Diesel Foundry Furnace Burner - Part 4

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Mark Presling

Mark Presling

Жыл бұрын

#metalcasting #homeshop #foundry
In this episode,
Making some sheet aluminium collars for the blower tube.
Making the control box housing from extruded aluminium tube.
Completing the wiring of the control box.
Carrying out a fuel consumption test.
How to make a giant matchstick.
Melting some aluminium in the furnace and timing the melt.
Wrap up including what's happening in the next video.
Sneak preview of a future project.

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@Blondihacks
@Blondihacks Жыл бұрын
If we were neighbours, I’d gladly come over and do all your wiring. That’s my favourite part of any project! 😄 Great job on this. I’m really enjoy this series.
@thisoldphoney3448
@thisoldphoney3448 Жыл бұрын
I really hope you getting into casting. Its amazing the strange shape stuff you can make. I made stands so for my 6" bandsaw so I can mount it to a work bench, amongst other things. I'd love to see your trials and tribulations with casting. Once you have finished your steam engine of course. So 2025. Maybe 2026 🙂
@Preso58
@Preso58 Жыл бұрын
You would be welcome to take over that phase of the project. I hate it! I start off with the best of intentions and it soon descends into chaos. Regards, Mark
@tsraikage
@tsraikage 2 ай бұрын
everybody would love to be Mark's neighbor
@grahamlucas6033
@grahamlucas6033 Жыл бұрын
Good series and a great outcome Mark, I hope this furnace will play a part in many future projects, nice job. 👍😊
@thehobbymachinistnz
@thehobbymachinistnz Жыл бұрын
Good to see the machine melting some metal. It runs really well, and melts the aluminum very fast, great job on this build. I like how you fabricated that metal bracket for the air hose, that worked out well. I see the lid stop works nicely. Thanks for the shout out. Cant wait for the float lock vise build. I have had one on my 'to do' list for a while, but there is never enough time...
@Preso58
@Preso58 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jon. It is a vast improvement over the old propane burner but I have been told that I should have run the blower with the propane and used a bigger jet for the gas. I guess the propane burner worked right from the start so I didn't bother to mess with it. I thought all propane burners were slow. Evidently not! The lid stop works great. Regards, Mark
@russtuff
@russtuff Жыл бұрын
This has been fascinating to watch. Thanks for sharing!
@MattsAwesomeStuff
@MattsAwesomeStuff Жыл бұрын
Mark - What I love about your projects is that you take them 2 steps farther than I do. I tend to stop at the "good enough" stage, optimum half-assing. You're not a perfectionist or a glamorist, so I still relate to your methods and goals, but you'll add features and improve fit and finish so that each of your projects crosses over that "janky" line into "respectable". It's great to live vicariously through someone who builds things the same way I tend to, but... better. It's a real treat.
@jackdawg4579
@jackdawg4579 Жыл бұрын
yep, takes things a lot further than I do as well - he is a bad influence, thin edge of the wedge stuff, next thing you know I find myself painting what I make!
@Preso58
@Preso58 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comments. At the end of the day, I have to justify my investment in a lot of the gear that I have purchased, at least to my wife! I must say that the powder coat system is one thing I would never regret buying. The range of colours and textures you can get can make even the worst looking part acceptable. Regards, Mark
@broglet2003
@broglet2003 Жыл бұрын
Nicely done, as usual. The fit and finish is always very good and you present in a very friendly manner.
@donmittlestaedt1117
@donmittlestaedt1117 Жыл бұрын
Excellent job stem to stern. Thank you.
@Just1GuyMetalworks
@Just1GuyMetalworks Жыл бұрын
Like a flaming tornado in there! Wicked! 😃 Well done Preso! 👍😁👍
@Preso58
@Preso58 Жыл бұрын
Scary and hot! What's not to like? Regards, Mark
@andrewdolinskiatcarpathian
@andrewdolinskiatcarpathian Жыл бұрын
I swear I could feel the heat of the furnace here in England! Great result Mark, well done. 👏👏👍😎
@tomcoughlin4287
@tomcoughlin4287 7 ай бұрын
I LOVE IT WHEN A PLAN COMES TOGETHER. Nice work.
@foxwhiskey
@foxwhiskey Жыл бұрын
👍👍 great job, Mark ! Greetings !
@Machine_NZ
@Machine_NZ Жыл бұрын
Hi Preso, excellent result. The service cart works well and makes everything neat and tidy. Melting metal and casting can be extremely dangerous so its paramount to be well organisedand your setup is certainly that... Regards Kevin
@Preso58
@Preso58 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Kevin. I have a lot of respect for the whole process of metal casting. I can be a bit casual about workshop safety sometimes but when it comes to liquid metal I try not to take any chances. Regards, Mark
@DavidR8
@DavidR8 Жыл бұрын
Great build Mark. Really impressive performance increase!
@Preso58
@Preso58 Жыл бұрын
I know, it exceeded my expectations but it has a bit of "personality" and it will take some getting used to. Regards, Mark
@DavidR8
@DavidR8 Жыл бұрын
@@Preso58 When I saw it smoking away like a locomotive before you increased the air I thought whoa, the missus will never go for that!
@richardcurtis556
@richardcurtis556 Жыл бұрын
I rreally look forward to these videos.
@outsidescrewball
@outsidescrewball Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed….great video production/discussion/demonstration/build…….koko
@Preso58
@Preso58 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Chuck. Wait until you see my float lock vice build! Inspired by your version. Regards, Mark
@timothyhoover2121
@timothyhoover2121 Жыл бұрын
Love the "matchstick" lighting method, neat idea. I would suggest checking the controls box after running for a bit of time in the areas of the speed/voltage. They may heat up and burn out without ventalation. A small computer style fan may be needed. Just don't want you to have to do all that wiring a third time! cheers!
