Did Giants Build the Temples of Malta?

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The Lore Lodge

The Lore Lodge

Жыл бұрын

In Episode 3 of Graham Hancock's Ancient Apocalypse series, the author and investigator heads to Malta to explore what he believes may be traces of an ancient civilization, one we typically refer to as "Atlantis". By calculating the movements of stars, dating archaic human teeth, and referencing island folklore, Graham makes a persuasive argument for a much old date of settlement in Malta than is currently accepted, but is he to be believed? We dove into the sources Graham uses, the research that has and hasn't been done, and we don't think either side is going to be happy with what we determined. Welcome back to The Lore Lodge...
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@nicholasdalli6303
@nicholasdalli6303 Жыл бұрын
Just one little correction from a Maltese history student/teacher-to-be: Malta gained independence from the British in 1964 (not 1956 like is said in the video) with the Queen still remaining as Head-of-State until 1974 when we attained the status of Republic, free from Britian in totality.
@TraTranc
@TraTranc Жыл бұрын
A huge number of Maltese also have Italian surnames and most Maltese speak Italian, also.
@kerrican5283
@kerrican5283 Жыл бұрын
That’s super cool information! This whole video has me wanting to learn more about Maltese ancient history, so thanks for providing that!
@intrynzyk
@intrynzyk Жыл бұрын
They also didn't want independence, they had a referendum and the majority wanted to be integrated as a part of Britain.
@TheLoreLodge
@TheLoreLodge Жыл бұрын
My bad! I think I mixed up the date they decided against joining the UK with their independence. Might have that mixed up too, I do make mistakes 😅
@secretagent5954
@secretagent5954 Жыл бұрын
nerd
@Idaho-Cowboy
@Idaho-Cowboy Жыл бұрын
I just realized missing Atlantis is missing 411 but for a whole city.
@jordanpatterson2520
@jordanpatterson2520 Жыл бұрын
So is Roanoke
@Alexandraadftxr7052
@Alexandraadftxr7052 Жыл бұрын
Atlantis is an island.
@stalinsoulz7872
@stalinsoulz7872 Жыл бұрын
​@@jordanpatterson2520lore lodge generally said we have a general idea where and what happened to the colony but the missing key is where are the bodies or if which of the hostile tribes may have been taken those slain bodies. Since white's daughter said they were attack and the theory of mingling with the natives is very threading on eggshells at best.
@NoneOfyourbusiness-wi1iy
@NoneOfyourbusiness-wi1iy 11 ай бұрын
​@@jordanpatterson2520Roanoke is solved
@NoneOfyourbusiness-wi1iy
@NoneOfyourbusiness-wi1iy 11 ай бұрын
​@@stalinsoulz7872probably just animals who ate them. This was before the Appalachian wolves and mountain lions had been hunted to near extinction, bears too. They were also sailing across the Atlantic on wooden boats, so the bodies would have been left there for months if not a year or more.
@thelarisa
@thelarisa Жыл бұрын
The appearance of Wendigoon + GIANTS absolutely finished me LOL. That entirely aside, I learned so much from this, thank you!
@FOTAProductions
@FOTAProductions Жыл бұрын
I don’t know if you did this before, but I like that when you quote someone, you put a picture of them on the screen.
@Bagginsess
@Bagginsess Жыл бұрын
Same, easier to remember a name with a face than a name in a sea of other names in the story.
@jms855
@jms855 Жыл бұрын
SAME!!!
@rafaelmesaglio1399
@rafaelmesaglio1399 11 ай бұрын
Does this mean Wendigoon is a giant?
@shakinthebaccon
@shakinthebaccon 10 ай бұрын
GIANTS!!!
@kylewilson3751
@kylewilson3751 7 ай бұрын
The myth of the giant wendigoon
@caitlindenny2679
@caitlindenny2679 Жыл бұрын
“You get to go to space Jeff, let me find Atlantis” needs to go on a TShirt 😂
@Highspergamy
@Highspergamy Жыл бұрын
I already found Atlantis.
@ladicusaiur1513
@ladicusaiur1513 Жыл бұрын
The point you made about reaching people on the fence at 54:20 is absolutely key, it shocks me how many people I've seen fall down conspiracy rabbit holes (myself included) and end up believing some really wacky stuff purely because all the experts in that area laugh and accidentally censor the fringe conspiracies. If it's approached reasonably, and debunked in a respectful way, it draws so many people away from false beliefs. You're honestly doing an amazing job at just that, I was telling a friend about this exact thing just a few days ago and that entire conclusion was a perfect example of it!
@5678sothourn
@5678sothourn 9 ай бұрын
To be fair, most are burned by the Flat Earthers and trying to convince them
@kylewilson3751
@kylewilson3751 7 ай бұрын
Your logical consistency is refreshing. I cant get enough of it
@sevaughnparsons8937
@sevaughnparsons8937 Жыл бұрын
That wendigoon cut is prime 👌🏽😂
@Three_Sevens
@Three_Sevens 2 ай бұрын
I noticed this comment at the same time I saw his face pop up Good timing
@skyekeating349
@skyekeating349 Жыл бұрын
Has Graham Hancock ever played the Assassin's Creed games? I think he'd really like them. It has an ancient race of hyper advanced beings that controlled humanity before dying off in a cataclysm thousands of years ago. You actually visit Atlantis in one of the games. It really seems like the kind of thing he would enjoy.
@forkittens
@forkittens Жыл бұрын
big true. i think he'd love the first game most.... but there is a good chance he'd like the 2nd game more... the viking one wasn't very historically cool, and i didn't play the third one.... what AC game do you think graham would like the most?
@angeloftheuchiha.4810
@angeloftheuchiha.4810 Жыл бұрын
​@@forkittensorgins he isn't interested in Greek history sadly😢
@leonidaspereirafilho499
@leonidaspereirafilho499 11 ай бұрын
@@forkittenshe would like Black Frag sorely because pirates. Also 1 and 2.
