😂😂😂

Too true

Its funny, cause they let batwoman go on for 3 seasons

cancel. cancel. cancel. XD

@@yanicktodman6771 oh yeah, CW is so progressive. They let a woman have their own show but not the black guy, typical. Bunch of hypocrites

Lol

I was going to write the same comment, lol

he prolly saw the shit writing coming ahead and was like yeah nope

Faxxx I can already imagine some purple alien with 2000’s cgi and shit😂😂

OMG lol...like DC She - Hulk...

For some reason… I don’t that this was about becoming a green Lantern…. But my gut tells me multiverse when seeing this scene.. even tho it isn’t true

For fan service, Everyone knew that he was inspired by John Stewart Green Lantern, CW could not use John Stewart as they could not get the TV rights to any of the Green Lantern characters or IP, The first idea for Arrow was to do a take on the Green Arrow/Green Lantern comics series just with John instead of Hal for diversity. Because they could not get Stewart they created Diggle based off him but DC had to step in and say that the character was OK as long as they do not tread into GL. this has been said a few time in the Cons. The "Diggle GL" arc is just CW in away giving back to the original fans and John Stewart the character. Oviously it's the best they can do to explain in story why John is not a "Green Lantern" as he was never going to be one on screen.

The CW really intended to make him become the Green Lantern. However, Warner's spin-off and merger with Discovery changed all plans: former planned shows are shut down or halted, most CW shows were cancelled, Riverdale is having a final season, and for some reason Flash was the only show not getting the chop. So that's why things ended up like that all of a sudden

If I was to guess, they wanted to get people hyped and if people are hype enough it could have changed the suits minds about showing diggle as GL.

I think it was originally the plan but cw is canning all the DC shows so no green lantern

He could have been a side character oml 🤦🏽‍♂️😡

@@king_gaming6813 I think Diggle actor was like you ain’t gonna give me my show then I’ll just leave

Maybe they could do Hal Jordan

That's what I figured. When he said no and threw it back into space I realized his show is not happening. Thanks CW for taking Diggle away from us 🙄

@@kapparhotau181 I mean he’s gonna be in the Superman and Lois finale

They keep talking about this Justice U spinoff about him mentoring the next generation of heroes.

sad but true

'' I have seen a thousand lives I could live, not one of them gave me my own fucking show. SO I DONT WANT ANY OF THIS!!''

🤦🏽‍♂️ he could have just been a side character (ether on flash or superman) and could have accepted the ring

fuck yeah 🤣😂😂😂😂

… One time playing devil’s advocate; in this moment he had the equivalent experience of watching someone throw away something they were freely offered, when he would have rather taken the “responsibility” if given the chance. Like, sure, we have all this context that Thawne has come too far to actually _become_ that sort of good character (even when he successfully took over Flash’s very life via timeline shenanigans, he specifically did so in a way to needle at Flash), but purely from an emotional standpoint, he saw someone inches away from taking a golden opportunity and saw them chuck it in the river, when he knows they would have done good with it and been good _at_ it, regardless of his own place in that equation. And when he points that out to them, they have the gall to just go “better me than you.” Of _course_ he’s pissed and goes to insults, his whole _thing_ amounts to “better me than you.”

@@alecLogan You're right as twisted and evil Thawne is he hates seeing people waste their potential and could have been an amazing mentor if he wasnt so Evil. That's why despite how much Barry hates him he went to him for help multiple times throughout the series

"Psychopath" implying Psychosis "Sociopath" implying social apathy A true sociopath wouldnt ever leak there manipulative tactics everything to them is strategy not desire Thawn is a psychopath = the path of psychosis

Omfg they been hyping this up for GOD NOWS AND WONT GIVE HIM A SHOW WTF

The irony is that Thawne would never be offered this chance. Only a handful of people across time and space ever are. And Diggle is now one of those people. It's one of those things where it truly is just as much an honor to be nominated as it is to win. And the fact he rejected it would be respected by those that accepted.

Well, he did train Barry in his first year as the Flash, makes sense!