@Preso58
@Preso58 Жыл бұрын
I have already made those changes. I ordered a 40mm silent fan that runs on 12V and I have fitted a small louvre panel in one of the end caps. You may get to see it on the next video. Thanks for the tip. Regards, Mark
@MyLilMule
@MyLilMule Жыл бұрын
Your attention to detail is second to none. Maybe Inheritance Machining might be a close tie. I really do appreciate the explanations and even the missteps. You should be proud of this project. I am really enjoying the series, Mark. Bravo!
@SharkyMoto
@SharkyMoto Жыл бұрын
i'd love to see a collab with inheritance machining
@Preso58
@Preso58 Жыл бұрын
Thanks. I have watched a lot of Inheritance Machining videos and he does an excellent job. I really envy his stock supply. Making nice things often means having nice materials to make them from. Regards, Mark
@Radiotexas
@Radiotexas Жыл бұрын
Great job! With the many, many ham radio transmitters, amplifiers and such I have made over the past 40 years I wish I had a CNC router!!! Using a chassis punch for 3" diameter meters in 1/4" aluminum is a stressful workout! What a neat project mate!!! Thanks for bringing us along! We can discuss your wiring off-line!!!!
@Preso58
@Preso58 Жыл бұрын
As much as I deplore the limitations of my little Sieg X3 CNC mill, it does come in mighty handy sometimes. I had used a chassis punch many, many years ago when I used to make my own stereo amplifiers. Remember those 5 pin Din plugs? But a 3" punch in that thick stock would be an Arnold Schwarzenegger workout. Regards, Mark
@LitchKB
@LitchKB Жыл бұрын
Works pretty good! Just commenting on some of the talk about flow/pressure. Flow is relative to pressure against a given restriction (nozzle). So "upgrading to a higher capacity pump", really means just increasing the pressure the pump is capable of delivering at a certain flow rate, and that in turns pushes more fuel through the restriction of that nozzle. The logic goes: - The pump provides different pressures at a certain flow rates - there will be a curve (look up "Pump Head vs. Flow graph"). - The nozzle also provides it's own Flow, given a certain Pressure. It's rated flow (eg 2.5gal/h will be at it's rated pressure, eg. 150psi, increase the pressure, you increase the flow, vice versa), there is no "efficiency" rating as you seem to have assigned it, some nozzles are designed to operate over multiple pressure ratings. - The atomisation (droplet size) and velocity of the fuel from the nozzle will be relative to its flow, but that graph isn't linear - as flow decreases (from pressure decreasing), droplet size increases with larger and larger steps until droplet size is infinite (unbroken flow) is achieved. So when sizing a system, you'll want a pump that can exceed the supply the rated nozzle flow at the given rated nozzle pressure - as you can overdrive them a bit. But, if your pump's max pressure at the nozzle's given flow rate is lacking - and ends up with less than optimal atomisation, then you don't have a lot of play room to adjust - as turning down the pump's duty cycle below 100% will cause droplet size to increase, droplet velocity to decrease, which will coalesce into larger droplets over a shorter distance, create an inefficient burn, and potentially causing unburnt fuel droplets to reach the furnace wall - which is one explanation for your ongoing fuel issue after you turn the system off, the fuel isn't atomising optimally, and you're getting leakage into the concrete - which at temperature becomes dehydrated and very pourous, which will then push some liquid/evaporated fuel back out as it cools. As a side note - you might be able to overdrive that pump a bit, since automotive charging systems often run at 14.4V, that pump will be rated for that - so should be happy enough to run at 16V, this could get your some more head room in fuel delivery. Might also pay to get a pressure gauge on that line, just so you can better inform any further optimistation choices to that fuel system, also makes dialing in "known good fuel/air ratios" a lot easier than eyeballing a knob position.
@Preso58
@Preso58 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for that. I must say that I totally guessed at what I would need in terms of the fuel pump. The nozzle size and GPH rating was suggested by Perry Merrit who built the burner that I was replicating. I sort of anticipated having to scrap the pump at some point once I had been able to verify the burner worked at all. I knew that the 84% "efficiency" thing was misleading but it was more about knowing what the fuel consumption was going to be and therefore the running cost. I have noticed the fuel line pressurising as the pump accelerates. A pressure gauge would be a hand addition. Regards, Mark
@jamesmihalcik1310
@jamesmihalcik1310 Жыл бұрын
What a fantastic series! Really nice build, the ease of using diesel is a real time saver and the convenience is really a big deal. Thanks for the step by step.
@joewhitney4097
@joewhitney4097 Жыл бұрын
Good morning Mark, Couple observations you may want to consider. A) When opening your lid, it stops while still exposing the steel cover to the edge of the inner casting which allows the flame and heat to work on the metal. Bending your lever arm a little would allow it to move out and not allowing the direct flame to ruin your steel lid over time. My past was maintenance in an Aluminum reduction and rolling mill. Our furnace lids, and openings were a high maintenance repair/replacement issue where steel being exposed to open flame and heat. B) Have you thought about an electric glow plug igniter for the nozzle? It could be wired into the circuit power and could be beneficial controlling ignition and eliminating your exposure over the open furnace and limit the amount of smoke and sut getting started. These should be readily available. Home heating oil furnaces are still in use. You've gained a lot of time for heat-up and appears will be pretty economical to run. Great build, I am enjoying your build projects and following along on this project. Thanks for sharing,
@Preso58
@Preso58 Жыл бұрын
I did notice that the lid didn't swing well clear of the furnace interior but I think it will be OK. I can dial down the flame if I need to open it in future. I still need to get used to the operation and peculiarities of this design. I was keen to have some sort of electric or piezo ignition but sometimes simpler is better. Less to go wrong! Regards, Mark
@MrJohnnaz
@MrJohnnaz Жыл бұрын
Float Lock Vise! My favorite drill press vise of all time, been using one for 30 years.
