Gonna be honest, I really felt for those droids. Hell, the tank commander and crew looked like they were downright having fun! Sad they all died:(

I want more CIS holdouts. It only makes sense considering how large the CIS army was actually left by the time of Order 66.

It wasn't just Cody and crosshair. That was Cody's team. He had worked with them for years. Cody was with Obi Wan, one of the best Jedi generals. Cody's battalion and team was one ofthe best clone armies of the republic. Up there with the 501st. That entire fight scene was excellent, you could feel the competence from all the rank-and-file soldiers. Also the separatists were based around the least populated and industrialized worlds. Without Geonosis, the seperatists had a problem with manufacturing. Especially and most importantly ships. Separatists would not be able to hold out unless there was an organic commander with a fleet. Which honestly, would be some cool episodes. A separatist admiral still fighting who might lay the foundation for the rebellion.

It's nice that we are seeing a lot of what happened to the Confederacy of independent systems how they're holding out against the empire. Really sad that they didn't survive long enough to join the Rebellion.

It would be interesting to see the CIS holdouts eventually join forces with the other cells in the Rebel Alliance and they need everyone and everything they can get their hands on to fight the Galactic Empire.

I love the High-Five the Droids in the tank give each other when they shoot down the Imperial Shuttle XD

IDK if anyone caught this but when Gov. Ames said, "peace wasn't an option" it's very reminiscent of the first line of the Sith code: "peace is a lie."

Not as the CIS existed but as what the holdouts became a part of: The Rebel Alliance.

I think the relationship between the seperatist holdouts and the rebel alliance is interesting. Many rebel groups, including THE Rebel Alliance were committed to restoring the Republic, which of course the seperatists had fought against. So, speratist holdouts could either choose to bend the knee to the Empire, side with their old enemies, or holdout alone and inevitability be conquered. Interesting.

I am very glad there wasn't a multi-year time jump between seasons, as I love seeing how the empire gets control of the galaxy, and how the Bad Batch adapt to being on their own as well as caring for Omega.

It's interesting to see how the clone troopers are being used post Clone Wars. Being used as commando units against any CIS holdouts makes a lot of sense. You can also see the beginnings of why the Empire eventually failed. They spread themselves too thin and had to exhaust the resources of multiple planets just to keep themselves going. Desix is probably a barren world by the time of the Galactic Civil War.

This might never happen but I'd like to see a battle between the TK troopers and imperial navy against a massive CIS holdout, perhaps a planet with its own droid factory with an ample stockpile of materials. (And some nasty losses for the Empire to make things fun)

I really hope the Separatist holdouts are explored more in future episodes, I would love to see the Bad Batch work together with a surviving battle droid outpost as much as I doubt it'll happen. There needs to be an episode in the Bad Batch like the one in Rebels where Kanan, Ezra, Rex and Zeb worked together with General Kalani and his battle droids to escape the Empire.

I'd love to see some episodes of the Batch working with Separatist holdouts, most likely grudgingly with Omega being the voice of diplomacy. It would make for some interesting situations with former Republic commandos working alongside devoted Separatists and their battle droids.

I’d imagine that the empire didn’t want to destroy every holdout as they wanted further justification for expansion of their military. They may have left weaker separatist holdouts or even helped them by hiring mercenaries discreetly so they could get stronger and the empire could justify its military expansion even more.

Honestly this episode highlighted the combat and tactical superiority of the clones over stormtroopers and battle droids better than even TCW did. Probably cause it was highlighted on them rather than the Jedi.

The closest faction that can have a chance to fight against the empire was Gizor Delso from Legends. Man was on the run and tried his best to rebuild an army and fleet from scratch while being a number 1 target from the empire. Shame 501st killed off his faction before he can be a bigger threat if his faction survived until the GCW starts.

