Diezel VH2 vs Tonex, Axe Fx, Headrush Prime, Helix, Brainworx, CB4 & Amplitube!

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Thanks for watching my comparison of the Diezel VH2 tube amp vs 7 modeling platforms and their Diezel based amp sims! The included modeling platforms are IK Multimedia Tonex (tone model based on my amp), Headrush Prime (clone based on my amp), Line 6 Helix Native (Das Benzin Mega amp model), Fractal Audio Axe Fx III (Dizzy V4 Silver 3 amp model), Brainworx VH4 plugin, ML Sound Lab Amped CB4 plugin and Amplitube 5's Vhandcraft4 amp model. Let me know in the comments what your thoughts are!
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Timecodes:
00:00 Introduction
00:36 Important Details And Notes
02:20 Gear And Signal Chain
03:40 Tonex Tone Details
04:30 Diezel VH2 vs Tonex
05:42 Thoughts On Tonex?
06:26 Headrush Prime Tone Details
06:54 Diezel VH2 vs Headrush Prime Clone
08:07 Thoughts On Headrush Prime?
08:51 Line 6 Helix Tone Details
09:19 Diezel VH2 vs Line 6 Helix Native
10:32 Thoughts On Helix Native?
11:14 Fractal Audio Axe Fx III Tone Details
11:54 Diezel VH2 vs Fractal Audio Axe Fx III
13:06 Thoughts On The Axe Fx?
13:56 Brainworx VH4 Tone Details
14:13 Diezel VH2 vs Brainworx VH4
15:25 Thoughts On The Brainworx VH4?
16:04 ML Sound Lab Amped CB4 Baseford Details
16:22 Diezel VH2 vs ML Sound Lab Amped CB4
17:35 Thoughts On The ML Sound Lab Amped CB4?
18:04 Details On The Amplitube 5 Tone
18:21 Diezel VH2 vs Amplitube 5
19:34 Thoughts On Amplitube 5?
Side by side comparison:
20:24 Diezel VH2 Riff 1
20:36 Tonex Riff 1
20:48 Headrush Prime Riff 1
21:00 Helix Native Riff 1
21:12 Axe Fx III Riff 1
21:24 Brainworx VH4 Riff 1
21:36 Amped CB4 Riff 1
21:48 Amplitube 5 Riff 1
22:00 Diezel VH2 Riff 2
22:12 Tonex Riff 2
22:24 Headrush Prime Riff 2
22:36 Helix Native Riff 2
22:48 Axe Fx III Riff 2
23:00 Brainworx VH4 Riff 2
23:12 Amped CB4 Riff 2
23:24 Amplitube 5 Riff 2
23:36 Diezel VH2 Riff 3
23:48 Tonex Riff 3
24:00 Headrush Prime Riff 3
24:12 Helix Native Riff 3
24:24 Axe Fx III Riff 3
24:36 Brainworx VH4 Riff 3
24:48 Amped CB4 Riff 3
25:00 Amplitube 5 Riff 3
25:12 Conclusion

Пікірлер: 187

@SonicDriveStudio Жыл бұрын

In case you were wondering: as of right now I'm not interested in trying NAM. Maybe another time... cheers!

@redkurn Жыл бұрын

When I make a clone, my prime has started glitching them and takes several tries, sometimes boomy and the sag just makes it louder. How do you overcome these issues if you have them?

@masterofreality230 Жыл бұрын

Yea, if you get a chance I think you should try it, I thought it had just a bit of an edge on Tonex when I tried to compare the captures of the same amp.

@JohnWiku Жыл бұрын

By other words, NAM is free, I'm not giving you high quality captures of expensive amps, because no monetisation is possible 😂😂

@KG-wp6gh Жыл бұрын

🤣 Thanks for putting that to rest. Give NAM some time. It seems really cool, but is still very new with a lot of development taking place. Maybe give it a shot when it is more mature and they've nailed all of the features.

@drebrose1983 Жыл бұрын

Are you on tonenet?