@EldritchWhore420
@EldritchWhore420 6 ай бұрын
Those devs knew something I swear, I think it'll come out that stories like that are far closer to truth than anyone is comfortable with
@AngraMango
@AngraMango Жыл бұрын
Reminds me Mr.mythos did a video on Malta with giants too. Wendigoon is gonna go nuts.
@alphooey
@alphooey 5 ай бұрын
Came here wondering if Wendigoon’s ears were twitching.
@naomiseraphina9718
@naomiseraphina9718 Жыл бұрын
Bravo! Fantastic video! I love your fairmindedness and your devotion to actual rigorous scholarship. I wish more people were as even-handed as you are when evaluating theories, and I wish more people actually bothered to do real research before making their theories and opinions public! Rock on, Sir!
@mattparker9726
@mattparker9726 Жыл бұрын
I subbed to your channel about a week ago, and have been binge watching all your stuff, I'm not caught up yet, but this was too cool to pass up. I'm VERY curious about your theories, I haven't visited Malta myself, but I know people who have, and they're all baffled by the structures on the island.
@christophermanley2663
@christophermanley2663 Жыл бұрын
And I forgot to tell you in my last comment that your channel is def 1 of the most intelligent I've come across with the most academically sound arguments & explanations around. Quite impressive to anyone that knows these topics and how to present such in a way that more than conspiracy theorists & nuts will find compelling and influential. We'll done sir, we'll done indeed.
@codybassett112
@codybassett112 Жыл бұрын
Gotta say I love this series and really makes me want to get into research again
@coryvogelgesang
@coryvogelgesang Жыл бұрын
Super Excited. Always good content!
@DracoLogan24
@DracoLogan24 Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed doing the research for this with you! Good shit
@budgreenjeans2001
@budgreenjeans2001 Жыл бұрын
Aidan does his own research thank you
@DracoLogan24
@DracoLogan24 Жыл бұрын
@@budgreenjeans2001 sorry if you were misunderstood, but Aidan contracts me to help with the archaeological research for videos covering that topic since I am an archaeologist.
@budgreenjeans2001
@budgreenjeans2001 Жыл бұрын
@@DracoLogan24 No worries it’s easy to get confused with Aiden’s proprietary use of the English language
@booshbear
@booshbear Жыл бұрын
love how he explains meltwater pulse 1B as if he doesnt bring it up every video❤
@JDPetty0990
@JDPetty0990 Жыл бұрын
Aidan don't play the "watch all 100 of my episodes to know what I'm talking about" game.
@TheLoreLodge
@TheLoreLodge Жыл бұрын
@@JDPetty0990 that is precisely why I do it
@novushomo1311
@novushomo1311 Жыл бұрын
classics master student here, from the linguistic side of things rather than archaeological. What you had to say about the archaeological community and their shortcomings nearer the end of the video was spot on. They are far too quick to disregard literary connections, are often times quite lazy in their own research, and simply want you to respect them because of their time "in the field" (i.e. a vacation in Italy or Greece for a summer, with lots of drinking) or their degree; what is especially frustrating is when you have the same level of education as them lol. Keep on keeping on my guy, love this channel.
@sleepyproduction7166
@sleepyproduction7166 7 ай бұрын
Academics really need knocked down a peg or a few, because Forrest gallente points out how animal/wildlife academics will know how many teeth an animal has, and read every book on what the animal does. But have never actually been in the field with these animals they claim to be an expert on. There’s been people who live along side animals and said ‘hey they’re moving out to this area or doing this new thing’ and the academics shut them down saying they know everything there is to know about the animals
@jamesdaviesanswers8751
@jamesdaviesanswers8751 Жыл бұрын
Phenomenal job as always gentleman. I can’t wait for your video on sound of freedom.
@gravejello2331
@gravejello2331 Жыл бұрын
It’s so frustrating how much Graham paints himself and his theories to be “anti establishment” and against the mainstream narrative to give himself some credibility. As soon as certain people hear things like that they’re already prone to believe him. It’s even more frustrating because he clearly has a thirst for knowledge that he can use to actually shine a spotlight on ancient civilizations that aren’t heard about but chooses to do this
@shaftomite007
@shaftomite007 Жыл бұрын
You're wrong ... The only thing Graham Hancock has a thirst for is money. If he gave a shit about actual knowledge he could easily take the time to better understand the academic rigor and validity behind his much-hated "mainstream" archeology etc
@yogibear496
@yogibear496 Жыл бұрын
He’s a complete liar he’s never mentioned typrilla once he doesn’t even know who sintashta is and like many so called historians he avoids dna evidence the least bias data we have
@googleisaterroristorganizan
@googleisaterroristorganizan Жыл бұрын
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@PalmelaHanderson
@PalmelaHanderson Жыл бұрын
I agree. As soon as he opens up by saying "I'm going to tell you the things THEY don't want you to hear!" it's manipulation, which I don't like. And oftentimes there are faaaaaaaar reaches between his evidence and his conclusions.
@royriley6282
@royriley6282 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, he's not against the mainstream narrative or antiestablishment at all. The endless swath of hitpieces and ad hominems leveled at him from both media and academia is simply the result of objective, empirical thinkers, the kind of empirical thinkers who love debate and so choose to shut it down and make it impossible at every turn. Excuse me I need to stop now, this npc think is literally hurting my head.
@eldritchmoose
@eldritchmoose Жыл бұрын
As a Maltese, the first time I heard about this I was absoltely baffled by the concept. But hey, we made it into another youtube video! Your pronounciation of 'Ġgantija' is amusing, I give you an A for effort
@sAssclown
@sAssclown Жыл бұрын
Thank you for always giving the most fair and balanced assessments of historical and archaeological data that I can find. You have a wonderful knack for being able to look at things from multiple perspectives and not let biases sway your research.
