These are real stories with real people. It's not supposed to be entertaining. Unless you lost a loved one to murder, I guess you'll be entertained.

Hehehe… As long as you don’t have a smile that lights up a room, then you should be safe! 🤣

Same here

You aren’t alone

😂

Newsflash: People with families have sex toys. Just because you die doesn't mean you deserve respect.

She was even separated. It's not right she was shamed like that. I agree with you.

Because someone having sex toys is shameful and something to disrespect?

@triggerskull Maybe in the 1950s. The way the older detective went on about gels was unbelievable. It was as if he'd found kilos of Fentanyl and human sacrifice memorabilia in her bag.

Meh who cares? The truth is having a stash of that kind of thing is kinda gross. And you never know how long you will be on this earth. If something happens, even with natural causes...strangers sometimes but usually family goes through everything you own EVERYTHING. The get rid of it or it becomes an inheritance. My advice, don't keep that stuff. Kids too can easily find it and can cause all kinds of uncomfortable situations. And if youre put in this situation they can talk about it.

and implies that she would run away! a dedicated mom (even if she enjoys sex) is not necessarily going to abandon her kids bc she has a bag of toys and lube 😮 so stupid

If the shoe fits….

If you are screwing everyone you can get into bed with, yes, that is perverted.

It was Colonel Mustard with the dildo in the library.

Cope

I was going to save this for later, but these comments! Lol🤣 Yours was the final straw

Yeah, no one says anything about his butt plug or beads!

Did you hear him say there were, dare I say it... gels? No two ways about it; the sex toys were the culprit.

It's a political trend, it seems.

Exactly 😡

It is outrageous to even mention it. What is scandalous about a single woman having a sex-life? Nothing at all.

I respectfully disagree. When you're a parent you have an obligation to put your kids first. Children who's parents are dating and have romantic partners in their lives are over 66% more likely to be physically or xu. ally. abused. And over 84% more likely to be emotionally abused. And the numbers are likely much much higher than even this because a lot of people don't report the abuse understandably. When you CHOOSE to have kids you are deciding to put your wants and needs behind theirs for the next 18 years. Tons of people are like but my partner wouldn't do that, and that's what every parents who's kid was ended by a bf/gf stepparent thought too. How could anyone know these statistics and still think my want to not be alone trumps their safety? Look at this very case. She's lucky he only ended her and didn't go after her children too. It's still very sad what happened to her and now her kids are growing up without a mother.

True...and legitimate. If you have kids that should be your focus...not getting it rubbed.

I absolutely agree!

Yea it’s one thing if her intimate life really did lead to her killer and there was an actual connection, so they need to explain it further. Otherwise whatever people do in their intimate lives has no worth mentioning. RIP Nancy

It shouldn’t be, but read up on victimology and you’ll understand. Her sister’s remark about her wanting to experience what she missed plus the bag full of sex toys could indicate something of behavior that might have attracted a predator. Problem is if there were lots of random men unknown to others in her life, where do cops look?

if it has something to do with the case then yes it is

Sounds like you just made it all of our business...... Why???❓❓❓

I agree. It seems to me, the cops gave up on the butcher bloke, as they couldn't get a confession, so decided to blame the victim, implying she's a wh*re, because she had some adult entertainment toys. Seriously??!!

My thoughts exactly. My 72 year old female friends has and uses sex toys. It's not that unusual.

It is nobody’s business if she had an adventurous sex life as a single person.

Triggered much?

That threw me off, too. What's wrong with having sex toys and a sex life? They kept bringing it up as if it were an anomale. 🙄

Women should organise solidarity marches. It's so unessicary and irrelevant.

Lots of victim blaming IMO.

This channel is so so guilty of victim blaming and shaming (especially female) victims of *gasp* having an active sex life. It's pretty gross.

So true. They should have put a different title. Very disrespectful. As if it's her fault.

They’re trying to warn women about living a certain lifestyle. You can’t trust strangers. Women are high risk

Seriously! How disgusting to shame her like that. Clearly the script was written by some insecure misogynist.