@jimbo121 Жыл бұрын

Wow the headrush prime was very good, so is the ToneX. Great time to be alive when you can have tons of high quality amps in a single unit.

@JohnWiku Жыл бұрын

A great leap from 20 years ago for sure 😂😂 Cheap gear used to be so bad, now you can make an entire pro rig with very little money!

@drrodopszin Жыл бұрын

I would love to see more content like this: amps versus their recreations. Great stuff! I'm glad after buying the CB4 it did not suck in comparison to the rest

@lordgraga Жыл бұрын

I LOVE that you added long, drawn out notes to the test. It's definitely a place where you will notice the difference. Kudos.

@ampspedalspickups Жыл бұрын

I'm just constantly amazed how good that VH2 sounds, epic comparisons

@jahjah67 Жыл бұрын

I continue to be impressed with the Tone X. It’s just a bit closer than all the others of its kind. The plug-ins are also quite good. Nice work here, Jon

@roundy72 7 ай бұрын

dude your riffs - vh2 my next amp for sure, can't get enough of that sound!!!

@deans.4705 Жыл бұрын

the Brainworx really impressed me. I have Tonex so I'm already covered.

@robertocarlospinedarosales8888 Жыл бұрын

the best channel that really explains the configuration to sound almost the same as the super fan amplifier of sonic drive studio

@ttbean9491 Жыл бұрын

This is a vid I was hoping to see. Most of those plugins I own, and Brainworx was my fav, of the ones I own. As always, great work, Jon!

@sebrura 11 күн бұрын

DIg your comparison vids. IMO you have nailed the methodology 👍🏻 The good, or sad, thing is that in a mix I bet these would all do the work very well.

@budweiserfroggs Жыл бұрын

EXACTLY the video I was looking for. Thanks man!

@jeffh_77 Жыл бұрын

Excellent video Jon! Would love to see this same style comparison with some of your other amps!

@markjacksonmusic21 Жыл бұрын

In an actual mix you’d never be able to tell the plug-in alliance and tonedx difference vs the amp. Great video!

@Snuff1989 Жыл бұрын

just love these comparison videos!

@SonicDriveStudio Жыл бұрын

Glad you like 'em!

@pcwinstead Жыл бұрын

Love this. More please!

@Lutzifer31337 Жыл бұрын

i m really astonished at the quality of the tonex and the headrush, where only the slight differences in the dynamics give clues, but would be indistinguishable for me in a blind test imho.

@LonelyRocker Жыл бұрын

Really interesting comparisons! Enjoyed that!

@SonicDriveStudio Жыл бұрын

Cheers man!

@ammostockpile Жыл бұрын

Awesome comparison!

@DarioGalesi Жыл бұрын

Well, definitely need your captures (clean, drive, hi gain) of the vh2 for ToneX. Interested in buying them. It's amazing what IK did with Tonex.

@becominghuman3561 Жыл бұрын

The helix one sounded quite different but I actually preferred it to the amp! It sounds fantastic

@MotoRiff77 Жыл бұрын

You are making some good content, everything sounds good!

@SonicDriveStudio Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@Gizmo-st1ky Жыл бұрын

Great stuff as always Jon!! Considering getting a Tonex! But my helix is working just fine haha.

@hannibalbarkas1350 Жыл бұрын

NAM sounds even better and is free. just less easy to use.

@ЮрійДанильчук 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for the nice video! (and sound)) For me: 1. Axe Fx III 2. Tonex 3. Headrush

@scottyn7193 Жыл бұрын

oh yay, one more thing ! got get that Driftwood pumpin soon !! Cheers..

@MetaITurtle Жыл бұрын

Niiiice i didnt know those amps sounded so crunchy!

@SonicDriveStudio Жыл бұрын

Super cr0nchy

@mrchrisbeaver Жыл бұрын

That amp sounds great. The digital amps did a decent job but non of them seem to quite capture the pick attack articulation that the amp was giving

@willtato8778 Жыл бұрын

That legit VH2 might be one of the best things you've bought imo. I'd never sell it if I could produce tones like that one. Love this video concept. The real thing is in a different league to the rest of the models (even the tonex) imo, and at this point, I'm splitting hairs here. Normally I wouldn't fuss about such a small change, but the VH is a special amp that makes special sounds.