@meekaeelabdul5585
@meekaeelabdul5585 3 ай бұрын
I love grahams theory purely cause he said 12 thousand years ago there was a cataclysmic event that changed the world and caused major catastrophes I only love it cause it's true based on the evidence and it isn't a crazy theory to say that there is a lot of human history that was destroyed during that time Much like Aidan says how humans evolve and are stubborn I.e nature can make a environment uninhabitable for animals but when it does that to us we either upgrade or die then upgrade It would just be crazy to see how far some cultures were along before they were wiped out
@colindavidson6483
@colindavidson6483 Жыл бұрын
I am so impressed with your level of knowledge, research and relatively unbiased opinions. This is refreshing
@EldritchWhore420
@EldritchWhore420 6 ай бұрын
Very biased opinions lmao
@njt226
@njt226 Жыл бұрын
I recommend watching Miniminuteman's series of debunking Ancient Apocalypse. Not only is it really informative about archeology and history, it's also pretty funny.
@jeremiahh.3383
@jeremiahh.3383 10 ай бұрын
That's the last guy anyone should be watching. He doesn't so much refute anyone as much as he goes to great lengths to talk condescendingly towards people who's theories differ from what you read in textbooks some of which don't go as far as to even entertain what led to the development of the amazing structures at theses historical sites.
@njt226
@njt226 10 ай бұрын
Clearly you didn't actually watch the videos, as he backs up his humor with actual facts and evidence in every point he makes. Don't spread misinformation.@@jeremiahh.3383
@ObossRocks
@ObossRocks 10 ай бұрын
Lmao ill pass
@thatguyharambe8757
@thatguyharambe8757 10 ай бұрын
Lmao Minuteman has such a hard on for hating Hancock, it's pathological. And him being a condescending jackass consistently turns me off tremendously.
@FabricofTime
@FabricofTime 4 ай бұрын
@@jeremiahh.3383 do you have a specific criticism of the way he handled a specific piece of evidence, with solid evidence to the contrary?
@PetalPalmer
@PetalPalmer Жыл бұрын
Oooh very interesting video. Amazing work - really great research put into this!
@iservHim
@iservHim 6 ай бұрын
Every single time I watch a video that talks about the development of ancient civilizations, it makes me want to go play Civ hahaha Also, I always headbang to your theme music 🤘🏼
@Lusa_Iceheart
@Lusa_Iceheart 3 ай бұрын
My sister has a masters in Geology and she told me a really interesting piece of science history. Back in the 1930s, well before the discovery of Tectonic plates it was assumed that the continents were static and didn't ever move. A meteorologist at the time studying climate areas notices a bizarre pattern that indicated many climate zoned 'lined up' with places on other continents. His research was the first to prove that the jigsaw puzzle of Africa and South America fitting together actually was because they were once one piece and not simply a coincidence. He took his findings to a major convention of geologists and was hoping that this gathering of the top geologists on the planet would know what to make of his info. They laughed him out of the room and told him he had no credentials for geology, he couldn't possibly have anything to contribute to their field and basically told him to go back to cloud watching. Two decades and the Second World War go by, the meteorologist passes away and the geology community gets a call from Uncle Sam and the DoD. The US navy has it's fleets of submarines mapping the ocean floor and they found this giant ass ridge, longer than whole continents, running down close to the middle of the Atlantic ocean. The military wanted to know what the fuck it was and like the government is good at doings, a lot of money was thrown at studying the Mid Atlantic Ridge. As a result of the intense study of the ocean floors geography, Geologists where forces to admit that maybe that weather guy they mocked a few decades before was onto something. Now, we take for granted the fact that Plate tectonics is accepted science and that's the normal stuff taught in school. Back when the Boomers where in school, it wasn't, it was cutting edge science and a very NEW idea, a complete paradigm shift. Academia hates Paradigm shifts and they hate anyone who pokes a hole in the paradigm. The problem is, sometimes the paradigm is just *wrong* and it takes someone with a different perspective to see why it's wrong. I appreciate the Graham Handcock Atlantis theory for this reason. Even if Handcock is wrong about 99% of his theory, that 1% that's right breaks a lot of the accepted paradigm. It is important to find these flaws in the paradigm because they open up huge new segments of our own history and just general knowledge to us. If we care about history actually being a study of the true events of the past, then we need to consider *everything* that can be proven to be true. Otherwise, once we begin to ignore truth in history, we go down the same road the Holocaust deniers or 'Moon landing was fake' people do. You don't get to say you value the Truth and then ignore parts of it; there is only one Truth, one way History happened, no such thing as 'my truth' or 'your truth'. I want History to be about Truth, not the 'truth' that some stodgy tenured professor with an ego problem believes to be the 'truth'. Ad hominin attacks on the credibility of Hancocks book back in the 90s didn't make Golbeki Tepi any less real when it was found a few years later There's was in fact evidence of organized civilization LONG before Sumer and Mesopotamia. We need to keep looking and having more people interested in the search (even if they have quirky ideas) is not a bad thing. How many archeologists ARE trained scuba divers? How many know how to operate a drone to scan the rainforests of South America with LIDAR? other people with other specialties can help. Dissing someone as 'not credible' just because they aren't an archeologist is exactly what geologists did to the meteorologist who discovered plate tectonics. Academia is shooting itself in the foot by being as obsessed about specialization and 'staying in your lane' like it is. Where are the great polymaths and geniuses who are experts in a half dozen unrelated fields? Why in the most educated period of history do we not have any Da Vincis or Newtons and why was Einstein and Hawkings our last great scientists? Even Einstein fell into the elitism trap of academia when Hawkings came along in the 50s and challenged him on Black Holes. Turns out General and Special relativity had an error: black holes DO leak radiation and we call it Hawking Radiation because of the man who challenged Einstein himself. It's ironic that Einstein, a man who rewrote the paradigm on physics, was so upset when a younger and equally intelligent physicist challenged HIS paradigm after it became the accepted, uncontested truth. (Sidenote: The best argument to use against one of the 'moon landing was fake' people is to point out that not even the Soviets argued that point. If ANYONE was going to claim the US was lying about the Apollo 11 landing and actually had the ability to back up what they were claiming, it was the Soviets. Instead, they watched the US land, and had nothing to say to counter it so just quietly accepted defeat in the Space Race.)
