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The Matrix Awakens Tech Analysis + PS5 vs Xbox Series S/X Performance Analysis

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@Shieftain
@Shieftain 2 жыл бұрын
I was hoping DF would do a breakdown of this as soon as the demo was revealed. Didn't expect to see it this fast though! Well done team, well done.
@MichaelDoesLife
@MichaelDoesLife 2 жыл бұрын
No need for a breakdown. This demo is shallow AF.
@otherprisma7354
@otherprisma7354 2 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelDoesLife Its a tech demo dude, not a whole game.
@chaoticshdwmonk
@chaoticshdwmonk 2 жыл бұрын
They said at the start of the video that DF got a copy of it ahead of release so it's not as fast as you think
@Shieftain
@Shieftain 2 жыл бұрын
@@chaoticshdwmonk Right, good point.
@crazyworldoutthere4379
@crazyworldoutthere4379 2 жыл бұрын
@@otherprisma7354 Dude is a hate baiter
@marcuslee1684
@marcuslee1684 2 жыл бұрын
Easily one of the most exciting tech demos ever. The glass during the shooting shifting about oddly gave me goosebumps
@MichaelDoesLife
@MichaelDoesLife 2 жыл бұрын
Weird. It looks and plays like shit.
@marciamakesmusic
@marciamakesmusic 2 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelDoesLife replying to every comment, why are you so mad people like things you don't?
@kahnsealable
@kahnsealable 2 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelDoesLife Do you honestly sniff glue to believe the things you say?
@saputrasaputra3347
@saputrasaputra3347 2 жыл бұрын
ah so promising.. the future of gaming , 1080p 20fps as expected of weakbox and weakstation 5
@marcuslee1684
@marcuslee1684 2 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelDoesLife I think if you look past the framerate, you'll be greeted by the art.
@MrHonwe
@MrHonwe 2 жыл бұрын
This demo is another meta way of demonstrating the concept of the Matrix, outside of the previous Matrix games.
@f44had
@f44had 2 жыл бұрын
Another 'meta' way??? lmfao.. ok.
@astroman310
@astroman310 2 жыл бұрын
we like to see this how it will look like on my potato pc
@f44had
@f44had 2 жыл бұрын
@@nope4620 I don't think that's what he meant by 'Meta'. Anyway I appreciate the rest of what you said
@Deprece
@Deprece 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine this engine on a game that isn’t open world. The detail would be beyond belief
@dazza2350
@dazza2350 2 жыл бұрын
We've seen something like that with the tech demo with the girl exploring the desert ruins from last year
@ryanod9845
@ryanod9845 2 жыл бұрын
Last of Us 3 👀
@jitensi
@jitensi 2 жыл бұрын
Hellblade would exactly be that
@statcous
@statcous 2 жыл бұрын
@@ryanod9845 Naughty Dog is developing their own engine for this gen, so sadly no.
@CR00K__Gaming
@CR00K__Gaming 2 жыл бұрын
@@statcous I wouldn't say sadly. Naughty Dog has always done very well with their own engines. Guerilla Games included. We'll just have to wait and see.
@Iamfirebird360
@Iamfirebird360 2 жыл бұрын
These three guys talking games tech is so enjoyable. Its just like 3 best friends discussing their passion.
@Case_
@Case_ 2 жыл бұрын
Which is essentially exactly what it is.
@astroman310
@astroman310 2 жыл бұрын
if you like this on consolle you will chill on your pc low end like mine with gtx1050ti
@troyphillips6481
@troyphillips6481 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, unreal engine 5 deserves industry-wide applause for actually pulling this kind of technology off in general, not to mention on consoles. This is truly groundbreaking.
@SC0RPI0NFURY
@SC0RPI0NFURY 2 жыл бұрын
This is all carefully planned by the top leaders at Sony, MS and Epic Games and probably other big companies involved as well. They wanted Epic Games to show this tech first as they are in the best marketing position to do so for the whole entire gaming industry. This is a huge selling point to push the sales of next gen consoles/hardware forward. I can guarantee that Sony, Rockstar, EA, Ubisoft, Activision etc are all in developement of true next gen titles using nanite and lumen technology. The most impressive part in this demo for me is the Meta-Human technology which alone has a price tag of 1 billion US dollars. I'm super impressed with the whole demo though and i agree they deserve industry-wide applause
@TheChallenger1000
@TheChallenger1000 2 жыл бұрын
The consoles this gen are pretty powerful, so that part isn't much of a shock.
@mrjones29
@mrjones29 2 жыл бұрын
not just consoles, but the two top end consoles. why you surprised?
@sharathvasudev
@sharathvasudev 2 жыл бұрын
imagine my happiness. after a long search battle, managed to buy a series x on Dec 7 and the next day this drops
@mrjones29
@mrjones29 2 жыл бұрын
@@sharathvasudev great buy and stroke of luck lol
@hi_its_jerry
@hi_its_jerry 2 жыл бұрын
20:45 that was the highlight. The movement, the detailed closeup on Keanu's face and the dim lighting/soft shadow. It's 99.9% perfect.
@astroman310
@astroman310 2 жыл бұрын
my metahuman looks good on Ue5
@morbid1.
@morbid1. 2 жыл бұрын
in Demo itself most impressive for me was draw distance and fact that every car had "soft body physics" which can create quite realistic damage model
@Ayoul
@Ayoul 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't tried to do comparisons, but my gut is that some of that isn't all physics, but very good shading work or some kind of blend of baked assets similar to that bridge. Like there's a clean car and damaged version pre-computed and they smoothly blend between the two at points of impact. The reason why I think that and I guess I should play more around with it to check, but it didn't feel systemic to me. It didn't feel like it was 100% doing what I was expecting it to do and it doesn't get worse and worse at every impact as if there's a limit. There's also no "little damage" as we can see in the video. If you do a small impact, you'd expect a small bump but no there's often nothing.
@aggelostsirepas444
@aggelostsirepas444 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ayoul cut the crap troll. The demo using chaos physics engine
@nolram
@nolram 2 жыл бұрын
@@aggelostsirepas444 Chaos is a rigid body solver (seen on the cached bridge for instance). Afaik it does not have a Softbody solver; and indeed, I don't think the car deformation is a real-time calculation, but I am not entirely sure. Haven't tried the demo myself yet.
@gdoumit
@gdoumit 2 жыл бұрын
This tech demo is so incredible. If they don't make a Matrix game with this, it would be absolutely criminal. We NEED a Matrix game with modern tech so bad.
@localgames1
@localgames1 2 жыл бұрын
You're living in that game right now.
@ProtoNoah
@ProtoNoah 2 жыл бұрын
@@localgames1 oh fuck
@mohammadreza199
@mohammadreza199 2 жыл бұрын
@@localgames1 Read this with morpheus's voice
@UberNoodle
@UberNoodle 2 жыл бұрын
Well the joke's on us. We're all existing in a matrix game right now.
