Did The Longbow Dominate Medieval Warfare?

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The English Warbow/Longbow lives rent free in the Mind of Administrative Results. Often times one can catch him obsessing over the implementation of the longbowman for medieval warfare. A video like this is very cathartic for him, for it allows him to wax over his thoughts on the Warbow/Longbow.
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The English Longbow, often referred to as the Warbow, played a significant role in medieval English warfare, particularly during the Hundred Years' War (1337-1453) with France. These bows were characterized by their great height, typically standing as tall as the archer, and were made primarily from yew wood. The longbow's design allowed for a high draw weight, meaning that the archer needed considerable strength to draw and release the arrow effectively.
One of the most famous battles showcasing the effectiveness of the English Longbow was the Battle of Agincourt in 1415. English archers, armed with longbows, played a crucial role in the victory over the French. The longbow's long range, accuracy, and rapid rate of fire made it a formidable weapon on the battlefield.
Training to become an archer, especially for longbows, was a demanding process. The archer needed to develop both strength and skill. Training often started from a young age, and archers underwent years of practice to build the necessary muscle strength for drawing the high poundage of the longbow.
Accuracy and consistency were crucial, so archers would practice regularly to refine their shooting technique. The process involved not only physical conditioning but also mental discipline to maintain focus during the chaos of battle.
Composite bows, often used in the East, had different advantages and disadvantages. They were typically shorter, making them more maneuverable, but they generally had a lower draw weight compared to longbows. Composite bows were well-suited for mounted archers and were effective in different tactical situations.
In summary, the English Longbow was a powerful weapon that played a crucial role in medieval warfare. Its effectiveness was rooted in the archer's skill, training, and the bow's design, but it also had limitations, especially in terms of the training required and vulnerability in certain combat scenarios.
00:00 Warbow time
01:08 Admin is obsessed with Longbow
04:21 Warbow Vs Armor
07:36 Thanks AHG/AP
08:54 The Departure of Boromir
09:15 Warbow vs Armor + Buttmail
13:01 Longbow Vs soft target
17:13 Warbow History
23:22 Longbow in WW2? Ft. Fat Electrician
24:13 Warbow fatigue
26:42 Flintlock vs armor
28:49 All Arrows are gone
30:53 Bloopers

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@dashrendar5320 8 ай бұрын

Dude!!! Came out so amazingly, love the voiceover and the slow mo, truly fantastic and well worth the drive 😁

@NoName-lo9ym 8 ай бұрын

How have you built up to drawing the 165 pounder? I have a 100 pounder from Joe Gibbs and its a bloody nightmare to draw and I am not weak. Do you have workout plan to build up strength other than just repetitively drawing and going up the draw weight levels? Love your channel 💪

@johnqpublic2718 8 ай бұрын

@@NoName-lo9ymlook at his arms bruh

@tom-vf1xv 8 ай бұрын

@@NoName-lo9ym bad news bud, you are weak.

@AdministrativeResults 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for coming out my man! The skills are very impressive. Frenchie never stood a chance

@autr3553 8 ай бұрын

@@AdministrativeResultsWould love to see you stick to bow skillz and update us in a year

@Thickok_45 8 ай бұрын

Bows and ballistic gel torsos, giving me Deadliest Warrior vibes

@AdministrativeResults 8 ай бұрын

Deadliest warrior did it first lol

@adamhauskins6407 8 ай бұрын

@@AdministrativeResultsthey did everything first

@PoliticallyInsensitive 8 ай бұрын

Some of that show was hokey as hell but yeah, cool nonetheless.

@94todd 8 ай бұрын

@@AdministrativeResults but admin did it better

@kananisha 8 ай бұрын

Good reference 👌

@loneczgunner6562 8 ай бұрын

Came for the penetration, stayed for the history lesson! Didn't expect that, well done sir.

@wDeXteR4 8 ай бұрын

Thaaaaaaat's what she said

@QualityPen 8 ай бұрын

This was better than I thought it would be, at least they acknowledged that this test isn’t historically accurate. For reference, here’s a couple of important things: -The cuirass shape is wrong, it bears more resemblance to ancient Greek cuirasses than Medieval ones. Medieval cuirasses were more sloped with a ridge running down the centerline, so that any arrow hitting the plate would hit at an angle and either be more likely to glance off or at least have more material to push through (a concept still used in tank design today), plus the convex shape makes the cuirass less likely to buckle inwards. -The cuirass is probably thinner than historically accurate, though I don’t know this for sure. Larper costumes like this tend to be thinner so they aren’t annoyingly heavy and because it’s cheaper to manufacture them if they use less material. This isn’t good for protection, however. -Until the extremely advanced plate-only suits of the late 16th and early 17th centuries, plate armor was worn with plate over mail over gambeson. Gambeson is a very dense linen armor. It can be cut through by broadhead arrows but bodkins have more trouble with it. Usually arrows which penetrated plate and/or mail were bodkin type points and would be caught by the gambeson. IE, Middle Easter archers described crusaders looking like arrow pincushions but uninjured. This was an essential component of the armor, so it’s weird they left it out. Most of their arrows would not have made it into the skin if there was gambeson in the way. This is more of a sidenote, but in the 17th century cuirasses became dramatically thicker to resist gunfire. While plate armor was never fully proofed against gunfire, cuirasses were manufactured to stop arquebuses. They were rated as full-proof (stops arquebuses) and half-proof (stops pistols). The NRA did a test once against a half-proof cuirass and found it stops up to .357 Magnum. Muskets were originally super-heavy arquebuses with higher muzzle energy to penetrate armor, and only after European cavalry stopped using such thick cuirasses did muskets reduce in power and take on the form we commonly recognize today, replacing the arquebus in the process.

@loneczgunner6562 8 ай бұрын

@@wDeXteR4 sounds like one strange date. But she stayed... keeper?