@usnerfout
@usnerfout Жыл бұрын
Just a small note several orders from the crusades exist today albeit so much as military orders but have more charitable functions now. The hospitalars are one of those as well as the order of the holy sepulcher who even still act as honor guard for certain church events, and the order of st. Lazarus of Jerusalem who fund hospitals all over the world. It's actually a pretty cool bit of history that i just found out recently. All that to say your content is amazing keep it up.
@justananomaly
@justananomaly Жыл бұрын
I can't help but smile everytime I see you and Wendigoon post
@jeffhough7460
@jeffhough7460 Жыл бұрын
Another great video guys i appreciate your efforts and research
@TheLoreLodge
@TheLoreLodge Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@jeffhough7460
@jeffhough7460 Жыл бұрын
Hey they end of the month came and went any word on that desk drawing? I've been standing at my computer for over 4 years because the spot I have it in for safety is yo higher for any chair in my house, I know it's unlikely I get the draw but I've been thinking about it a ton
@TheLoreLodge
@TheLoreLodge Жыл бұрын
@@jeffhough7460 the winner will receive an email this week
@jeffhough7460
@jeffhough7460 Жыл бұрын
@@TheLoreLodge aww shucks cool and thanks again guys!
@VideoGamingSociety
@VideoGamingSociety 11 ай бұрын
6:09 a wild Wendigoon appeared! 😱😨😮
@dennistate5953
@dennistate5953 Жыл бұрын
Aiden, you're aidin' us all. Thanks dude.❤
@jamesm-sl3oc
@jamesm-sl3oc 2 ай бұрын
Your pronunciations on all the names are just ever so slightly different from what I’m used to and for some reason I find it entertaining.
@Dalton-xg7je
@Dalton-xg7je 2 ай бұрын
After day of hunting listening to your vids while starting the cleaning and tanning process is my fav part of the week
@mightymik3yb1008
@mightymik3yb1008 Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah! Lore lodge! My day is made.
@dotexe6415
@dotexe6415 Жыл бұрын
I don't know much about my heritage, but there's one thing that always sticks with me - the4e are more Maltese people living around the world than in Malta itself!
@MrCreepandJeep
@MrCreepandJeep Жыл бұрын
Just found your channel 😀 very interesting 🤔 We have a lot to watch 😊
@tjfraire6952
@tjfraire6952 Жыл бұрын
I really like ur videos cuz I do watch a lot of other videos like the one u are talking about & it’s really nice to hear the other side. Please make more. I also really like how ur respectful, give credit where do & it’s not just a Roast. Thanks again & gods bless every1.
@EvanFilm
@EvanFilm Жыл бұрын
Cover the selucid empire. A Greek empire that stretched across the middle east all the way to India/China
@clementineganey5194
@clementineganey5194 11 ай бұрын
Love how click-baity these titles are, knowing that when someone exposed to this conspiracy will click on this to learn more and inadvertently learn more. Big brain
@draco-tv3gg
@draco-tv3gg Жыл бұрын
I will say that I remember hearing a similar story about quetzalcoatl leaving and saying he would return but I can't for the life of me figure out from where. It can't have been from Graham because I remember hearing it years ago and I've only heard of Graham from your videos talking about him
@TheFredoKnight
@TheFredoKnight Жыл бұрын
Where do you guys list your sources? (Great video btw!)
@nessie6899
@nessie6899 Жыл бұрын
Shoutout to Plato making an allegory akin to Icarus about getting too greedy too fast and now people are like “but where is it. I know it’s real. Where is it” girl where is animal farm hiding
@berserkasaurusrex4233
@berserkasaurusrex4233 Жыл бұрын
He specifically says (or rather, the Egyptian priest who is telling Solon about Atlantis) that many ancient mythical stories are actually retellings of ancient historical events, like catastrophes that wiped out previous cultures. It's an odd detail to add to something he intended as a pure allegory.
@sleepyproduction7166
@sleepyproduction7166 7 ай бұрын
There’s a guy who did some research into the eye of Sahara, a place in Africa and when you look from satellite you can see where a massive wave washed across North Africa. Probably what Atlantis was since there is a mountain to the west and there was a place with a king of the same name mentioned by Plato to the east
@jessc5112
@jessc5112 5 ай бұрын
@@sleepyproduction7166most good stories have a shred of truth or historical basis esp when the story is meant to be a lesson or convey a message. gladiator has a historical basis but we know from the context that its a just a good story not a depiction of history as it literally happened.
@Mephilis78
@Mephilis78 Жыл бұрын
So, dude, here's yet another interest that we have in common. Ancient history. So there's folklore, fringe missing persons cases, supernatural/paranormal.... And now ancient history. I wonder if this extends to ancient architecture.
@monsieursoze4859
@monsieursoze4859 Жыл бұрын
archeoastronomy archeoacousty the alchemical secrets of the first Churches
@stuartruffner871
@stuartruffner871 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely freakin love this channel!!
@antagonizerr
@antagonizerr Жыл бұрын
Graham Hancock's general method for dating sites is based on which way their door faces, then he goes into the charts to see where the solstice would have shone through it and suggests that's the actual date. So based on that, I'm going to have to call my Realtor because apparently my house is actually 12,000 years old and WASN'T built in 1992.
@billgentry12
@billgentry12 Жыл бұрын
Do people build houses today to face constellations or stars? Does the natural sunrise/set line up perfectly through 3 separate windows depending on if it’s a solstice or equinox? Of these megaliths he says face constellations, which ones have evidence of being homes or houses? Grahams argument is weak but your counter is weaker.