@FigmentHF
@FigmentHF 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know how you can make this whole incredible city and not throw in a random “Lady in a red dress”, a black cat that appears twice, maybe a small % chance of seeing Neo flying off in the sky. Just a bunch of little Easter eggs to find. You can’t convince me that any of this stuff would take more than an afternoons work.
@AdiusOmega
@AdiusOmega 2 жыл бұрын
The most important aspect of these technologies are simplifying an existing workflow made difficult due to man-power/time restraints. Crafting an open world while still utilizing traditional LOD models is so incredibly time consuming. To balance that ratio of pop-in, fidelity, taking into consideration the multitude of console variations, PC hardware. Nanite completely rids of that necessity for static environment assets. Lumin? Same thing. Crafting a world that looks accurate in dynamic lighting conditions is another balancing act that just simply won't be needed in the future.
@darrylrobson4376
@darrylrobson4376 2 жыл бұрын
@@StringTheory365 They aren't easier to make. The tools are better sure but the games are also far more complex and require bigger development teams than they used to, which of course need to be paid.
@iniside
@iniside 2 жыл бұрын
@@StringTheory365 You don't consider the amount of R&D going into technology. Well at least at Epic.
@PortfolioPL
@PortfolioPL 2 жыл бұрын
@@StringTheory365 That is nonsense. Making AAA open world games are significantly more difficult than it was 5-10 years ago. The amount of iterations needed to raise the level of each feature and system to shippable level is insane . The tools are much more complex and we expect a lot more from GDs and LDs than in the past (they visual script important systems which were hard coded before). The tools got better, but the expectations are much higher (no one wants to end up like Days Gone which was made in UE4). Look at the GTA Definitive trilogy to see how difficult even to port an already existing game while maintaining the cohesion of art, gameplay, music, etc. Look at how Cyberpunk guys could not make the systems work as their engine is not on the required level (e.g.: there are no police chases as there is no driving system in the open world).
@VariantAEC
@VariantAEC 2 жыл бұрын
@@iniside R&D happens everywhere for every developer even tiny ones that do one slightly unique thing for their title.
@megaxrobertson759
@megaxrobertson759 2 жыл бұрын
@@darrylrobson4376 70 dollars is a garbage price point. 60 was fine. Stop worshipping your corporations you dolt.
@Pedr4m
@Pedr4m 2 жыл бұрын
I love that Winamp makes an appearance in the video around 18:22 playing an mp3 from the Matrix soundtrack downloaded from Kazaa. What a great 90s throwback!
@ThaMobstarr
@ThaMobstarr 2 жыл бұрын
LOL defintely could‘t be more retro! Winamp is a program I haven’t heard of in ages. Although this would probably be more early 00s to me. :D
@TylerNessss
@TylerNessss 2 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah baby! This was just pure nostalgia.
@astroman310
@astroman310 2 жыл бұрын
just look at what this gen of consolle is capable of
@joker927
@joker927 2 жыл бұрын
Interacting with this Matrix demo was the coolest thing I have seen in tech in years. Excellent discussion DF.
@astroman310
@astroman310 2 жыл бұрын
imagime the engine playable on entry level gpu
@darrenchilds5034
@darrenchilds5034 Жыл бұрын
@@astroman310 series s
@Shezmen88
@Shezmen88 2 жыл бұрын
About the dodging the bullets scene, I think all they used from the original movie was the textures for the environment (the building and the city). In the original movie Keanu was shot over a green screen thanks to a circular rig of synchronized cameras surrounding him. The cape too was real and blown back by a wind machine. Even in the movie, you can clearly see that the environment is fake, although really well done for the time. What we see in this Unreal demo was a real time CG recreation, which to me was the only scene that looked not convincing at all. Everything else was absolutely mind-blowing. Especially when the eyes are covered with sun glasses, which eliminates even more that "uncanny valley" problem of cgi.
@DeadPixel1105
@DeadPixel1105 2 жыл бұрын
Holy shit, you used the phrase "uncanny valley" properly. Lately, I keep seeing KZfaqrs and game reviewers use the phrase improperly - much like the term "literally" the last few years. For example: I've seen several KZfaqrs refer to the goofy, cartoony character models of GTA Definitive Edition as "uncanny valley" - when that is the exact opposite of what "uncanny valley" means. Pointless rant, I admit.
@Zach_Films
@Zach_Films 2 жыл бұрын
I think they were only saying that Warner Brothers had a digital neo asset from the movies that was used and updated for this scene, not that it was necessarily used in that shot(s).
@troelsmller2970
@troelsmller2970 2 жыл бұрын
Neo's jacket is CGI, maybe that's what they meant
@Shezmen88
@Shezmen88 2 жыл бұрын
@@Zach_Films yes it could be that!
@mrn234
@mrn234 2 жыл бұрын
@@DeadPixel1105 I think the GCI character Ron Perlman plays in one of the horrible 2 "Harry Potter" movies with Newt Scamander falls under uncanny valley
@TheKafairy
@TheKafairy 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting for an example of a Next Gen game unhindered by past technology considerations - this is really cool
@MichaelDoesLife
@MichaelDoesLife 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe learn how things work before running your mouth and making a fool of yourself. Last of Us 2 looks better. And that ran on 2013 hardware. Get real, bro.
@gavinderulo12
@gavinderulo12 2 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelDoesLife is the last of us 2 open world, does it have dynamic lighting? This demo shows way more than you think it does.
@Departure4885
@Departure4885 2 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelDoesLife I gave you a thumbs down not just because you’re wrong, but also because how rude this comment is.
@kylelochner5686
@kylelochner5686 2 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelDoesLife last of us 2 textures look low res on the rocks and most of the assets. It looked good at the time but these new games look better in every way.
@frankjoz2803
@frankjoz2803 2 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelDoesLife It doesn't look better. Facts
@37Kilo2
@37Kilo2 2 жыл бұрын
I was absolutely stunned with this demo. Flying up to the top of skyscrapers and zooming into the rooms, and textures, gargoyles, etc., looking for any flaws, and finding very, very few. Now I need a game that takes place in this city, it's amazing and gorgeous.
@deathtrooper2048
@deathtrooper2048 2 жыл бұрын
It's not impressive outside of the first cutscene
@HugoStiglitz88
@HugoStiglitz88 2 жыл бұрын
Finding very few? Lol are you blind?
@HugoStiglitz88
@HugoStiglitz88 2 жыл бұрын
@UnjustifiedRecs exactly bro. Not only that but just the general scene looks like the low budget demo that it is, not a full fledged game People are overrating this demo like crazy just because it's UE5 when in actuality it doesn't even look better than Spiderman
@devo229
@devo229 2 жыл бұрын
@@deathtrooper2048 no, walking the city and driving and the collision physics is quite impressive and flying up and see the grand size and detail of the city is very impressive
@HugoStiglitz88
@HugoStiglitz88 2 жыл бұрын
@@devo229no it isn't lol not when it looks as bad as it does. Runs bad too and looks like a series S game even on series X. Spiderman 2018 makes this look like a joke lol
@NikHem343
@NikHem343 2 жыл бұрын
As a teenager I wondered if it will ever ever be possible at all to achieve photorealistic games. 15 years later and we are almost there. Mind bending.