@Preso58
@Preso58 Жыл бұрын
Well spotted. I watched the Blondihacks build but I was keen to have a go at the Wahlstrom 24-12 style with the quick release mechanism. Regards, Mark
@MrJohnnaz
@MrJohnnaz Жыл бұрын
@@Preso58 The one I have has the screw inside the tube, but it doesn't have quick release mechanism. Mine is made by AMF, American Machine & Foundry I think they owned Harley-Davidson for a while. The threaded key got bad and I had to re-do it, luckily it's just a standard 60 degree V thread 7/16-14 maybe. They made one for Vertical bandsaws as well.
@donnykiofetzis5775
@donnykiofetzis5775 Жыл бұрын
top job Preso
@iteerrex8166
@iteerrex8166 Жыл бұрын
Looking and working great. The drill press clamp looks like a nice design. Looking forward to it 👍
@Preso58
@Preso58 Жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@Bigredkarl
@Bigredkarl Жыл бұрын
My only change would be to make the fuel canister metal and maybe put metal dryer duct hose in replacement of the plastic one as well. Great job
@MrLukealbanese
@MrLukealbanese Жыл бұрын
Looking good Mark😊😊
@ccbproductsmulti-bendaustr3200
@ccbproductsmulti-bendaustr3200 Жыл бұрын
Nice job 👏👏 Cheers Chris
@technobabble_
@technobabble_ Жыл бұрын
This thing is looking great. I've made about a dozen natural gas kilns and there's a lot of similarities here. I get my higher temp refractories from Morgan Thermal Ceramics. They have 5 locations across Australia. I use their Cerachem and Cerachrome line, but you can pick which ever you want to get you to the temps you need. Don't go over the rated temp like some people in the comments suggest because the surface will vitrify and harden and flake off. That'll be a major issue with all that whirling wind. The other thing i noticed is the black soot flaking off in places. That's from incomplete burning, obviously. My suggestion would be to dial back the fuel until no flames are coming out of the top at all. All of that fuel is wasted and it's a sign of incomplete burning in the chamber. I would also like to see you put a ceramic coated pyrometer in there. They're cheap and with the ceramic over them they will react more slowly, the way the crucible itself does. Do some ladder testing: 50% fuel maxes out at X temp and simply won't get any hotter, 60% maxes out at Y temp, etc. Only increase your fuel when you're getting close to them and you'll get the very most out of fuel and you should see a lot less of that flaky black soot and hopefully won't have any burning at the bottom when you're done.
@janhemmer8181
@janhemmer8181 Жыл бұрын
I was waiting for the flame to turn blue.
@Preso58
@Preso58 Жыл бұрын
I do have a pyrometer for checking the melt temperature but it gets dipped directly into the crucible. I bought another K type thermocouple but it has the short threaded sensor which wasn't suitable for dipping into the molten metal. I will look into your suggestion. The black soot deposits were a bit of a surprise to me too. I am going to need a lot more time to get used to the "personality" of this burner. I am just happy that it works and that it is quicker than the old propane burner. I am sure there is a lot of scope for optimising the whole system. Regards, Mark
@t0mm96
@t0mm96 Жыл бұрын
Easiest way to put out the torch is to have a container filled with diesel, and then submerge it. Then it is always nice and soaked with diesel next time you use it.
@Preso58
@Preso58 Жыл бұрын
If only I had sealed the bottom of that tube that the torch sits in! However, the wick seems to hold a lot of fuel anyway. Regards, Mark
@jaybailey3518
@jaybailey3518 Жыл бұрын
Very impressive ! Thank you !
@StripeyType
@StripeyType Жыл бұрын
I really very much like your Service Cart, and while I'd considered doing something very like it, you've really helped me make up my mind that it's something I need to do before Fall this year. Especially with my kids around, having the whole foundry arrangement as something I can easily put away and which will remain tidy during operation as well as in storage is both safer for all of us and a good behavior to model for them, frankly. Your matchstick is a stroke of genius!
@Preso58
@Preso58 Жыл бұрын
And, you can do a spot of fire twirling! Regards, Mark
@StripeyType
@StripeyType Жыл бұрын
@@Preso58 Now *there's* something to teach the kids...
@inspector1794
@inspector1794 Жыл бұрын
Another great project done well and explained well. I was thinking your air hose connections might be 3D printed bayonet or 1/4 turn quick disconnects. Instead of cutting a hole in your tank for the fuel pump, maybe a metal plate to fit the fill opening with the pump attached and another 3D printed part, a nut, like the cap, to hold it in place. Fewer holes to worry about in the tank. Good job! Thanks for sharing.
@Preso58
@Preso58 Жыл бұрын
Thanks. I am starting to rethink the fuel pump connection issue. Another viewer has made a similar suggestion. Luckily, I haven't committed to cutting any more holes in the tank so you may see a dramatic change of plan in the next video. Regards, Mark
@inspector1794
@inspector1794 Жыл бұрын
@@Preso58 Thanks for the reply I enjoy your content, thanks for sharing.