@@mattb6369 Only for his own benefit too.

Best motivator out there

@@primalvelocity3811 just imagine if he trained him for real though. Not just barely fast enough for his own purposes.

The dude did start off as fanboy so it does make sense that he would be excited to be around the people that he grew up reading about and being the reason why they're heroic

Yea me too and i can’t believe after two years was all for nothing

Ong bruh 😂😂

@@lilred8533 I think it’s time they introduce Harol Jordan

Especially since his full name is John "Diggle" Stewart.

How About his upcoming arrowverse show Justice u maybe there still hope

Like he really had a choice, the suits ruined it.

I mean he is John Stewart so

Don't forget he will appear in SM&L

He would've

Is that even a real green latern stuff and not any different colored lantern item that is pretending to be green...? Sounds pretty ominous to me lmao

From csi to the flash

It's almost 3am and I thought, "huh, it's been two years since they teased Diggle as GL, I wonder what ever happened with that?" And they barely wrapped it up last night - and he never became Green Lantern? What the hell is the CW even DOING?! 😂

lol 😂 bro omg 😆

Bruh that shit got me red hot about that because we waited & waited for just to see him in the suit damn why just why

Fr

@@solomac4067 u gon get red lantern ring lol

@@luisdonoso6154 ha

I was like WTF, "Drink of the Bledd Mandrakk" - that's referring to Cosmic Armour Superman's battle with Corrupted Dax Novu

CW and DC are parting ways, so don't expect anything new from the Arrowverse on the CW.

Pretty much why I dropped CW after Felicity and Friends became a thing. They /clearly/ had no idea how to write decent superhero series.

@@Adanu191 Felicity up to season 2, maybe 3 was fine, but the writers lost their way after that.

@@pogo1140 Olicity should have never been a thing.

Cw didn't expect HBO Max to be a thing and didn't expect to have new owners. Warner only owns 25% of CW with Paramount. Even diggles Justice U show hasn't been picked up. Gotham Knights is the only new show next year because they signed a contract before the merger. Stargirl and Superman and Lois will probably be moved to HBO Max.

It’s like Gotham. They weren’t allowed to use the name joker even though the character Jerome was clearly a version of joker.

not unless the ring comes in time when realizes he needs it.

@@kanekiwhite7827 that's a good idea

@@kanekiwhite7827 that's a Big IF?!

Don’t worry by that time literally everyone will have powers

Wouldn't the ring have found a different host by then?

I just want to say that

Especially because during the Arrow TV Show John Diggle actually struggled quite a bit with the fact that he didn't have super powers and at times was jealous of the fact that Oliver got to be the Green Arrow. It wasn't until he finally dealt with his younger Brother's sins/death that his character truly stepped into the mentor role and he become a family Man.

After this weeks Flash episode, this has comment aged beautifully!

Reverse flash break the fourth wall

Why the tf did the ring not shoot up in the sky and leave him, surely the ring would know and go to another suitable wearer

@@robertjv because legally they can't show a Green Lantern ring.

@@uncannydcmarvelous5732 Why not

Is the CW that shitty

@@42knight they probably didn’t have the rights to it

Hoping that’s the case

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Rªp¡st ring based

its about will power after all

All the forces from the Source are now inside the multiverse. So it may be that the wall is not as strong...

Cause he never saw what was in the box

Your right the ring choose you it doesn’t put voices in your head

Fr

I mean he is right about if he accepts it. He could travel the universe, save so many lives, but what will guarantee that he can come back to Earth? To his family? To be normal without any cosmic responsibility (cuz if he knows theres a threat out there and he had that ring, he'd leave every time without a second thought)

Actually there is absolutely nothing that says the Ring couldn't do everything in this scene. It is just a device created by the Guardians. Earth is a young species. They could easily adjust the Ring's function to show the Pros and Cons of accepting the Ring. With the Ring comes a great responsibility. The Lanterns are basically interstellar cops. To fill that role you would want to select the best "men" you could. But at the end of the day they will have to want to do the job. With that much power there job would need to come first. Though, this definitely doesn't fit the Hal Jordan story.