I get someone pulled up and she went to “buy them drugs” and she thought they’d be right back.

@@lilyt18right?!! Tf is the problem with us females pleasing outselves?! Not like these men do it properly anywho 💀

Naw. It has a lot to do with it. Stop playing like it don’t. Smdh. Accountability and females never mix.

Social worker here, just a few miles from where Nancy Moyer disappeared. Rural area with extremely corrupt cops that hate women. I've been treated like absolute dog 💩💩💩 any time my safety was in danger. If you're a liberal, you're a whore.

nothing wrong with being a side character if this is what happens to the main characters

Don't be givin' anyone that shirt off yo' back either!

These comments took me out 😂

Yuppppp; I’m darkening every room I enter; efff thatttt!!!

Or live in a town where people leave their doors unlocked because crime never happens there.

Exactly

Ya it's not out of line for a full grown woman to have toys and date men. It rubbed me the wrong way as well. Kinda makes me think if it was a single father doing the same, they wouldn't have mentioned it. Also bothers me that her daughters may eventually see this episode and that is not okay. ❤

I am glad that is not the norm, some people has morals.

That was my first thought when they said Abt the cop seeing her carry her groceries in. I immediately thought it could be him. 😮

Exactly!!!!

My thought exactly

Look in the comments, everyone agrees that the fact she had a few lovers as a single person & was dating, & the fact she had dildoes, is very average, and they're turning it into something else salacious.

Her story was especially heartbreaking to think about her girls going through life not knowing. I’m glad to see so many people in the comments agreeing that the info about the “toys” is ludicrous. ❤

This is a distasteful story. Not too late to delete.

@@corycarr oh, shut up and go watch a Disney movie or something less “distasteful.” 🙄🙄🙄 Tfoh

Thank you! The sex toy thing is ridiculous. It's old school sexism, subtly blaming the victim by exposing her "lifestyle". She was an adult woman with a sex life, that's not that scandalous

Don't forget about the gels 😂

It's not that they don't do the job, it's just that individual is worn out.

Haha

"Men don't do yhe job..." Speak for yourself. 😂

It's not the having toys that trips me out... it's when they have a Huge FAT ass dildo. I'm like SHIT! She can take a whole Forearm 😅

Real facts

Well was she ?

Not at all ..if you have no shame it wouldn't nor shouldn't bother you

Bc they need views. Promiscuity of women sells. They need to make the story spicy.

infuriating to say the least

😂😂😂

Well women that use sex toys are known to run away, so it definitely is relevant 🥴

@@AggressiveMediocrity1 How old are you????? A teenager??

@@AggressiveMediocrity1 wtf are you talking about? You sound ignorant af

@@queenofthebutterflies5212 it was a joke, relax.

She's a woman, and women doing anything freely sexual that doesn't involve male dictation bothers many. They will victim shame in attempts to stop other women from "acting out of line"

Like they've never seen a dildo before. 😅😂😂😂😂

Ikr. I'm not even finishing this episode.

And so many June Cleavers must have done the wrong stitch in their needlepoint hearing about the toys, and their Incel sons in the basement putting down their lotion and talking about morals as they flip between this and their favorite co play video as Maria the blow up doll watches from the corner

where?

I have an IQ of 360, and I don't know what pearl clutching is.....??? Please explain this in detail. 🧠💪👍🍻

That part 👍🏼

Right! I absolutely agree.

The investigation always finds dirt in people's personal lives and brings it out. I feel sorry for her family

stop judging yourself

When I heard single mother I started searching the comments for supreme gentlemen

She was still very married, and her divorce wasn't finalized yet. 🚫💍💎💔💦

Don't blame us men, I think her sex toys shouldn't have even been mentioned, it is disrespectful to her and her family.

@@manuelsoares9698 It's clearly a man's perspective. That's all that was said. Why are you so insecure that the second you read anything about men you immediately picture that person talking about you?