@gregfeneis609
@gregfeneis609 Жыл бұрын
Really cool. Another fine project, Mark. Seems like you got close to the nozzle rating. I bet that nozzle delivery rate assumes a certain temperature of the fuel. A higher fuel temp would make it less viscous and flow more at a give pressure. Regarding the continued burning after shutting down, if the level of liquid fuel in the tank is above the nozzle in the burner, and there's no check valve obstruction to overcome, fuel will likely continue to flow, even when the pump is shut down. As the fuel reaches the burner area, it warms up in the tube and likely flows really easy out of the nozzle at that point. A very light spring loaded blow back valve might offer just enough restriction to stop flow when the pump is off yet not cause enough of an impediment to affect burner operation.
@Preso58
@Preso58 Жыл бұрын
I think I have found the reason it continues to burn. There is a small check valve built into the pump and the fuel line pressurises during the burn phase. Once the pump is shut down electrically, the pressure in the fuel hose continues to push fuel out of the nozzle. I did forget to turn off the tapered plug valve at the burner end and that is something I will have to get used to doing at the end of the melt. Hopefully, I will have more to say about it in the next video. Regards, Mark
@dale9896
@dale9896 Жыл бұрын
Nice job mate 👍
@powerbuilder0510
@powerbuilder0510 Жыл бұрын
don't forget some vent holes, those switch mode power supplies last longer when they are not hot
@Preso58
@Preso58 Жыл бұрын
Fixed! I am in the process of fitting a louvre vent to one end and I have ordered a 40mm 12V fan for the other end. Regards, Mark
@vachikl
@vachikl Жыл бұрын
So much wisdom in few hours, beautifully edited, thank you, looking forward to next video
@robroysyd
@robroysyd Жыл бұрын
Mark, if in future you need to get 240V AC in and out of a box use the IEC13 plugs and sockets. They take up way less space and Jaycar sell them. They also avoid having trailing leads which are just one more thing to wrangle. The IEC13 power inlet can be had with a switch, a fuse and a neon indicator.
@Preso58
@Preso58 Жыл бұрын
I have used those IEC3 plugs before on my laser cutter/engraver and my CNC controller. Unfortunately, the nearest Jaycar to me is now 45 minutes away. There used to be reseller very close by but they sold up. Jaycar also charge what I consider to be outrageous shipping fees. Remember the good old days when you could buy all that stuff at Dick Smith? Regards, Mark
@robroysyd
@robroysyd Жыл бұрын
@@Preso58 Yes, I remember the good old days when DIck Smith and Jaycar were a short walk away from one another and both were very close to where I live. I needed a lot of both inlets and outlets for a big lighting job so bought from Ali, cheaper by the 100 but I'm still trying to give the darn things away. The other alternative is just an outlet which you can buy at electrical trade suppliers. Bunnings stock them. They come in both surface and s\flush mount. All approved for use i behind appliances where having a switch makes no sense .
@mrimmortal1579
@mrimmortal1579 Жыл бұрын
Great video, Presso! Unfortunately, my wife still says “No.”, so I’ll just have to be content watching you use yours.
@happitussi
@happitussi Жыл бұрын
Greetings from Finland. I really enjoy your videos Mark and truly appreciate that you share your expertise to everyone. I believe that many, many people me including are inspired by your projects and your know how. Thanks, Mark!
@d.jensen5153
@d.jensen5153 Жыл бұрын
That's how my daughter got from Honolulu to Oakland last week.
@patrickmuleega1506
@patrickmuleega1506 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the good research I love to make the same
@philmenzies2477
@philmenzies2477 Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the next vid and the changes, (maybe 😉 )
@Preso58
@Preso58 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, there will be no real changes in content or delivery but I am in the process of monetising the channel since KZfaq is going to insert advertising anyway and I am planning to donate any income to a wildlife charity. Regards, Mark
@scroungasworkshop4663
@scroungasworkshop4663 Жыл бұрын
Well done Mark. That’s an impressive build and I certainly gained a lot of useful knowledge from it. It’s interesting to me that it looks like you’re going to be making some clamps. I collect Australian made G clamps and have made a pattern to cast my own, first in aluminium and if that’s successful then brass. First though I’m trying my hand at lost wax casting to make an aluminium Michelin Man. I’ve made the silicone mould and the first wax copy has come out well so next is the plaster mould and so on. I’m really enjoying your channel. Cheers Stuart. Canberra.
@Preso58
@Preso58 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Stuart. One day I will have a go at lost wax casting. We did a bit of it when I was at college and we had a centrifugal casting machine for making jewellery. It was terrifying to use but we only melted pewter. However the potential for flinging molten metal everywhere was not zero! The clamp design is as close as I can get to the original float lock vice with the quick setting mechanism. Blondihacks made the type with the long feed screw but that mechanism requires a lot of cranking to fully open it. It may not work but I have 3D printed some mockups and I will test it before committing to metal parts. Regards, Mark
@scroungasworkshop4663
@scroungasworkshop4663 Жыл бұрын
@@Preso58 Of course it will work, I’ve never seen you fail. It’s all a learning curve and that’s what makes it interesting. 👍👍👍
@larryschweitzer4904
@larryschweitzer4904 Жыл бұрын
Great job! The 3D printed parts really make it look professional.
@jaynarr1
@jaynarr1 Жыл бұрын
The duct end covers are a great idea, and beautifully executed
@darrenconway8117
@darrenconway8117 Жыл бұрын
Nice. Mine is still in parts. I have purchased a misting oil spray nozzle complete with air spinner/bracket and high voltage ceramic igniter as a unit. I also purchased a Japan nippon electromagnetic pump VSC90A5. All of this from Aliexpress. I like your setup but not the plastic fuel tank. A splatter of hot metal could melt a hole and spill diesel everywhere. I have a steel Jerry can with a modified pourer. I will use fuel hose protected with stainless steel braid, and a metal can fuel filter. A lot of the heat applied to the crucible is radiant heat from the furnace walls. Reducing the thermal mass of the furnace will reduce heating time. I plan to melt iron. Good to follow behind your project.