@randallraze9813 7 ай бұрын

Heard that somewhere completely different.

@xggx4268 3 ай бұрын

sounds like a comment under a p*rnhub video with a history teacher 😂

@HarryFlashmanVC 8 ай бұрын

We live in Northumberland, England, in our garden is an 800 year old coppised yew tree which was planted and coppiced ro make longbows

@XiphosProductions 8 ай бұрын

The fact that admin loves longbows is possibly the best piece of information I have ever come to know. Also this is probably the longest we've ever seen Dash with his shirt on.

@jason200912 8 ай бұрын

Not surprised since he does weekly Rhodesia videos

@XiphosProductions 8 ай бұрын

Ay man, don't hate on the short shorts and baby poop camo. it's a vibe@@jason200912

@jwilliams3170 8 ай бұрын

We need more Dash in the future, you two seemed like you genuinely enjoyed working together.

@mrdato116 8 ай бұрын

People cant even imagine how hard it is to shoot 150lb warbow. I have 50lb recurve and it gets me tired after 10 shots. Cant even imagine what 150lb feels like

@fboyg91 5 ай бұрын

Form and practice. Victorian style archery form lends itself to accuracy but it also restricts the muscles you engage drawing the bow. Look at medieval iconography. It looks NOTHING like Victorian style archery form. I was shooting 100lb in high school but it takes a lot of practice and correct form.

@Ivan-vn1pd 7 ай бұрын

The thing people don't understand is they had something called a gambeson that was like many layers of padded cloth that in some cases was kind of like very primitive, soft, body armor over hard body armor And even if an a little way through the plate armor, the gambeson likely would stop it from penetrating or being a lethal wound During the crusades, the Arabs would talk about Crusaders, wearing the soft and hard armor in conjunction, and walking around with seven or eight arrows, sticking out of them to no ill affect

@TheHenirik 7 ай бұрын

Imagine how warm that must have been though, especially running around like that in middle eastern heat. You would expect heat exhaustion to set in fairly quickly.

@13374me 7 ай бұрын

Yeah, on top of areas with mail, which they do mention here. I do appreciate that they mention and seem fairly aware that this isn't accurate and do mention a better example testing this with Tod's Workshop.

@P3RF3CTD3ATH 6 ай бұрын

@@TheHenirik knights didn't run around. Knights were a form of cavalry so they wouldn't be running around as they were on horseback.

@HaloDude557 6 ай бұрын

@@P3RF3CTD3ATHinfantry still wore some form of thick soft body armor. They weren’t just sending naked peasants with a spear

@P3RF3CTD3ATH 6 ай бұрын

@@HaloDude557 so what? They weren't wearing enough to stop arrows from causing serious injuries or death.

@Wodanazz 8 ай бұрын

This is really cool, please do more "historical" themed stuff!

@ekfinn 8 ай бұрын

*Erika march singing in the distance*

@bobskywalker2707 8 ай бұрын

Arquebus please!

@MrLense 8 ай бұрын

@@ekfinn could do without the werhabooism

@woytank2843 8 ай бұрын

I fully agree, honestly i would love to see more medieval Type content, maybe even the Total War

@fridrekr7510 8 ай бұрын

@@MrLense anti-Wehraboos are cringier than Wehraboos.

@autr3553 8 ай бұрын

If you want to go down a rabbit hole, testing / creating some really old weapons like the atlatl against the ballistic dunce would neat

@gratefulguy4130 8 ай бұрын

Nobody gives the atlatl enough love

@CntBckt 8 ай бұрын

Oh god. FUCK YEAH!!!

@user-cm8en8or1p 7 ай бұрын

Proud Englishman here who was pleasantly surprised to see AR doing a video on English Longbows. Good show old boy.

@lyndoncmp5751 7 ай бұрын

Don't you mean "nice one mate"?

@cmcsccw 3 ай бұрын

I’m afraid you’ve got the colonies muddled up with England

@ThatLadHazzaaa 3 ай бұрын

Im English and i have never ever heard someone say “Good show old boy.” 😂

@user-cm8en8or1p 3 ай бұрын

@@ThatLadHazzaaa Golly gosh, another fellow Englishman! How spiffing to meet you old boy!

@ThatLadHazzaaa 3 ай бұрын

@@user-cm8en8or1p Yh you’re definitely not English.

@c2099 8 ай бұрын

I think this is my favorite Admin video. An fantastic guest who vibes with Admin and has medieval muscles. This episode combines archery and firearms, larping and history, humor and philosophy. A guest appearance by The Fat Electrician? Cherry on the awesome cake

@amaricani 8 ай бұрын

I never expected this crossover but man am I greatful for it. Two absolute chads

@hypethekomodo6495 8 ай бұрын

Honestly I'd be real interested in seeing a crossbow vs. longbow comparison. Longbows could be fired further and faster but required a lot of training, where you could give some pleb a crossbow and they could potentially kill a knight with a bolt, at the cost of reload time. Really neat seeing just how destructive longbows could be.

@stormbringer2418 8 ай бұрын

If you haven’t already check out tods workshop. He has a video of a speed test between longbow and a siege windlass crossbow and various videos going over other aspects of both. You’ve pretty much got down why you would have a crossbow though, easy to use.

@oldiesaregoldies3511 8 ай бұрын

King Richard was killed by a peasant with a crossbow, after all.