@Blottski
@Blottski 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly this. I really am looking forward to when the current gen consoles ditch the old gen and can fully move towards what this Matrix tech demo shows us. I remember at the start of the PS4/Xbox One gen I thought BF4 was an impressive looking game....man how far we have come even since that time.
@DimitriosChannel
@DimitriosChannel 2 жыл бұрын
When I was a kid I collected every PC magazine and I still have the old one from MAXIMUM PC where the Nvidia CEO stated we almost have TOYSTORY graphics and he also stated in 15 years or so you wouldn't tell the difference. This article was made 1999 I think I gotta find it in my pile at my parents attic. I'm not joking I have 2-3 ft worth of PC Tech magazines. Ia also saved the Demo CD's as well! Even the DOOM demo.
@NikHem343
@NikHem343 2 жыл бұрын
@@DimitriosChannel That was an impressively accurate statement then
@Sinn0100
@Sinn0100 2 жыл бұрын
@@michalthekind What?! No, this demo is playable on a 500 dollar console right now. I'm as middle class as you can get and we (fiancee and I) have both 9th generation consoles that I picked up at launch. We just played the demo not 10 minutes ago and thought it was amazing. I played on the Series X and she on the PS5 *physical. Addendum- The only reason it took so long for us is I thought the demo was just a glorified trailer for a movie. I had no idea what I was missing...
@astroman310
@astroman310 2 жыл бұрын
@@Sinn0100 my gtx 1050ti will run this at 25fps
@MrSTVR
@MrSTVR 2 жыл бұрын
I love tech demos and hope they're more readily available on consoles like this
@hovdog
@hovdog 2 жыл бұрын
Man...this so much...
@walrus-splice-renewable
@walrus-splice-renewable 2 жыл бұрын
Why though? I would like try to games implementing the new Unreal Engine, I don't give a fuck about tech demos.
@MrSTVR
@MrSTVR 2 жыл бұрын
@@walrus-splice-renewable well they're free and you don't have to wait 3 years for them to release
@hupekyser
@hupekyser 2 жыл бұрын
@@walrus-splice-renewable it's great for people who like technology. Which is part of the point of a technology demo.
@prateekpanwar646
@prateekpanwar646 2 жыл бұрын
@@walrus-splice-renewable Well then you'll have to wait 3 years atleast. When any new console comes out, It needs atleast 2-3 years to fully utilise the hardware. See forza horizon 2 on Xbox one and forza horizon 4. Same console, But bump in quality is exceptional.
@marcuspierce124
@marcuspierce124 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't seen the DF crew this enamored with a tech demo in a long time. Sidenote: Would anyone else love to see a Virtua Fighter-esque Matrix fighter using this tech?
@LarnelleChambers
@LarnelleChambers 2 жыл бұрын
obviously i wanna see that. pleaaase hurry up
@jayclarke777
@jayclarke777 2 жыл бұрын
I would just like a new Virtual Fighter altogether
@beingatliberty
@beingatliberty 2 жыл бұрын
would there be much point? nanite is making city scapes possible in such detail, a couple of characters fighting would barely touch the sides of this technology. ;)
@LeonidThe90sKid
@LeonidThe90sKid 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Marcus Pierce, are you a bit FGC as well? :) i’m to find developers for a fighting game using this tech (or similar tech in the near future). Some companies seem to not want anything to do with fighting games at the moment (probably from looking at fortnite numbers and comparing them with fighting games).
@baronsengir187
@baronsengir187 2 жыл бұрын
If it can keep 60 fps
@Omikron1011
@Omikron1011 2 жыл бұрын
The detailing in this demo is absolutely absurd! So many building and other assets, rooftops and stuff, it is mind blowing!
@richwong403
@richwong403 2 жыл бұрын
It would be better if they put environment reflections on their black glasses.
@astroman310
@astroman310 2 жыл бұрын
woul this playable on the gtx or ati with raytracyng?
@nico5179
@nico5179 2 жыл бұрын
I played this on my PS5 on my 4K HDR monitor and it was just mind blowing. I honestly never seen this level of realism in a game like ever, and I have been gaming on the PC for over 2 decades now. Just amazing!
@TheAltafir
@TheAltafir 2 жыл бұрын
You haven't seen a graphic like this 20 years ago? What bullshit you played
@nico5179
@nico5179 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheAltafir not even today with modern gaming PCs have I seen graphics like these. I have a Ryzen 7 5800X and an RX6800XT gpu for your information!
@pilouuuu
@pilouuuu 2 жыл бұрын
It's a real shame this demo is not on PC.
@ShatteringKatana
@ShatteringKatana 2 жыл бұрын
@@pilouuuu It's a good call in the sense that people can't claim "oh, this runs on an overspecced PC" (that's what the team claimed). I would like to play it on PC though, as it's totally capable of doing so.
@ArtVandelayOfficial
@ArtVandelayOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
Wait till you see it on OLED
@zhaf
@zhaf 2 жыл бұрын
Keanu Reeves: “What is real? How do we know?” DF: Oh we know….. we analyzed the shit out of it.
@frogbelly45
@frogbelly45 2 жыл бұрын
HAHA 😄 🤣
@unbearifiedbear1885
@unbearifiedbear1885 2 жыл бұрын
69 likes Niceeee
@-1nterruption-960
@-1nterruption-960 2 жыл бұрын
Played this on my Series X for a few hours just flying around looking at the detail on everything. Just Amazing
@v1kt0u5
@v1kt0u5 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful in HDR/DV and smooth rendered by this machine.
@jaymac7203
@jaymac7203 2 жыл бұрын
This was the first time my series x actually felt like it was being utilised. Awesome demo.
@devo229
@devo229 2 жыл бұрын
So true
@Blue_Brawler
@Blue_Brawler 2 жыл бұрын
agreed! i’ve been waiting for a game to truly wow me!
@NextgenPL
@NextgenPL 2 жыл бұрын
Of course! ... Before this it was like big crossgen nonsense!!!! From now we start a true next gen experience! Amazing time!
@sevn8757
@sevn8757 2 жыл бұрын
@@Blue_Brawler Ive been waiting for a series x to actually be in stock
@RareManga
@RareManga 2 жыл бұрын
Nah don’t forget about the greatest game…Halo
@1ChilledDude
@1ChilledDude 2 жыл бұрын
I knew from the moment I'd laid eyes on the in-game visuals and playing this tech demo, I was witnessing a game changer. Your analysis of the tech is a vindication. This demo is truly revolutionary given how closely it mimics in real-time what was once considered only the realm of pre-rendered CG. This genuinely looks like the pre-rendered scenes from the actual Matrix movies and each of those CG scenes took literally days to render! I was equally astonished at how smooth everything ran on the PS5. If this is a taste of what this generation of consoles has to offer, the future is looking very bright indeed. If they can maintain this level of fidelity for VR experiences developed with UE5, the immersion level will be beyond mind blowing!