@antagonizerr
@antagonizerr Жыл бұрын
@@billgentry12 Lol yes we do. We build houses with northern or southern exposures to ensure adequate lighting through our windows at different times of the year. We LITERALLY build our houses based on the sun's processions. Point for my argument...hahaha
@billgentry12
@billgentry12 Жыл бұрын
@@antagonizerr I’ll ask again. And please answer the rest of my questions too. Do we build houses to face constellations or stars? I’m not talking about natural light. Do we build houses to face the rising sun on equinoxes or solstices?
@antagonizerr
@antagonizerr Жыл бұрын
@@billgentry12 I did. I think you're understanding me without actually understanding me. Build a house with...say...a southern exposure. Your door won't be facing the equinox or solstice or any "important" star tho, right? Well, if you look at the tables, you'll find a period within the last 12-15,000 years where it would have. That's because of Earth's eccentricity. That's what Graham is using to come up with his earlier dates. The ancients build structures with facings that allowed in the MOST POSSIBLE LIGHT but not necessarily face the equinox or solstice or any star. That's because walls close to 2 feet thick...construction methods not allowing for large windows, etc. they need to orient them for maximum internal lighting. HOWEVER, if you were to go into the tables, much like Graham does, their doors WOULD face either the equinox or solstice and failing that, some star or other that Graham deems they "must have" thought important. It's a bit like looking for the time 11:11 on a clock. Over a long enough timeline you'll look at your clock, and it's be exactly 11:11, and probably more than once. It's not as big a statistical improbability as you think.
@billgentry12
@billgentry12 Жыл бұрын
@@antagonizerr bro I know what natural light is lmao. Graham isn’t talking about houses. Which megaliths that graham proposes have evidence of being houses or homes? That’s one question I asked that I want answered. It makes sense homes were built with maximum natural light. I’m curious about the megaliths that mesh perfectly with astronomy. If megaliths slowly turn the more recent they’re made, it’s just intuitive that they’re following something. I’m not saying aliens came down and helped hunter gatherers. I just find it more plausible that there was an older civilization that spread knowledge. How come most older civilizations we know all have a similar apocalypse and creation story? “Huge apocalypse, man comes and spreads knowledge, proceeds to leave” How did civilizations all around the world create similar megalithic sites? Is it just human nature to build huge stone sites that for the most part align with astronomical groups or events? Science has been wrong more than it’s been right. I’m not saying the current narrative is wrong, but we shouldn’t shut down opposing narrative without looking at them with an open mind. I don’t think there was an ancient globe wide civilization. I just think it was similar to now(advanced civies in the world but we still live alongside hunter gatherers), most advanced civies by the oceans, which would be the first to go in an event of large amounts of sea level rise. I just think a small group survived and spread their knowledge to the lesser advanced. Idk why this is so controversial when we have evidence of a mass extinction around that time, evidence of a dramatic shift in climate, and evidence of anatomically similar humans at that time. Did we just not have civilizations for 85-90% of the time we’ve been the same creatures? Or maybe a huge cataclysm just fucked everybody’s life up and we’ve been rebuilding ever since. Graham has written some wild shit in his time. That’s why I’m not 100% on his side, but he proposes reasonable questions that need to be answered. But all I see is instant dismissal, and even people calling him a nazi or white supremacist. When if you actually watch his show, he hates what the colonizers did to the natives and their structures. Attack his points not just “my house could be 11,000 years old by his logic”. We know 100% your house isn’t that old. No one’s house is. If he says “it’s off because its so old.” You have to disprove him by dating the structure. If it’s not old enough he’s just wrong, but instead I always see “you nutter no way it’s that old/they didn’t care that much about the stars/no one at the time advanced enough to be that accurate” just straight up infantilizing ancient humans.
@Casimir1998
@Casimir1998 Жыл бұрын
loved the pic of the great wendigoon :D
@dangerxbadger2300
@dangerxbadger2300 Жыл бұрын
Your videos are always so damn fascinating and make me miss studying history so much. What an interesting subject! Thanks for scratching my "know esoteric things" itch, as always! ❤
@peterbarton6273
@peterbarton6273 Жыл бұрын
the pic of wendigoon when mentioning giants is the best part of the episode
@purpleoryx1774
@purpleoryx1774 10 ай бұрын
I *am* a trained archaeologist, and this is very good. I particularly like the defense of Neaderthals. My former advisor would go off about their public reputation, lol.
@WardahTheBlaqQ
@WardahTheBlaqQ Жыл бұрын
24:30 - at this point you're just describing a bunch of my neighbors, though :D
@problematicfarmer2974
@problematicfarmer2974 Жыл бұрын
shoutout to my bestie logan for his research on this 🙏
@coyote4936
@coyote4936 Жыл бұрын
what if someone 18,000 years dug up the two neanderthal teeth and threw them on the ground making them be at the 18,000 year level?
@Lilmilker
@Lilmilker Жыл бұрын
There’s still radio carbon dating that can figure out how old the teeth are
@eldraque4556
@eldraque4556 Жыл бұрын
nice one, cheers bruv
@greengoblin876
@greengoblin876 Жыл бұрын
Do one on the endless Positivity of BrentlyG ... that dude could Enthuse the saddest of sad folk ...where he gets his mindset and energy is the true mystery... either that or he LOVES nosebeers
@roseanimation6932
@roseanimation6932 Жыл бұрын
U should cover the Canadian family that went missing thirty years ago. Their last name was Park and they’re case has little coverage.
@dniexodus2795
@dniexodus2795 11 ай бұрын
Been watching your channel and I wich everyone in the fields I research do as thorough a job as you, while you do touch on many topics I am researching , I'm quite curious you thoughts on them. Mainly the cross referencing of civilizations pulling their structure and belief systems from sumer.
@user-rq9fc1ld6w
@user-rq9fc1ld6w 4 ай бұрын
Linguist & hobby archaeologist here. Both of these fields are similar. I once heard a linguistics professor dismiss a well-done study by a renowned Economist that found a correlation between cultures that address future events in the present tense and the culture-wide average savings of each household. Fascinating study. The reason the professor gave? "This guy isn't a linguist; he doesn't know what he's talking about, and that just doesn't make sense." Both fields want to be taken seriously, but professionals in each field are just... ridiculous.