@lscibor 8 ай бұрын

That's a common trope/meme but not quite true. Plenty of crossbowmen throughout medieval period were well paid professionals, medieval guilds and towns were holding shooting contests, and plenty of famous knights in particular were famed for being able to span very powerful crossbows from the belt, without more complicated mechanical aids. Which was greatly valued feat/skill too. Not to mentions that high quality composite crossbows in particular were expensive and time consuming to make, definitely not anything to "give" to some pleb, unless you want him to run away with it. In 15th century, it seems that making a composite prod could take at least about ~3 months, since about 15 weeks was time given to complete one as a masterwork for someone who wanted to become master crossbow maker. There were different kinds of crossbows, some likely were somehow quick and cheap ones for militia to fire away, but plenty were very effective weapons for pros, with accounts about them being greatly feared by Mongol or Middle Eastern armies. In fact, if anything, longbow was a weapon for "any pleb" because it was often very r cheap, piece of yew or other wood, when yew was scarce, carved into shape. And archers were, indeed plebeian. Not all were very skilled or strong either. Crossbow was simply favored weapon of most of Continental Europe for quite some time, eventually displaced by guns. England is kind of one exception with the way they favored the "classic" bow, though they used crossbows too, the term "rnglish windlass" appears to be genuinely medieval, after all.

@Shshd27733 8 ай бұрын

"If you want to train a longbowman, start with his grandfather."

@mikeorick6898 8 ай бұрын

Comparing the best of both, the great horn crossbow shoots bolts three times as heavy (>3,000 grains) as far or farther (>250yds) that hit harder and penetrate deeper when they get there. Very expensive though; not likely to see thousands of them on the battlefield.

@itnotmeitu3896 8 ай бұрын

Regarding the heavy jaw shot; yes, there’s instances of soldier’s surviving those wounds and recovering to a high degree

@BroadHobbyProjects 7 ай бұрын

Like King Henry being hit in the cheek with a deflection. Had to pull that out.

@tra779 6 ай бұрын

That happened just down the road from my house in Shrewsbury, at the museum they have a replica of the tool they pulled the arrowhead out with, it's not something I'd want to experience without painkillers!

@overtheatlas Ай бұрын

I dont think id want to experience it whatsoever 😂@@tra779

@severalbees5115 8 ай бұрын

Looks awesome. Especially with the area you’re in out in the desert, it would be really cool to see you do a video on Comanche bows as well, they’re a phenomenal example of what wooden bows can offer

@rumblechad 8 ай бұрын

English archers were also not just archers. When they had expended all their arrows or when the tactical situation required it, they would serve as highly mobile light infantry. And on campaign archers who could afford horses could be used in skirmishes and raids to harass the enemy and stir up a shitstorm and cause confusion.

@jacobnugent8159 8 ай бұрын

Love the LOTR references

@patrykb_ 7 ай бұрын

I can't imagine shooting on horseback with such a stick. In medieval Poland and Arab countries, it was not without reason that composite bows were mainly or only used.

@rumblechad 7 ай бұрын

@@patrykb_ It's definitely very difficult but can be done. It's also likely though that these mounted archers would ride to a place, dismount to shoot a bunch of arrows, then remount their horses and move out. That was the way a lot of cavalry with muskets would fight in the blackpowder era too.

@Trikipum 7 ай бұрын

@@rumblechad you cant pull a longbow, or any really powerfull bow, from horseback.. You simply cant place your hips in the right positio to pull such force.. it is biomechanics.. That is why everyhorse archer have used recurve composite bows, or the asymetrical super huge japanese bow, which is an aberration but kinda works.

@Cahirable 6 ай бұрын

@@TrikipumWell Charles the Bold thought the English archers in his army were doing too much, because he told them to knock it off, so clearly some were capable of it ;).

@benbowditch9265 8 ай бұрын

Thank you DASH! Simple bendy sticks, very long and complex training. That rock was brutal.

@ZbynaProchy 7 ай бұрын

Guys I think I did find out why the armor held not so well as in the original testing video. Because you put it on dummy wrong way forward. The front Chest part is much more bulged on and this is making it more resistant to the penetration because the arrows are sliding around the curved surface. Back side is pretty flat thats why the arrows went trough ;-)

@_aullik 6 ай бұрын

This is also what you call tin armor. It sounds like you can bend it with your arms. The armor Tod used is on a completely different level. Also probably 10 times as expensive.

@therisinghero1300 8 ай бұрын

You had the armor on backwards, that little bit of angling helps deflect things better, would have probably penned anyways considering how deep it did even on the back, but would love to see ya shoot it again

@SnackPack913 8 ай бұрын

That’s so funny how our kind of personality types end up getting into the same hobbies. I grew up watching LOTR which got me into historical battles like the battle of agincourt which got me to now owning a 130lb English longbow lol. Plus all the firearm stuff and larping

@mamoopy 8 ай бұрын

As an 11 year old English boy a decade ago now I was always proud of my homemade long bow, even prouder when it unexpectedly crossed a field and lost the only arrow I'd made at the time. Think you've inspired me to make a 2nd!

@Dan-gs3kg 8 ай бұрын

I hope you learn of Lars Anderson, and I forgot the name of the guy that has many videos about bowyering and tilling.

@WilliamNyberg 8 ай бұрын

@@Dan-gs3kgKramer Ammons perhaps?

@mamoopy 8 ай бұрын

@@Dan-gs3kg of course! Haven't watched him in many years I should watch a few again.

@naominekomimi 8 ай бұрын

I love the idea of these kinds of videos. I feel like it's important to get historically accurate armor for it, though, to make the tests meaningful.

@RadioactiveNapalm 8 ай бұрын

My favorite tidbit of history was when Oba Nobunaga got ahold of firearms for his army and was the first to mass adopt them into combat. These firearms were matchlock muskets, slow to reload, so what he would do, is have lines of gunmen behind cover, one would fire and start reloading and walk to the back of the line, archers would cover the gunmen as the line would progress, until the first gunman who was in line would return to the front, by that time, the first gunman would be finished reloading.

@tombrennan6312 2 ай бұрын

What Nobunaga did was already old hat in Europe. The first battle won by gunpowder small arms was Cerignola in 1503 when a Spanish army led by Gonzalo de Cordoba, "El Gran Capitan", defeated a French army consisting of French heavy cavalry and superb Swiss infantry.