First time I wanted the clankers to win in this episode. Was kinda hoping they'd been upgraded and actually did, (They definitely stood up better than normal) and the Empire just overwhelmed them with numbers for the plot point that they're the bad guys. Then again I do love the Basic Battle Droids. Rodger Rodger! =D

Getting shot down is a clones average Tuesday while getting shot down is a desperate situation for stormtroopers

In this particular case, the Droid Battalion had the ability to hold out on a tactical level. They had hundreds of droids, special units, and a basic competent commander. If this was a stormtrooper unit or the clones didn’t have a special forces guy attracted, the battalion would at least been able to bog down the attackers. Problem is beyond small unit Tactical level fighting, the battalion was screwed. They had zero naval assets to engage a proper invasion force with even basic warships. Send in a frigate to support the invasion and the defenders would be screwed. So sure short term they could had held out, but once the Empire sends a serious force, they would had been done for.

It felt soooo weird rooting for the droids in this episode omg i found myself feeling bad for the droids and hoping they would get more clones that felt really strange im used to rooting for the clones🤷‍♂️😭😂

What I loved about this episode is you can already start to see the events of andor taking place it was probably unintentional but the ending of the episode where the empire began to occupy the planet and search homes to me already felt like this planet would quickly follow Ferrixs lead of fighting the empire I dont know if it was intentional or not but it was a nice tie any way

I loved that this was essentially an episode that would have fit into the Clone Wars, until the final minutes. Instead of celebrating the rescue of a diplomat, we saw Cody's disillusionment, his realization that the Empire was not what he had spent years fighting for. I only wonder how many more are going to go AWOL before the Empire cracks down.

It’s quite strange that Crosshair has respect to at least one reg commander

Speaking of planetary defenses and Alderaan, what was the fall fallout of its destruction? Did Palpatine give Tarkin any flack about his choice of action? It would be interesting to see a video about the full effect this single attack had on the galaxy.

I heard that some Separatist Supporters eventually joined the Rebel Alliance. I'd like to hear how the two felt and reacted about fighting the Empire together.

Crosshair’s standoff with the tank definitely rivals Anakin dodging a tank shot/standoff at the beginning of the last season

At first I was exited when I saw Battle Droids, but as soon as I saw the scene cut to Crosshair I knew that they wouldn't last past the episode. Also didn't a group of clones on the bridge get direct impacted by rockets two or three times?

I am more puzzled by the lack of B2 battle droids as heavy hitters, dwarf spiders for AA and the other units than anything.... If you don't count the tactical droid and the commandos, this garrison was more a trade federation force than one from the CIS

One advantage clones had was they knew each other. Unlike stormtroopers and TK troopers, clone troopers worked with their brothers and were encouraged to get to know one another. Ironic because they were originally designed like the TK and Stormtroopers. Clones knew what another was capable of, where as Stormtroopers and TK troopers didn’t.

Funny how probably the best episode in the series didn’t even contain the majority of the main cast

Throughout the entire episode, who else gets the Battle of Fort Slava vibe from it? And by that, I mean despite knowing the outcome already but still rooting for the Separatists to win. Also, if Desix possessed a number of proton cannons along with the planetary shield, they will not only be able to defend the city but also actually destroy those Star Destroyers like what happened when Obi-Wan attempted to land the invasion fleet at the Battle of Ryloth as well.

to me it shows how the clones are being used as cannon fodder in sense after because after the battle you see their replacement take over

I liked the tactical genius the Empire employed when they sent seven men to secure the city in the beginning of the episode.

“Peace was never an option” -knife wielding duck

It was a quick battle BUT a costly one-even with Cody and Crosshair and the experienced clones-and they did succeed-but if you look more closely you see a lot of these clones die-losses which you just can't replace with green tk soldiers.

I was watching this episode with my son and we both agreed that the droids would have been much more effective against the storm troopers that came later, the ones that Han and Luke fought against, the ones who couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with their blasters. That would have been a much better ground battle to watch because the droids would have forced the Empire to send a lot more troops and more heavy weapons.

There’s so much to be said about the ‘grey moralities’ of the Clone Wars. So many fans think of the Confederacy as just the villains, but the Confederacy was already beginning before Dooku was elected head of state. It’s so sad in that all so many people wanted was freedom from what they saw as an oppressive, corrupt government and we rarely get to see that reality unless we read the books.

Somthing I noticed in this episode, that I never realized for some reason was that droids don’t use grenades. The big advantage clones always had was throwing out Droid popper grenades to clear out the next room. Why didn’t droids ever get such a useful weapon.