You’re assuming it was a lantern ring when that was never confirmed

Maybe who knows

That's a low chance of happening

No,lol,CW doesn’t have rights for GL

@@clarkkent1680 🤨 then what's in the box then kyrpotnite ?

@@king_gaming6813 bro ur so fucking slow they can reference stuff abt dc stuff plus the cw higher ups said no to a green lantern show

i agree Diggle has always put family first and he thought of Olly as family too but Olly got that about him as well. him not choosing to he a Lantern fits right into who he is as a character. i do wonder if that is the end of his spin off that's been in development hell for fucking ever. we need more Diggle on The flash along with his kids and his lovely wife. i want to see what happens next with him

But he wouldn’t be with his family, which is the whole reason he turned it down

Yes, but then he would've had the responsibility of protecting literal planets. Personally it would be too overwhelming.

"Do it John, do it. Drink of The Bleed Mandrakk hid within the cube. Feel its power, break the Source Wall. But when you break through that wall, all the worlds that await will be yours." Yeah nah the cube is definitely something bad and Thawne knew it. Why would the Dark Monitor Mandrakk have anything to do with the Green Lantern Corps? If anything this was an evil version of a Green Lantern ring similar to the Ring of Volthoom.

So physically..... there was.... no ring, per se? 🤨

@@bigwave1713 the ring literally lets you travel at light speeds (not too fun for Diggle but I digress) and plus he'd be protecting Earth's sector more than likely there's ways he can still be with his family and be a lantern

It’s like all those series where a power source or weapon needs to choose it’s wielder. Usually those who crave the power and actively seek it are the least suitable for it. There have been many who wanted green lantern rings and were willing to kill to get them, ignoring the responsibility that came with them and what they were created for. Just power obsessed and not seeing that its a power in service of others

@@vexxama welp, i guess u just describe me, a little

maybe he will embrace it in that show's finale ?

@@vexxama hmm reminds me of Dumbledore in Harry Potter

@@anubhavpal5782 Nah that fate is gone. Maybe he can be recruited by the darkstar organization. They are similar enough to lanterns that having them be the next fate of Diggle might actually be appropriate for something cosmic. The character he is based on John Stewart even joined them in the comics.

They canceled that idea, that's why they made diggle not take the ring

Just a Green Lantern show in general.

@@ausarthevile2970 HBO max is doing one I think.

@@Whatatwist2009 we’ve heard that rumor for HBO for years now, and nothing has happened.

Don't have the budget

Whats Justice U like the Arrowverse Justice league ?

@@Goldtaker23 i heard its gonna be like for the younger heroes of the Arrowverse or something, i guess, if not mistaken, not 100% sure if i remembered it right or not lmao XD

He would be a GL in it, the reason he is not one and they can not even show a ring is because they can not get the TV rights to the character.

@@Goldtaker23 The description of the show is John Diggle training 5 new and young metas

@@paoragavel Well I hope Diggle becomes Lantern then at some point hopefully its a misdirect

Nothing probably

@@king_gaming6813 well its something actually cause he's meant to set up the big bad for season 3

@@Dabombez according to who?

@@jvo8068 to Bitsie (Lois Lane) but I'm pretty sure she didn’t mention Diggle she onky said cool villan

@@jvo8068its been revealed for the past 2 weeks or something in an interview with tod helbing...its on screen rant, other sites that report on this and a bunch of KZfaq's have talked about it like pagey

Should have picked Oliver not Diggle,would have been way better!

CW waiting for the budget approval lol

@@supersnowball-zt2ti green arrow wasn't a Green Lantern.. Make no sense to make him one, RIP Oliver👋

@@michaelbenn4912 what i meant was Oliver was looking for a greater purpose before he died and accended to spectre so if offered a lantern ring he most probly would have accepted as he was always looking to be better!

FINALLY, SOMEONE SAID IT. I WASN'T THE ONLY ONE WHO SAW IT THAT WAY EITHER!!!