@RadioactiveNapalm 2 ай бұрын

@@tombrennan6312 I wasn’t too clear when I wrote my statement, I was specifically talking about in Japan.

@bullphrogva1804 8 ай бұрын

I can't believe you convinced Dash to keep his shirt on for this btw.

@AdministrativeResults 8 ай бұрын

I told him my wife watches

@garrettthefrank1903 8 ай бұрын

The other issue with the armor that likely made it a lot easier to penetrate is the flat front face on the plate, armor was domed to redirect the energy of a blow, which wouldn't be the case with a flat piece of steel.

@mirsh2541 8 ай бұрын

Hate to be that guy, but they actually put it on backwards. Between that and using cheap stuff like this off ebay they might as well have used regular mild steel sheet metal. This test might be fun and all, but doesn't really say much about real historical armour.

@garrettthefrank1903 8 ай бұрын

@@mirsh2541 I will say I think they made it very clear that the armor was likely of poor quality. Additionally they cited Tod's Workshop, who had already done the proper test with historical equipment.

@mirsh2541 8 ай бұрын

@@garrettthefrank1903 What most people don't realize though is that there is a big difference between modern poor quality and historical poor quality and the two cannot be equated. As you pointed out yourself, the shaping on this is all wrong, which is already the first means of defence, just see how much of a difference angled armour vs. flat armour makes on a modern tank. The principle is the same, historical plate armour is just all glancing surfaces, while this is completely flat. As someone actually into medieval reenactment/living history, the outfits were a bit jarring too. I know this is just Admin having fun and I'm being all pedantic, but with this setup it was pretty obvious the bows would just penetrate and you gotta be careful with tests like these that might be misleading to people who are not well versed in the subject matter. Even Tod's test had a few methodical shortcomings, though I still like the video and his content overall.

@garrettthefrank1903 8 ай бұрын

@@mirsh2541 I get the feeling I'm probably not as far into reenactment and such as you are, but have a very similar interests. I agree a lot in the video was "wrong" but there was no claim that any of it was correct, outside of the warbow itself, which was accurate, and shot with good form by someone who knows what they're doing. The outfits were clearly a bit on the simple side, but the gambeson was pretty alright, and I didn't see any egregious "incorrect" bits of costume, which at the end of the day, were just costumes. Same goes for the sword which was obviously not the highest quality piece, but again they aren't claiming it was. This was a fun video, that doesn't outright claim to be a historically accurate test, and points to a proper test done by someone who knows more about the subject matter. As far as modern poor quality and historical poor quality goes, the armor in the video is clearly a piece of garbage, however, modern garbage still has some advantages because of machines and better materials. It's likely the worst medieval armor possible was far worse than this example, but the average armor from the time period was far superior to this. For their tests, if a farmer was given a damaged harness, that didn't fit him, and wasn't very well made to begin with, it probably would have been as about as effective as the armor was in this video. If people see this video, and gain the misconception that historical armor was useless, because this ebay steel couldn't stop an arrow from a warbow at close range, that's entirely on them for being an idiot.

@mirsh2541 8 ай бұрын

@@garrettthefrank1903 Unfortunately a lot of people are indeed idiots or rather don't know any better and will absolutely take stuff at face value or draw conclusions that shouldn't be drawn. You'd be surprised how many people take Hollywood nonsense as historical fact because they'd seen it in a movie. As for the armour quality, it's not about this example being better or worse than historical low quality armour, but rather about it being low quality in different ways and therefore not comparable. The factors that drive cost and as such make something cheaper are entirely different today than they were in the 14th or 15th century. Even the lowest quality plate armour at the time of Agincourt would still be hand-forged and shaped correctly, but probably be a bit rougher in surface finish and not polished to a shine, with varying material thickness due to the forging process and the metal possibly having some impurities as well. Though by that time hardened armour also started to become relatively accessible. This modern cheap stuff on the other hand is shaped like crap and doesn't even fit a human properly, but is made from homogenous industrial steel and highly polished. The properties are entirely different.

@soldi_0443 8 ай бұрын

These history type videos are actually really interesting! A nice change of pace from the usual. Would love to see more

@RonTaggart 7 ай бұрын

I'm so glad someone finally mentioned mad Jack. I had commented on one of TFE's videos asking him to cover mad Jack a while back. Awesome video, love to see another fan of long ows and Todd's workshop

@lordpumpkinhead265 8 ай бұрын

It'd be a neat thing to see how English Bows suffice against modern Kevlar, and if it's possible for bows to pierce Kevlar.

@noahrombough2802 8 ай бұрын

Dash has a couple videos on that. Specifically on IIIA soft armor and a IV plate

@gratefulguy4130 8 ай бұрын

They'd do much better than bullets

@moonasha 8 ай бұрын

they'd cut right through it, anything sharp goes through kevlar like butter

@Del_S 8 ай бұрын

A stab vest should do a bit better since a longbow is just the English love of stabbing rendered into a ranged format.

@tresenie 8 ай бұрын

Similar for sandbags, they might stop bullets but not arrows. Most kevlar vests are not rated as stabproof.

@SnackPack913 8 ай бұрын

I did not expect this collab. This dude has been popping up in my feed recently, I like his stuff

@justinmorgan4568 8 ай бұрын

Super glad you did a collab with Dash! I literally just found his KZfaq shorts like 2 weeks ago. Badass dude.

@koldaris4089 8 ай бұрын

i liked the section where you guys talked about the English longbow and the composite bow used more in the east, One of the things to consider is that historically the composite bows were made using an organic glue that could come apart when wet just something to consider

@justinkochaver4403 8 ай бұрын

Oh yeah, this tickled the 'tism

@ericmitchell985 8 ай бұрын

Just a shoutout to both Arrows Vs. Armor tests on Tod's Workshop (there's a second one with 'mid tier' armor tested, and a lot of small side-tests). Really awesome vids worth checking out if you're into stuff like this.