@Preso58
@Preso58 Жыл бұрын
Thanks. I have some of that stainless steel braid and I can fit it over the hose but I am sort of stuck with the tank for now. I could fit a stainless steel cover over the top surface though. I found an AliExpress seller that had all the items you have for your system. Regards, Mark
@darrenconway8117
@darrenconway8117 Жыл бұрын
@@Preso58 Being an electronics engineer I will be avoiding electronics in my version. The electric pump pressure is mechanically adjustable and I have an all-metal pressure gauge that I will use while regulating fuel flow. The nozzles don't work well at low pressure so if needed, I will make an adjustable pulsed flow regulator, mechanical of course. This will supply fuel at full pressure, but regulate flow by PWM. I plan to regulate air flow with a sliding sleeve over the burner pipe. The blower will run at 100% but air flow to the nozzle will be controlled by sliding the sleeve to cover/uncover holes in the pipe. Surplus air will bleed off. I suspect the problem you have with burning after fuel shut off is because of fuel absorbed into the furnace refractory lining. Flame impingement on the lining is not a good thing. I plan to enlarge the inner diameter near the base of the furnace to give plenty of room for the flame to develop.
@Rustinox
@Rustinox Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised how quick it can melt aluminium. That's fast. And indeed, that was a quick sneek peek
@Preso58
@Preso58 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Michel. I must say I was pleasantly surprised at how quickly it melted that stock. I don't need to set aside a whole morning to make castings any more. Regards, Mark
@ScottDube1
@ScottDube1 Жыл бұрын
Great build Presso! Enjoying the methodical way you build stuff! Don't change too much!
@MattysWorkshop
@MattysWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Gday Preso, absolutely brilliant result, im amazed how quick that melted the aluminium, cheers
@Preso58
@Preso58 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Matty. I was just glad it worked at all. Regards, Mark
@TheDistur
@TheDistur Жыл бұрын
Really satisfying to see it evolve with all the slots and holes in that enclosure.
@localbroadcast
@localbroadcast 9 ай бұрын
I was watching it heat up and he dialed in the air mix and got it looking quite good of a burn, then @30:47 only moments later, he decides to DIAL UP THE FUEL!! flames start spewing out the top, bright orange and yellow flames too!! If the burning isn't happening inside the kiln, it isn't heating anything up either. Keep the flames inside and the air dialed in correctly so you get as complete of combustion as you can... not sure if you'll ever get blue torch going with your burner design but do your best to make damn sure there's no black smoke being produced... or any smoke produced at all for that matter! Anyhow you've got a real decent looking piece of kit there now and I'm sure you're going to have a blast melting all kinds of metals with it. Have fun and keep on posting the vids!
@Preso58
@Preso58 9 ай бұрын
To be fair, I had almost zero experience with the whole setup when I made that video. It does take time to get to know the system and how it behaves. I have since dialled in the settings and I can get it to burn lean with little to no smoke and soot. Regards, Mark
@imkds55
@imkds55 Жыл бұрын
Great series, as usual Presso. Never would have considered diesel fuel for this situation, you've expanded my horizons!
@Preso58
@Preso58 Жыл бұрын
I must say I was very sceptical when Perry Merrit first floated the idea of using diesel and trying to atomise it without compressed air but now I am a convert. I think the key is to buy a well engineered nozzle. Regards, Mark
@howder1951
@howder1951 Жыл бұрын
Great work with a beautiful fit and finish, I can barely wait to see a heat from start to finish, enjoyed. cheers!
@nicholasviney5975
@nicholasviney5975 Жыл бұрын
it's probably changed now as heating in the UK is fully metric but back when I started in the heating industry nozzle ratings were met at 100 psi fuel pressure. You had a limited amount of output adjustment by bumping up the pump pressure but that did give you better atomisation and a cleaner burn providing all the other settings were correct. There was also a ball and spring in the burner arm acting as a pressure cut off so the burner did not pee fuel and continue a dirty burn after the pump was shut down.
@Preso58
@Preso58 Жыл бұрын
I think Perry Merrit tried to replicate the spring loaded check valve at the nozzle end of the line but he told me it failed prematurely. He told me to just put a plug valve in the line instead. I have done that but I forgot to shut it after I turned the pump off. Hopefully I'll get it right next time. Regards, Mark
@BendigoMaintPlus
@BendigoMaintPlus Жыл бұрын
Love it, thank you.
@barrycaudle9926
@barrycaudle9926 Жыл бұрын
There are proper fittings and clamps to suit different sizes of flexible hose. The tube fittings have a turned up flange and they are clamped together with a rubber lined cam close clamp. I have used them in different sizes on a couple of projects.
@Preso58
@Preso58 Жыл бұрын
Another viewer had told me the name of the type of clamp to search for and I found a supplier. I knew that there would be something ready made that would do the job but it would have meant a three hour round trip to get them or I would have to order them online and wait forever to get them. I can be impatient that way! Regards, Mark
@yvesdesrosiers2396
@yvesdesrosiers2396 Жыл бұрын
Like usual Mr P you always impress!!! Nice build and I like it when you explain what you are thinking as you build. Thank you so very much!!!! Cheers
@throblet
@throblet Жыл бұрын
Excellent! There’s quite a lot of chunky heat sinks on the components in the control unit so would you run a heat soak test at various pump and blower settings and check the working temperature in the control unit with the ends on? May need some airflow holes or even a small fan when running for longer periods or in the depths of the Australian summer 😀. Here in Yorkshire, heat is rarely a problem…
@Preso58
@Preso58 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, I have reworked the end covers to include a 40mm 12V silent PC fan and a louvre vent. You should be able to see the upgrade in the next video. Regards, Mark
@ronaldnickell6110
@ronaldnickell6110 Жыл бұрын
Grate edition to the furnace. Looking forward to the next edition. Would like for it to be a little sooner, but life gets in the way, so we get it. Thanks for sharing.
