3:55 did subaruwrxfan just teleport into the video?
@pauldack51295 жыл бұрын
Ahahahahhh! Voice crack
@pascutia6 жыл бұрын
To everyone who is interested in this car, GO TEST DRIVE IT! It may not have VTEC but man is it fun. It’s a very well built car and it feels awesome. Also, the sound does not come through in this video. It sounds great in person. The shifter is one of the best on the market! It’s a great value. For EPS, the steering is very good. I don’t think all this bashing on the car is ok. If you read Car and Driver’s in-depth review, they were very pleased with it. For the price, it’s an amazing car. If you price a GTI to a comparable level, it’ll be much more expensive and it still isn’t as fun to drive. I appreciate Sofyan offering a balanced review, but the engine isn’t as bad as everyone says it is! I really enjoyed driving it!
@EndoftheAge7175 жыл бұрын
Test drove this and love it. It's exactly what you said
@ctrldmnz62423 жыл бұрын
I know im late but i wanna go test drive one because i am interested in owning one , i have driven my friends type r alot so depending on the prices when the new one is released i might get one , but for now Si is on top of my list
@pascutia3 жыл бұрын
@@ctrldmnz6242 I don’t know where you live, but the used market on these is absolutely garbage right now. They cost more than they did new. I’d recommend looking at used VW GTIs(much more reasonably priced), or waiting for the new Si to come out. They’re stupidly overpriced used.
@ctrldmnz62423 жыл бұрын
@@pascutia im in CT yeah way overpriced , im still waiting for now until the new si like you said...hopefully price goes down , im going for a new car around the end of the year hopefully
@area859 Жыл бұрын
Dont the engines on this gens 1.5 turbos have oil dilution issues
@mistamaog7 жыл бұрын
I don't know of anyone who complained about only having a 6MT
@francismartinez60497 жыл бұрын
iMiguelAOG oooppps sorry. That would be me
@mistamaog7 жыл бұрын
Brian Lawrance How could you sin
@813GC5 жыл бұрын
iMiguelAOG the only people who complain are the ones who can’t drive. 🤷🏻♂️
@Jumperman12mac2 жыл бұрын
Neither I do.
@darcygoesfast6 жыл бұрын
3 pedals for the Si. ALWAYS.
@joemonaco35587 жыл бұрын
I had 4 SI, models,build em all,,, have the new one for a few months , its the best one they ever made stock, power and trq, is better, and handles better then any previous models hands down, why people complain is because they dont know the facts , this car has variable cam timming control, with a turbo thats all you needs, get over vtec, its a old design from the late 80s, lol,, for the money this is car is great all around , all i did was hondadata tune and the car make 250 hp and trq, more trq then the 2.4 k could ever dream, every year you yall say the old gen is better,, lol, pull your heads out of your asses, please, honda sets you up cheap so you can tune it the way you want, and with this one all you have to do is a clutch and tune and turn up the boosts and the car will run 13s, and still be around 26 grand, and avg 31 in normal mode,, what the hell else do you people want !!?? vtec?? please ,
@Smooveee7 жыл бұрын
Joe Monaco you do know you're comparing a new technology motor with turbo to the 9th k24 engine lol if you put that same turbo on the 9th gen si It would probably make more power than the 1.5L those 9th gen si you speak of has the engine as a type r but with a bit more displacement it's the same ivtec engine boosted .. that's all it is
@joemonaco35587 жыл бұрын
The K 24 does not have a full vtec head dude. Nor is anything close to the type r moter. It only has vtec on one cam and the cylinder head is shit. 174 lbs of trq is really sorry The 2. 4 block is nice but needs the other head to make HP without a turbo. And when it comes to power to weight ratio the 2.4 is not a good choice . Thats why the R and Si use 2.0 and 1.5 . And handle much better. I like the 9th gen owned and built one.. The 10gen is better out of the box and easier to make power and handles way better .. thats all im really saying
@Smooveee7 жыл бұрын
Joe Monaco the type r engine has the same vtec system as the 9th gen read up on it my friend same crappy head flow , that's why they boost it and I agree with the weight of the k24 but we nonetheless a great engine best two Honda engines are the 8th/9th gens simply parts can be interchangeable and get you power read on it not tryna bash anyone or any car
@3spressoShot6 жыл бұрын
one of those things where you guys sort of ended up arguing the same or very similar points. i enjoyed it lol
@ryanlittleton56156 жыл бұрын
Joe Monaco The K24 actually DOES have a full VTEC head.
@morpheusjr3737 жыл бұрын
It's a commuter car with a bit more pep, no need to have a bigger engine in, not worth the additional cost. I own this car and disagree with everyone of the complaints. Also, I find the sound good, I wouldn't want to daily anything louder. And yeah, the 9th gen has 205hp, but look and the torque curves. Canada gets nav and LED headlights stock
@michaelliu47737 жыл бұрын
Morpheus Jr totally agreed
@TheErik46946 жыл бұрын
I also agree. Nobody seems to talk about how much better it is than the 9th gen.
@TheErik46946 жыл бұрын
And people keep comparing it to a type r. ITS NOT A TYPE R. The type r is $10,000 more. When someone is trying to buy a cheaper car $10,000 is one hell of step up in price.
@3spressoShot6 жыл бұрын
your absolutely right. si has always been a sportier civic not "the" sport civic... I would argue that the si my be funner to mod since its got more things to upgrade.. the type r is a well balanced machine.
