Did Elon Musk “Steal” Tesla? The Truth about the Early Years

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Жыл бұрын

Who really started Tesla? Elon Musk or a man named Martin Eberhard. This video clears up the early history of Tesla.
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@Newsthink Жыл бұрын

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@yuke... Жыл бұрын

nah

@Ahirwar_2004 Жыл бұрын

Nice love from india

@dariustanz7603 Жыл бұрын

@@Ahirwar_2004 dude I'm indian but none cares where one is commenting from stop seeking validation

@jaredkrater167 Жыл бұрын

It seems like semantics… if you define founding as creating the idea and the idea alone then no Elon is not a founder. That being said if you define founding as actually forming and bringing said idea to fruition then yes Elon is a founder and the primary founder at that.

@macemoneta Жыл бұрын

According to the lawsuit settlement, yes, Elon is a co-founder.

@JohnCanfield Жыл бұрын

Small correction at 05:50. No IP, means no Intellectual Property, not IP Address. Typically Patents.

@Newsthink Жыл бұрын

My bad and thank you for your keen observation

@bazoo513 Жыл бұрын

Pretty big correction, methinks. I stopped to post a far less polite comment, but then I saw yours. This is as if the text was read by someone not understanding a word of it, but isn't the narrator also the author?

@johnwilson5743 Жыл бұрын

I was fortunate to personally invest heavily in "Tesla" back in 2019, before the huge increase in share value. As part of my due diligence ( I worked in the Investment Industry) my friends and I did a very "in depth" investigation of the history of Tesla. (We follow a Top Down approach.) We pieced together a timeline of what happened from when Tesla Motors was launched in 2003, right through how the main company personnel were brought on board. How it was funded and by whom. It paints a clear picture of what happened and Musk is totally correct. Tarpenning and Eberhard registered the company but had NO MONEY. Nothing except some ideas. They were looking to buy/bring in AC Propulsion, an EV company that had already made EV prototypes. But, no dosh. They didn't really have the right connections either, to get money. So they brought in Ian Wright (a Kiwi working in Silicon Valley) Essentially, he arranged a couple of small investors, plus Elon Musk. Musk liked the basic concept of an EV but was concentrating on SpaceX. He was still flush with his Pay Pal money and "invested" $3 to 6 million to allow Tesla Motors to actually do some things with AC P. ACP wasn't interested and Eberhard and Tarpenning started heading off on a tangent and Musk realised they didn't really have a clue re external design and 6 MONTHS later, almost a year after first being registered, brought in JB Straubel. Now this was the 5 that effectively started Tesla Motors. Without all 5, Tesla would never have got off the ground. In a Court case, Musk established that all 5 would be credited with being Tesla Motors Co-founders. Eberhard shortly after "did the dirty" on Ian Wright and effectively, forced him out. He had other interests so moved on. Strange how we don't hear much about that part! The situation with bringing in Lotus for their body was all Eberhard and later Musk berated himself for going along with it. It was a nightmare and eventually Musk realised he needed to get more involved if he wanted it to be a success. Eberhard and Tarpenning wanted the next car to be a bigger, more powerful sports car but Musk said "Noooo". A family sedan should be next if they wanted to making EV's a viable option for everyday transport for humanity. (The model S) He removed Eberhard and so the Tesla legend began. They bought in Fisker as a design consultant for Model S who then proceeded to effectively "steal" the designs for S and instead, designed his own car called Fisker. Musk fired him when they thought his car designs were not good enough. Luckily he was never given the technical specs of the internal car. He was a car designer, not an engineer and completely cocked up internal cooling systems and other important aspects, meaning his Fisker cars always had problems and bombed out. Musk bought in Franz von Holzhausen who is responsible for all the rest of the Tesla vehicles. So it began...