This episode was something else. It was like it had the heroic action of TCW, but none of the heroic music or themes. The Clones aren't the good guys anymore, which made it all feel pleasantly weird.

The Clones are essentially Special Forces at this point.

Cool to see CIS holdout and their fight against the empire.

If I lived in the Star Wars universe, I definitely will try to get my hands on some of those battle droids. Also, The commando droids along with others of the good ones I think it would be a great way to fight back against the empire as long as you have actual real living troops to back them up. It’ll save casualties on your own man before they get to you.

This was a great episode. I’d like to see more episodes like this on in the Bad Batch.

another example is Gizor Dellso's last stand, he found a old droid factory in Mustafar and began cranking out as many droids as possible until the empire found him. At first the clones were nostalgic because they were finally fighting something the knew but eventually turned sour as the were proving very difficult to deal with. Eventually they broke through and began the ground assault and there was so many droids but eventually they called up the star destroyers and orbital bombed the factory

You're an amazing channel for giving us so much quality content so rapidly (and with editing, it's not just a fast webcam thing). I hope you don't mind but I referred to your channel in a video about SW I made recently.

I think it would be great to see droids vs first gen stormtroopers without clone help because that would be an amazing curfuffle of just droids and barely trained conscripts.

Always sad seeing how things got work for the CIS. Especially considering the reason they exist and what happened to their leaders.

You are on fire lately! Quantity AND quality! 👏

Great vid GenTech!

"Peace was never an option" Across time, space, and reality, a goose feels a connection

I do love any episode, where we get to see old battle droids being put to a different use.

What a review and insight. Keep it up

As a Battlefront II (2005) player, I can assure you, yes, CIS holdouts had a pretty good chance against the Empire.

It would be cool seeing republic/sepratist holdouts contribute clones and droids against the empire. That would be a cool ark seeing how these two assets would inter-operate

Great video! As usual

Look at those tank crew droids high-fiving each other! They definitely have a supportive work environment. 😊

I'm glad we're seeing some of the Seperatist perspective but I'd love to see more. It's a nice contrast to always seeing everything from the eyes of the Republic.

That was a fantastic episode

I’d love to see a Separatist POV show after and during the Jedi Purge. It always makes me wonder what was going on the minds of my brethren, watching the Clones shoot and murder the Generals they protect. For the Separatist Alliance!

I'm kind of wondering how this mission will affect Cody, especially that speech at the end. The sight of Cody actually lowering his weapon seems to show that he was affected and maybe he will start questioning decisions made by the empire. We already had seen before in previews Cody discussing rumblings amongst the clones.

Notice how the Empire showed up with tk troopers used the clones for the fighting and then occupied the system with thousands of tk troopers. One way to get rid of your clones. Probably intentional

I'm glad they do thoughtful show like this for younger and all ages audiences.

Last time I was this early, Darth Plagueis was getting ready for bed

Wasn’t Quarzite a CIS world? Nothing short of the Death Star would be able to conquer that fortification.

Alan an idea for a future background for you is a massive collection of either SW action figures or a massive Star Wars Book collection!! Or little of both!!!

9:41 hence why they took a hostage. Fortunately for the holdout, this was still early on in the Empire where they actually would have attempted a rescue mission and not simply gone "we don't negotiate with rebels" and blown up the city and the surrounding 100 kms.

The episode just answered the question

This episode and fight also showed just how much of a hero unit the Jedi were for clone army just imagine how much smoother the operation would've went if the clones had a Jedi fighting by their side especially against those commando droids.

i do respect doing what you think is right for you're people even if its futile.

"Good soldiers obey orders." -Crosshair (& many/most other Clone Troopers)

Honestly I love this episode so much because it make sense from a world building perspective. Of course not every single Separatist world would be neutralized with the general shutdown order. Rebels showed the shutdown order could be circumnavigated so it makes sense the droid army would still be active in certain sectors. But at the same time of course these holdouts wouldn't stand a ghost of a chance once the Empire turned its eye on them. They were cut off holdouts without the backing of the massive droid factories that fueled the CIS, because those had already been taken over by the Empire. But it still makes sense that these holdouts would optimistically still resist, because they genuinely believed in the cause of session or hoped they were small enough the Empire wouldn't notice them. The whole thing genuinely feels like organic world building. These don't feel like the result of trying to match a series with someone else's "magnum opus" *cough every series remotely connected to the sequels cough,* but rather feels like the result of a natural series of events in the history of this galaxy

The clones were just built different, all of their commanders got to fight and learn from the best and brightest of the jedi during the clone wars.