@sergejkrynycky728 Жыл бұрын

Hi Jon! Fantastic video! Would you consider making an updated video with Boss Katana MK2 and possibly Katana Artist? It's such a popular amp and I'm sure many would be interested to see, how it's stacking up against some of the other amps you own! Cheers!

@dyonight Жыл бұрын

There's definitely a congestion between 800hz-2khz present in all of the models (except tone x, which is great and just lack a bit of sub lows I think) especially compared to the tone you got with the original which make it sound wayyy clearer and bigger! The saturation emphasis varied a lot too. Still great stuff!

@SimmoPlaysGuitar Жыл бұрын

Loved this comparison, great video 👍 one thing I will say is Diezels have a great master volume control. They sound fantastic at low to higher volumes but damn once you crank the master volume to 1 o’clock and the power amp juuussssttttt starts to saturate the amp really opens up and becomes a different beast absolutely awesome 🤘

@demondrive147 Жыл бұрын

Headrush Prime suprised me! I liked it's compressed sound as much as real deal. Brainworx stuff is briliant! Sure, I am biased haha

@JaredGunstonTV Жыл бұрын

never been able to play a Diezel but it's always been a "dream amp" of mine. Great video man, can't believe how similar they all are.

@lessqqmorepewpew7843 11 ай бұрын

you are a sexy man mr jared gunston

@mkbmkbmkb Жыл бұрын

VH2 > Tonex > Axe FX and Brainworx tied > CB4 > Helix > Headrush > Amplitube. I'm a long time Helix user and a new Tonex user. The Tonex is now going into the loop of the Helix.

@Hagstrom4ever Жыл бұрын

Great comparison Jon, I think that the least accurate is the Helix. Anyway, I have the Brainworx plugin and a 2014 VH4, the plugin is based on a VH4 with KT77 so I think this makes a tiny difference in the overall sound, but not by much. Love the real amp, absolutely stunning. Watching this video I now understand that's not me, the Brainworx plugin has less gain.

@Jonw8222 Жыл бұрын

Yes the power tube difference could explain some of the EQ differences.. I still thought it sounded great though.

@Arufured0 Жыл бұрын

Beside ToneX, only Brainworx get close to original. Thanks for great review!

@SonicDriveStudio Жыл бұрын

The Brainworx one is pretty good!

@picksalot1 Жыл бұрын

The real Amp sounded great! It was in your face, clear, bold, articulate, with good note/string separation. The Modelers tended to sound flat/one dimensional, distant, and kind of blah. ToneX was pretty good, but my favorite was the Brainworx. It was the only one that got close to capturing the essence of the Diezel. I hope in future comparisons and shootouts, you will be able to include the NAM, as it may be able to get closer to emulating the real Amp than any of the other Modelers. Thanks

@joejohnson8966 Жыл бұрын

ToneX was still good. NAM is better but we are grateful he made such an extensive comparison. That is a lot of work to do.

@LucasLeCompteMusic Жыл бұрын

Modeling wise I like the axe fx 3 and Line 6. Plugin wise ML Soundlab and Brianworx were great.

@sickmoshbrah 23 күн бұрын

Glad I bought a tonex one 💪

@falluz Жыл бұрын

My god that diezel sounds insane! None of them could replicate the vh2’s raw distinct boomy sound, the fractal got damn close though!

@markuso1862 Жыл бұрын

The curious thing is that I found the fractal just better than amplitube (much better, because the AT model is unusable, but still worse than basically everything else)

@thedudeofficial69 Жыл бұрын

@@markuso1862 to me, the helix and amplitube are the only ones that really stuck out as being either "meh" or "not even remotely close" ToneX and the fractal were the nicest 'sounding' ones to my ear, headrush prime has a fizzy sound to me (unfortunately experienced this in person as well), and the BW plugin and CB4 are very close as well, but the presence is a touch off, though it still sounds great. Different individual units of amps can have slight variance as well, so it's possible that his VH2 literally just sounds better than the other VH4s that were modeled.