@@FoxExcess I am pretty secure with myself and my masculinity. If I made a claim regarding a woman's perspective coming from a man, I expect a woman to chime in with her opinion. Welcome to the internet in which we can all express our opinions and perspectives. Have a nice day)

Open it up and if the odor and color doesn’t knock you out, share it with a “neighbor” first ;-) Kidding you, my friend!

You should be worried. What you have is actually human meat. You might want to throw it away.

Why did the meat have to travel from the UK to China to be packaged and then be sent back? The question above is what I'd be asking. Let us please know.

As long as it doesn’t say America your ok lol

@@tck3041 My comment was just a joke, but your comment deserves an answer. Our meat has nothing to do with China, but fish caught in UK's waters are shipped over to China, processed and then shipped back and that's pretty much why I wrote my comment.

where's the victim blaming?

Lmao 😂

😂

Healthy 😅😅😅😅 These women go lengths

You sound triggered. Almost like you lived a similar lifestyle and can’t accept that other people find it promiscuous. What makes sleeping with multiple people a healthy sex life. And who cares about profession.

Hide your sex toys before you die. 😂

@@parthsavyasachi9348 Yeah I don't see anyone saying "she got what was coming to her" or "deserved it". They just found some bizarre stuff and wondered if as is often the case it may have brought her into proximity of a weirdo. I just saw a case recently of a piece of shit in New Mexico that killed her own kid so she could have a three way with her dog and some guy she met online.

@@christopherjohnson2171 true that.

You know.... it REALLY has.

Facts

The show itself doesn't even exist anymore. They just have the podcast. Everything else is reruns from when the show was on the air.

Sounds like your morality has, too.

@@FluffyNinjaUnicorn3Gaming Well unless this was aired 70 years ago there's no reason for victim shaming her like this. Who is this century cares about something like this is in a murder case where there is a ton of evidence that her "lifestyle" had nothing to do with anything.

Most innocent people would say YES of course, if I knew where a body was I’d tell you.

@krystaldaniels7940 That's absurd. I'm extremely good at word problems & that question is the literally thee dumbest question, I've ever heard.

I thought the same about this question. The only smart response se is to refuse to answer it. And what would any answer to this question do to advance the investigation? I don't think either a "yea" or "no" answer provides any insight to the investigator. The detective probably learned this question at some b.s. murder investigation seminar held at the Holiday Inn in the state capital. Even worse than being a useless question is that either answer (yes or no) can be used to make the person look bad.

@@mweimorts And a non- answer, too. Then, they're being 'evasive'. Lol

Most murders period are by people known to the victim. That's not some trend with women only. "Nothing was shaming" Are you high? Read the title. "Did single mom's shocking sex life LEAD to her disappearance?" First off it's not remotely shocking, second they're clearly implying she's just being reckless and screwing random guys all the time, even going further. Yet the evidence doesn't remotely show that. All it shows it that she masturbates and goes on some casual dates. The only thing that LEAD to her disappearance was the person who committed the crime. That is not a victim's fault. The title is not only stupid, but what parent would want some two bit news program commenting on their sex toys in tv programs that millions of people are going to see, including their kids. You wouldn't want that, so stop acting like nothing is wrong here and that all these people are just crazy who are not happy about how this was talked about. You see nothing wrong with a cop finding some sex toys and then going on a program saying that she could have just up and left her kids because she was just so into sex? Seriously buddy, get a clue.

how did it offend you?

I know! It’s very offensive that people act like you’re a terrible person if you have anything like that and/ or if you are dating anyone. Or even just have a glass of wine after work. Sometimes you just need to wind down. Even if she was using those by herself, I respect her for not having some creepy guy around her daughters. Dating someone new is scary! So many kids are assaulted or even killed by a step parent or parent’s significant other!

Sounds pretty wild to me. And I will guarantee it had a lot to do with why she had lost her husband. She wanted the single life

​@@kimmy722having sex toys is considered "wild" to you? You must be a senior huh?