@1ChilledDude
@1ChilledDude 2 жыл бұрын
@@faultyservice There are companies that have released procedural building creation tools on Unreal's Marketplace before, but it looks like EPIC's internal devs have taken this to a whole new level in this demo. The rule sets that govern how structures are populated within the environment seem quite sophisticated.
@astroman310
@astroman310 2 жыл бұрын
my gtx is ready for this or i need a better configuration for the 2023?
@dogeatinghomework
@dogeatinghomework 2 жыл бұрын
30fps VR would be absolutely sickeningly unpleasant man. The current gen consoles have nowhere near the horsepower for a proper VR experience at this level of graphical fidelity. Even 60hz VR is unpleasant.
@cmo5807
@cmo5807 2 жыл бұрын
@@dogeatinghomework You are aware the new ps5 vr unit will run 90 and 120.... Yes I understand you mean the power of the consoles but Im just pointing out at least this Playstation vr unit will not be as bad as the last. But yes the games will not be this good looking but I expect by the midlife of the VR unit the games will look good.
@drztopgun
@drztopgun 2 жыл бұрын
I checked out this Unreal Engine 5 demo on my series X last night. I couldn't believe my eyes and the prospect of this being the future of gaming.
@MichaelDoesLife
@MichaelDoesLife 2 жыл бұрын
It looks horrible
@eSKAone-
@eSKAone- 2 жыл бұрын
Yea 30fps again the future of gaming, great.
@eSKAone-
@eSKAone- 2 жыл бұрын
Now we really need PS5 Pro
@sprintingsnail9492
@sprintingsnail9492 2 жыл бұрын
@@eSKAone- why?
@SoumyadeepChanda
@SoumyadeepChanda 2 жыл бұрын
@@eSKAone- Do you expect a 3090 in a $500 console?
@Balthazar2242
@Balthazar2242 2 жыл бұрын
The beauty of using The Matrix for a tech demo is the whole thing makes sense in-universe. Any glitch, any inconsistency, even the fact that you are manipulating the world, works as part of the Matrix. It's like you're an AI constructing the world.
@andymontanez56
@andymontanez56 2 жыл бұрын
Someone definitely needs to make a new matrix game
@andyward8430
@andyward8430 2 жыл бұрын
Yes it is the perfect setting for an open world game with very “gamish” mechanics and flaws.
@skid6641
@skid6641 2 жыл бұрын
@@andymontanez56 insomniac would do a good job
@andymontanez56
@andymontanez56 2 жыл бұрын
@@skid6641 thatd be cool. Think I would prefer remedy more though for this game
@weaverquest
@weaverquest 2 жыл бұрын
@@andymontanez56 A Naughty Dog Matrix game would have been a dream imo. They already got the state of the art motion capture and very realistic animations, action set pieces from Uncharted as crazy as the action sequences from the Matrix movies, the visceral gunplay and melee from tlou 2, and with a graphics tech like this would be mind-blowing.
@bighams69
@bighams69 2 жыл бұрын
For the first time since we were teenagers, my friends and I watched this trailer together and our jaws collectively dropped. We also said the words we used to say back then: "Graphics just can't get any better than this"
@astroman310
@astroman310 2 жыл бұрын
on my teenage this was to look on ps6, but it will work good on my rig, considering i can upgrade my videocard
@antjarvis
@antjarvis 2 жыл бұрын
The cross over in tech from games to movie production and back again is fascinating. The last 3 big commercials I worked on, all featured Unreal in some form or other. It is becoming as ubitquitus as the camera, and has enabled the widespread use of LED volumes. Surely they are up for the Science and Technoloy Oscar?
@XPuntar
@XPuntar 2 жыл бұрын
That is for sure! In the end credits of the movie The Matrix Resurrection there is a mention of Unreal Engine 5!
@astroman310
@astroman310 2 жыл бұрын
we need this with ati or nvidia partneship
@GameDynastyPro
@GameDynastyPro 2 жыл бұрын
This tech demo was insane definitely wasn't expecting the graphics to be so realistic.UE5 is true beast of gaming engine
@override7486
@override7486 2 жыл бұрын
I guess you meant graphics engine. Because there's not much game of any sort, except the visuals and rendering solutions running on all cylinders. And as workforce is limited, you have to kinda decide what to spent your time (and money) for. Find balance between jaw-dropping visuals and VFX all over screen versus gameplay and "fun" part of the game itself.
@attemptityourself5662
@attemptityourself5662 2 жыл бұрын
@@override7486 well its an engine demo soooooo. Most gameplay elements of any game are tailored by the game makers. Sure epic will include a trove of stock assets and animations but every engine, even those made by studios for in-house production, will have bespoke elements created for an individual game from that studio when compared to another by the same studio on the same engine. You're splitting hairs on pedantics to be contrarian. Additionally on the workforce front they literally talked about multiple points of using the engines ai for world creation allowing smaller studios to dream bigger and also about improving performance across the board. For an unoptimized demo to showcase the abilities via real-time rendering on console(not pre rendered cgi on a pc) it is pretty mindblowing and delivers on the "next gen" everyone was hoping to see.
@GameslordXY
@GameslordXY 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah and framerate sucks from what I can see . For now. Question is, how well can consoles maintain THIS level of visual fidelity targeting smooth stable 30 or so , never mind 60 or more fps at this or higher resolution. 4K60 for example . Or 1080p120 Dynamic even .
@GameslordXY
@GameslordXY 2 жыл бұрын
@@attemptityourself5662 Word bespoke is reserved ExclusivelY for the members of Digital Foundry team. And YOU ARE NOT it. Best replace it with something else. 😜😜😜😝😛😛🤪🤪🤪
@gamer123ab
@gamer123ab 2 жыл бұрын
@@GameslordXY LOL!!!!!
@UserInterface00
@UserInterface00 2 жыл бұрын
After it was announced at the Game Awards that this went live, I’m sure all of us were waiting for the Digital Foundry tech review
@v1kt0u5
@v1kt0u5 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly my thoughts.
@SpontaneousWeasel
@SpontaneousWeasel 2 жыл бұрын
This really blew my mind - loved how closely they got to a truly photo real version of the original movie's introduction of neo waking to his pc from the matrix rain effect. I wasn't sure what to expect from the teaser countdown but this really cemented what the new console hardware can do!
@Nielo_Gan
@Nielo_Gan 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone who isn't totally blown away by this doesn't understand the tech involved. There are lot more at play here than just 3D visuals. I'm still collecting my jaw off the floor. The physics alone is 👌. And all running on 500 dollar consumer hardware. 🤯
@jazzycup9274
@jazzycup9274 2 жыл бұрын
Hit 130mph on the freeway circle, saw Epic themselves couldn't keep their engine from bogging down, said "neat" and turned it off. It was cool, but we aren't going to see anything using it to its *full potential or seeing a consistent 60 or 120 frames until Xbox "whatever" and the PS6. *We will definitely see badly optomized games come out before then though.