@paularbon1093
@paularbon1093 Жыл бұрын
Excellent work Mark and a very enjoyable series. I look forward to seeing some castings in future videos.
@olivier2553
@olivier2553 Жыл бұрын
The tab to locate the lid, I would have it on the lid instead of protruding from the body of the furnace. Less risk of grabbing onto something if the tab points down and is not on the lip of the furnace, no risk that the bottom of the crucible bumps into it when you are retrieving a crucible full of molten metal.
@mrimmortal1579
@mrimmortal1579 Жыл бұрын
Sure, NOW you tell him…. 😅
@RookieLock
@RookieLock Жыл бұрын
Very nice!! Great work on this project Mark !
@mattymcsplatty5440
@mattymcsplatty5440 Жыл бұрын
How have u not 100k subs yet? Underated channel in the algorythm for sure. Learn so much from you Preso. Very good series and very informative too. Stay amped!!
@Preso58
@Preso58 Жыл бұрын
Thanks. My little KZfaq counter on my desk shows that my subscriber count is still growing so that's good enough for me. Regards, Mark
@youneskwayber3898
@youneskwayber3898 8 ай бұрын
I gave you a thumbs up because you are old and still working
@Preso58
@Preso58 7 ай бұрын
Well, I'll take that as a compliment then 😁 Regards, Mark
@garychaplin9861
@garychaplin9861 Жыл бұрын
Good to see such a successful outcome. Well done Mark.
@petepeterson4540
@petepeterson4540 Жыл бұрын
this will be epic
@tobhomott
@tobhomott Жыл бұрын
Awesome! Looking forward to seeing the upcoming casting projects.
@leathermanTK55
@leathermanTK55 Жыл бұрын
Nice work Mark. Great video as usual.
@peterwooldridge7285
@peterwooldridge7285 Жыл бұрын
What a great series this has been...
@traindriverluke
@traindriverluke Жыл бұрын
Great video, not sure if you mention it, but I would recommend adding some air ventilation for the electrical box for cooling. You could add air slots in the 3d printed ends.
@Preso58
@Preso58 Жыл бұрын
And that is done! I have fitted a small 12V fan and a vent on the electrical enclosure. You will see it in the next video. Regards, Mark
@swdweeb
@swdweeb Жыл бұрын
its remarkable how similar our furnaces behave. I felt I could have been watching mine during the lighting, melt, and residual fuel flame thingy. Looking forward to the final fit and finish.
@Preso58
@Preso58 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Perry. I have been working on a few improvements today. There are a lot of really good suggestions coming out of the comments. Regards, Mark
@NathanNostaw
@NathanNostaw Жыл бұрын
That's one very nice looking setup. Next time you need to make the wick torch use exhaust heat wrap. Back in my fire twirling days we were too cheap to buy the good fire staff wicks and used exhaust heat wrap. Lasts for ages and only really breaks down due to dropping and abrasion.
@Preso58
@Preso58 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip! Regards, Mark
@NathanNostaw
@NathanNostaw Жыл бұрын
@@Preso58 im in SE Qld and pretty sure I have some spare if you wanted me to send it to you.
@Preso58
@Preso58 Жыл бұрын
@@NathanNostaw Thanks for the offer. I don't want to put you out though. I probably only use the furnace about 5 times a year. I will see how the hessian tape goes and if it doesn't hold up I will get in touch. Regards, Mark
@lumotroph
@lumotroph Жыл бұрын
Ooooh float lock vise a la blondihacks!
@Preso58
@Preso58 Жыл бұрын
Almost. I am going to try to replicate the Wahlstrom quick set mechanism known as the 24-12. It only has the one bar and a short clamping screw, but you can move the fixed jaw quickly over the whole range. Regards, Mark
@sheph7
@sheph7 Жыл бұрын
another AMAZING shop tool, impressive. I'm surprised you don't need vent holes in the electronics box. Might be a good idea to calibrate and then mark the outside of the fuel tank so you can tell how many minutes of fuel you have. Or, invent a fuel level gauge and program an Arduino to drive a digital read out to show time left for fuel and fuel flow ..... yeah right.
@sheph7
@sheph7 Жыл бұрын
@@dazaspc or like I suggest, just look at the level, the tank is translucent.
@Preso58
@Preso58 Жыл бұрын
I have modified the control box to include some forced air cooling. I don't think it really gets that hot but it's better to be safe than sorry. I must say that restraint is needed sometimes when it comes to adding new features to things that I make. You know what they say, "If it ain't broke, it doesn't have enough features yet". 😁 Regards, Mark
@erniecamhan
@erniecamhan Жыл бұрын
You could also change the potentiometer to a twin pot, then as you ramp up the air the fuel would also ramp up 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
@Preso58
@Preso58 Жыл бұрын
I think it's important to be able to tune the two independently. Once it all gets hot you can leave the fuel delivery as is and just increase the air supply. I have really only used it in the furnace twice so it's going to take a while to get used to the operation. Regards, Mark
@dogsarebest7107
@dogsarebest7107 Жыл бұрын
The way I've always done it, is you clip the wire inside it's sheath of plastic, then fish the end out. Where you see the hoseclamp go over the wire. You clip it there. Then pull the 2-3" of wire out of the plastic tube it sits in. This gives you another 1/2" of plastic width to keep the actual cut end of the metal wire from springing outwards, and lets a hoseclamp work. That's how I've always done it
@Preso58
@Preso58 Жыл бұрын
Thanks. Part of my problem was not being able to get a hose clamp with a large enough range but removing the wire altogether would have resolved the issue. Regards, Mark
@dogsarebest7107
@dogsarebest7107 Жыл бұрын
@@Preso58 It doesn't look great, but it does work! just put 2 hoseclamps on and make sure the first has a bit of tail sticking out
@jimmya4217
@jimmya4217 Жыл бұрын
brilliant
@patrickshaw7983
@patrickshaw7983 Жыл бұрын
A good project and a fantastic result. Have you considered a propane fuelled "weed burner" for lighting, if you have such things in Oz.