@avidvacher1356 8 ай бұрын

Holy... this is probably my favorite video of yours. Just guys being dudes, having a good time and some gore (+ history!) on the side. Love it.

@wilhelmschmidt7240 Ай бұрын

Bows are so efficient in so many ways, and people have been using them for such a long time. I started carving bows as a hobby and I have made 6 so far, 4 of them were functional (didn't break while firing) and it's so much fun firing something you made from scratch, bow, string, and arrow.

@sobelowtriplefo5623 8 ай бұрын

this vid was actually a breathe of fresh air i think i speak for all gun guys when i say we love this type of content great work admin!

@kyousuketanuma638 8 ай бұрын

Admin always makes the LARP joke, but this is next level LARP.

@numbsliwa 8 ай бұрын

I really appreciate the use of music in the beginning of this video from Medieval II: Total. It added extra flavor and put a smile on my face :)

@stephenjohnson6841 8 ай бұрын

Another awesome video Dash and Admin! Entertaining and informative. Thanks again!

@OregonianPlinking 8 ай бұрын

Shooting classic style bows is underratedly fun. Shot recurve for years.

@sparkyatlarge 8 ай бұрын

English archers using the longbow ended up literally deformed by the power of the bow. Archeologists have shown that it severely affected their arms, shoulder and back. It's a bad mamajamma.

@FuknKms 8 ай бұрын

"A small price to pay for [Legolas]."

@rule3036 8 ай бұрын

But it does not explain poor English dentistry😂🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

@thebasedspectre3048 8 ай бұрын

@rule3036 at least we don't need mobility scooters to go to the walmart

@Phaedrus143 8 ай бұрын

This. There was an archer I saw on KZfaq years ago that has shot enough that his physiology is a bit morphed from the unique exercise that is shooting heavy warbows.

@BloodyBobJr 8 ай бұрын

Small price..for being a total badass

@eliplayer9347 7 ай бұрын

Such a fun colab! I watch both of you guys and did not see this coming but so glad it did!

@crapengineering 7 ай бұрын

probably the best video you have ever done - loved the history lesson , the whole shoot was just amazing

@dracohunter117 8 ай бұрын

This is probably my favorite video you’ve done! Guns, bows, total war, and Todd’s workshop. Oh my. Managed to check off most of my nerd list in one go. 😂

@DelinkventeN 8 ай бұрын

Our wait is over brothers, 'tis 'ere, the longbow vid!

@ABCKorpi 8 ай бұрын

One advantage of the self bow over the composite bows is its indifference to wet conditions. Glue at that time was water based so when it rained you had to protect the composite bows and couldn't use them or they would self destruct.

@cgw3186 7 ай бұрын

They'd degrade over time too in wet conditions, since the hide glue would slowly weaken as it absorbed moisture and never get to fully dry out. Theoretically it was possible to weatherproof them a bit using a resin and pitch matrix of one kind or another (which was done for sea warfare on some occasions), but even then I suspect it wouldn't last long term in the soggy terrain of Northwestern Europe. It's one of the reasons horse archery never caught on, though why they never made short bows a la the Comanche bow is a bit of mystery to me. Lilac makes a good selfbow (it's actually what was used to make the oldest European bow we've found, or at least one of the oldest - they might have found an older one I haven't heard about, since I haven't kept up with archery archeology for a few years), can produce fairly short stave, and while it isn't as good as osage orange it would have worked, so perhaps it was more to do with terrain...

@viktorthebird6115 8 ай бұрын

Video idea: Do a "modern tactical archer kit". Compound bow, specialty arrows for different foes and missions. And test the effectiveness of that kit against modern body Armour, and the stealthyness of the kit. I loved this ❤❤❤

@icarvs_vivit 8 ай бұрын

I think you put the cuirass on the dummy backwards. It's supposed to bow out in front of the chest precisely to deflect arrows while the back is mostly away from the enemy and can be flatter.

@random_tech_adept6117 8 ай бұрын

also this is costume armour it is not designed to stop anything.

@alexanderren1097 8 ай бұрын

It’s facing the “right” way for what it is. Which is cheap costume as the other commenter said. It’s a very very VERY poor attempt at a muscle cuirass Admin did say it was cheap ebay armor before they shot it. He also said it wasn’t Medieval accurate and was really poor quality several later in the video.

@alexanderren1097 8 ай бұрын

Oops, on second thought you’re right. The armor is on backwards though I doubt it would have made a difference considering that’s not real armor

@Part.No.1xbil.Prod.Tp.MXMVIII 8 ай бұрын

All things considered: It doesn't really matter the quality nor the orientation for this demonstration, as most equipment of the era for common infantry would have been fraught with defects and poor workmanship anyway. You had to be of notable status to commission armor of high quality at the time, and even then; the high quality stuff was made by hand with much of the rough work done by slaves, apprentices, or laymen, thus imperfections were to be expected. Even many museum pieces in the royal armory in London England, considered to be state of the art for their respective times, have funny little "isms" about them if you look close enough.

@Emperor_Diplex 8 ай бұрын

It’s 100% backwards lmao

@derpasstwahtskie2246 8 ай бұрын

I always love old school armor. But it must have been a pain in the ass to get in so many layers tho.

@daniho6223 8 ай бұрын

awesome vid! Love it! Always a pleasure to see expanded topic vids from you!

@MrPresidentJBJ 8 ай бұрын

I really enjoyed this video. Spending more time discussing the history and applications is a great thing.

@RudeSaiyan 8 ай бұрын

if you guys never watched it, Robin Hood (2010) with Russel Crowe is one of my favorite bow movies. Also, Agincourt gets a LOT of hype but for the history bros, look into the battle of Crécy as well. Really really glad this collab video came out, I know it was a long time in the works, Admin. grats man.