@beatboxbill 10 ай бұрын

The ToneX sounds spot on to the real thing, just a little less saturated.

@junglemast3r 6 ай бұрын

I love those riffs damn dude. Are you on a band or have any music that sounds like that?

@jakedibiase7404 Жыл бұрын

The ToneX sounded almost identical and was much closer than the others to my ears.

@jewgeniroudenko2190 Жыл бұрын

Great video! For me Tone X wins. Will you upload the Tone X model on Tonenet someday? 😍

@scottyn7193 Жыл бұрын

Hey brother ! another great video.... love my VH2 as well... where in the world did you get those shelving units for all the amps ? keep up the great work !

@SonicDriveStudio Жыл бұрын

Just at a hardware store

@babahias Жыл бұрын

The real amp is so punchy and much more "in your face" in the lower frequency spectrum. While the overall sound of most of the models is very convincing, it lacks this feel for me. Of course this is when you compare it A/B with isolated guitars here. In a full mix, I don't think this will make a really noticeable difference - so the question is what you want, your priorities, budget, convenience, ... 😉 Very impressed by the CB4 and especially Brainworx plugin... 😳 The Amplitube's sound is really weak in comparison tbh. Not a fan of the Helix either... And the Axe-FX III has some weird fizzy quality somehow... not a bad sound overall but a bit disappointing if you look at the price.

@theodoros3239 Жыл бұрын

I think that plugins have gone a long way through the years and most (if not all) of the companies have really nice solutions. There are some acoustic differences of course, but in the end of the day how these plugins/modelers can stand in a live concert, or in a mix? Would anyone care about such differences?

@eds4754 Жыл бұрын

great video Jon! The real amp really sounds much better here, kind of disappointing to hear none of the others QUITE capture the magic. ToneX is pretty good but there's still something nice missing.

@SonicDriveStudio Жыл бұрын

It's a really hard amp to model imho

@eds4754 Жыл бұрын

@@SonicDriveStudio I think especially because the VH4 has constantly had small tweaks to the circuit over the years. So even 2 real amps could have slightly different circuits to each other. But yours certainly sounds great, I really prefer the brighter sounding Diezels.

@user-jo5qu9su1o Жыл бұрын

Yes yes yes yes🔥🔥🔥

@SonicDriveStudio Жыл бұрын

Yes! :)

@colinparks619 4 ай бұрын

The plug ins sounded amazing tbh but tone x is a beast

@rectangulardots 9 ай бұрын

Thanks for the video, that was done perfectly. Did you use the advanced (highest quality) capture mode on tonex? It definitely sounds the closest to me but still lacks a bit of that nice character in the lows, especially while palm muting. Still, I‘m always impressed by tonex and it‘s the most satisfactory digital amps I‘ve used!

@SonicDriveStudio 9 ай бұрын

I always use advanced

@rectangulardots 9 ай бұрын

@@SonicDriveStudio thanks for the info!

@tanvarma4169 Жыл бұрын

They all sound pretty good. Which one felt as responsive and in-control as the VH2?

@AnonyBass Жыл бұрын

Please upload this clone to the Headrush cloud. I'd love to try it out for myself!

@Manoj_Galle Жыл бұрын

Very impressed with the Tone X! Is there any chance that you might upload this profile to the Tone X Cloud?

@erenmalcok85 5 ай бұрын

I think the closest result is Fractal, then Tonex. I can't wait to buy Tonex and put it at the beginning of my analogue setup.