@Preso58
@Preso58 Жыл бұрын
We do have them here but it's just another thing that you have to have filled with gas. One of my initial criteria was to have a furnace that was simple and that didn't rely on too many ancillary systems. I do have a little gas lighter that I use for my Oxy Propane torch but it is small and easy to put in my pocket once I have lit up the giant match. Regards, Mark
@seabreezecoffeeroasters7994
@seabreezecoffeeroasters7994 Жыл бұрын
If you want a wider Hose Clamp chase up NORMA as a brand. I have used them on heavy duty Pump Suction lines over the years and should be easy to find.
@TheMadManPlace
@TheMadManPlace 11 ай бұрын
All that soot suggests that the burner is running a bit rich. Other than that, congratulations on a very nice project.
@Preso58
@Preso58 11 ай бұрын
It was when I first tested it but I have been able to experiment with the settings and I can now lean the flame out after the refractory has heated up. The last time I ran it the interior was pure white when I let it cool down after melting some aluminium. Regards, Mark
@nickd5943
@nickd5943 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been liking the burner build. Very nice and it works well. Kinda puzzled about all the soot. Maybe it’s from the impurities in the diesel. I would suggest trying kerosene. But after hearing what your diesel cost! Kerosene would be ungodly! Thanks for sharing and I’ll keep on watching.
@Preso58
@Preso58 Жыл бұрын
The soot just indicates rich running. I need to do a lot more testing to dial in the settings. The reality is that that last video was only the second time I had run it and the first time was just a short test. Things will get better! Regards, Mark
@SharkyMoto
@SharkyMoto Жыл бұрын
hey there are special hose clamps for spiral hoses, in german its called "brückenschelle DIN3017" wich would roughly translate to bridge clamp for spiral hose - that could be exactly what you are looking for! (just googled, they are called bridge clamp in english too :) )
@Preso58
@Preso58 Жыл бұрын
I just googled it too. Amazing! They are made in left and right handed versions as well. I will remember that for next time! Regards, Mark
@srmofoable
@srmofoable Жыл бұрын
You want a bridged dust collector hose clamp.
@Preso58
@Preso58 Жыл бұрын
I did Google that and found a supplier but too late unfortunately. 🙄 Regards, Mark
@theafro
@theafro Жыл бұрын
it certainly looks capable of melting iron, i wouldn't worry too much about your refractory, it'll hold, it's just that it won't last for years if you hold it high temps for days at a time like in an industrial setup. aluminium will only take you so far!
@Preso58
@Preso58 Жыл бұрын
I think you have to be a real man to melt iron. I think I will stick with the wimpy non ferrous stuff. Regards, Mark
@theafro
@theafro Жыл бұрын
@@Preso58 nah, if I can do it, anybody can! it seems scarier at first due to the higher temps but it's all hot enough to hurt if you're not careful. It's the density of the stuff that's the big difference, so as long as your handling gear (and physique!) can handle it, you'll have no worries. Weirdly enough, I wen't the opposite way to most, I started with iron, then bronze, then ali! there's nothing like learning to swim at the deep end!
@08westie
@08westie Жыл бұрын
Hi Mark. I enjoy your projects. If I may throw in an idea for the fuel tank? You already have the pump in there. Why cut more holes in it? Why not fit a gland fitting close the current opening, allowing easier fitting of the gland nut and feeding the fuel and electrical through. How often will you need to pull the pump out? Cheers.
@Preso58
@Preso58 Жыл бұрын
I had not thought of that. I did mount the fuel pump rigidly on a copper conduit today and I was planning on making the flange and mounting hardware for the top of the tank tomorrow. I will take your suggestion on board and take another look at it. Regards, Mark
@jsteifel
@jsteifel Жыл бұрын
Looks great. Change... Change... what change is this you speak of Mr Presser???
@Preso58
@Preso58 Жыл бұрын
There will be no change in the content or the delivery. I have decided to monetise the channel since KZfaq are going to insert advertising anyway. However, I will be donating any income to a local wildlife charity that care for sick and injured native birds and animals. Many people comment on the wildlife shots I sometime include at the end of the videos so it seemed like a good fit for the channel. Regards, Mark
@iron4055
@iron4055 Жыл бұрын
power‼
@evil17
@evil17 Жыл бұрын
Excellent build, vid & series Preso, so when do we add the Turbo!? The “Handle Scandal”, I always thought should have been raised 200-300mm above the cart handle & in the same line so you could open it in either direction & it would be higher & out of the way of the heat exhausting. TFS & a very entertaining few hours, havta check out what else you got. Cheers
@Preso58
@Preso58 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. I am almost finished the next instalment of the build and then I can get onto some actual metal casting. Regards, Mark
@snapo1750
@snapo1750 26 күн бұрын
if you have old cooking oil, safe it... you can safe some money 🙂 first heat the cooking oil for 4 hours to 130C (removes all water), then filter it through a resin 3d printer filter to get all pieces out that dont belong there... buy in a store kerosin, mix it 1l kerosin to 3 liter "remastered" cooking oil and you get the same consistency as diesel, there will only be a 150 degree heat difference because of some chemicals missing, but less chemicals == less toxic 🙂
@dansw0rkshop
@dansw0rkshop Жыл бұрын
32:02 most of your fire is just above the vent hole. I lengthened the burn tube on my diesel furnace to get the hottest part of the fire in the chamber and not just above it.