@nobodyneedsyou7139 3 ай бұрын

Look into Battle of Castillon

@lucasanderson6063 8 ай бұрын

Administrative Results administrating truly beautiful results, I love it

@rabidkitten01 8 ай бұрын

This is one of the coolest videos you've done so far. I had a fun time learning and watching about other projectiles. Love the nerd stuff. Love the passion. Ate tha brits. Luv me bow. Simple as.

@AdministrativeResults 8 ай бұрын

Simple as that

@axlefoxe Ай бұрын

Most concise mainstream video on this topic super awesome. Hit the big bits of context that usually get missed and made it real and practical.

@autr3553 8 ай бұрын

It would be pretty cool to see an update in the lord of the larps bow skills in a year

@wingsofremembrance2279 8 ай бұрын

Man, I can't say I was expecting this nor can I say I am disappointed. Good work dude.

@hunterbarnett2141 8 ай бұрын

I have been waiting for someone to make a video like this forever!!!

@snakycake4790 8 ай бұрын

it was really awesome to watch this, thanks to you all!

@shanemjn 8 ай бұрын

Ah yes, the bendy stick. The medieval equivalent of the toob

@ry_mcfly01 8 ай бұрын

Dash has a map of the US river system on his arms for veins.

@AdministrativeResults 8 ай бұрын

Bros on google maps mode

@Bbuilt124 7 ай бұрын

dude, its so cool to see you bring dash on the channel, he is super underrated.

@jortmungandr1112 8 ай бұрын

absolutely fantastic. would love to see more series like this

@Soggy_Cake 8 ай бұрын

Dude other than the grade A content the bloopers are the cherry on top of the cake 😂

@jackburton9460 8 ай бұрын

Making a bow is fun and easy learning. I was very surprised at how strong a lil practice ash proto turned out. An Osage orange one slammed a fence post! I use a spoke shave and 1 page article in BWM

@WarheadFPS 8 ай бұрын

Dude the quality of this video is amazing. I love the history lesson i just got

@williamjosephburns1504 8 ай бұрын

I loved this one. Thanks lots to both of ya!!!

@reidjaffer4737 8 ай бұрын

This is awesome! 10/10 please do more stuff like this with ballistic dummies I would love to see medieval weapons and different swords and stuff Love your work admin I know your a “Guntuber” but this is so good and I haven’t seen the guntuber style with older style weapons, was very interesting and great production as always In a long winded way to say plz do more papi

@falcosparverius251 8 ай бұрын

if you want more of this kind of content check out Skallagrim , he did some of this kind of stuff

@stav1369 8 ай бұрын

If you want to see more Warbow tests Tod's Workshop does and so does The Fateful Force. Chrono tests, Ballistic Gel, Gambeson, Mail plus more Warbow tests.

@DomFlan 8 ай бұрын

Bernard Cornwell has a great book series called "The Grail Quest" series about an archer at the start of the hundred years war. Highly recomend listening/reading it if you have an interest in the hundred years war and archery

@AdministrativeResults 8 ай бұрын

YOURE MY ARCHER HOOK

@Cronus111 8 ай бұрын

David Gilman - Master of War.

@garykleinsteuber4529 8 ай бұрын

Bernard Cornwell turned Me into a war bow Fanboy!

@psychoaiko666 8 ай бұрын

You guys realize you had that cuirass backwards on that dummy, right?

@a2b3c 3 ай бұрын

stunning...

@matthewklaus9970 8 ай бұрын

Best video you've made so far... you let your inner geek shine bright and it was both beautiful and entertaining

@paulherman5822 8 ай бұрын

Check out Tod Cutler's extensive testing on armour and both traditional war arrows and other thrown pointy things (lances, spears, plumbata, pilum...) All except the armour traditionally forged, and the armour is traditional period equivalent. Tod has been the armourer of Dover Castle for quite a while now. eBay armour is not the same level. Period could stop period bullets (hence bullet proof. Proof against bullets.)

@tresenie 8 ай бұрын

i'm surprised how wel it still did, even being naked under the armour.

@eirikronaldfossheim 8 ай бұрын

Tod uses modern steel. It has nothing to do with medieval steel.

@paulherman5822 8 ай бұрын

@@eirikronaldfossheim Except for the testing, where he's using equivalent. Modern steel, sure, but the quality is equivalent. In plate, a thickness to duplicate vintage results, milder steel to give vintage response. Almost no one is using different for decent reproductions. Anything else isn't reproductions but sort of lookalike. Like butted vs riveted maille.

@eirikronaldfossheim 8 ай бұрын

@@paulherman5822 No, he didn't. He ignored the test results against the bloomery steel. It was exactly what we expected it to be.

@johnnym7975 8 ай бұрын

Nothing better than waking up after a night shift to a new admin video.

@TheDarkvoid903 Ай бұрын

That Medieval 2: Total War music goes hard

@peteraugust5295 8 ай бұрын

My favorite Admin Video ever. Absolutely hilarious and the two together have a great energy!

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@the_fat_electrician 8 ай бұрын

War Hammers Next!

@plotholedetective4166 8 ай бұрын

good idea for a colab with Scott, Kentucky has been working out and he already has his melon smasher hammer.

@AdministrativeResults 8 ай бұрын

I Like this train of thought

@PolishBigfootCircle11 8 ай бұрын

I can imagine a scenario in which a combination of flintlock muskets and bowman would be VERY effective on the battle field.

@liamkisbee8117 8 ай бұрын

Bows work well, the native american Indians gave the European and u.s army a good run for its money with simple bows and arrows lol

@northernninja3321 8 ай бұрын

@@liamkisbee8117 Native American here, they actually slaughtered like MOST of us tbh 😂

@yoeyyoey8937 8 ай бұрын

Bows are superior to those weapons because of fire rate and range. However the skill curve is much different. Only reason you would have a mixed army is because you needed to bolster your archers with conscripts

@jacobnugent8159 8 ай бұрын

Muskets for breaking charges and bows for getting lots of projectiles down range quickly

@jonathanengdahl9045 7 ай бұрын

@@yoeyyoey8937 Muskets shoot way further than bows. They are also much more lethal and can shoot through stuff like armor and shields. The only thing a bow does better is rate of fire and that is something that can only be sustained during a short while before exhaustion sets in. According to sources from the time when both weapons were used it is clear that muskets were superior in most regards not only for the reason you mention

@user-tt3yt8xo8y 8 ай бұрын

One of the best episodes of Admin! Love it!