@user-rq9fc1ld6w
@user-rq9fc1ld6w 4 ай бұрын
It's incredibly frustrating. I ripped into the professor, asking her how the field would ever be viewed as relevant or even taken seriously when they fail repeatedly to stick to the scientific method, and when they teach that IN CLASSES.
@iwales6507
@iwales6507 11 ай бұрын
It's pronounced (eye-sis) btw I know cause I was never after her lol. Obsessed with your channel btw.
@TrueTydin
@TrueTydin 2 ай бұрын
Watching this to sate my appetite while I wait for the whyfiles ep on it to come out
@remylebeau7258
@remylebeau7258 Жыл бұрын
Procreating with Sansuna must be like throwing a hotdog into the grand canyon.
@remylebeau7258
@remylebeau7258 Жыл бұрын
What position......
@archangel5627
@archangel5627 Жыл бұрын
Prior to the destruction of the library of Alexandria, the Disintegration of the Sumerian, Mesopotamian, and Ancient Greek societies, and the fall of the Holy Roman Empire, mankind definitely had amassed a massive and impressive wealth of general knowledge in the fields of math, science, astronomy, and biology, that we find to be almost impossible for them to obtain but yet they did. I find it absolutely arrogant and pretentious that our current society believes the average person today is smarter than the people of the past. If anything people are becoming dumber by the day. I believe we don’t give ancient man enough credit for there incredible achievements and accomplishments.
@beachcomberbob3496
@beachcomberbob3496 2 ай бұрын
There is also some intriguing archaeology on Menorca (the Balearic Islands) further west in the Med. Megalithic Talaiots and burial Naveta structures. Makes you wonder, if they were always small islands in a vast sea, why would people choose to settle there in favour of mainland areas with plenty of room, and more fertile soil, to carry on a successful agricultural society.
@Balrog-tf3bg
@Balrog-tf3bg Жыл бұрын
The whole Tartaria thing has just made me believe that the people who follow it are re - tartar + Tedward - “ward”
@aidanmatthewgalea7761
@aidanmatthewgalea7761 Жыл бұрын
Hello, Maltese here. if Atlantis was real, our government would have taken out 300 deals with Arabic oil tycoons in black budget projects just to resurface Atlantis to use as a tourist trap and segregate like 1/4th of it for the ministers and government officials, with the prime minister making the palace at the centre his new home, and dedicating the front courtyard as journalist target practice.
@montananerd8244
@montananerd8244 9 ай бұрын
Omg my dog learned how to play videos and apparently loves lore lodge 😂
@PalmelaHanderson
@PalmelaHanderson Жыл бұрын
I generally agree that there probably is a lot more to pre-Bronze age human history than is generally believed, and the reason there isn't a lot of evidence for it is because a lot of it was either built with materials that degrade and/or most of it is just underwater now and/or people built on top of it. Once humanity reached the "civilization" stage of development, we tended to build places at the same spots (estuaries, river confluences, etc), so there could be all kinds of stuff buried under cities from 8,000 years ago or whatever that we'll never see because they're buried far underneath peoples' houses. However, the idea that there was some globe-spanning civilization is an extraordinary claim to make, and extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.
@saxtonavery
@saxtonavery 11 ай бұрын
6:09 wendigoon jumpscare
@96Logan
@96Logan Жыл бұрын
Great video! I love your presentation style and the respect you give when covering (and sometimes correcting) another's work. I also like Milo (Miniminuteman), but he can come across as too arrogant for my taste. Really the only time I remember seeing you lay into someone was when the Tartarian guy made it personal and had it coming 😂
@yoredeerleader
@yoredeerleader Жыл бұрын
Does Hancock point out that there are I think 37 Neolithic temples all over Gozo and Malta? Does Hancock mention Clapham Junction? An area near the quarry where all the stones were excavated from. There are pairs of groves cut into the rock like railroad tracks running from the quarry to all locations with megalithic structures. Archaeologists hypothesize that these tracks were used by wheeled carts to transport the rocks. Since the British were the colonizers they named the place where all tracks converged after Clapham Junction in the London west end.
@Oboak
@Oboak 4 ай бұрын
Shells with holes drilled in them probably are some form of money :) known as shell money, often kept on a string
@Nyctophora
@Nyctophora Жыл бұрын
Thank you for holding archaeology to the same standards as conspiracy theorists - it isn't enough to just say "nah nah can't be true" in a professional setting! (I trained in archaeology.)
@heldaneurbanus5135
@heldaneurbanus5135 4 ай бұрын
First of kudos for the balanced analysis and pronunciation! We have a weird tricky language with sounds extinct from modern Arabic that are not used in any Romance languages either. The only real mistakes are: "j" is always a "y"; we have two "g", a "g" (hard g) and a "ġ" ("gee" sound); gh is a distinct more-or-less unvocalised sound (the easiest is to just treat it as a brief pause so Ghar Dalam would be pronounded -ar Dalam). Whenever I see my homeland's history, especially pre-history, mentioned in any sort of media I despair of what nonsense someone will spew to further their own agenda. You did a great job NOT doing that at all. I learned a little too, so thanks! Some small translations people might find useful from a Maltese: Ghar Dalam (the cave) just means darkened cave (cave dwelling was common, and even extant to a small degree in the 20th Century) Ġgantija lit. means giants place Gebel gol-bahar means stones in the sea There is also a very significant site called Hagar Qim, lit. old stones All to say, these names probably date to the Arab period, and many would be from people of the day trying to explain (and therefore mythologise) the ancient past. Think of the way Renaissance Europeans, especially Italians, viewed the Romans. Regarding the "cart ruts" - very similar structures occur on Lampedusa, Pantelleria and I think the other small Italian territories nearby. Those are connected to Roman cisterns but as far as I know (not a historian), the rock channels to capture and direct rainwater are older. Since childhood I have always thought this the most likely reason for the Maltese "cart ruts". Water management in arid countries is certainly worth the effort to carve the upper coralline limestone in some of those locations.