@Billybobthor6 жыл бұрын
I’m really liking mine. Same one as in this video.
@Acc0rd797 жыл бұрын
Honda needs to bring out an Accord Type R, as a dad I would definitely consider one and wouldn't worry about paying 40k on a Accord with around 400hp:) I know I can dream but hey, they did bring the Civic Type R to the USA.
@borimatt11275 жыл бұрын
Acc0rd79 the 2.0T accord with MINIMAL mods is easy to reach upwards and over 400 horse , intake , upgraded turbo , intercooler , tune to up the psi on the turbos and downpipe with full exhaust !!! But yes to be 100% honest I would consider getting a accord type r .... I could only imagine what they would do because if their competitor is the focus st and rs then why didn’t the 10th gen si come with a 2.0t they could have de tuned the si just like the st and keep the front wheel drive and I def could’ve seen a bigger engine for the rs and maybe all wheeel drive as well on the type r but I know Honda is good on gas and their just getting into power ..... from the factory lol don’t get me wrong working on building a k24 swap Rn hatch but there’s always options out there don’t forget that!
@craftycraff79384 жыл бұрын
Acc0rd79 too much power for front wheels once you go over 300hp.
@HiMyNameIsJonathan4 жыл бұрын
I like how the car is quiet. It sounds great even without an intake
@juancristales83227 жыл бұрын
The Si in Canada comes with the same LED head lights as the type R and navigation. All standard. I don't know why the American version does not. Also we have the option of leather seats.
@francismartinez60497 жыл бұрын
Juan Cristales Trump said no LEDs and Leather.
@shamelessnjc7 жыл бұрын
Juan Cristales I think it's because of the price difference. The Si in Canada is based on the Touring trim, here in the states it's based on the EX-T trim. Touring trim Civics here cost close to $30 grand. It would've made the Si close to as expensive as the Type-R here. Honda wanted to hit a price point so we don't get the nice stuff in the US.
@juancristales83227 жыл бұрын
Brian Lawrance LOL that's hilarious
@juancristales83227 жыл бұрын
Shane Shelton I see. Thanks for the response
@MrCarGuy7 жыл бұрын
Juan Cristales Who cares? You buy it for the mechanicals anyway. You Canadians are just getting ripped off because they're probably making $5k more on you just on lights, nav, and partial leather seats. Better to just buy the LEDs and switch them in.
@asifalimirza6 жыл бұрын
I have been a Toyota guy for the last 20 years, and the 2018 Civic Si is the first Honda I have ever owned, so this not coming from a "Honda Fan Boy". I really put in a lot of research on this car, and out of the almost hundreds of reviews on this car, this review was way, way off from all the other reviewers. Sure, there were complaints about the Infotainment system, lack of volume button, and the faux vents on the front and back, but almost no complaints about power, acceleration etc. I have owned this car one month now, and 0 to 60 in 6.4 seconds is pretty awesome for a car with such a small engine! I have done two trips between the Northern California Bay area and SoCal, and if anyone has ever driven on hwy 152 and the Grapevine on hwy 5, you know that if you can do 90 mph plus on those steep inclines with little effort...with temps around 104 degrees F, you have a car with good power. I'm not saying it's the fastest car on the road, but it easily keeps up with cars with engines twice its size and power. I mean, you made it sound like this car has to strain to go fast...that's not my experience owning this car. Maybe you should stop trying to compare it with those brainless Dodge Chargers that can barely handle a slight curve OK, so what I dislike about this car: Infotainment center Lack of buttons for radio, volume and AC/heater fan controls Android Auto disconnects randomly Metal shifter ball (gets hot, and I mean hot on a hot day) Shifter makes a notchy sound when shifting into second gear
@timmybridges56416 жыл бұрын
Thx for your feedback. You are definitely one of my favorite critics. I have had my Si since 12/2017. My ONLY potential gripe is straightline power. This car is not a drag racer, but consider I have personally witnessed over 40 mpg, but mostly I get around 34 mpg no matter how I drive. Pit this car against an 88 Gt Mustang and this car will win. This tiny 1.5T is a mighty little engine. I will be upgrading my clutch and exhaust soon to take more advantage of what is there.
@dlg54857 жыл бұрын
I still hate the styling of this car. It looks like a 12 year old sketched it. Most grown ups probably won't find this design appealing.
@alliejr7 жыл бұрын
The engine is "bad", a "disappointment"? Compared to what? How can you evaluate the engine compared to a theorhetic engine you *wished* they'd developed and included. Is the engine better than competing Focus ST? Fiesta ST? Golf or GTI? Elantra? Those would be valid comparisons and against those, the sound and performance of this new Honda motor is at or above the best of the rest. Clearly you had a "dream" for an Si and because Honda didn't build *your* dream car, you downgrade it. Just evalulate the car they built, not the car you wish for (which doesn't actually exist).
@Fatmouse256 жыл бұрын
For a company with slogan "The Power of Dreams" I'd say the dream was shattered. I actually got invited to the Si launch and my heart was elated until the slide with 1.5 liter powertrain hit, and it was then my hands couldn't even catch how fast my heart sank, crushed. What sound? I saw two of those drag race at my local track and they sounded like hybrids against the rest. Its like they made a great civic, a great car, but forgot about the Si and just slapped the badge on.