I'm sorry Karen aka ishab, but I'm confused on how it offended you personally? I can see it being an insult or her family taking offense to it but it has nothing to do with you. Its like you took offense because you like sex toys or sleeping around 😂

Nancy Moyer 2009. All you have to do 8s Google the names if it's that important.

No one should own sex toys, and that's why men & women have hands and fingers. 🤌🧠💪👍🍻

Yeah, they post these videos over and over. I’ve seen some and then they post them again. I watch them thinking it’s an update but it’s the same episode they already posted. So annoying. I hasn’t seen this one yet though.

@@angeliquemaez5569 mi think bc the show got cancelled

2016...... Not 1916!

Omg! The scandal! 😂😂

I've seen this case a few years ago. When I read the title of the video, I checked when it was posted, because her face seemed familiar and I thought KZfaq is recommending something old.

​@@mini_skinny0296All non-podcast uploads from this channel are reruns of the show being uploaded to the channel. The show itself went off the air years ago.

2005? This wouldn't have been cool then either. I hate when people act like 20 years ago was the 1940s.

I agree. It's none of anyone's business. Even if she was married. Every woman is entitled to masturbation without being shamed. I really don't think it was relevant and it's not nice for her family. But lingerie and stuff she needed a partner for might be relevant but it could have been handled more tastefully.

Damn someone feels targeted 😳

lol how did they imply that her sex toys caused her death?

I highly doubt the people involved in this case have sex lives at all. We all saw them.. That's probably why they were so surprised and acted like it was something so unusual. "I had to take steps back and blink my eyes twice" lol. Come the fuck on. This investigator acts like he still has PTSD from it.

She brought it upon herself- Sorry. Sexual immorality is a sin and it doesn’t appear she was repenting.

*The* question of the age.

He had a little tool. So she traded him in for a sex toy. LOL

Maybe they were unhappy together?

@jjkatz Unhappiness is always a legit reason to ruin one's children. How dare I.

it isn't

Why??? She had tons of sex toys in her room.

Sex is great. Don't know what all these people taking. Give me 2 lmfao

where?

Oh I'm trying. Shamefully a lot of mine get removed

Oh my god. Arrest everyone. Sexual fantasies. Definitely a crime. 😂😂😂. Your not allowed to do that. Nope. Frozen meat in her freezer..i.m done. I can't take this crap serious. Crime watch 😂

They brought it up because it was a possibility that someone she slept with was the murderer.

Morals lifestyle Longer list of suspects

@@lawrencehammersley4945 100% sure you never beat your meat, oh Moral Lawrence

@@lawrencehammersley4945 Masturbating has nothing to do with morality or why she died. Her sex toys should have been completely left out of this.

@@lawrencehammersley4945 morals? Bruh so if someone plays with u like let’s say u r married… he would be morally wrong for doing so? That’s crazy talk but okays

Because his family had the money. It’s sick how twisted our legal system can be! He should NEVER set foot out of that prison.😢

Maybe because her parents were never mentioned?… she had zero support.

how is that ignorant?

They are hiding something

2009

Why...they don't tear off?😢😢😢she needs to tell us where she buys them...😢😢😢

@@Liz-up2tithis is too funny 😂

@@erikag1633😂😂😂 I’m glad I made someone laugh 😂😂😂😂

"I was shocked! I had to take a step back and blink twice!" Oh my! Dude, did you ever wonder what that buzzing sound is whenever you call Helen when you are working the night shift? Or why batteries are always on her grocery list? Go home and be prepared to take 2 steps back and blink 3 times when you open Helen's nightstand drawer.😅

@@ellybean5868 Blinking thrice is serious! 😄 For a homicide investigator, he seems fragile and naive. I hope he's not in a position of investigating a woman after her bridal shower/Bachelorette party and finds the box of "joke gifts" of bedroom toys her friends have given her. He might think she has a "secret" tawdry "life style." 😂

Oh my Lawd. He's shocked and outraged. Probably a devout Christian or something. If it was a few assault rifles and pistols he'd be be all hunky dory.

Pretty creative! 😂

You live in Muncie, Indiana?