@spacedote Жыл бұрын

Please u kindly invest in electricfication business in Africa, I dream since 2008 to start EV conversions but to even feed myself if unfounded , my dream toss me homeless

@bjorn_moren Жыл бұрын

It makes no sense for Musk to invest $6.5 million into a company that has virtually nothing. That's why I don't believe the common myth of "nothing existed at Tesla before Musk". Eberhard and Tarpenning apparently had created something valuable enough on their own to successfully complete a Series-A funding round. Musk could have easily hand-picked people and started his own EV company. He was even in talks with AC Propulsion before he invested in Tesla. But he invested in an existing company instead, because he saw the potential there. "Founder" means a very specific thing when it comes to company formation. Musk deserves a lot of credit for Tesla, but I don't understand why he obsesses over being called a founder, when he actually is not. He is responsible for 90% of Tesla's success, so now he has gained the right to redefine words? Why does it even matter? Does it matter to Ray Kroc that he was not the founder of McDonalds?

@paulkelly9250 Жыл бұрын

This is a good summary, thank you.

@lachlanB323 3 ай бұрын

@@bjorn_moren Elon mentioned. This he was told things that didn't exist and feels like he was scammed.

@lanzer22 Жыл бұрын

"IP address" (5:47) is the Internet Transport Protocol address and "IP" just means Intellectual Property by the way. :) Great video as usual. I like the fact that you didn't choose sides and just point out your research. People get way too caught up in the whole "founder" thing. It's never the name tag, but accomplishments that is important.

@timothysatyr6674 4 ай бұрын

In the world of ideas being a founder can have significant meaning

@Lwill8p Жыл бұрын

Love what you do and keep up the good work! Just a small correction, (around 5:47) in this case, IP = Intellectual Property...

@1bdollars Жыл бұрын

No IP address 😂

@iamhavalbarwari Жыл бұрын

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@CARSOFTHEFUTURE Жыл бұрын

Hey @Newsthink, great great videos, cant wait for your uploads. I think you've made a small mistake...at 5:49 i think IP means Intellectual Property. Have a nice day, and keep up the good work.

@AnemosFPV Жыл бұрын

What is it with musk and being CEO of every company. It’s hard to run one company, we are supposed to believe he runs 4?

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Why is that?

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I noticed the Magnesium also has more than your RDA of B6, what's that about?

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@joevidrine Жыл бұрын

Amazing how this story is repeated on a set schedule. At critical moments when the oligarchs are trying to buy on the cheap immediately before TESLA revenue, news technolog and earnings are about to explode. It would be interesting if the SEC would investigate this weird media sources seem to repeat these stories at specific intervals. Would be interesting to investigate the investment strategies of those financing this repeated "news". Did they short and buy Puts immediately before repeating their stories? Are they buying after covering Puts and then buying stock and Calls?

@flaskanbottle9250 Жыл бұрын

Capitalism!

@j4genius961 Жыл бұрын

Wait... Isn't Musk an Oligarch too?

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@kimberleestack589 Жыл бұрын

Tesla inc just registered for the trademark "The Greatest Car Ever." Very, very interesting. Brilliant marketing move for the entire brand.

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@the021society4 Жыл бұрын

In 5:55 you said no IP address, the problem is Elon musk is not talking about IP addresses as in Internet protocol. But he meant "Intellectual property" by IP

@yootoober2009 4 ай бұрын

ouch!

@TheDerHeld 8 ай бұрын

"No IP Address" - pretty sure Intellectual property was meant lol

@memedoable Жыл бұрын

At 5:49 - I don't think he meant IP addresses, probably Intellectual Property.

@tevinvezina1766 Жыл бұрын

5:48 Musk was referring to Intellectual Property in this tweet.

@allocation2179 Жыл бұрын

this video just shows multiple perspectives of people

@G.K.Walker Жыл бұрын

They both need to let it go. One man is retired and the other runs several different companies this is beneath both of them.

@ArcticPrimal Жыл бұрын

But Elon wont, he likes attention on twitter and during his interviews and looking like he has no flaw. He never takes accountability that maybe they were both toxic to each other instead of only blaming martin

@yootoober2009 4 ай бұрын

One tried to run EV development for VW and Lucid, how did that turn out?