@vtothet126 жыл бұрын
the engine is bad because its small and not making as much power as its competitors. The si cannot compete with the focus st or gti anymore, it is far less powerful. the 1.5t honda motor is above the best of the rest? lmao the SI moved down a weight class and thats what everyone is disappointed about
@joji39916 жыл бұрын
allierogers si winning the gti and st LOL wtf are you on?regarding the sound this car makes,WHAT FUCKING SOUND?regarding the performance this car makes,WHAT FUCKING PERFORMANCE???what si are you talking about that is at or above the rest?i dont see one,i just see a gti or st replacement for fanboys/people that dont want a better car or dont trust VW/ford cars
@joji39916 жыл бұрын
allierogers that comment sounded agressive/hatefull when i read it back to my self,read it in a comical/sarcastic way
@osamabindrinkin40s6 жыл бұрын
I really liked the SI. Its got lots of interior room and drives really nice! The 10th gen is faster than any other Civic SI's
@EKFiPod7 жыл бұрын
that rev hang doe
@krazykookmany6 жыл бұрын
The engine is a disappointment? I’m sorry but consumers looking to spend 24k on a Civic just aren’t looking for the noise of the k24 anymore. This car is meant for people who want a daily but also want to have fun once in a while and enthusiasts are going to go for the Type R anyway. The 10th gen produces the same amount of power without having to get all the way to 7500 rpm to do it and with 1L less displacement for fuel efficiency. Every Honda competitor is switching their lineup to I4 turbo engines to get power and fuel efficiency and Honda is just going with the times. If you want a k24, buy a 9th gen. If you want a modern car with modern features and a modern engine, buy the 10th gen.
@camperpro4825 жыл бұрын
lol you krazy buyers just dont get it. They abandoned what they stood for (100 Hp/Litre) Its also already proven. They only decided to go turbo to satisfy you multitasking environmentalist nerds that demands effiecient every godman second. They changed the proven design/setup then call it "innovative" lol. The problem with Honda is peer pressure (sheep syndrome). Theyre just copying everyone because "everyone is doing it". The power of dreams is dead (just like the consumer's brains).
@sahbiot7 жыл бұрын
at 3:55 I thought VTEC kicked in, but its was only your voice.
@ffampire7 жыл бұрын
sahbiot When the Vtec kicks in yo, I mean no with this Si.
@Raul93si6 жыл бұрын
HAHAHA!! Your funny
@motorcitymanman77115 жыл бұрын
You Need to drive a 9th gen again, it does NOT pull as hard as the 10th gen 1.5
@inthemoment19595 жыл бұрын
Wow! I could not disagree more with your analysis of the new SI. The old version was very much a niche vehicle and the 2017 forward is better in virtually every arena. At handles much better, has much more usable Midrange torque, is more comfortable, more spacious, gets better gas mileage and is much more refined and poised. If you're 16 years old and want a little naturally aspirated go-kart that only performs marginally well when you're gunning it, that's fine. I don't. The new SI handles better than most near luxury sports sedans costing twice as much and I have owned BMWs. Just my two cents. Thanks for the video!
@rkvang4797 жыл бұрын
whats an Si without vtec?!
@claudio_wrx7 жыл бұрын
Ricky Vang 85-91 Si had no VTEC
@guido80007 жыл бұрын
throw a huge turbo on there and it will feel kinda like vtec when that shit finally spools up. is the exhaust manifold integrated??
@kievmiddeton26567 жыл бұрын
DesertSilverMetallicDC5 but they were multi-ported electronic fuel injected, hence making them "sports injected" aka "SI". Once that became standard VTEC became the exclusive Si trim.
@jvswwevo7 жыл бұрын
An SI without vtec is just a civic.
@rkvang4797 жыл бұрын
guido8000 when ur driving an si but u dont feel vtec kicking in at 6.5-7k...this is just a more power ex sport :/
@LukeO-12347 жыл бұрын
I would buy this. Daily driver that's comfortable decent fun not too much power but enough to have a little bit of fun.
@alexbaker72435 жыл бұрын
I gotta say, you are completely wrong about this car. It's the fastest Si ever built, and the most fun to drive. It's stomping all the competition in National Autocross events. It is extremely tuneable and stomps previous gen Si's that have been turbo'd / supercharged with only some bolt ons and a tune. Your bias is showing, big time.
@serenaalauren5 жыл бұрын
Alex Baker the 2015 is the fastest si man do some research
@motorcitymanman77115 жыл бұрын
I'd rather have the power low and mid range than top end.....how much time do you spend at 130mph??? You wont be driving long if you do!!! VTech is way over rated!!!! 1.5 T is a MUCH better combo of performance AND mpg, I see 40mpg with my 18 SI. Amazed that this driver says the 1.5 is a dissapointment!
@kencai68034 жыл бұрын
You might not know they put vtec on the same engine for the Accord, this 1.5T turbo engine with vtec do appear on Accord but not Civic, Which I don't like. As you said vtec might overrated, but this is Honda, is all about the vtec.
@Fadic47 жыл бұрын
It's not a bad car, it's the cheapest car you can get with adaptive dampers. I just hope that 1.5 holds up.
@francismartinez60497 жыл бұрын
Fadic 4 only time will tell....Honda still can't get their 8, 9 and 10 speed transmissions right
@Fadic47 жыл бұрын
Brian Lawrance they're getting rid of the zf 9 speed for the Honda 10 speed. The 10 speed just came out and it's been getting good reviews. I would never get a dct, from any company.