@error4159
@error4159 3 ай бұрын
No one is going to take these aliens and Atlantis guys seriously until they prove something.
@M3t4l-J4w
@M3t4l-J4w 6 ай бұрын
I am coming from a point of constructive criticism. Could you please title your multipart videos as such? I have recently picked up your channel and I am going through your catalogue and multipart videos are not identified until a bit into the video itself. Just a minor inconvenience as a viewer. I enjoy your work and find your analysis interesting. Keep up the good work Aiden^2!
@11jhubbard
@11jhubbard Жыл бұрын
Have you tried to get in touch w Jimmy from bright insight? I would love to hear you to talk about Atlantis theories
@GothPaoki
@GothPaoki Жыл бұрын
Graham has nice stories to tell it's unfortunate though that he tries to claim they're actually real and tries to prove them in a pseudoscientific manner. Just because a story is interesting doesn't mean it's real. Claiming everyone is out to get you doesn't give you legitimacy either, neither is taking a monument and changing it's age at a whim to suit your hypothesis.
@derekmcmanus8615
@derekmcmanus8615 Жыл бұрын
I'm no expert by any means but Graham Hancock seems to be quite widely speculative for the most part
@andrewbarlow8937
@andrewbarlow8937 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if the people who lived in Atlantis thought of themselves as Atlantians or a people from somewhere else who happened to live in Atlantis.
@Grimkeeper17
@Grimkeeper17 Жыл бұрын
Imo it really seems like Plato was talking about South America when referencing Atlantis. As that's the only land mass aside from north America that is larger than Libya and Asia-minor combined and in the relative area he was speaking about.
@Alexandraadftxr7052
@Alexandraadftxr7052 Жыл бұрын
@@Grimkeeper17 No. Not really. Plato had a habbit of making up civilizations, with complex histories in order to teach a lesson which in this case was huberus. There is a part in it, that sais that the antient Athenians were able to repell and defit the inveding Atlantis because they were so pure, had standerd mitlitary training, and no personal belongings. Plato really liked Sparta's political structure, so he based his Antient Athens story on it (In reallity Athens was not around the time when the tale is supposed to take place). The whole point of Atlantis story was that luxery bad, no luxery good. Plato belived that luxery was a bad thing, because it made people less virtues. Plato's tellings the sory of Atlantis, specificly it's history, goas as fallowes. So back in the old day, when the gods take part of the word for themself. Athena got Athens, and Poseidon got the island of Atlantis. Thene Poseidon fall in love with a woman from the island, named Cleito, and they together had five sets of twin boys, with the oldest named Atlas (do not confused with the Atlas who holds the sky, defrent Atlas). So Poseidon started dividing the Island among his demigod sons. He devided it into 10 region, with the central region ruled by Atlas. So they sepretly ruled the Island. And they put rules up to eachother. The most importent rule was that if one of them attacks an another, the other kings, and princes have to defend the one who was attacked.This is there to keep them in line for the future. So thise 10 devin kings produced 10 lineage of kings, but the father this went on, the less devin it got. And the less godness they are, and the more human they become, and so the luxerius life style starts going up to they heads. So they try to concur the Mediteranien. They concer everything exept Athens. Athens wins that battle. Zeus notices the evil coruption of the kings and calls the other Olympians to discuss it, and to tell Poseidon to do something about it. So Poseidon responses with striking the island with a devesteting earthqueck, sinking the entair island in the proces, in one night.
@zoesmith3139
@zoesmith3139 Жыл бұрын
Can you do a video about the discrepancies in the carbon dating timeline of Akrotiri and the archaeologists pottery dating timeline. Aegean archaeologists love their pottery dating methods and felt they were very secure and accurate but after carbon dating from the volcanic site Akrotiri, it proved them wrong by several hundred years
@TheLoreLodge
@TheLoreLodge Жыл бұрын
Honestly I don’t know that I have the background for that one, let me see what our archaeologist thinks
@lonlylucario5324
@lonlylucario5324 5 ай бұрын
Where's our collab with Miniminuteman? I hella wanna see you 2 just wail on graham together
@richard-cf8ce
@richard-cf8ce Жыл бұрын
Pretty good show have to keep an open mind on all of this. One thing we can agree on the real information is being suppress Alterd withheld whatever you want to call
@tjfraire6952
@tjfraire6952 Жыл бұрын
Love ur show, u should debate Handcock. gods bless every1.
@TheLoreLodge
@TheLoreLodge Жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t even want to debate him, I think he’s a visionary. I just think he’s got a few things off. Would love to have the opportunity to speak to him though!
@forkittens
@forkittens Жыл бұрын
@@TheLoreLodge i would chip in if there was a price for this... but unfortunately the price is you having the courage to start a conversation with him. there is no way he'd find you disinteresting with all you know. its just you, timing, and a camera standing in the way of such an interview.
@TheLoreLodge
@TheLoreLodge Жыл бұрын
@@forkittens it’s him responding to our emails standing in the way
@riverraven7359
@riverraven7359 Жыл бұрын
I don't have the archeological lore to argue Maltese specific conditions but I would like to point out that the aboriginal people of Australia were there approximately 60'000 years ago with stone age technology and the Maori of New Zealand had legends of monsters that were later confirmed by biological remains as Giant Moa and other megafauna. So archaic humans with a base level of technology and a capacity for passing on oral traditions is absolutely realistic, megalithic construction is very doable with enough time and manpower so building works pre 6000bc is absolutely realistic in my own opinion. Edit: on the subject of Sirius, if you are willing to entertain completely unproven fringe ideas, a great many cultures in wildly different locations and historical periods all associated Sirius as one of the homes of "the gods who came from the sky" whichever pantheon it happens to be in that culture the God associated with Sirius teaches the locals civilisation, agriculture and astronomical knowledge. If you want to link unexpectedly complex structures with a Sirius alignment that's an interesting concept.