@Vonliten Жыл бұрын

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@Warrior-Wisdom 11 ай бұрын

Tesla had “ no IP …. Address” I think you meant, no intellectual property😂 But maybe they had no IP address too lol!! Fantastic video btw! Very informative 👍👍

@krishcshah Жыл бұрын

5:48 i think Elon meant to say Intellectual Property and not IP address.

@pownder Жыл бұрын

5:54 small mistake in your narration Cindy. The image in the video says "No IP... " as in no intellectual property but you said "no IP address"

@climategladiator 8 ай бұрын

You know its one thing to make mistakes by starting something new and another to learn from it and fix them. Meaning both are equally important steps, to start something new and to make fixes on what mistakes might have been made in that pursuit. Hence Musks idea of discarding the former, however imperfect that might be and inserting himself as THE founder of sorts shows his lack of sporting attitude. Companies always change that CEOs and hence that isn't as much of new thing or surprising and I definitely admire Musks marketing skills to make EV as something viable. But EV STILL enjoys only a tiny portion of market share and who knows what else might become next BIG thing within a decade and that can be another locomotive mix in the market. Again starting new thing is never easier and hence even if another Elon takes over that particular new thing, it still wont take away importance of Newton or Nicola Tesla's original contributions of developing the basics......similar that of startup founders such as Eberhard.

@DinkyDingus Жыл бұрын

Couldn’t make it as a CEO of multiple EV companies. Sounds like a failure to me

@JJs_playground Жыл бұрын

Damn, looks like Cindy is doing well. That KZfaq money allowed her to buy a Tesla Model S.

@aperkins07 Жыл бұрын

Finally, truth revealed

@ilaser4064 Жыл бұрын

The company was obviously something if boy genius was willing invest crap tons of cash to muscle himself onto the board.... Anyway.... 1. Not like Elon hasn't oversold a product and raised the price 2. Not like Elon to bully his way into CEO positions 3. Doesn't Lotus make the panels? Regardless Musk was the one to demand carbon fibre panels... 4. Complaints about shipping times? Musk can talk... 5. Interesting to see Musk using the same schtick back then as he is now regarding mass layoffs "We're raising the bar on talent" 6. Musk is so damn petty he made sure he got the first roadster and then sent it into space 7. Eberhard as per contract should have received the second roadster, Musk gave him one which was a repaired wreck and bragged about it 8. Eberhard sued him for all the crap he said and his defence is his libel/defamation was 'free-speech'... Oh yeah, then he settled the suit. Don't throw stones Elon....

@yootoober2009 4 ай бұрын

6 of 165 is not tons of cash.. for a car project

@kastorstudios801 Жыл бұрын

Remember that movie The Founder, how Ray Crox stole Mcdonalds from the brother they should do a movie about this.

@K1RTB Жыл бұрын

Wait a minute: Eberhard is responsible for production issues of the model 3? How does that work?

@L_MAO_ Жыл бұрын

She is giving example of model 3 panel gaps to tell that panel gaps in the 1st roadster was not a huge problem as it is common for a newly produced car. As model 3 when it was newly produced it also had panel gaps as the roadster

@teslabot5650 Жыл бұрын

Didn't elon buy the Tesla name? Don't know what they were called.

@scientificapproach6578 Жыл бұрын

Yes

@johnwilson5743 Жыл бұрын

@@scientificapproach6578 When the Company was first registered (Incorporated) by Eberhard and Tarpenning, the name was "Tesla Motors". It was only much later (a decade) that the name was changed to simply "Tesla" to acknowledge that it was more than just a car company. (Solar, Batterries, AI, Autos, etc. About 10 different "start ups" in one)

@accountforcommenting Жыл бұрын

Even if agree that elon made company successful , he didn't create it, if a company is founded on vision of person even if some else did most of the stuff , person with vision and started it should be founder because without his vision and him it wouldn't exist in the first place

@JL-tm3rc Жыл бұрын

ebenheart was richer than elon musk back then, ebenheart did not just want to risk his own money into tesla, Ideas are worthless because no one will pay for your ideas