@stop965
@stop965 2 жыл бұрын
Hell 400
@HugoStiglitz88
@HugoStiglitz88 2 жыл бұрын
Except tech isn't everything. Who gives a shit how advanced the tech is if it doesn't look as attractive as something else?? There are plenty of games with more advanced tech than Demons Souls but that doesn't change the fact that demons souls is by far the best looking game money can buy right now.
@HugoStiglitz88
@HugoStiglitz88 2 жыл бұрын
@@jazzycup9274 exactly. Ue5 is an unoptimized mess and still doesn't manage to look better than many last Gen games let alone current Gen LOL
@Nielo_Gan
@Nielo_Gan 2 жыл бұрын
@@HugoStiglitz88 When you boost visual realism, you also need to boost animation, physics, AI, etc. If you don't, you get disjointed mess, which basically the bulk of current games. Look pretty, makes great screenshots, falls flat at everything else. This is the first playable content I've seen that brings it altogether. Hence the overwhelming praise by many. Impossible to pull off on last gen. UE5 is still in development, this was developed by small team with limited budget & time. Can't wait to see what this engine can do once its properly set loose.
@M.W.H.
@M.W.H. 2 жыл бұрын
This is probably the biggest move forward in visuals technology in video games since the days that ushered the 3D graphics. Most impressive indeed, let's see where this will go.
@neilranson4185
@neilranson4185 2 жыл бұрын
Seems the holy grail of gaming graphics has now been met being what looks at least like infinite detail abs photo realism. I knew these consoles could do a LOT more than what we have mostly seen so far but even then I was shocked I couldn’t tell what was real life and what was real time in engine visuals
@M.W.H.
@M.W.H. 2 жыл бұрын
@@neilranson4185 this also proves that the publishers/developers were lazy.
@jayroman3384
@jayroman3384 2 жыл бұрын
@@M.W.H. it doesn’t. At all. Unreal engine 5 is brand new. It takes time for games to start being made with the engine. I think the only confirmed game that’s being developed in it so far is Black Myth: Wukong
@alexbrown5658
@alexbrown5658 2 жыл бұрын
@@jayroman3384 Hellblade II is also confirmed to be running on UE5 and we just saw that at the TGA. It looked absolutely nuts.
@GratefulDave93
@GratefulDave93 2 жыл бұрын
@@jayroman3384 Star Atlas is being developed with UE5
@cwehden
@cwehden 2 жыл бұрын
the way the characters walk breaks the illusion in a big way..
@MiggeX
@MiggeX 2 жыл бұрын
This is true
@undeny
@undeny 2 жыл бұрын
Eyes are glassy not looking with ''intent'' as a human being would and mouth as well as head movements during speech look like puppets or bobble heads.
@samiboy1368
@samiboy1368 2 жыл бұрын
It was a problem on the last demo too
@PersonPlaceThing1
@PersonPlaceThing1 2 жыл бұрын
it's because they're in a simulation. It's lore accurate lol
@antonioviramontes7619
@antonioviramontes7619 2 жыл бұрын
And the horrible pedestrians lol
@alphacompton
@alphacompton 2 жыл бұрын
NEO SLEEPING BY THE PC IS REALTIME UE5????? OMG I was positive that's ripped from the movie. That's insane. This way above anything out there.
@MrInuhanyou123
@MrInuhanyou123 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing, the character models look on par with the cg character models of matrix revolutions which was professional grade movie production, one of the most expensive movies of its time
@SC0RPI0NFURY
@SC0RPI0NFURY 2 жыл бұрын
I agree it's amazing. That Meta Human technology Epic Games showcases in this tech-demo has currently a price tag of 1 billion US dollars and it's still under developement
@astroman310
@astroman310 2 жыл бұрын
the stream from the ssd ps5 did a good job on this demo
@lohitpeesapati3846
@lohitpeesapati3846 2 жыл бұрын
I played it yesterday on a 1080p screen, on my XSX and it still looked remarkable. Thanks for the great analysis as always, was waiting for this! I hope Epic updates this demo with any future improvements.
@mrroachclip8444
@mrroachclip8444 2 жыл бұрын
I got a series x quick question..how can I play it?
@GotSawst
@GotSawst 2 жыл бұрын
@@mrroachclip8444 push Y and search for the Matrix in the store. 🤔
@mrroachclip8444
@mrroachclip8444 2 жыл бұрын
@@GotSawstthanks
@CrashBashL
@CrashBashL 2 жыл бұрын
That's because the game is still rendering in 4K in the VRAM then it gets downscaled to the TV's native resolution , thus keeping a much higher quality. It's not the same for playing a game or this demo directly in 1080p on an 1080p screen. Then it will look bad.
@sharathvasudev
@sharathvasudev 2 жыл бұрын
@@CrashBashL exactly. I play on my 1080p monitor than my 4k tv. it always looks better on monitors. monitors definitely come with better tech unless you buy very expensive TV from a big brand
@thomashewitt8104
@thomashewitt8104 2 жыл бұрын
Played this on PS5 last night and it was incredible. I’m especially impressed with Nanite, I spend a good hour just zooming in on random props on the street and architectural features on buildings and just being absolutely blown away by the amount of geometry, and how seamlessly the level of detail changes as you move closer / further from it
@kc-me6wl
@kc-me6wl 2 жыл бұрын
same dude...lost 30minutes just walking around the streets...was a point when i caught the sun coming right down a street and it just bounced off the character so incredibly felt as though as i was basking in the sun myself... if metaverse VR captures details like this were screwed lol
@DonkeyRhubarb21
@DonkeyRhubarb21 2 жыл бұрын
Played through this today. I'm so appreciative that they released this for free. I know it's in their own interest to do so, but I'm so impressed and it feels like the newest gens of demos we used to get.
@AmariMarvelous
@AmariMarvelous 2 жыл бұрын
Very very impressive tech demo. This is the future for now current gen games moving forward once devs utilize the Unreal engine to its advantage along with the power of the PS5/xbox Series X. Last time I was enamored and felt characters looked life like was LA Noire in terms of graphics and face models. Till this day I think the best photo realistic games are God Of War, The Last Of Us part 2 and Red Dead Redemption 2.
@astroman310
@astroman310 2 жыл бұрын
Alex agrees with me to see the matrix on pc hardware
@astroman310
@astroman310 2 жыл бұрын
you cant deny that
@DarthRaver-og7qq
@DarthRaver-og7qq 2 жыл бұрын
This demo only scratches the surface of what will be possible in games in the coming years. Really exciting stuff.
