still a pretty shitty thing to do when someone just birthed, come on the baby has been out of the world for 5 seconds. it’s not like by waiting, that baby is gonna become Laenor’s. You can see how uncomfortable Rhaenyra looks at alicent holding her child.

Oh yes separate the child from its mother right after its born. Tell me youre a simp without telling me youre a simp

@@mercuriology45 I’m not saying it’s right, I’m just specifying what she actually meant calm down😂

@@jjh2456 yes but only one was introduced this season so I didn’t want to bring him up and I’m not sure how young they will make him. I personally think Aemond is just like Daemon, he should not rule. It’s the fact that she pretends to be this good person, rules in the name of the seven, is a just queen, but she’s not, she’s blinded by hate and fear. This is not me saying I chose one over the other. This is me being honest about the character. I feel like with the dance you have to be honest about each side because they are both wrong.

Aaaw thanks ha ha I was not expecting that today! 😋

First off .She just misunderstood Vesris,s last message about ageon uniting the kingdom. So of course she will think it's thire son. I mean it's his birth right in the first place. Why I know alicent misunderstood Vesris,s last message is because of the fact that she refused and was mad at the council when they brought up the idea of killing rhaenyra. If she really planned on usurping rhaenyra,s throne the first thing anyone would do is to kill rhaenyra. Besides even if she did usurp the throne it would be for her children because rhaenyra will kill them. If rhaenyra can ask for her 10 years old brother to be tortured like less than an hour after he lost an eye She certainly will kill them. It's not like she cares about Alicent,s or her children. Even if she doesn't kill them daemon will Also she sent peace terms to rhaenyra So she won't feel betrayed. The reason I want team green to rule is because they can uphold the kingdom and it will be in peace. They took care of the kingdom while rhaenyra was on dragonstone and Vesris was dying and couldn't do anything and the kingdom was in peace And whit ageon nHe never wanted the throne so he can't stop them from ruling But whit people like daemon Rhaenyra. They are not good rulers though But I agree rhaenyra is the rightful heir though . The reason I don't want her to rule is the fact that she will pass the throne to her bastards which is not right I think both ageon and rhaenyra don't deserve it. They just crown aemond he is better than rhaenyra and ageon

And affection for Aemond

Ha ha! I love Rhaenyra too! I just haven't got to cover her character yet.

Sure u are a green 💚 sympathizer towards the end of the video u had on black 🖤 u must pick a side 😂 before the second season

@@robertsmiley2207 hes part of the Shireen faction. we accept all parties were at fault but also that both had good intentions at heart. we dont endorse any green or black. we also have a nice warm fire to keep you warm on this long night.

@@LionWithAGun I’d say that Rhaenera was less at fault than alicent was

Team Black for the win!!

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Which makes you a willfully ignorant apologist.

@@PhotoJeticPoet i bet you're a daemon fangirl despite that he killed his first wife, choked his third, neglects his kids and groomed his child niece

Fair enough. Thanks for your constructive criticism! 🙂

Watched the video again. The four kids cornered him. He definitely did not instigate that. Baelahit him first. They also beat him up. He is entitled to defend himself.

But he didn't instigate the fight tho.

instigating a fight and throwing the first hit are two different things. he goaded them into the fight with the insults but yes Baela and Rhaena did throw the first hits.

@@dippy8053 and they could be excused as they were grieving the death of their mother

Same she's selfish manipulate and brainwashed by religion

If you kids are in danger by someone telling the truth... then maybe you should.not have made the lie. Aemond had two oppertunities to bash in heads while the two of them, Jace only drew the knife because he was upset with Aemond calling him what he was, a bastard. And by the time Luke stabbed him in the eye Aemond was allready unable to do something because Jace litterly blinded him with sand. And you can blame her because the entire reason she agreed to the marriage is because she wanted to fuck other guys and he would let her.