Dwarves were more at fault because they wanted the Nauglamir and then lied to their fellow dwarves back home about what happened

Before Smaug came along, I am pretty sure I heard that Elves, Dwarves & Men in the neighbourhood of Erebor got on reasonably well, & had good relations again after Dain was made king.

By the 3rd age, I got the impression that they didn't truly *hate* hate each other. They hated each other like you hate your obnoxious neighbor. You can't stand them and want nothing to do with them, but you don't actually want them *dead* or anything.

There should be a mention of Eöl the dark elf who had a specially good relationship with dwarves

Dang that ending was the most brutal roast I've heard in a long time. 😂

"Babe wake up, new Darth Gandalf video"

If we’re being honest, the sindar were right to hate them, I mean, they paid for a service and then were basically robbed because not only did the dwarves take the product as payment, they also never actually delivered, plus they killed the king of the sindar and then raided their kingdom

Legolas and Gimli were the exception ❤

RIP Elu Thingol

Pippin's fault, it's always Pippin.

I'm inclined to put more of the blame on Elves or more specifically the Sindarin Elves. They were the ones who hunted the Petty Dwarves and in the aftermath of the sacking of Doriath, decided to blame all dwarves for anything bad resulting from something dwarves did, even to the point of blaming the Longbeards for the destruction of their own kingdom. But the dwarves have their share of the blame as well. Oh and definitely that "fool of a Took" has to take some blame! 😉

Depends on who you ask

This video is useful in helping the guy I am currently arguing with understand this relationship

Whenever you're asked why some tragic thing happened in the First or Second Age, you can answer "Fëanor" and be right 95% of the time. The sack of Doriath and the resulting enduring animosity between Sindar and dwarves is a classic example. Manwë should have grabbed the Silmarills and tossed them into the sea as soon as he heard about them, with Fëanor following a moment later.

I'm unsure but were the dwarves right in trying to claim the Nauglamir? If they tried to claim it before accepting the commission I would understand but they only tried to claim it after the work was done and payment was already agreed upon. So, in my eyes that makes them thieves, since they only tried this after the silmarill was attached since by accepting both the commission and payment they recognized the Nauglamir as Thingol's.

Can you try to make a video about the population of middle earth in 3019 ? Please, please.

Another fantastic video on an intriguing topic in the lore, ty Gandalf you've quickly become my favorite LOTR content creator.

I was just trying to find a Darth Gandalf video I haven't watched and a new one pops up. Noice.

Some lying thieving dwarves were to blame. Shame, that the rest of the dwarves couldn't own up to the treachery of their kinsman. That would have solved the issue. Pride comes before the fall... and the rest is as we say, history.

Why don't the Dwarves hate the Elves for the fact that the city of Nogrod basically got nuked in the War of Wrath? To my knowledge, there's no reference to major Elf populations being killed in the war, nor any mention of the Valar and Vanyar doing anything to save the Dwarves.

Why The Elves And Dwarves Don't Get Along (From the Tolkien Crackpot Theories page): A recent answer to the Middle-earth test supplied this answer to Question #13: 13. When the Dwarves of beautiful Khazad-Dum built their Western door, why did they allow it to be inscribed with the insulting name of "Moria" ("Black Pit"), a name that would only be earned long years afterwards? They could not understand what Narvi was writing on the door. (After all, Dwarves used Cirth). So it was a practical joke by the Elves. Which leads me to think that the scene before the Gate of Moria should have gone more like this: "They say only: The Doors of Durin, Lord of Moria. Speak, friend, and enter. And underneath small and faint is written: I, Narvi, made them. Celebrimbor of Hollin drew these signs. And under that, in little tiny letters, I can just make out: Dwarves are little stunty bowlegged cretins and their women are ugly. And with their poor eyesight and their native stupidity they'll never even be able to read this. Bwah hah hah hah."

Can you someday do a video explaining what the heck the petty dwarves were (or if you have, point me to it)?

Weren’t Dwarves and Elves pretty much destined to hate each other due to the proclamation when the Dwarves were first created?

Depends on the history of certain groups. It's true that durins folk were the more amenable then other houses. Plus you had the Dwarven help in the blue mountains during the first age for a time..

I wonder if any elves worked in customer service and a dwarf had a complaint?

The greatest guilt of course falls on Scotsmen ... sorry, the English ... sorry, the Irish ... sorry, the Picts.

I'd put my money on Elves hunting Dwarves because they mistook them for animals

What would have become of the Witch King if Sauron had won the war?

Yes it is interesting that people think dwarf and elf aren't friend.. like were they watching when legolas and gimler were fighting for the most kills and legolas kill the elepahnt (gimler then say only count as 1 !)

how did the Keebler elves get on with dwarves?

I doubt if Celeborn's regard for Dwarves improved much after one of them showed up in Lothlorien and started eyeing up his wife. Legolas: "what was her gift to you?" Gimli: "I asked for a single strand of hair, from her golden head. She gave me three" Legolas: "Nice" Gimli: "Yeah, but Celeborn gave me two black eyes and a broken nose"

I blame the scotts for the elves and dwarfs strife

Good one

You Scots sure are a contentious lot.

Because one is a race of perfect beings lovingly placed in the land to improve everything they touch.... And the other is elves

Both sides was a fault

What's the background music? 🤔

It's obviously the fault of a fool of a Took

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