@Hirnlego999
@Hirnlego999 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, but the problem is that a lot of studios won't be able to afford to do this level of graphics
@kajmak64bit76
@kajmak64bit76 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hirnlego999 actually it's opposite... these stuff make making good graphics easier and faster... so it's actually gonna be cheaper and easier so... uhh.. yeah... that happend apparently
@Hirnlego999
@Hirnlego999 2 жыл бұрын
@@kajmak64bit76 Fast and easy is marketing talk. Bioshock Infinite cost 100 million USD to develop and it's nowhere near this complexity
@kajmak64bit76
@kajmak64bit76 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hirnlego999 exactly... because all the realietic lighting is fake... manually crafted by the developers... Lumen and Raytracing is just flipping a switch... and voila... realistic lighting... the devs only place light sources.. props... and proper textures... flip raytracing on... and boom good lighting... while previously they had to manually craft and make raytracing knock off lighting with regular non raytracing way aka rasterization ( i think that's what it's called not sure ) So yes it's more simpler to make and more cheap
@Hirnlego999
@Hirnlego999 2 жыл бұрын
@@kajmak64bit76 LOL no, the textures and a lot won't pop into existence from out of nowhere. But sure, raytracing lightning will be faster but it's gonna be many many years until the average person has enough RT power so that will be the only way things will be created. Don't expect this to happen fast.
@TheWeeky
@TheWeeky 2 жыл бұрын
seein Neo so real as a GAME character was actually unreal, the whole demo is insane but how realistic they made Neo is actually amazing
@FinerSide321
@FinerSide321 2 жыл бұрын
U r correct it is unreal .....unreal engine 5 xD
@raijinn5139
@raijinn5139 2 жыл бұрын
its not a game
@fafski1199
@fafski1199 2 жыл бұрын
@Transistor Jump It's not exactly AAA or even indie quality though. It's just a showcase tech demo, with a couple of basic and simplistic gameplay elements added.
@r.o.6180
@r.o.6180 2 жыл бұрын
Tried on my Xbox Series S (24" 1080p display) and PS5 (4k 55") it's an amazing demo. I was shocked!
@braiaposts
@braiaposts 2 жыл бұрын
Me too, it's Very good. But remember, it's a bad optimized demo. Ue5 optimized games will be awesome
@JasonZakrajsek
@JasonZakrajsek 2 жыл бұрын
24 and 55 foot TVs? Incredible!!!
@TerraWare
@TerraWare 2 жыл бұрын
@@JasonZakrajsek OP is ahead of all of us it seems lol
@greengamerguy623
@greengamerguy623 2 жыл бұрын
The Collapsing Bridge is an animation but I bet its technically a 'cached' chaos physics simulation played back.
@jamesryan3438
@jamesryan3438 2 жыл бұрын
Winamp! It really whips the llamas ass. Edit: totally got side tracked and forgot to thank you all for the amazing breakdown. You did great and thank you kindly!
@dragonskull473slayer9
@dragonskull473slayer9 2 жыл бұрын
This tech demo was insane definitely wasn't expecting the graphics to be so realistic
@sharathvasudev
@sharathvasudev 2 жыл бұрын
I lost it when they said the initial scene neo opening his eyes was rendered. I thought it was video playing.
@astroman310
@astroman310 2 жыл бұрын
It s still insane did you deleted it?
@LonghornsLegend
@LonghornsLegend 2 жыл бұрын
It was such a great surprise seeing this and being absolutely blown away. Just incredible. Can't recall the last time I've played a game and was visually blown away
@bdre5555
@bdre5555 2 жыл бұрын
I was totally blown away when first exploring the city in this on PS5. It's very close to photorealism
@astroman310
@astroman310 2 жыл бұрын
yeah the ps5 is strong enough for what its shown
@bdre5555
@bdre5555 2 жыл бұрын
@@astroman310 as is the series X. The PS5 runs the demo at a slightly higher frame rate, as digital Foundry showed in their analysis.
@93redcamaroz28
@93redcamaroz28 2 жыл бұрын
Spider-Man needs to feel like it’s this scale. The buildings feel SO much bigger in this than in any game I’ve ever touched.
@ryanschindler923
@ryanschindler923 2 жыл бұрын
This demo and seeing Hellblade Senua 2 are making me super excited for the future of games
@marty8370
@marty8370 2 жыл бұрын
Hellblade 2 looked boring as hell
@hog33333
@hog33333 2 жыл бұрын
Already excited now playing halo infinite and forza horizon 5! The future is now! Haha
@Rawnchie14
@Rawnchie14 2 жыл бұрын
The fact we can get this running on a console - before the improvements and optimizations coming with a new engine - is astounding. It's going to also guide PC performance and quality for games to sky high levels if console is squeezing this out.
@MichaelDoesLife
@MichaelDoesLife 2 жыл бұрын
It doesn't't look that impressive, dude. Chill.
@azziek3246
@azziek3246 2 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelDoesLife Ok dude
@paul1979uk2000
@paul1979uk2000 2 жыл бұрын
Do have to wonder what developers are going to be able to do with this engine on the PC, especially once the engine gets more optimized with this level of results on consoles.
@harlenkelly7331
@harlenkelly7331 2 жыл бұрын
This is just the first year of the consoles, developers will be able to get more out of the consoles as they get more accustomed to their intricacies.
@LauritzenLucas
@LauritzenLucas 2 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelDoesLife It's the best looking game ever made currently dude, chill.
@Mrdeniro100
@Mrdeniro100 2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the Switch version.
@jbway86
@jbway86 2 жыл бұрын
I see you sneaking that Winamp in there at 18:22. Because thats exactly what I was using to play music from back then. Best music player on PC.
@brewski535
@brewski535 2 жыл бұрын
"It really whips the llama's ass!"
@jbway86
@jbway86 2 жыл бұрын
@@brewski535 haha love that
@mtdubdachamp6917
@mtdubdachamp6917 2 жыл бұрын
Seeing this running on my PS5 was jaw dropping. I haven't been this impressed with something in a long time.. if this is the future of the next gen systems and PC then I'm glad I'm already on board. UE5 is a true beast. I can only imagine how flawless this looks on PC..
@griffgames9538
@griffgames9538 2 жыл бұрын
... with adequate CPU/GPU and crucially storage speeds.
@landfillao4193
@landfillao4193 2 жыл бұрын
As a PC player imagining is all I can do as well because we didn't get the demo. lol. Sounds like it'll come as a free update in Unreal Engine 5 but I'd like to play it without needing to download the whole engine. But whatever. I hope to try it at some point.
@mtdubdachamp6917
@mtdubdachamp6917 2 жыл бұрын
@@landfillao4193 damn I thought it was on PC as well.. well I can tell you it was jaw dropping imo. Just beautiful.
@colemin2
@colemin2 2 жыл бұрын
@@griffgames9538 A slow ssd will be fine for UE5 games.
@paul1979uk2000
@paul1979uk2000 2 жыл бұрын
@@mtdubdachamp6917 Sounds like it might be with the engine on release but clearly they wanted to try and impress with the new consoles first. Once games target PC and the new consoles only whiles using newer game engines to take advantage of them is when the real true next gen gaming begins because for now, games are cross gen whiles using engines that are designed for the last gen consoles. Still, I have to wonder what they could deliver on the PC if this is the results they are getting on consoles in an unoptimised form.
@sneakkyz3696
@sneakkyz3696 2 жыл бұрын
You gotta love and respect digital foundry for this stuff especially for the fact they get videos out so fast.
@MichaelDoesLife
@MichaelDoesLife 2 жыл бұрын
They need to get a real job
@nickabbott319
@nickabbott319 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@user-nt8dy4xw9r
@user-nt8dy4xw9r 2 жыл бұрын
This is the arrival of true next-gen graphics. Can’t believe what I’m watching.