@gillesthibault4297 жыл бұрын
Brian Lawrance What they need to get rid of is the troublesome ZF 9-speed! It's been nothing but trouble for FCA, why did Honda put it in their vehicles?
@Fadic47 жыл бұрын
Gilles Thibault they had a six speed and didn't want to introduce their 10 speed because they were still working on it. They didn't want to get behind the competitors in mpg
@dlg54857 жыл бұрын
Honda reliability would be the least of my concerns. The shitty performance tho....
@sergeybebenin7 жыл бұрын
Who needs a navigation with Android Auto / Car Play? If anything, I DON'T want factory Navi because they always suck
@accordwhip34677 жыл бұрын
Exactly my opinion. If I've got Android Auto, I don't care that I don't have navigation.
@bboy1hunnid3297 жыл бұрын
Sergey Bebenin meh
@alexl97587 жыл бұрын
Bboy 1hunnid Get your edgy ass out of here kid.
@bboy1hunnid3297 жыл бұрын
Alex Lin lol your not aloud to call me a kid when your profile pic is curby fuck outta here
@alexl97587 жыл бұрын
Bboy 1hunnid I can call you a kid because you type and act like a fucking immature child.
@christianreczek14697 жыл бұрын
Short answer:yes
@jfazzuoli38137 жыл бұрын
I understand there is a mourning period for the death of high reving, low torque Honda engines of yore but can we just end it now please and get on with life. As a life long Honda fan boy I look forward to more small displacement turbo engines with torque. Honda is going in the right direction. You get great performance and 40mpg. Nothing to complain about except a too quiet exhaust. Also, people like to justify the Civic Sport as somehow a detuned Si. It is not. The often overlooked bits the Si offers for only a little more money is a great value. Better internals (pistons, rings, sodium filled valves) larger turbo, LSD, adjustable dampers, Type R suspension bits, nicer seats, better shifting transmission, larger stabilizer bars, lower suspension, bigger brakes......as far as 9th gen Civic Si, I owned a 2015. This chassis is light years ahead of the of the 9th gen platform. This alone is enough to abandon the 9th gen for a 10th. As great as the K24 is, the new 1.5T is progress.
@Billybobthor6 жыл бұрын
J Fazzuoli totally agree! Nicely put.
@joemonaco35586 жыл бұрын
yuo
@joemonaco35586 жыл бұрын
yup
@vangxiong96436 жыл бұрын
J Fazzuoli Agree, I own a 2014 si, and just bought my wife a 2018 si... wow does the new si make my si slow. Bcuz as a daily driver u will b driving in the low rpm.. not above 5. And the turbo kicks in nicely at 2.5 rpm. I mean in order to drove slow u literally need to shift gears at 1.8rpm, any higher and the turbo kicks in.. freakin love the new si... oh yea.. fkin 40mpg!!!
@devn38136 жыл бұрын
J Fazzuoli I’ve always loved Honda and the SI and I love the new si but this tiny high boost engine and the fake vents and funny looking parts of the car turns me away. What turns me away is the fact that the elantra sport is almost more of an SI than the 10th gen SI is now. I almost bought the new SI but I think I might go with the Elantra. I still can’t decide and I’m not getting a used car so I’m going to have to accept what they offer now
@mrorionfan15 жыл бұрын
Didn't know more people were going towards buying 4-door Civics! I still love the 2-doors even though the doors are heavier and more cumbersome.
@Tonio_onair5 жыл бұрын
I love my civic si coupe. Looks awesome with the wing and it looks like the back is more taller than front and it makes it look like a bullet tho
@gregblack85505 жыл бұрын
Most reviews are saying it’s now a better car and I agree.Get over the Vtec already.
@PayDro0077 жыл бұрын
Keep...Moving...Forward...
@kylenewberry85987 жыл бұрын
I think most people say its actually the best si ever made.
@SilverScarletSpider2 жыл бұрын
At $23,000 The 2017 Honda Civic Si doesn’t take “Sport Injected” to mean “fun injected” like they did with VTEC in the 5th-9th gen; Si now means more performance with Turbocharged Engine Torque ala Volkswagon Jetta GLi.
@KAnE3o17 жыл бұрын
Great follow up review. The best 10th gen Si review so far from you.
@philpin92307 жыл бұрын
Solution: Hondata
@Arctice367 жыл бұрын
Phil Pin it will give the engine peak types of torque that only last a couple hundred rpm the the turbo dies and torque falls
@505enthusiast46 жыл бұрын
Ktuner v20 adds ovee 50 lbs torque right up to redline
@Arctice366 жыл бұрын
PeePee2000 it doesn't matter about boost curve, a lot of turbo engines when getting peak power torque starts to fall, like BMWs turbo 6 it makes peak torque at 1350 to 5200 and at 5500 peak power comes in and torque falls, I've seen a e46 m3 turbo making boost by gear and rpm making its max torque from 4K to redline and peak power at redline
@subvet36686 жыл бұрын
It should come from the factory with a better tune so people don't have to resort to Hondata to get the power at risk of their warranty.
@NA-nc5dg3 жыл бұрын
@@subvet3668 state emissions might have something to say about that. Instead be happy honda over-engineered so Hondata can hook you up.
@bryanwelch62097 жыл бұрын
8th gen best Si. I loved my fg2.
@deej6287 жыл бұрын
12:08 is the best part! Loved you getting worked up over the ADM. I agree it's effing ridiculous ppl pay that and dealerships charge it! Type R at MSRP ftw!