@nicksiebenlist7808
@nicksiebenlist7808 Жыл бұрын
Can you do some research or have you already done some research into the case of Jason Landry, he is a texas boi who got into a car crash, left his clothes on the side of the road and then is still missing to this day.
@diamondelite372
@diamondelite372 11 ай бұрын
Wendigoon has entered chat
@Burkutace27
@Burkutace27 6 ай бұрын
After learning about Dashrath Manjhi, I simply refuse to believe the great ancient monuments couldn't be built without advanced tech
@leandavanniekerk3594
@leandavanniekerk3594 6 ай бұрын
But that said, I applaud you for being objective, for giving due where it is earned and criticizing where it is due. There are not many people who are able to do that 👍
@haileybalmer9722
@haileybalmer9722 8 ай бұрын
A few things about Neanderthals: - Most people who study them professionally believe that they "died out" a lot more recently than archeology as a field is currently acknowledging. There's a few reasons for this. Shaky evidence like these teeth are one reason. 18K years ago is very, very recent for Neanderthals, and they haven't really been dated beyond that, but we're still dating a lot of stuff in context. If they'd been found by somebody famous in the 1920's, we'd probably accept them as proof. Then there are pieces of evidence like that kid they found in Spain who has been extensively tested and determined to be both 27,000 years old, and half Neanderthal. There are more controversial finds on the Iberian peninsula that may be from as recently as 22k years ago. Do I believe those finds are reliable? I don't know. The information on them is pretty gatekept by the old heads of archaeology. - I said "died out" because that's a loaded term that I don't believe is accurate. When anatomically modern humans started coming to Europe from Africa, they came in great numbers into a population that was already dwindling. Neanderthal populations were in free fall as the ice age ended, forests became plains, and ambush hunting couldn't sustain them like it could before. Humans, meeting these people, did what humans do: some got violent, some traded goods and went on their way, and some said "I wonder if I could hump that." Within ten generations, there were between nine and fifteen Homo sapiens sapiens for every Homo sapiens neanderthalensis. It was more that pure Neanderthal specimens were bred out of existence. It's sort of an old Ben/Obi Wan Kenobi situation. Of course we know them! We are them! We're not too clear on when Neanderthal traits disappeared completely, is my point. The short version is: we have a lot of reason to believe, on a professional level, that Neanderthals existed a lot longer than we previously believed, we just don't have what modern science would call a smoking gun. I'm not sure how a half Neanderthal kid dated to 27,000 years ago isn't a smoking gun, but that's academia for you.
@EricJAllain
@EricJAllain Жыл бұрын
Not sure why, but I love when Aidan spills the tea on historian community drama.
@benpearson49
@benpearson49 6 ай бұрын
I'm just glad I found someone who disagrees with Graham, without calling him a Nazi.
@elsiecrosley3204
@elsiecrosley3204 6 ай бұрын
One of the problems with Graham Hancock is that he's the king of "it kind of looks like this to me, so that's what it must be". Add to that him often presenting those theories as observable fact that Big Archeology just doesn't want the public to know and I think it becomes understandable why he's so easy to dismiss. And the only willingness I have seen him show towards being wrong was dependent on him still being able to force that evidence to fit his narrative.
@joecoastie99
@joecoastie99 Жыл бұрын
The teeth could be 18k years old. The ancients practiced ancestor worship. Perhaps they were carried down the line by multiple people. Like a talisman.
@palanthis
@palanthis Жыл бұрын
"People think that people before them were dumb or inferior." Did ya'all study Latin and Greek at school? School, not college. All I know about Malta is that they are famous for their falcons and they make good chocolate covered milk balls.
@JohnTwistFam
@JohnTwistFam 7 ай бұрын
All archeology is conjecture. As you noted, paradigm shifts are hard to accept for established experts in the field. Sadly, the primary reason being ego rather than disputing hard science.
@joshuapatrick682
@joshuapatrick682 Жыл бұрын
So the basis for many fields of science including Biology, Paleontology, cosmology among others is founded on treating theories as laws. We do not question these theories in academia, we work towards trying to prove them correct at all Costs and anyone who isn’t willing to work within that framework is not allowed into Academia.
@adamredden2007
@adamredden2007 Жыл бұрын
This is correct
@Bagginsess
@Bagginsess Жыл бұрын
They are the same type of people that prosecuted Copernicus and Socrates.
@tuomasronnberg5244
@tuomasronnberg5244 Жыл бұрын
Maybe in women's studies that's true 😂 In STEM fields you make your name by discovering something new, not by repeating what is already known.
@Bagginsess
@Bagginsess Жыл бұрын
@@tuomasronnberg5244 stem academics are the worst about it. They stick to their preconceived notions like a commie sticks to "real communism has never been tried before."
@joshuapatrick682
@joshuapatrick682 Жыл бұрын
Hey, you should go to the Maltese catacombs and document your adventures there! Prove em all Wrong!
@angeldroid10
@angeldroid10 Жыл бұрын
Isnt "Mexica" pronounced something more like Meshica?
@fairyencyclopedia
@fairyencyclopedia Жыл бұрын
The Sansuna story reminds me of the Nephilim. To be clear I'm not suggesting that the traditionally accepted history of Malta is wrong. But perhaps a female Nephilim descendent traveled to Malta & myths were later made about her. Even her possible Semitic name origin supports the idea of her being a descendent of the Nephilim.
@ishner
@ishner 13 күн бұрын
None of the carbon reliably dates the side, because none of it was under the rocks so the rocks could have been there a long time before hand. It is not the date that is unreliable; it is the link between the date and the rocks.
@dirtpounder
@dirtpounder 10 ай бұрын
"you can go to space Jeff just let me find Atlantis" what a world we're living in, hey?
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