@danielweiss4498
@danielweiss4498 2 жыл бұрын
Tim Sweeney Epic Games :"PS5's storage architecture is way ahead of anything currently available for purchase on PC for any amount of money." "I'm referring to actual speeds, not theoretical specs. The PS5 can transfer and decompress textures and geometries from memory directly to video memory, with no CPU decompression and driver abstraction overhead, making overall performance much higher than on the PC"
@griffgames9538
@griffgames9538 2 жыл бұрын
Remember: *This is an extreme stress test of Unreal Engine 5 on these MSRP $299-$499 consoles* with a sprawling seamless open world packed with activity and effects. Yes, the frame-rate buckles under that pressure but *this is due to sheer volume of geometry, assets, AI, and effects work pushing the consoles* Now, dial it back a bit. Very few Unreal Engine 5 games will go for this raw scale. Imagine "wide linear" games like Halo Infinite, Far Cry, etc. running on UE5. Imagine smaller scope yet densely packed and detailed games like Control on UE5. The consoles can certainly brute force through more conservative scope game designs on UE5, and 60fps is absolutely still on the table. We need to keep the demo's massive scope in perspective when criticizing the relative performance/frame-rate. There's no need to jump to conclusions like "the new consoles are back to 30fps now!" because we'll obviously see many different game types/world complexity in future UE5 titles on Series and PS5.
@icqpimp
@icqpimp 2 жыл бұрын
Great post. Only the top tier companies will (obviously) develop these games smartly to run properly with this new engine. Looking forward to it. Playing this thing on PS5 Friday I was just like: "This is THEE actual first-time next-generation game I've played on my console." Even the best first party games from Sony can't touch this. Not even Spider-Man Remastered, Miles Morales, or Last Of Us Part II.
@icqpimp
@icqpimp 2 жыл бұрын
I hear you. This game/demo has put all other games into perspective. They're all gonna be cross-gen. I can't do that. I'm not looking forward to that.
@julien2231
@julien2231 2 жыл бұрын
Dont use logic. Its not welcome here.
@AngryChineseWoman
@AngryChineseWoman 2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the PS5 Pro and the RTX 4 series
@LucDutra92
@LucDutra92 2 жыл бұрын
Totally. Just check out the latest Hellblade II trailer. Though it doesn't seem quite as impressive as the reveal trailer (maybe that was CGI afterall) it's still a huge evolution compared to past gen games.
@daeraloth1115
@daeraloth1115 2 жыл бұрын
For the price, that series S is one impressive little box.
@eliteteamkiller319
@eliteteamkiller319 2 жыл бұрын
This demo feels like a lucid dream when you're flying around with the drone. I started holding my breath every time I went up, to simulate what I do in lucid dreams (holding breath = floating). It's unreal. Well... lol yes I suppose "Unreal" is quite the appropriate word.
@kamikazehound3243
@kamikazehound3243 2 жыл бұрын
The Ps5 actually looks like it has very slightly sharper details
@mileshodge3477
@mileshodge3477 2 жыл бұрын
They look the same
@caiop.4972
@caiop.4972 2 жыл бұрын
This demo allayed my fears about Xbox Series S not being able to run true next-gen experiences.
@Rawnchie14
@Rawnchie14 2 жыл бұрын
It may not be the prettiest, but the features will be there, which is excellent news down the road as Series S continues to provide a pathway for gamers to next gen at a lower price tag.
@blenderguy2598
@blenderguy2598 2 жыл бұрын
I honestly have no horse in the console wars but it worries me also. I have a feeling it’ll hold back Xbox exclusives for this whole generation sadly. Meanwhile playstation devs only have one set hardware to work with. Time will tell though and maybe some Xbox exclusives will still blow my socks off down the line!
@supermadkid
@supermadkid 2 жыл бұрын
@@blenderguy2598 he said allayed his fears I.e. he's not worried about it anymore. Basically he's impressed at what the little machine is achieving in this highly demanding game. I am too. It's got 1/3rd the GPU power of series x and half of the ps5 but is producing almost identical results. Like nobody outside of DF could have noticed these differences even with a side by side except the obvious resolution differences. It only bodes well for the future of the machine.
@blenderguy2598
@blenderguy2598 2 жыл бұрын
@@supermadkid lol whoops, you are correct I completely glossed over his word choice and assumed. My mistake, that’s what I get for leaving a comment right before bed. Thanks for pointing out my error, I still stand by what I said that I still have my doubts about it. That being said, for this demo, the fact that series S is running it definitely does blow my mind too!
@richardtucker5938
@richardtucker5938 2 жыл бұрын
@@supermadkid its more like 2/5 the power of ps5 right? All the teraflops metrics are talking about peak calculations for each system.
@JimmyZeng
@JimmyZeng 2 жыл бұрын
I'm really impressed XSS could hold up that well.
@duckmobility33
@duckmobility33 2 жыл бұрын
Alex's face when Richard said John was the first to play it...
@NightfallAgent
@NightfallAgent 2 жыл бұрын
I love the Winamp Kazaa throwback (Clubbed to Death, matrix OST lol). The bespoke levels of this video are off the charts. Thank you guys!
@chinodigitalbath
@chinodigitalbath 2 жыл бұрын
Let's hope this tech transfers into future projects...its really very impressive and extremely surprising to see this kind of playable tech demo on consoles. Finally some true next gen software running on the new machines...
@alexsilva28
@alexsilva28 2 жыл бұрын
Hope? Lol what do you think they will use this tech on? Ofc it will be used in future projects
@chinodigitalbath
@chinodigitalbath 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexsilva28 Well, after there have been quite a lot of disappointing releases in the last couple of years, it for sure doesn't automatically mean that UE5 and this tech demo in particular is the saving grace of video games now...especially not if upcoming titles focus on graphics & presentation only 😉 there are big differences in the industry, especially budget wise. UE actually only is a "set of tools", it doesn't make the actual job of creating something obsolet... you still need a skilled team and millions of cash nowadays, in order to create a true next gen (blockbuster like) title, which looks, feels, runs and plays great...all at the same time and across different machines.
@sasukegodmode7213
@sasukegodmode7213 2 жыл бұрын
@@chinodigitalbath Because Ps3 and Ps4 were never good.
@genfactor3390
@genfactor3390 2 жыл бұрын
When Series X and PS5 came out I struggled to figure out what the big deal was. It took a year but I'm finally impressed.
@apimpnamedstepback1431
@apimpnamedstepback1431 2 жыл бұрын
Supply issues are holding this generation of consoles back.
@WllKiedSnake
@WllKiedSnake 2 жыл бұрын
@@apimpnamedstepback1431 And this hold back of this generation is why we have so many cross gen and remasters going on recently. Very easy to do those vs the bigger games.
@andymontanez56
@andymontanez56 2 жыл бұрын
Really? The jump was obvious at the beginning
@rogerm4a1
@rogerm4a1 2 жыл бұрын
@@andymontanez56 not this obvious though.