@ferna182 Жыл бұрын

yeah they all obviously will sound a bit different but the actual question is how different would they sound on a mix? sure, the raw tracks will showcase all the differences but on an actual recording with an actual band, where you end up removing some of the low end, and a big chunk of the high end, and add bass, drums, vocals and so on I bet it'll be quite hard to tell them apart. Also, on a vacuum, nobody will be able to tell on a recording "hmmm that sounds like an emulation and not like a real diezel". Not to mention, it doesn't really matter if it sounds identical or not, the only thing it matters is: Does it have a pleasant sound? does it sound good?

@jojobizen445 Жыл бұрын

the helix diezel just lacks top end, idk what happened there. i think gain structure is pretty spot on, but idk where all the presence went.

@tylerjames460 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for this video Jon! Your previous comparisons of the Tonex and others were what convinced me to pick up a Tonex of my own. Do you have plans to load your Diezel capture onto TonetNET? Cheers Jon!

@SonicDriveStudio Жыл бұрын

No plans as of right now for reasons...

@tylerjames460 Жыл бұрын

@@SonicDriveStudio capture packs by SDS? 🤔 if so…consider me signed up for preorder

@jakedibiase7404 Жыл бұрын

What is the reason?

@paulschlachter4313 Жыл бұрын

Nice comparison. I've always had the impression that the treble knob on the Helix needs higher settings compared to the real amp. But now I think the sag masks the attack and should be around 2.5.

@400_billion_suns Жыл бұрын

The Helix is definitely missing high frequencies. It’s such a common thing with its amp models that it makes me suspect it’s a DSP limitation, where it just doesn’t have the power to render that high frequency content. The Axe FX embarrasses the Helix here. And I say this as a Helix owner.

@JohnWiku Жыл бұрын

@@400_billion_suns I'm sure this is a tremendously false statement, whatever is lacking, specially in the high frequency spectrum, it's because they didn't add it, not because it can't reproduce due to "lack of power". If anything I'd see that happening on the low end, as the low end is harder to reproduce, never the high end frequencies. If anything, they deliberately removed the very highest end to stop that digital plastic feeling you get from modeling. A proper guitar speaker is rated up to 5000 to 6000 Hz, anything higher is just harsh and wasted. Don't forget that whatever you're hearing through this compressed utube video can still be shaped, it's just a matter of Jon adding whatever you feel like it's missing in the EQ, he set it as he liked it best and that doesn't mean that you can't increase the high end in the mix from whatever he gave you to listen :v

@paulschlachter4313 Жыл бұрын

@@400_billion_suns That's a total misunderstanding of how modeling works. There are plenty of bright models in Helix: Soldano, Revv, Engl etc. Also there are real Diezels around from the 90s that are even darker than the one in the Helix - one of those is modeled in the AxeFx and called Dizzy VH4 Blue. I have an both to compare btw.

@400_billion_suns Жыл бұрын

@@paulschlachter4313 I’m not just referring to overall brightness (which is a vague term that doesn’t identify specific frequency ranges). I’ve been able to identify the Helix in almost every shootout Jon has done because it typically sounds less open in the highest frequencies vs. Fractal and the real amp. For lack of a better term, the Helix sounds “narrower” while the real amps sound almost like a stereo field, even though both are mono, and the reason is the missing frequency content in the high treble. If you listen in good quality headphones, it’s very noticeable. As soon as it switches to the Helix, it’s as if the sonic field shrinks. The reason I mentioned DSP is that higher frequencies are more prone to aliasing, and the way around it is increased oversampling, which takes more DSP. If there are audible artifacts even with the max oversampling the Helix can handle, then chopping off the high frequencies would be another way to “fix” it, but you’d end up with an audible consequence, much like I’m hearing in this clip. I’m not saying for sure that’s the reason why, but it does seem like there is a consistent limitation with the Helix that causes it to perform worse with the highest frequencies vs Fractal, consistently.