This was the one time i was _really_ rooting for the droids instead of the clones But i knew since crosshair was there, the plot likely wouldn't have let that mission go down in total failure on his part

Ep3 had the vibes of an Andor episode. Love it!

Please do more videos on tactics

You've convinced me to check out the new season of bad batch, at least for this episode.

‘Futile’. That was the word that sprung to mind with this episode.

I think its important to note not just the difference in level of training, but also the mindset of the forces doing the training. The Republic (including the Romans version irl) by its nature is trying to make the most effective army it can field to combat a threat. Palpatines Army by comparison is only training soldiers for obedience and cheapness in effect creating Humanoid B1's. Palpatines bodyguards were of course the most opposite of this by making incredibly obedient, walking forces of death that obliterate all. The "New Republic" was a guerilla/terrorist force trying to professionalize into a standing army. Lets be real I'm willing to fight for either Republic or Empire, but one must be real about their odds and adapt accordingly...otherwise all you will find is death. And not the heroic kind....

I loved the original adaptation on paper and comic that the thumbnail is of

I understand that droids aren't bright but that fight was full of plot armor

Idk why but I really get blade runner vibes with the new season's soundtrack

I find it interesting that their droids were quite efficient and powerful force, maybe the fact they were a rather small batallion compared to the standard added more cohesion?

I am really glad that they are highliting that the separatists were the original freedom fighters, and showing how the rebel alliance was just a continuation of the separatists with some freedom loving core worlds added as well. A lot of new media has focused on this and that makes me happy.

I’d be interested in reading a story where a super tactical droid finds a secret separatist world, maybe in the far outer rim near the galaxy’s edge, which is equipped with a shipyard, factory, and basically is fully self reliant, and the droid starts building and expanding to other hidden systems to try and build up the forces to retake the galaxy.

Very cool

So freaking weird to me. The framing of the CIS was that they were bad guys, then I see them in this show. I want them to win…but y’know.

Can’t believe Nova went unmentioned here, he was clutch af and they only just got him at the end

As long as the holdout has a factory that can produce droids and space ships, it only needs to stay hidden and build up, after which it can snowball and carve out a piece of galactic territory for itself. It only needs power and metals, both of which can be found even in dead star systems. The CIS is one of the only factions that could actually make such a comeback, because of the high automation rate.

The best part of this episode was the casual “Dooku was right”. Everything since Clone Wars has proven that right.

I feel that in The Phantom Menace, Darth Maul had the high ground against padawan Obi-Wan Kenobi when he was hanging off the ledge, but even the high ground wasn't enough to help Maul. Yoda may have been the Jedi Grandmaster, but Obi-Wan Kenobi was the Jedi "ground" master.

The clones become the SF units while the TK units are the grunts like modern day military.

Gizor Delso's holdout was unfortunate to be discovered. He had a fleet of ships available including Providence Class Cruisers

If we remember the time Anakin false surrendered to draw out the tactical droid before that whole mandalor incident we can see that droids can, with some preparation, be very stubborn foes to fight

@Generation Tech Hey Alan, do you wonder why the canon Darth Vader never tried to take a secret apprentice like Galen Marek in legends?

The B1's high five after shooting down a gunship with an antitank cannon was pretty RAD ngl droids need more W's

Honestly glad someone's talking about this (deadliness of droids if they were working at their best) but still sad we see it the one time and the average humans ignore how skilled and useful clones are/were.

Empire everytime they fail to capture: if i cant have it, you cant either. **bombards the city**

The fact the CIS holdouts in legends kept showing up even in the Yuuzhan Vong War only shows how hard it was and is to find them.

It’s pretty sad to see them get done dirty in the aftermath of the war. But there is comfort in knowing that both the CIS and the clones got their revenge through the Alliance.