For some reason by the time of Arrow Season 4 that fans theorized/wanted Diggle to be John Stewart/Green Lantern.

Star sapphires

@@Tradetek1 exactly thank you

I highly doubt that

@@acemcgowan3841 well it is the CW never say never

True but no matter what ring is given to him he will just not accept it

This is why I dropped the show back in s5 they set up really really great stuff but chicken out due to the budget they would need to pull such stories off

Face it’s the CW it was never going to be Diggle anyways

@@thedarkknightdetective2559 it is a Flash show after all not a Green Lantern show why would they spend money on that

@@ilovezoom3719 while true even if they added a green lantern as a recurring character it would be extremely difficult if not impossible to pull off with a CW budget That said there's plenty of other set ups they chickened out on for pretty much the same reason

@@ilovezoom3719 nah i ain't facing anything. if they were gonna do this they should've either made him reject it off screen at the beginning or done this earlier. not tease it for 2 years, have lantern related characters in the show and mentions to comics that have to do with lanterns then nothing

Ikr? Ever since Season 4 of Arrow that for some reason fans theorized Diggle becoming Green Lantern.

and the "someone else, something else" reminds me so much of the Arrow Intro

Or because it was obvious it was a Green Lantern ring?

@@l0sts0ul89 I'm talking about how the stupid "Diggle is GL" fan theory originally started. He's a black guy named John and therefore he has to be Green Lantern? lol So let's bring in some random pilot and out of nowhere make him Hal Jordan too. Or some billionaire CEO and make him Batman cause he's a rich white dude too. Embarrassing. They should've never started teasing this forced nonsensical "GL" plot, but it was clearly never going anywhere.

@@KalvinEllis Yes its kinda obvious, when you think of rich white guy names Bruce you automatically think of Batman. Super Fast Guy named Barry? The Flash. Names are important wtf name him JOHN and have him have possible Green Lantern ties. Hell John Diggle probably has a military background like John Stewart so that's even more connections.

good theory and I hope so but it feels like theyve just backed themselves in a corner with this tho. cuz if they do that then what is diggle just gonna change his mind about staying with his family? thatd be ridiculous. but if they really wanted to im sure they would find a way to make it work somehow i guess so just hope for the best. but i agree that would be really stupid if they did all this teasing for so long all for nothing

But with great power there must also come great responsibility

"Do it John, do it. Drink of The Bleed Mandrakk hid within the cube. Feel its power, break the Source Wall. But when you break through that wall, all the worlds that await will be yours." This is more than likely not a Green Lantern ring at all if Thawne is right. Mandrakk is the Dark Monitor, a vampiric being that wants to consume the Multiverse, and The Bleed is another plane of existence in which he feeds on and uses to his advantage. Diggle was right not to accept what was in the box, it was probably some sort of forged ring that would've ended up doing more harm than good and causing another Crisis situation. That being said though, Mandrakk will probably be the villain for Superman & Lois season 3.

@@EndoExternal wow. That makes more sense. Thanks for the crash course 👍

It’s CW, they only destroy DC lore.

Like what the heck

Yeah, I saw that coming. Also, it's likely DC said no on using Green Lantern.

Por eso; ya no veo a Flash como una serie de DC superhéroes; porque no me cumple las expectativas de los comics :(. Ahora lo veo como una serie común sin esperar nada asombroso jajajaja

It’s not like they were actually gonna do it

I wonder what it's really meant to be.

Yeah that makes sense, thawne basically said his name, and John is gonna be on superman and lois, and it's rumoured the lead into the big bad of season 3 mandrakk vs Cosmic armour superman

It might have been the Miracle Machine or the Gauntlet of Krona?

@@mikesstuff5307 It couldn't be the miracle machine, it's a bloody cube. Can't be the gauntlet of krona because it is big and not related to Mandrakk like how Thawne describe it in this scene.