Nah, but it sounded right at the time of replying. HOWEVER, I have been there, during studies, way back in 97.Areyou a hoosier btw?🙂@@Lucy-ym8ch

😅😅😅 th u so much for the belly laughs. Hilarious.

Yes, that MAYOR has enormous “blood” on his hands. He intentionally set everything up to KILL, STEAL and DESTROY. 🙅🏻‍♀️

Let me guess he refused to let him breathe? 😮

@@kevinsworld.7086 NO! He’s over 50 and figured that it was the right time to retire given recent events.

Right! They're just talking themselves out of their own shame. It's all denial and projection. Society is being overtaken by sex crazed narcissists. These are the same people who say porn in harmless despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary. People who lack self control get caught up in all sorts of deadly dealings.

So she just left her door unlocked with a half full glass of wine when she's supposed to meet with her ex to pick up her kids....to go have sex with some random dude. That's the important theory you think everyone needs to be made aware of her having sex toys for? Her fcking kids are going to watch this, even if that was a theory you don't put that on a news story about a victim, as well as the bloody title. Use your head please.

because people today cant really sacrifice for their kids

😂

I attended the first Crimecon's Crowdsolve before I knew about how crooked the owners were. They focused on this case and Karen Bodine. I'm a forensic social worker and I have never seen such a coordinated effort to taint this case. They actually handed out statements from people who were not even listed as persons of interest or witnesses, completely unredacted.The Thurston County Sheriff's Department helped sponsor the event and cohosted it. I saw such disregard for investigative principles that I went out of my way to talk to the owner of Crimecon at the event and wrote leadership repeatedly. They didn't care. In addition, there was a confession and a full dig about 2 months before this event. Thurston county Sheriff then said he retracted his confession and claimed they needed a lot of time to look at new DNA tech. That was 2019. The police and Crimecon look in the eyes of Nancy's family, making all kinds of promises, as if the morons who attended Crowdsolve would solve this case. They don't screen who attends these events. There were 2 groups there that really concerned me: 1) rich housewives from California 2) people who probably want to do terrible things to women and get away with it. I literally watched the California wives take the information off these police statements and go camp out in front of their homes all night. After seeing that level of mishandling, I feel confident that the Thurston County Sheriff's Department cares far more about getting on TV than solving homicides. I live right down the street from Nancy. In 2017, a woman was decapitated and it didn't even make the news. Several children have survived attempted kidnapping. These idiot KZfaq channels don't mention this, but this area has a lot of violence towards women because even though it's rural, it's also adjacent to one of the largest military bases in the world. I'm also a former military social worker specializing in SV and military service. I actually offered to help with this case and the Thurston County Sheriff declined. They hate us social workers. We're "too woke" Now, I have a cyberstalker. Rando in Texas that I've never interacted with. He's been stalking me for 2 years. The Thurston County Sheriff's Department refused to take a police report for an entire year. They gaslight me, talk over me, and literally refused to take a huge 3 ring binder of evidence I personally brought to their station. I know this is the revenge I get for speaking up about this and don't care. I'm a published scientist who was trained by Dr Hare to perform the psychopath test. I worked in 5 prisons. I could get far more done to help these families but no one in true crime wants my help. They can't stand real experts. oh, and Crimecon paid fake experts for their attempt to work this case at Crowdsolve. "Statement analysis" is not a scientific method. It was taught at this event by a guy with nothing beyond a bachelor's in English. The people who attend these events support a commodification of homicide and rape that makes solving these cases even less likely. Imagine what this does to the families. Giving them false hope on stage with hundreds of people in the audience? It's really sick. Also, there's no evidence she was a sex worker. The actual statements from character references suggested she was promiscuous. Men in Tenino are very quick to claim a woman is promiscuous for 2 reasons: she's a liberal or she doesn't want to sleep with you.

@@RedPillSpill101what happened to yours?

what's your name?@@mynamedoesntmatter3231

I don't get it 😕 😐

Thank you😊👍