@darryla65277 жыл бұрын
vtec high rev engine was a main reason to consider the civic Si
@gaivoron7 жыл бұрын
Honda needed to keep their reliable 2.4l.
@BmoreIrish6 жыл бұрын
The motor is a beast when reflashed.
@BmoreIrish6 жыл бұрын
The 1.5T I mean
@domywork.63636 жыл бұрын
Vanneker I'm sure a all motor would have been the best for thr si honda can make 2 20 hp on the motor.wacky ass 1.5
@yulhunsung68666 жыл бұрын
if honda kept Si with high revving N/A v-tec engine and type r with v-tec + turbo i am pretty sure every one will understand, acknowledge and thank the differences and would love to buy Si and type-r for different reasons and prices...
@osamabindrinkin40s6 жыл бұрын
I like this car and I thought drove really good! Not sure what everyone is complaining about. You can always put your own exhaust for more noise!
@Michael06977 жыл бұрын
This is the power the regular Civic should have.
@TonyKimtheamusementparkfan Жыл бұрын
The 9th gen Honda Civic SI, in my opinion, was the best Civic SI ever made with that K24 VTEC 4-cylinder, and it had so much character to it. VTEC is what made the SI so fun to drive and experience, and that K24 motor, which is the same one in an Acura TSX, just sounded glorious.
@jediknight35046 жыл бұрын
I disagree folks ive had my 17 about 3 weeks. I enjoy it so much. It’s fast and I love having a Manuel transmission again. I think the only thing I dislike is the freckin radio. Lol
@L_G_Brandon7 жыл бұрын
Still don't know why people are complaining about this car it is faster than the last one there is even a video on KZfaq were the regular 1.5t civic its beating an SI supposedly both stock
@lastpally5 жыл бұрын
Gtaoutsider hell the regular civic was also a CVT 😂😂
@hector30417 жыл бұрын
Honda engines have no low end torque...now they do...now people complain honda does not have high end peak power at 19000rpm
@pj87617 жыл бұрын
Just another example of how people will complain about something no matter what.
@osamabindrinkin40s6 жыл бұрын
I liked the car when I test drove it. I thinking about buying one from a car broker and not a dealership.
@victortroska1756 жыл бұрын
Nobody who owned an SI complained about the torque. Only dipshits who never wanted a Honda did. The trade off with high revs is lower torque, nobody cared.
@b_nast195 жыл бұрын
I don't mind the engine that much. The reason I don't like it over a 9th gen is bc of the styling. It's close, but they need to chill w the fake vents around the whole car.
@jackdaniels29057 жыл бұрын
Wow you talk and drive at the same time so well.
@errorerror31337 жыл бұрын
I hope one day you can review my 1990 civic
@kt817767 жыл бұрын
Roland Bat damn that was a good year. The 90 accord was amazing still remember sitting in my dad 81 accord watching the 90 and thinking damnnn what a car, same with ls400's.
@francismartinez60497 жыл бұрын
Roland Bat ooooo does it have a blue or red interior??
@Xx1SailorScoutxX7 жыл бұрын
What do you think of Honda killing off their V6 offerings?
@97I30T7 жыл бұрын
Elton Thomas Downsizing and forced induction engines are the way of the future. As emissions regulations get stricter manufacturers will keep downsizing to comply with them. Toyota and Nissan will be soon to follow, I'm sure of it. Almost every major car company is getting rid of V6s in their cars and lower trim SUVs. Honda is doing the right thing.
@f1812347 жыл бұрын
Elton Thomas turbo 4 cylinders are the future so much more pros than cons better fuel economy, more power etc I can't go on and on.
@francismartinez60497 жыл бұрын
Dolphins101 what's vag? You mean VAG COM like for the German cars ?
@ormand30007 жыл бұрын
Brian Lawrance I mean vagina.
@aidananchaya7 жыл бұрын
I don't like it. They should have kept the V6 and the coupe in the Accord lineup
@impulsivedesigns7 жыл бұрын
The SI should have come with the ILX motor. Would have been a home run.
@saifoh7 жыл бұрын
They should've put a k20 and slamed a turbo on it so it could compete with the ST. The 8th gen si was great just because of the smooth and powerful K20
@yongutsa6 жыл бұрын
Honda should have provided Si Hatchback!, imho ...
@nikko19843 жыл бұрын
The hatchback sold in the european market is weird, full of plastics on bumpers. The sedan is much more elegant.
@southbayla31377 жыл бұрын
Just wait another 150k miles till the engine gets very very very very loud.
@BryanW9167 жыл бұрын
I 100% agree with you! The engine is pretty much the only thing that was disappointing. It's too quiet and wish it had the vtec changeover. I loved my 8th gen SI because of the sky high redline and the vtec. As always, love your reviews.
@boblast85062 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry I can not get behind the hate for the 10th gen+ si. For one, it doesn’t need navigation with Apple CarPlay. I have gone out of state, and multiple hours away and CarPlay works just as good as GPS. Everyone complains about VTEC. But it has vtec. It’s not on the exhaust side (which is the most prominent aspect) but it’s still there. No other generation si comes even close to the L15B7. The k20 and k24a are phenomenal engines. But with full bolt ons you’ll find it hard to make 250 WHP. This makes it with just a tune! Full bolt Ons and a tune on there make close to 300 Wheel. Out of a 1.5L. You get heated seats, premium audio, active dampeners, a LSD, dual climate control, and adaptive cruise control and Lane keeping assist on 2020+ models. I think although the engine is a low displacement, and doesn’t have the roaring VTEC aspects of the K20. It is still a phenomenal platform and works better than any other si with just a few modifications. I recommend watching MaPerformance videos on KZfaq to fully grasp this car. They have a shop car making 650. If you need bigger power and VTEC there is always the K20C1 in the type R.