@paulschlachter4313 Жыл бұрын

@@400_billion_suns Is high oversampling really important for guitar? I mean sure - if you plug an overdrive pedal between guitar and modeler you'll get some HF overtones. But just guitar? There might be a slight change in the transients and a lower noise floor - but the note itself doesn't contain stuff above say 10kHz. I've measured the preamps' frequency response of both Helix and the two Fractal Diezel's VH4 channels with white noise and it clearly showed a difference in high end response - the Helix is right in between the two models of the Fractal models. Looks like one or two diffenent coupling caps somewhere in these preamps. Peter Diezel has stated himself that he tunes each individual amp by ear. So I think what you are attributing to technical issues are more likely different preferences in choosing amps to model of the different companies. The main difference that I hear between Helix and Fractal as well as my tube amp is that Helix's amp models have quite low 'sag' defaults in comparison.

@vlad_serooki Жыл бұрын

Would be nice to see the same comparison about Mark V vs ToneX/ML5/AxeFX. Interesting how plugins stays against the REAL BOOGIE =))

@rexthornton3019 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video! I wonder which power amp will reproduce the same level of bass tone using a 2x12 mesa boogie cab.

@rexthornton3019 Жыл бұрын

using the Tonex.

@IvansLV777 Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Can you make the same about orange amps? If plugin alliance's orange is as good as diezel.

@mikebush3834 Жыл бұрын

I got an fm3 and ive tried the vh4 model and i could never get it to sound good. My favorite model in the fm3 is the engl savage but im falling out of love with it because for some reason my Fishman pickups dont really work well with my modeler. It gets farty when i do palm mutes. Ive tried everything and i cant get rid of it.

@Osoch Жыл бұрын

Hot damn that ToneX is 99% identical

@kazaanggriawan Жыл бұрын

Is this Tonex capture available for download?

@nevesnow Жыл бұрын

awesome vid Jon! clear winner for me, Tonex, even it doesn't sound exactly the same. In 2nd place CB4. Have you done the capture in advanced mode? Cheers

@SonicDriveStudio Жыл бұрын

Advanced mode, yes

@nevesnow Жыл бұрын

@@SonicDriveStudio interesting! this is the first capture I heard which doesn't sound "that close", but still good enough and better then the other available options.

@400_billion_suns Жыл бұрын

The Helix, as often seems to be the case, is missing the high frequencies which give the sound openness/airiness/sparkle. Because of that the Helix sounds stuffy, and narrower than the real amp. The Axe FX gets a lot closer, with a much better rendering of that high frequency content, which again is a typical thing I hear in other comparisons. It actually makes me wonder if there is a technical limitation with the Helix, where it just doesn’t have the DSP horsepower to render those high frequency details without a bunch of aliasing so they just chop it out. TONEX sounds great as expected, but it’s actually missing some of that high frequency sparkle too. Overall, TONEX is closer than the Axe, but in terms of a fully-rounded amp tone without missing frequencies, I think the Axe is actually the best of all of them. Well, except for the real amp of course. Because that amp sounds KILLER.

@daviguitar2000 Жыл бұрын

When it comes to cloning, ToneX is unbeatable!!

@karolkozak64 Жыл бұрын

btw should one use 44.1khz IRs or 48khz with the tonex pedal as default?

@honestmusicreviews Жыл бұрын

I was hoping there would be a quad cortex version but alas… Most of the plugins sound alright, yet with a shifted MiD point, which makes them a bit muddy in comparison to the real amp. I agree that the Tone X is the closest

@SonicDriveStudio Жыл бұрын

I don't own a QC anymore, that's why it's not in the video

@mikegoodwin1498 Жыл бұрын

I only listened through the helix but I can’t imagine anyone claiming any huge differences from the VH2

@shreder75 Жыл бұрын

I'm really considering getting the tonex pedal. It's almost a no brainer considering it comes with the tonex software AND amplitube 5. Only issue is it won't run any effects you add through amplitube on its own (as i understand it), so using it as a portable headphone device doesn't come without some sacrifices.

@SonicDriveStudio Жыл бұрын

It's a pretty awesome pedal!

@shreder75 Жыл бұрын

@@SonicDriveStudio i can always return it if it sucks or doesn't work out 😅

@redkurn Жыл бұрын

The Tonex pedal is cool, the software crashes for me on windows 10, 11 it’s fine, amplitube 5 sounds muddy And the fake hiss you can never turn off. I’m not a fan, headrush prime love it, my helix stuff love it.