@accountforcommenting Жыл бұрын

@@JL-tm3rc But that person still have the right to that idea,it is very difficult to come with an idea,it is easier to fund if you have money, best example in fb buying whatsapp and instagram,zuck made them global,but not his idea or google buying youtube, entire science community is based on idea,only a genius can come up with idea but if they idea is good any idiot can fund and make it successful, but I agree one think you need money to make it work ,that everyone knows

@JL-tm3rc Жыл бұрын

@@accountforcommenting as i said eberhard was richer than elon musk in 2004 when elon musk invested in tesla. Ebenhard did not need the money of elon musk but still he chose to look for investors. What idea or technology did eberhard even come up with when what they were doing is assembling technology from different manufacturers. The roadster came out in 2008. In a way elon musk bought the name TESLA. Eberhard could have started another tesla if he wanted to.

@accountforcommenting Жыл бұрын

@@JL-tm3rc who create the Tesla, I agree soon made it successful,but he didn't create it ,Iam not attacking elon ,I was just saying the fact,it is not such a bad think ,you are acting like I said elon didn't do anything, I was just referring to the creation,Iam not fan of ebenheart

@accountforcommenting Жыл бұрын

@@JL-tm3rc Bugatti is still considered french and Lamborghini italian even though both were made successful by a German company , origin matter

@PowaPop Жыл бұрын

Musk quoted “no IP” and the commentator wrongly said “no IP address”…. IP means “Intellectual Property” not to be confused with an internet IP address 🤦‍♂️

@dariustanz7603 Жыл бұрын

Mr perfect chill out it's a mistake they'll do better next time

@PowaPop Жыл бұрын

@@dariustanz7603 yip, just thought it was funny considering the sponsor and her saying using the product helped her focus more especially when making videos. She might want a refund or pop a few more pills.

@KingsmanMossolini Жыл бұрын

Eberhard/Amberheard same thing

@patric_forreal Жыл бұрын

So it is Elon's Father + This Guy Now who shits the hell out of Musk 😂😂😂😂😂 Nice Video @cindy

@delicatetease Жыл бұрын

IP is intellectual property, not IP address

@salmanhaidr 2 ай бұрын

Correction : He was not co-founder. They both founded Tesla and Elon was an early investor.

@wljf000 Ай бұрын

Depends on how you define the term both technically and legally. If you file the paperwork but someone else does all the work to bring the idea to market, are you the lone founder? Ironically, Thomas Edison pulled that stunt with Tesla himself and claimed that all the engineer’s inventions were Edison’s alone. So, with your use of terms, the company shouldn’t be called Tesla but General Electric.

@bernhardtrian7471 Жыл бұрын

wtf was this ad at the end ....

@MGZx777 Жыл бұрын

He Despises Martin Eberhard

@snoozy04 Жыл бұрын

Elon doesn't like Bernie Sanders either. I guess it's a rich people problem.

@ehstou Жыл бұрын

5:49 no IP address? Intellectual Property right?

@jeffharmed1616 10 ай бұрын

Power Play

@paulfrank9047 6 ай бұрын

Tesla failed to be profitable until relatively recently and after huge government subsidies, selling of large amounts of stock to the public, and many rounds of fundraising. People saying Eberhard and Tarpenning’s inability to make it profitable in its early years fail to realize it takes 10-15 years for a new car company to produce vehicles at scale and to just break even. Also, teslas recent profitability is heavily dependent on carbon credits and branding which enables them to justify charging higher prices for the prestige of people being able to claim they own a Tesla. What irks me the most is Elons narcissism and unwillingness to admit he did not create Tesla and was more a financier and businessman than an engineer tinkering with car designs to make a viable electric car that was desirable to the public.

@riddermark1987 3 ай бұрын

No IP address 😂. I think you'll find IP means something else in this context 😅

@njengakim Жыл бұрын

Eberhard should not call tesla his company. In 2002 Eberhard had just as much money as Musk. Yet he never invested his money into tesla to the extent that Musk did. The idea that Eberhard is responsible for Tesla's success today is a non starter. Tesla would exist without him possibly with a different name.