@Jtdubbzz Жыл бұрын
Yeah man, it’s a great car.
@kidboise53807 жыл бұрын
The funny thing is that if you really want to hear this particular L15 engine howl, you can do so in a used Fit, which has next to no sound deadening a non-turbo, dumbed-down version of the motor. Also I like how the upcoming Accord takes the type r's motor and detunes it (and it's still available in a 6mt!!!). IMO the SI should've done the same. Would have loved to see a good old K20 with a turbo, even if they detuned it further to something like 225 hp. I just really like the characteristics of the K engine over the L. I'm even tempted by the base Civic LX with a manual, just so I could get a new civic with a K-series motor. Sorry for the word-vomit comment :P
@JoseRivera-li8tr7 жыл бұрын
This motor has nothing in common with the fit btw. Only bore size. It's no k24 but it sure can embarrass one with just a tune. A shame Honda tuned it so conservatively
@puns017 жыл бұрын
the k20 with a turbo? You mean what's in the Type R?
@2ZH7 жыл бұрын
So it's fun, get hondata and have more fun lol. I really want to get this car as a coupe . I own a 97 CL 3.0 so I think it would be nice. Thoughts?
@pete_432993 жыл бұрын
Did you end up getting one?
@baldheadlogic7 жыл бұрын
Hey Sofyan...I gotta give you mad props for being real talk in this review.
@nowayoutstp47 жыл бұрын
Impressive video reiteration! Dang you know a lot about cars. Period, and it shows.
@alezandra977 жыл бұрын
Hey, greetings from New Jersey!
@gaivoron7 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for that all new s2000 with a 1.5l turbo.
@jbowen8677 жыл бұрын
Nsx with Dat 1.5 turbo
@SavagexRaccoon6 жыл бұрын
Vanneker with 2 electric motors powering the rear wheels :^)
@Fatmouse256 жыл бұрын
don't forget the vtec delete.
@jamielannoo42506 жыл бұрын
That would be a S1500
@willbermudez23866 жыл бұрын
And eco mod for enthusiast
@Beach5and7 жыл бұрын
In Canada, an Si is $33k and an Elantra Sport is $24k.
@stuna101a6 жыл бұрын
I had a 2009 Civic SI with a full exhaust (headers, no cats, open muffler) Hondata and a CAI. It was awesome, a total screamer over 9K rpm and felt like it had a sport bike engine under the hood. it was so much fun. I raced my new stock 2010 GTI with my 2009 Civic SI and the Civic annihilated the GTI, I miss that Civic. After that Honda upped the displacement along with the torque but lowered the redline and the light flyweightness of the engine revs....
@natecarvideos88985 жыл бұрын
It should have at least 250hp
@MrRdoc947 жыл бұрын
I have a 2017 Touring in the White Pearl color, was gonna get this but once I saw the back I just couldn't do it, glad I went with the Touring such a brilliant car.
@BmoreIrish6 жыл бұрын
Lease deals on Si’s now between $179-199/mo. It’s a steal at that rate. Making me rethink my intended hatch sport 6spd purchase.
@LearnAboutFlow6 жыл бұрын
Oh, it's even funnier! You can lease a Honda Fit for only slightly less. HMMMMM, now which one would be the better deal? In fact, around here the Sport Civic is only $20/month cheaper than the Si. Why would you not lease an Si?
@TomesEsq7 жыл бұрын
Love your vids but please don't start with clickbait titles man.
@Cooldog9047 жыл бұрын
Another civic review yay!
@kenny61863 жыл бұрын
Disregarding the age, I still prefer the 8 gen rather than 9th and 10th gens
@justindavis59837 жыл бұрын
The previous generation Si had almost no power right off the line, it is rediculous. I think that's why they added the turbo, to distribute the power more evenly. They didn't add Vtec to the Si as another reason for buyers to step up to the Type R. And I'm so glad Honda didn't add any stickers to it. It's like a sticker on a minivan that says "Power sliding doors" fancily.
@TOMMYBOY69696 жыл бұрын
Honda should put the option Si onto the Hatchback, they will sell much more Si in the hatch than the coupe !
@Techkid7206 жыл бұрын
TOMMYBOY6969 si sedan?
@TwisteeTheDefiant16 жыл бұрын
I've been bitching about this ever since I heard it was a coupe and sedan only AGAIN I can't even consider this one a real si the damn engine doesn't even sound like it's doing anything the last gen may have had the same revs but it sounded so badass revving up to 7.2k rpm while this model sounds like a damn fit without vtec. The type R started off as a hatchback and only had one model that was a sedan (FD2 which shall not be mentioned again and will stay in its forgotten hole) while the si started as a hatchback but Honda decided nah no more si hatchback after the ep3 let's add a sedan with the coupe instead. 😠
@smuve7406 жыл бұрын
YES!!!!
@yippie68627 жыл бұрын
Did Honda Kill The 2017 Civic Si? I don't know because you didn't answer the question to the title of your own video.