@dansw0rkshop
@dansw0rkshop Жыл бұрын
33:53 yeah it's not burning right, look at all the soot on the crucible. The diesel needs a longer "chute" to blow through before it enters the burn chamber.
@Preso58
@Preso58 Жыл бұрын
This was my very first experience with the burner and I was still learning to finesse the air and fuel settings. I made some more castings and worked out how to tune the settings better. Once the refractory is hot I can dial the fuel back and increase the air to lean out the flame considerably. The interior of the furnace was pure white at the end of that session. Regards, Mark
@jeffjohns2189
@jeffjohns2189 Жыл бұрын
I built very similar furnace, I use diesel / waste oil mix. It will burn just about anything as long as its clean. I had the same after burn problem turned out the shut off valve was leaking a little when the furnace was off and would soak the floor of the furnace with oil, eventually it burns out. It looks like your setup could siphon from the tank if the valve wasn't closed.
@Preso58
@Preso58 Жыл бұрын
I will be talking about the burn run on issue in the next video. It's an easy fix and it's to do with me just getting the order of operations sorted out. Regards, Mark
@robertwalker7457
@robertwalker7457 Жыл бұрын
very nice project, thanks for sharing. GPO you must have a bit of sparky in you?
@Preso58
@Preso58 Жыл бұрын
No, but don't tell anyone that I fit my own GPO's in my shed. Regards, Mark
@Gin-toki
@Gin-toki Жыл бұрын
Nice way of lighting the furnace. And overall nice build and interresting miniseries :) The residual fuel that burns after you have turned it off, could it be some that has absorbed into the refractory material?
@Preso58
@Preso58 Жыл бұрын
I think it just that there is some residual pressure between the check valve in the pump and the nozzle. I forgot to turn off the plug valve in the burner. Regards, Mark
@standintallish5223
@standintallish5223 Жыл бұрын
Possibly the reason for the flame continuing after everything has been shut off is the Venturi or even Sherri like affect from the flame pulling gas out of the nozzle
@Preso58
@Preso58 Жыл бұрын
I think I have identified the culprit. There is a check valve in the pump which traps the pressurised fuel in the fuel line which is springy enough to act as a pressure vessel. I just neglected to shut off the physical valve at the burner. Regards, Mark
@blfstk1
@blfstk1 Жыл бұрын
Good Show Mate: As per normal. Ain't success wonderful?
@Warped65er
@Warped65er Жыл бұрын
Great video series Mark. I had wondered if the furnace that Martin (Olfoundryman) used in his setup could be mimicked on a smaller scale and you have done just that.
@Preso58
@Preso58 Жыл бұрын
Martin sent me some drawings of his burner design and it was way, way more complex than what I have made. It was a true commercial foundry furnace burner with all cast iron construction and multiple jets for air and fuel. It made my brain hurt just looking at it. At the end of the day though, fuel and air go in and heat comes out. At least that's what you hope for. Regards, Mark
@66stuartwilson
@66stuartwilson Жыл бұрын
Hi I enjoy build videos thanks . Could I suggest that your flame is burning too rich and thats why you are getting the yellow flame and the burning flame after you have turned it off , is unburned fuel in the bottom of your furnace . I have built a simular size furnace using diesel siphon nozzel . This means I don't need a blower or a fuel pump , just a compressor which I already had . It takes about 15 to 20 minutes to melt about 5KG of aluminuim and uses very little fuel .
@Preso58
@Preso58 Жыл бұрын
I guess I am a bit inexperienced with this burner and I am going to have to work with it for a while to discover how to manage the fuel/air mix. It's quite unlike my propane burner which is sort of light and forget! However it is quick and despite the soot, it's certainly hot. I am sure you will see it running much better in future videos. Regards, Mark
@JohannSwart_JWS
@JohannSwart_JWS Жыл бұрын
That pointy finger must have hurt. Can just imagine the language :-)
@Preso58
@Preso58 Жыл бұрын
That happened on a day when I was hot and tired and trying to set some concrete garden edging with a nylon faced mallet. I smashed the index finger and then 10 minutes later I split the side of my little finger open. Many bad words were said! Regards, Mark
@digitizer101
@digitizer101 Жыл бұрын
Mark or anyone really have any ideas on how to cut back on the noise of a foundry furnace? The jet engine sound can be annoying to neighbors when ran for a couple hours. Thanks
@Preso58
@Preso58 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, the only really silent furnace is an electric resistance type. I guess the advantage of the diesel burner is that it is quicker than my old propane burner which means the noisy period is shorter. Regards, Mark
@dsmith7455
@dsmith7455 Жыл бұрын
Mark nice job! If wiring is hidden away, it only needs good integrity not good looks. When you shut off furnace did only pump get turned off? A hard shutoff valve may help. I am suspecting siphoning from tank to burner.???
@Preso58
@Preso58 Жыл бұрын
Yes, I just cut the power to the pump and I wasn't prepared for the back pressure in the delivery line. I do have a plug valve at the burner nozzle and once I turned that off the flame died down very quickly. I think there is a check valve built into the pump which stops back flow so the pressurised fuel has to leak out of the burner nozzle. I am sure I will get these little wrinkles ironed out with a bit more use. Regards, Mark
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