@HiddenAgendas 3 ай бұрын

False, Tesla only exists today because for the first 17 years, it was being propped up with taxpayers money. Tesla lost money for 17 years straight. Tesla should be given to every US taxpayer until the full amount is paid back.

@chancerobinson5112 Жыл бұрын

While not a fan of Mr Musk, it is even more difficult to be sympathetic to Mr Eberhard.

@wolfvale7863 Жыл бұрын

If there was no Musk there would be no Tesla. Not with that global supply chain.

@urjasvi Жыл бұрын

5:49 No Intellectual Property

@urjasvi Жыл бұрын

thank you Newsthink for your gracious acknowledgment. I've just noticed that the same mistake has already been pointed out by another viewer in the past yet you've very kindly liked my comment. thank you 🙏

@lanzer22 Жыл бұрын

I founded a company myself with 2 friends, and later we had the help of a few others to make the business take off. Later we officially considered all of us as founders. Adding a few more members didn't take away any happiness or prestige from me being the "original founder" or whatever crap you call it. It always bugs me how some have to grasp onto some title and refuse to share the glory with others. Titles are superfluous to begin with. Founder status defines what you did. It's what you do today that makes the difference.

@HiddenAgendas 3 ай бұрын

LOL Tesla still has issues with Panel gaps.

@SoloMotivation Жыл бұрын

It's never too late to be what you might've been, if you can dream it, you can do it so trust yourself that you can do it and get it. I hope my message save some souls! Thanks for reading 💕💕💕💕

@1bdollars Жыл бұрын

No IP Address? 😂

@Newsthink Жыл бұрын

My bad

@ae1207 Жыл бұрын

not even sure why this video is on the fence. You have a serial failure vs serial success as Musk is much more than Tesla. If your guy was so good where are his other successes?

@rocketman3770 Жыл бұрын

Eberhard never got hard.

@erlienfrommars Жыл бұрын

Eberhard spins it like he could keep Tesla afloat to this day if he were still around instead of Musk, like it or not the reason to Tesla's success today is because of Musk.

@gpasprimus6505 Жыл бұрын

The real cars are still on the drawing board every one is buying essential overpriced future junkyard scrap

@amirMahmed Жыл бұрын

I love Elon

@misteryummyearth1055 Жыл бұрын

Musk could do it with another name ,however ,whats done is done

@marloeleven Жыл бұрын

"the reason why he is the richest man in the world" ~ as if Tesla would've been in its current state if it weren't for musk persistence. you can clearly see that he tried to build from start again and failed as he was not capable of doing what musk was able to do.

@wolfvale7863 Жыл бұрын

Tesla was the only company making cars in any quantity during the pandemic. Primarily for Musk's thinking that out sourcing is not going to work. Just as Tesla had the production bugs worked out, the world went onto countrywide lockdowns and outsourced products didn't arrive. This did not slow Tesla much.

@erlienfrommars Жыл бұрын

Same with Apple had Steve Jobs not been called back to resurrect their company.

@jeremyshearer3885 Жыл бұрын

Well elon needs to step away from the public eye and concentrate on running his company’s and stop making a fool of himself with twitter I really don’t like this guy seems like me is trying to be the Donald trump of the 80’s

@JL-tm3rc Жыл бұрын

he could run for president and he would win, it is his money why the hate

@ChopperChad Жыл бұрын

5 years from now you’ll make a video about how Musk was removed from Tesla and went bankrupt from all the lawsuits and fines.

@thepeddle Жыл бұрын

You don't believe that

@paulkelly9250 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, right, that's likely. SpaceX just launched the biggest rocket ever made. Tesla has forced the automotive industry to take ev's seriously. I guess you're hoping for the downfall of a guy who works insane hours to help us transition to a sustainable transportation and energy world. Hard to understand that. He can say crazy things on twitter but the guy is a genius, works all the time, and is changing the world for the better.