@stevejenkins9984 6 ай бұрын

Im sooo glad to see old school weapons tested i wish more channels did this! Its amazing to see where we came from and where we might be going! Since ww3 has practically started and its a supply and info war we may end up back here sooner than we think!

@CYOA03 8 ай бұрын

Dang, He did with an arrow what Brandon struggled to do with a bullet.

@chefyboy2748 8 ай бұрын

Oh hey, it's that shirtless KZfaq shorts guy! Admin knows everyone!

@A_Sailors_Prayer 6 ай бұрын

Imagine sending these two back to the 80’s. Nerds have changed so much and I’m here for it

@IAmSquatch1 3 ай бұрын

Nerd stuff!! Very entertaining as a bow hunter myself. Definitely cool history behind it and had me cracking up. I appreciate y’all showing love for Boromir. Homie took 3 to the chest for us. RIP

@PresidentFunnyValentine 8 ай бұрын

This is easily one of your most enjoyable videos yet, not to say your usual ones aren't.

@mikeorick6898 8 ай бұрын

The distance record for the longbow in Period was about 350 yards with war arrows. That was also the max distance at London's Finsbury practice field (almost 200 targets on 11 acres). The Mongol record at about the same time was almost 600 yards. The world record holder (at 200lbs) Mark Stretton says he can get off about 10 in a minute with a 140lb bow, but not 20 in two minutes. A sustained rate of shooting is about 6 arrows per minute. An archer might go to battle with 1-3 sheafs of arrows (24-72). Re-supply was iffy. At Agincourt the English ran out of arrows before they ran out of French. Much of their killing was done with the mauls and axes they used to make and place the sharpened stakes they used for cover when shooting.

@lscibor 8 ай бұрын

Much of the killing was done by slaughtering captured prisoners, in general. And, importantly by English man at arms, armed with spears and other polearms, like pretty much any heavy infantry. Without them English tactics wouldn't be really possible, while people often seem to imply that English armies were archers alone. There's pretty much no instance of battle of HYW, or war against Scots, where there wasn't some heavy melee fighting, even lightly armored Scots were pretty much always able to reach English lines under arrow fire.

@b.h.abbott-motley2427 8 ай бұрын

Sir John Smythe wrote that some English archers could reach 480 yards with their flight arrows.

@louisryan5815 8 ай бұрын

It should be noted (as stated in this video) recurve bows, like the Mongols', are generally able to project arrows further, not because they are more powerful, but because they aren't so powerful as to snap the lightest arrows with their momentum alone. An English Longbow needs a *heavy* strong arrow that will not break under comparably heavy draw weights and thus cannot match distance for the world record. However, if you are looking to kill a man with an arrow, you need heavier stuff than what is used for distance shooting. The English Longbow still generally outclasses it's counterparts when utilizing arrows that would really matter on a battlefield like Agincourt.

@mikeorick6898 8 ай бұрын

@@louisryan5815 And they still managed to lose at Patay, Formigny, and Castillon on the way to losing the war. There are "recurve" bows that can shoot heavier arrows as well or better than the longbow if that's what you want to do. The Tartar and Manchu bow for example. The Tartar bow Karpowizc made for Joe Gibbs shoots the same heavy arrows faster and further than his longbow does. Manchu arrows are longer and heavier than anything the English ever loosed. There is more than one way to skin cats, kill men, win battles, and build empires. The longbow did the job the way the English wanted it done with less hassle in the making. It could not have done the job the the Huns, Mongols, Mamluks, Timurids, Ottomans, Ming, and Manchu wanted the way they wanted it done. It did that job quite well with lighter bows and arrows. Hattin, Kalka River, Legnica, Mohi, La Forbie, Mansurah, Nicopolis, Varna, Mohacs... all archers eventually fell to powder and shot.

@lscibor 8 ай бұрын

@@louisryan5815 Composite bows generally WERE more powerful and were more efficient with light arrows, that's why they could send them faster, and, in result, much further. Longbow won't snap the light arrow, it may snap itself though, because with light enough arrow, it's getting dangerously close to dry shot. There was plenty of very heavy weight composite bows too, so not sure like you're inferring that longbows were the only heavy bows with heavy arrows. Chinese records about archers training and examination mention exceptional archers spanning 240 pound bows, althought it's not clear whether they could actually shoot something that heavy somewhat accurately. Saracen/Arab sources mention that around 160 g (2500 grain) arrow is upper limit of weight per arrow, but they indeed specifically mention that heavy arrows are a much against armor. For some numbers, Adam Karpowicz 125 pound Turkish hornbow shot 203 grain arrow with impressive velocity of 357 fps. With selfbow, like longbow, even the best one, it would be pretty pointless and dangerous, the velocity likely wouldn't be much greater than with 500 g arrow.

@aidanclaproth1896 8 ай бұрын

This is a phenomenal video. Great job admin. Came a long way bro

@robixcube3373 7 ай бұрын

What an awesome video!!! Loved the history behind the longbow! Maybe you can make another channel or a channel folder with historical wep reviews!

@darkfire3441 8 ай бұрын

I don't know how well this video will do, but I'd love to see some more medieval stuff like this!

@dallenhumpherys7911 8 ай бұрын

Just remember that this is not at all a historically accurate breastplate (and Admin never said it was). I would recommend watching not only the arrows vs armor Tod’s workshop video mentioned, but his arrows vs armor 2 series of videos.