Well yes and no. The Bleed is the membrane of DC, the very first thing created within the mind of the perfect Overvoid. It’s contradictions and complexities led to the ideas of plot, of story, development, characters, conflict, the concept of fiction, which is imperfect. The Overvoid created the Angels and the Hands to create the two main Multiverses, DC Canon Multiverse and the Vertigo Multiverse, the latter being famous for the events containing Lucifer’s adventures. The Bleed is essentially the membrane that is in between all dimensions, realities, universes, and stories of DC. Mandrakk parts of the Bleed as he was corrupted by the contradictions, believing it should no longer exist. My guess is that this reference to “drinking the Bleed” means that Diggle needs to drink of the potential to make him the next Green Lantern. And it’s not the entire Bleed. It’s only a very small portion, incredibly small, insignificantly small, but enough to give Diggle his new place within the fiction. How Thawne knows any of that is beyond me. I can see the Bleed and the Source Wall, and that’s a stretch. But Mandrakk? That must have been one terrifying experience.

not exactly. He's just trying to play some version of Wells here. Original Thawne by Letcher is not close to this motivation level

When did they name drop Source Wall?? I think I missed it

@@3000cbreezy 1:25 is where he starts talking about what's actually in the cube. The cube wouldn't have even been a way out for him if it did contain a Green Lantern ring since John wouldn't let him out. Thawne was trying to bait Diggle into accepting the ring because he knows that whatever is actually inside is malicious and wouldn't be against setting him free.

Well he knows more about the Speed Force than anyone else, meaning he must have extensive knowledge. My question is how does he know about Mandrakk.

In the distant future, the Book of Oa shows that Hal will eventually marry Carol and their son would be named Martin Jordan after Hal's father.

well green lanterns are basically space police, and as it is we know what happens to people in the force or army when they have families

In the strictest sense, none of the Lanterns are really like that. The closest thing you could argue for is Hal, but he's not looking after his own wife and child, he looks after his niece and nephew and his brother, and that's only when he manages to get some time back on Earth. Guy Gardner doesn't have a wife, but had an on-again-off-again relationship with Ice and literally ran away from his family because they were abusive. As far as I know there's really nothing like that with John, though I think he has a sister. Kyle Rayner has a litany of different relationships, but never starts a family (his own girlfriend being murdered is literally what invented the term "fridging a character"). Alan Scott, the OG Green Lantern (his powers don't come from an Oan Power Ring, they come from some mystical space rock called the Starheart), has a son and daughter (Obsidian and Jade), but again, his powers are not from a Green Lantern Power Ring, so he's not a Green Lantern as we know them now, i.e. intergalactic super cops.

Dude he would have to be patrolling the Galaxy he's had a tough time trying to find the origins of the ring. You think he would have time leading the green lantern corps? C'mon now

Everyone’s over here saying lanterns don’t do relationships cus there space cops… these are the people forgetting that lanterns just have to patrol there individual space sectors ( usually a little bit larger than a solar system) most lanterns who aren’t main characters are just chilling at home with their families. Hell sometimes we’ve even seen in side stories that lanterns have been able to pass the ring onto their kids just fine

There's Good Ways to do Special Effects with a Lower Budget. Get or buy or make Green Coloured Glass Items and add Little CGI to them. Green Lantern summoning Item could be Green Glass. We can even have Deeper from the Flash being a Villain for Green Lantern. Seems like the Writers know they themselves aren't smart enough to make any more TV Shows

summoning Items < Plural ******** Not Deeper, lol I was trying to say/type Despero the Flash Villain ******* Typing Mistakes while I'm multitasking

True, facts for sure bro

You guys realize that he did that to escape

@@acemcgowan3841 of course, but in the end he always does something positive for the hero. Just saying he'd be pretty good at it. Eoboard Thawn Hero Innovator

He only does that for his own wellbeing

He also says "Drink of The Bleed Mandrakk hid within the ring". It's more than likely just Mandrakk trying to get out from whatever prison he's in.

Probably but I doubt they're gonna do it since Volthoom is heavily tied with the GL Mythology