@505enthusiast46 жыл бұрын
Yippie we are suppose to decide
@yippie68626 жыл бұрын
Maybe so, but I'm not a car reviewer or expert. He is. How many of us have even driven it? He has.
@505enthusiast46 жыл бұрын
Yippie you have to get out there and test drive one if it interest you. Ive only test driven the focus st and I loved the power and the way it handles. I also want to drive a gti.
@kylerbrooks75317 жыл бұрын
That car looks dope
@Agent77X7 жыл бұрын
Get a duel cat back exhaust! Makes it so loud, that people on the street cover their ears and if police come around your car, you get a ticket for too much noise and they make you fix it! So just don't get caught!
@chrisgnay49737 жыл бұрын
Civic Si or Civic type R . . . Which is better at it's price.
@R3putaytion137 жыл бұрын
Considering dealers are upcharging Type R's 10 grand while keeping regular price for SI's, id say the Si
@YoungSperm7 жыл бұрын
Civic are just not worth it lol look at it
@M_7737 жыл бұрын
Kellan Larson lol in Canada its illegal to do markups so you can get a type r normal price... if you wanna wait till the end of 2018 for delivery
@francismartinez60497 жыл бұрын
Chris Gnay Elantra Sport. Much more reliable
@M_7737 жыл бұрын
Brian Lawrance how? don't get all mad at me just asking
@francismartinez60497 жыл бұрын
I'd take an 8th gen over this any day of the week.
@Eeaotc027 жыл бұрын
Screw those. Those Civic are ugly. 9th gen all the way!
@b.f.3787 жыл бұрын
8th gen Civics were the best looking ones
@victortroska1756 жыл бұрын
+Double JJ You're kidding, right? I have a 9th gen only because I missed the 8th.
@616civicmt87 жыл бұрын
I need to get into my local Honda dealer and test drive one, at first I thought it would be disappointing but Im starting to like it. Wish it had Vtec, but I love my LX 6-speed!
@EvendimataE7 жыл бұрын
i want an auto so my wife can use it too...we live in an apt and we dont want needing to switch our cars parking spot if we want to go out...and i want it to be my daughters practice car 10 yrs from now...and make a hatchback version for more cargo space......i have a feeling they made the si not so expensive just to move the sedan and coupe versions of civic
@JimmytheGenius7 жыл бұрын
These civics are getting bigger and bigger, might as well be a cadillac.
@alansmilealot7 жыл бұрын
Sergio Aguirre how do you know that he hasn't been saying this about the 8th and 9th as well. He has a crx in his pic so he has the right to say so.
@aybehcee7 жыл бұрын
JimmytheGenius I test drove a 2017... it feels like a little toy... Didn't like it at all
@JimmytheGenius7 жыл бұрын
Sergio Aguirre not only is it a boat, it's also the slowest si since 16 years ago.
@JimmytheGenius7 жыл бұрын
Sergio Aguirre more like 15's stock, 180whp 170tq.
@JimmytheGenius7 жыл бұрын
Sergio Aguirre low 14's, are we talking with slicks now?
@MT-vi6vb6 жыл бұрын
Sofyan, how does this compare to the Toyota 86?
@deadlift04256 жыл бұрын
Love my Si. Plenty fast for everyday driving and the handling is amazing.
@techfusionaz24967 жыл бұрын
If Honda made the SI it's own niche vs all other civics by getting rid of the turbo COMPLETELY and only having VTEC, it would be a truly amazing sports car.
@stevenjames11387 жыл бұрын
I realize I'm in the minority here, but I actually don't like cars that make a lot of noise. Don't get me wrong. I like fast cars. And I like Honda. (I owned a Honda CRX Si back in the day.) But I'd be happy with a silent electric car. For me, the worst are noisy cars that still don't go fast. Whereas the best are cars that go fast while making little if any noise. To me, loud cars belong at a race track. Yeah. Your car can go fast, but does that mean that the entire neighborhood has to know? Loud cars to me are kind of like those weightlifters at the gym that brag a lot and grunt a lot while lifting. Yeah. You're strong. Great. But do you have to make unnecessary noise simply to draw attention to yourself? Loud cars are not people, of course, but I still feel like their owners are somewhat similarly overcompensating. I like a car that "walks softly but carries a big stick". Yet that's just my opinion, and I know I'm in the minority.
@legendosito7 жыл бұрын
Steven James DeBlasi you're not alone my friend :)
@VaunShiz7 жыл бұрын
You spend extra money on a sport car and you want to pull up sounding like a Prius ? I guess if you like the sleeper effect
@whitenacho78687 жыл бұрын
Steven James DeBlasi then Tesla is the car for you. If youre rich
@andreaescano96416 жыл бұрын
Steven James DeBlasi i see where you coming from man. my brother is the same way. he likes silent cars. but hey alot peeps like me want some noise im not saying a sound that will blast somebodys ear but a litte more sound than the usual. thats why i have cat back exhaust on my car. its my prefference thou. but im not hating what your trying to say. peeps just have different tase you know.
@DaveOrtiz6 жыл бұрын
Steven James DeBlasi, I drive this daily and I love the AFEPower exhaust I upgraded to. It’s the perfect amount of the power, performance, and uppgradability.$2000 in aftermarket upgrades and you have a near 300hp rocket.
@rubenbadass7 жыл бұрын
Hondata to the rescue
@swanblake7 жыл бұрын
Love it when you talk about Type R markup by dealers. Agree 100%
@kckuc3107 жыл бұрын
This by far is better then the previous SI in every way.