@eirikronaldfossheim 8 ай бұрын

The armour in Tod's films are made of modern steel. The armour in the first film is AISI1050, the armour in the second film is work hardened mild steel with 0.2% C. They are both analogs for top quality slack-quenched medieval medium carbon steel produced in a blast furnace and then going through fining. About 2/3 of surviving armour from the period is made of bloomery steel or wrought iron. Bloomery steel has a fracture toughness of 180-210 kJ/m^2. The modern mild steel they used for armour has a fracture toughness of 246 kJ/m^2. When this is work hardened it will increase with around 20%, so now the fracture toughness is around 295 kJ/m^2. Tod outright ignored the test results against the bloomery steel in the comparable test when the arrow penetrated 13cm. The reason he thought that it should do better than what it did has to do with the wrought iron they used. This was wrought iron produced using an adjustable electric fan and a thermometer to get a top quality product. Medieval armour made of wrought iron has a higher percentage of slag inclusions than the test pieces in the comparable test. It's not a scientific test.

@louisryan5815 8 ай бұрын

@@eirikronaldfossheim I thought they used worse quality steel than that?

@eirikronaldfossheim 8 ай бұрын

@@louisryan5815 Who? Tod? In that case, no. It was very good quality. At first they didn't even know what grade of mild steel they used. Think about that for a few seconds. They didn't know! They wanted to fit the choice of material for the armour to the comparable test, rather than use the results from the comparable test to choose the correct material for the armour. And when the comparable test didn't fit the choice of material for the armour, Tod just ignored the results. Just flat out ignored it. Tod's test has nothing to do with science. The only reason people think it does, has to do with the professional film crew, its professional look and some big names. It's misinformation on a grand scale. A glorified backyard tests.

@louisryan5815 8 ай бұрын

@@eirikronaldfossheim but the professional smith they got to make it was brought on specifically for the exact purpose of recreating it in the same fashion as medieval smiths, which would also lend itself to mystery as to the quality of steel.

@eirikronaldfossheim 8 ай бұрын

That's argumentum ad verecundiam, or argument from authority, a fallacy. I can assure you that he is not an expert on metallurgy, and does not show why he chose the steel he did in terms of steel quality. That's what they wanted to justify with Tod's comparable test. They failed! Neither has he been able to justify it through historical examples. I have full overview of historical examples from the time period in question examined by Alan Williams and what research has to say about those pieces of armour. It is: 14 wrought iron (23.73%) 24 low-carbon steel (40.68%) 14 air-cooled medium carbon steel (23.73%) 7 hardened medium carbon steel (11.86%) Here you can see that 64.41% is poor quality, almost 2/3. They wanted to reproduce a specific helmet of low-carbon steel, Wallace Collection A 69. He did try to make an argument about inventories showing us that they had steel armour for the most part, but this is not in contradiction to the surviving samples. Of the surviving samples, 76.27% is steel, but steel doesn't mean it is good quality steel. Good quality steel was predominately produced in Milan. They had monopoly on the production, and it has a lot to do with the high-quality ore they were using. The top quality Tobias talked about is something we do not see until high quality armour is produced in Augsburg, Innsbruck, Nurnberg and Landshut after 1450. Top quality armour from Italy has been slack-quenched. That means that the quenching has been delayed or it has been quenched in a medium like oil. This will form bainite and some times a mixture of martensite and pearlite. This will usually have a fracture toughness form 300-400 kJ/m2. Full quenching is usually from about 400-500 kJ/m2, depending on carbon content in the steel and tempering after full quenching. Top quality armour from Italy is in that upper region of slack-quenching from 330-400 kJ/m2. Some of it is lower on the scale, but the majority of medium carbon steel has been air-cooled. This will give it a fracture toughness from 240 to 260 kJ/m2, according to Alan Williams. This is what the armourer would have ended up with as an analog, had he annealed the armour to remove benefits from work hardening. When Tobias said that some of the armour from early 15th century was better than the armour made of mild steel for this test, he was of the opinion that the armour was a good analog for low-carbon steel (which it wasn't). When he said there was better armour he is referring to air-cooled medium carbon steel and slack-quenched medium carbon steel from Italy. This would have made up 1/3 or slightly more. Since the armour made for the test was too good as an analog, only 11.86% of medieval armour would have been of the same or better quality, judging by surviving samples. Therefore his argument doesn't hold true, if we take into account that he is talking about everything above the average, which is 50%.

@mrfootfxtish9430 8 ай бұрын

God hearing that medieval 2 total war music really sent chills down my spine. So glad to see more m2tw fans

@zekee1848 7 ай бұрын

Scrolling through the comments to see who else recognized the background music! Lol

@domosrage5434 8 ай бұрын

I was very concerned seeing you doing a bow video, but seeing who your guest was and watching the video, your nerdiness has impressed me. I love all eras of history, and love to see the bow get a little more time in the limelight. Especially in a video that acknowledges fudd lore, even though I know a bunch of goobers are gonna quote this video in fuddy arguments.

@plotholedetective4166 8 ай бұрын

❤ I love the larp. One if my favorite range outfits is my wizard robe of many pockets, never underestimate the power of many many pockets.

@kingnippsseniorgaming6435 8 ай бұрын

I enjoyed this video way more than i thought I would, and Dash was a super cool guy to have on the channel. Definitely would not mind seeing more of the medieval stuff or having dash back at all

@airconditionedrelco7099 8 ай бұрын

the total war music is icing on the cake

@wrongboarders6963 8 ай бұрын

I’ve been waiting for this perfection to drop👌🏽

@GustheGunGuy 8 ай бұрын

Me-bow, yew-bow, re-bow nation!

@unshackledjester 8 ай бұрын

"The armor is weak at the neck and under the arms." Bro immediately catches one in the neck. "... I didn't mean shoot them in the neck, wtf?! Those things are expensive!"