@therealistseb6597 Жыл бұрын

It’s musk who actually made this happen the other man is just beyond arrogant

@aperkins07 Жыл бұрын

But he did find the company as opposed to musk. It's misleading

@rocketman3770 Жыл бұрын

@@aperkins07 the dude hasnt done jack sht. thats why over 2 decades he didnt accomplish anything except collect the tesla stock money that funded his whole lifestyle. he should be grateful he made big money when tesla hit it big

@jean-bricerougeot6761 Ай бұрын

What's really funny about Elon Musk is that a majority of people think he's a real GENIUS... Is he ? really ? for what ? Electric car run on lithium ion, electricity is not a renewable energy. It requires enormous amount of Lithium ion to build those cars. Not only that we know that poor children in Africa have to dig deep in to get out of the ground. In addition to that Electric car basically run on Nuclear plant. This is not renewable! so what is he a genius for ? The real genius was Tesla and it's a real shame his name got stolen for that dreadful company ! May be Musk offered better direction to lead the company, but still, it does not change the fact he's not the founder, he stole it and did everything he could so that we would never hear about the names of the real founders.

@avinendrasingh8389 Жыл бұрын

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@alexwoodhead6471 Жыл бұрын

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@siddharthtiwari7437 Жыл бұрын

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@davidmacphee3549 Жыл бұрын

Dear Cindy. I tried to hold back and not tell you this but I just couldn't hold it in. You look so lovely to me in the lighting of your Tesla. You only show brief views of yourself and you are definitely NOT a computer generated voice as some may suspect.. It's like you are too perfect to be real! You really are REAL and a person to be very much admired.

@L_MAO_ Жыл бұрын

Elon is not a scared man... He has dark secrets....

@wolfvale7863 Жыл бұрын

No he has Asperger's Syndrome. He is Sheldon Cooper in RL.

@Coootane Жыл бұрын

I can understand why Eberhard is salty but the reality is that he couldnt execute the plan.

@timothysatyr6674 4 ай бұрын

Founding a company can be an exhausting endeavor. Musk rolled in when Eberhard was depleted and used unethical tactics to steal the company from him. He then used his money and fame to rewrite history to make himself a founder when he was just a torch bearer. Also because of elons clout and connections he was able to secure alot of funding from government subsidies.

@ArubaSailing Жыл бұрын

If they were that great, why did they not start another car company?

@JL-tm3rc Жыл бұрын

agree Ebernhard was even richer than elon musk back then, but ebernhard did not risk his own money so he has no one else to blame but himself

@rocketman3770 Жыл бұрын

i mean they already booted eberhard, he had initial investment into tesla, so starting another at that point would be pointless. after working with him, he found out he was an annoying trashbag

@rxzileu-6645 Жыл бұрын

@@rocketman3770 waiting 16 years to attack Musk isn’t a argument..

@rocketman3770 Жыл бұрын

@@rxzileu-6645 who was attacking musk. I was defending him

@ChinaDragon-te2vk Жыл бұрын

he was a jerk

@esco466 Жыл бұрын

Eberhard seems like a bitter guy. Truthfully, with his plan Tesla would never go anywhere. And if he's smart enough why couldn't he make it in the other stuff he went on to help do like Musk did. Point is,it doesn't matter right now coz Tesla is doing well and we know it's largely thanks to Elon.

@chrisryan7243 Жыл бұрын

Don’t agree. Elon stole his baby.

@esco466 Жыл бұрын

A baby he couldn't even feed. Why couldn't he fund it and he was a millionaire?

@thefunkydeep446 Жыл бұрын

Musk sounds petty as hell for sending him a totaled roadster. It seems to me like he is gloating for stealing his company and the icing on the cake was dropping off a trashed roadster on his doorstep.

@rocketman3770 Жыл бұрын

@@thefunkydeep446 that guy must had been a real POS if Musk did that to him lmfao

@rocketman3770 Жыл бұрын

@El Topo stop simping for Erberhard