@shreder75 Жыл бұрын

I had an eleven rack, then a friend gave me his headrush gig board. I'm not a fan of how it sounds. I also owned several line 6 products and didn't care for them either.

@ikmultimedia Жыл бұрын

@@redkurn IK Support would be happy to help you with the TONEX software crashing. Runs great on Windows 10 for me and others, I'm sure they can help. We also don't add any "fake hiss" in AmpliTube - high gain amps will have some noise and since we always use the real amp for our gear (including the $145,000 Dumble we bought) we do provide a realistic experience. I hope this helps and hope IK Support can help you get TONEX running well. They can also help you find out why your AmpliTube sounds muddy.

@schlagdog Жыл бұрын

They all sounded pretty great except for the Helix which seems to always suck and the Amplitude wasn’t as bad but not great.

@davidgann3251 Жыл бұрын

The real truth is that any of these will work in a mix. After going through the mixing and mastering process, any differences between these are moot as they will most likely be changed from the original tone.

@hybrydsanity5857 Жыл бұрын

to me the CB4 might sound the Closest, I have many of other ML models I'll probably end up with that one when on sale , I have the Brainworks it's Nice SECOND place, I have Tonex and Amplitube 5 but don't have the Pedal might get that eventually , I do have a original Headrush pedal board not sure if i'm going to upgrade to prime I'd have to get good money for the original it's almost in brand new shape!. Helix is Good ! the THIRD closest to my ears, don't own it , Fractal is ok don't have . I'm curious about the synergy pre amps it's not modeling but they do have the pre amps Hardware of a lot of nice amps including the some Diezels in rack mount form . I guess do it again with the real Diezel VH2 amp , what about Kemper and also the Synergy DH4 model ! and not to forget that Quad cortex that I'm not to familiar with. that would be a bad ass follow up.

@jakedibiase7404 Жыл бұрын

Is this ToneX capture available for download somewhere? Thx

@scammerpaybacknetwork Жыл бұрын

bolo.......i like diezel.... i have a zoom multi pedal amp head sim........i saw the diezel and it is boss/......... solid....bass nice.......rock on............rock will never die 1955 to forever........

@charlesrocks Жыл бұрын

The real thing is visceral.

@SteveRayMorse Жыл бұрын

In modeling, Fractal is still impressive. Killer product.

@AJDOLDCHANNELARCHIVE Жыл бұрын

For some reason it reminds me instantly of the Dutch band "Textures"... maybe it's just the chordy riffs.

@AJDOLDCHANNELARCHIVE Жыл бұрын

The AXE FX definitely sounded closer than the Helix - the Helix had very little high-end... obviously it'd work fine in an mix!

@AJDOLDCHANNELARCHIVE Жыл бұрын

Overall - as an AXE FX II user (looking to get an used Helix LT, for an portable option) - nothing completely captures the raw bite and transients of the original amp, but they all sound very good, and in an mix, it'd be almost impossible to tell once everything has been compressed an EQ'd into place etc...

@AJDOLDCHANNELARCHIVE Жыл бұрын

I mean - some of the best guitar tones I've ever heard have been from units like the POD XT haha... it's all about the performance, then the tone, then the production. Get any one of them wrong, and it'll sound like crap.

@AJDOLDCHANNELARCHIVE Жыл бұрын

Symphony X - Inferno, all recorded on an Line 6 Vetta - absolutely killer sound still!

@negromister Жыл бұрын

Tonex is quite close, eh. As far as the modellers/sims, they all seem pretty hyped in the high mids? I liked the Helix and the Amped the best.

@SonicDriveStudio Жыл бұрын

Most of them sound really good even though they don't sound 100% the same

@youztuber5000 Жыл бұрын

VH2 ftw

@sbrave 3 ай бұрын

Will the Headrush Prime clones work in my MX5 ?