@ericleeSupSayK7 жыл бұрын
No Honda is worth markups.
@GenericAF1235 жыл бұрын
ericleeSupSayK the reason why there’s a markup is because people are will to pay more. The fact you think no Honda is worth the markup is opinion and not based on reality.
@rexe31397 жыл бұрын
A civic si should be naturally aspirated with vtec
@donovanwallace14496 жыл бұрын
Someone needs to make a fake bumper cutout delete kit for these new Hondas.......I can't deal with so many black patches.
@ravenstylea27 жыл бұрын
110% agree with this review. Great job and feel the same about the whole package. The motor especially. 😭
@SGTRacing7 жыл бұрын
IMO YES!! I 💙 my 8th Gen!!
@exyiaevox7 жыл бұрын
The problem is that the best strengths of the 2017 Si are strengths of the 10th gen Civic, not the Si. The Si is the worst trim of the best Civic yet. Best interior. Best chassis. Best refinement. .....but no HondaSensing, less features than Touring trim, cheap cloth fabric interior trims. The "Sport" button with adaptive dampers are just a gimmick as 90% of owners would just end up using Sport mode all the time. I could live without VTEC if there was more raw power to enjoy, but they just got lazy and said "we added more torque, that's all you complained about". VTEC was what made the meager 200hp more exciting than it was on paper. All they did was take the great 10th gen Civic and applied a basic checklist from the previous Si instead of actually pushing the bar. And wanting to not steal light from the TypeR is stupid. The WRX is the best example of having strong, non-neutered examples of both would do nothing but build excitement for the brand. Sigh Honda........
@victortroska1756 жыл бұрын
Honda is retarded. I am done with them. Reliability is now amyth and they have accountants running things now not driving enthusiasts or passionate engineers.
@krismenon80717 жыл бұрын
Good review man. I test drove a new SI. I own an 8th gen SI sedan. I wasn't impressed by how the new one drove. It felt pretty similar to the 8th at lower speed. I'm not in any rush to trade in for the new one. The engine is a let down for sure. It's dull. I'm glad Honda added more sound deadening to the car but the motor is isolated from the driver when compared to the K series motors.
@dylanrichards75092 жыл бұрын
2017 civic Si owner here love everything about it except how the top end dies out Easy fix with k tunner and downpipe but still I have a Prl intake and invidia Gemini exhaust and pretty happy with it
@jev28677 жыл бұрын
For the money the Si is really hard to beat. And if they give deals because of slow sales, it'll even be more of a bargain. Vtec is old, not economical and the midrange is whats widely used more so than the topend anyway. Definitely quicker than my 9th gen but lacking in sound which gives you somewhat false sense of speed (slow.) I just wish it was available in hatchback. The sport hatchback looks more sportier than the Si, odd.
@Billybobthor6 жыл бұрын
I love my new Si. Very enjoyable to drive and not so fast that I’ll get pulled over every day.
@krayzie2817 жыл бұрын
Sounds weak af
@austinmuldoon93694 жыл бұрын
This video proves that sometimes you need to just see for yourself. I love my 2020 Si coupe and that’s coming from a K20 RSX.
@ericdolby16223 жыл бұрын
How is it on the highway. Hi rpms
@2006gtobob6 жыл бұрын
That 1.5 totally turned me off when I took it for a test drive last July. No vtec yo, no top end, loud, rough, and a bit of lag, and I didn't particularly care for the clutch pick up points. The rest of the car was fairly good, missing a few options like LED headlights and built in nav, but it has a good price. Sadly, that engine was a turn off.
@subvet36685 жыл бұрын
Robert D. Exactly. This car is literally only a tenth of a second quicker than the basic turbo civic. I really wanted to like this car but it just has so many shortcomings.
@mugenkb27 жыл бұрын
You're not suppose to rest your hand on the shifter for manual cars FYI.
@TheRichardF107 жыл бұрын
Fuck it, its not his. XD
@YoungSperm7 жыл бұрын
Why the hell not
@aoucelloutus35737 жыл бұрын
lol true that
@brucec437 жыл бұрын
synchronizer wear.
@jeremyventurino94817 жыл бұрын
As long as you aren't applying pressure in any direction it's perfectly fine.
@kyleminissale33187 жыл бұрын
that 1.5T kills the car for me
@victortroska1756 жыл бұрын
+Sergio Aguirre Lame, boring shit. It's not just the speed.
@terrancemoore4967 жыл бұрын
I think critics overall are just a bit too harsh on the Si. I knew when they introduced the Civic R. The Si obviously will became the second banana. I think to my understanding is Honda should increase the power, keep the V-tech, and put dam knobs in the info tainment center.
@danielc14177 жыл бұрын
Honda has lost their way. No more V6 Accord Coupe? Bye.
@MrHav1k7 жыл бұрын
They should have put the DCT in this like they'd planned. Then it'd be worth considering.
@claudio_wrx7 жыл бұрын
TheHvk or you can man up and learn to drive a stick
@redlineraphael7 жыл бұрын
No
@HuxleyTheProf7 жыл бұрын
DesertSilverMetallicDC5 Dual clutch is just better tech, lest be honest. I have an si and I love standard transmission but dct 8 speed would make it quite a bit faster
@VaunShiz7 жыл бұрын
ceejay1992 si aren't made for 0-60 bragging rights , literally