@metalceesie219 Жыл бұрын

could you upload the headrush prime clone please to the coud..

@enginkaplan2317 Жыл бұрын

The real thing is amazing and the real thing is the one that has the best value. what's the real thing? İf on stage and have the large van to carry; the amp İf you are ok with buying used gear and wanna keep 4-5 years and sell it; one of the hardware units If you need to record, edit fast; software All of these sounds are 👍 in the hands of a seasoned engineer.

@mkbmkbmkb Жыл бұрын

the low chugs on the headrush were very disappointing compared to the real deal. Tonex was also a little less satisfying but close enough for rock and roll

@apoplexiamusic Жыл бұрын

15:52 that Brainworx plugin is very good. Except for the IRs it comes with, those are just awful.

@AA-cn2vd Жыл бұрын

I hear some high end disappearing and re appearing during the clip

@masterofreality230 Жыл бұрын

Did you not publish the VH2 model to Tone net? I tried to find it.

@SonicDriveStudio Жыл бұрын

I didn't upload it

@JohnWiku Жыл бұрын

Paid pack incoming 😂😂

@Yxzjvc Жыл бұрын

Would have loved to see the Quad Cortex too :)

@Anonymous-si6py 4 ай бұрын

Well, if you want exactly that Diezel sound, then you should buy that exact Diezel amp. Admittedly, I've been fooled into buying a total of 5 modelers because KZfaq reviewers made them sound good. Honestly, in a mix, you won't hear a difference between a modeler and the real thing. However, the player will definitely feel the difference in attack, articulation of notes, sustain and sag. You have to play differently on a modeler compared to a cranked valve amp. I got rid of most of my modelers and bought a BluGuitar Amp 1. It has an awesome valve sound. It does JCM800, 45 and good clean tones. Of course, it doesn't have the effects and programmability of a modeler but that's why I kept my Ampero - solely for the effects. There are options other than modelers.

@MeTuLHeD Жыл бұрын

1. Tonex 2. CB4 3. Headrush The rest were pretty much tied for fourth with the exception of Amplitube which I didn't really care for much.

@SapperRJMorgan Жыл бұрын

Brainworx all the way.

@rickreddler Жыл бұрын

Only analog is good enough. Modeling platforms - Tonex, Brainworks the best.

@SonicDriveStudio Жыл бұрын

Well, nothing is better than the real thing of course

@80s_kid Жыл бұрын

4:30 I don't like this setting that much even on THE real amplifier, it's too muddy for me when it comes to the palm muted notes. No offense. :) Edit: It's not the most similar to it, but here I liked the ML Sound Lab plugin the most.

@notalkguitarampplug-insrev784 Жыл бұрын

Oh no, no any NAM!!!! Please do NAM ❤

@Sound_Stable Жыл бұрын

It would be hard to get sponsors if you show off a free plugin that competes with ones that might pay you.

@SonicDriveStudio Жыл бұрын

@@Sound_Stable it's not that dude, I make plenty of videos without sponsors. The workflow isn't good imho, maybe it will be in the future though. For my personal use Tonex just sounds close enough AND I can load those into a pedal.

@DarkSkarStudio Жыл бұрын

I am convinced that he will end up using NAM in some video, he is a great lover of the sound of amplifiers and I don't think he can resist trying it.

@headrushG33K Жыл бұрын

Less organic and less tube feel? Out of the box maybe, but here's the solution: Put a para eq after your clone on the Headrush and it will sound even more real than the amp, IMHO

@SonicDriveStudio Жыл бұрын

An eq doesn't magically just fix things

@tomix1970pl1 Жыл бұрын

Brainworx and ML Sound Lab rules.

@fraenkiboii Жыл бұрын

Man as a Tool fan and owner of a Quad Cortex, I've never been more tempted to buy a Tonex pedal. The VH4 model in the QC sucks. Yes, I said it. Sorry.

@SonicDriveStudio Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I'm sorry to say that I agree. Didn't like the Diezel amp models in the QC at all...