@GeniusCenaa
@GeniusCenaa 2 жыл бұрын
You didn’t watch the UE5 demo they showed in 2020 did you?!
@sergiocrivelinBr
@sergiocrivelinBr 2 жыл бұрын
Besides this amazing tech demo, I'd like to ask you guys to take a moment and appreciate the AMAZING job that Digital Foundry did reviewing this. This guys certainly are one of a kind on KZfaq. 😊
@Aaron25thinfantry
@Aaron25thinfantry 2 жыл бұрын
This is an exciting time to be gamer.. I started gaming on an Nintendo and to now be gaming at this level is mind boggling to me. Very impressive open world
@lilpp4791
@lilpp4791 2 жыл бұрын
Graphics aint shit if the developers have no souls or passion for the games they create
@astroman310
@astroman310 2 жыл бұрын
yep the ps5 and xbox will have a long life with this tecnology
@Waffle4569
@Waffle4569 2 жыл бұрын
You're praising the "geometry stability" but distant geometry is flickering hard (11:06, 12:04, 12:21, 12:43), which is almost worse than LOD transitions because its constant. Not that LOD pop is the end of the world, but it seems contradictory to what your saying.
@frostyone182
@frostyone182 2 жыл бұрын
This tech demo was absolutely stunning. Parts of it looked nearly indistinguishable from real life. I am so excited for this engine and the future of gaming. The only issue is the NPCs, once you start walking around. They kind of ruined it. Even then, the buildings look super realist and the sense of scale is unlike anything I’ve ever seen. I didn’t feel like I was a small person walking around a model city, like in every other game ever made. I actually felt the size of the buildings. If that makes any sense.
@seangalvin3196
@seangalvin3196 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. It made me excited for it's use in something like a Spider Man game. It looks so real that you would be nervous about jumping off something like a building. When it looks this real it's all feels so much more dangerous. I hope I'm explaining that right. Very exciting indeed! Oh yeah, I wonder if it will be more nerve racking and emotionally intense to fire a weapon at an NPC at close range when they look so real. Lots of interesting questions.
@autotropicplaybench1819
@autotropicplaybench1819 2 жыл бұрын
True but as a demo it seemed clear to me that they focused mostly on showcasing how well the Lumen lighting system scales on such a big area with a vast amount of buildings, traffic and rendered people over long distances all at once more than anything else - after all there's not much collision/physics mechanics other than the cars you drive ingame that don't explode for example, so it's clear making effort to add even more real NPCs wasn't the priority on the demo. Which is fine because that can always be refined by proper devs, and regardless of what people think of Epic (I myself still will not bother to get an Epic Games Store account), their Unreal Engine 5 demo is technically impressive
@izzyarland5304
@izzyarland5304 2 жыл бұрын
My eyesight is poor but yours must be worse. NPCs as you say look like anything out of a five to ten year old Assassin's Creed. Frame pacing is crap, no physics on anything that's not scripted, jaggies everywhere. Real life? I don't think so. But it's nice they made it free, obviously a good marketing move considering Warner Bros. paid Epic a bucketload of money to do this.
@johnlake2545
@johnlake2545 2 жыл бұрын
Nanite and Lumen were able to achieve such hyper realistic visuals for the city that MetaHuman, no matter how impressive it is, ends up looking like mammoth turd and irritating the hell out of the uncanny valey sense.
@pilouuuu
@pilouuuu 2 жыл бұрын
We need more A.I. Lots of it.
@boufenarafetooh
@boufenarafetooh 2 жыл бұрын
Finally games look like CGI trailers.
@hadriscus
@hadriscus 2 жыл бұрын
I had no idea the shot with Neo sleeping on his desk was NOT the original plate from The Matrix. The low light conditions make it easier to achieve, sure, but hell ! it's impressive.
@rowns814
@rowns814 2 жыл бұрын
Playing this blew me away. Can’t wait to see what the future holds.
@MichaelDoesLife
@MichaelDoesLife 2 жыл бұрын
Miles Morales looks just as good on PS5. Get real.
@rowns814
@rowns814 2 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelDoesLife I have MM on PS5, no it doesn’t. Go cry into your PS3. 🤣🤣
@maciekan
@maciekan 2 жыл бұрын
@@rowns814 I was thinking the same thing though, take miles on a walk and it's quite better with rtx, only difference i see is less vehicles.
@rowns814
@rowns814 2 жыл бұрын
@@maciekan it’s not just the walking around the city segment. It was mainly the car chase scene for me. That was next level immersion, I was gripped. Remember this is only a tech demo. I’m purely saying imagine what games will look like in 10 years with this kind of tech fully developed and optimised. People need to chill out.
@addidaswguy
@addidaswguy 2 жыл бұрын
@@rowns814 seriously, It's unbelievable! The fact that there was no visible pop-in, and you could see a building WAAAAAY out and just continually drive towards and it stays visible the entire time, I can't remember that in anything ever in a big city or world setting. Can't wait to see the future in 5-10 years. Also this makes me want a Spider-Man, Batman, AND a Superman game in a badass city like this.
@jal.ajeera
@jal.ajeera 2 жыл бұрын
I played this on my PS5 and it looks absolutely stunning!!! Frame rates are wonky though. But if the future is even 60% of this, it's going to be amazing!
@dom4591
@dom4591 2 жыл бұрын
I tried it on Series X yesterday and I think the low frame rate ruined the demo. Everything else was impressive though.
@krono5el
@krono5el 2 жыл бұрын
if you mess with the density setting it can run great.
@MichaelDoesLife
@MichaelDoesLife 2 жыл бұрын
I hope the future is nothing like this. Game looks like garbage.
@saputrasaputra3347
@saputrasaputra3347 2 жыл бұрын
ah so promising.. the future of gaming , 1080p 20fps as expected of weakbox and weakstation 5
@krono5el
@krono5el 2 жыл бұрын
@@dom4591 yeah but it doesnt stutter as much
@akaimizu1
@akaimizu1 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely a pretty impressive demo. Tried this on my XBX today. It's true that the buildings and such have no pop-in. The only pop-in is actually with the vehicles. They do have a limit of how much they actually draw the cars before they disappear, so if you move around high enough (like with the flying cam) you'll see where they suddenly pop-in. Needless to say, it's still impressive that the buildings do this. Also impressive is the distance the cars do render. If you don't go flying high, you'd never see where the cars stop. I would say they render far enough that if you are driving in a reasonably fast car (ground level), the cars/peds will render far enough to be just beyond vanishing point. While I would probably give this up to the limited time in developing this demo, the main distraction is that certain layered textures, for certain specific objects) spaz out. Like dirt map on a certain sidewalk texture that is flashing in and out. But I could say it fits as this *glitch* in the Matrix. You'll also see a funky shimmer at distance buildings at certain distances. The Pedestrian AI is definitely a step above, in most places. They avoid each other's and your character's path, and there is real collision used. Also, many people are good at going around various routes almost like they have somewhere real to go. They seem to also choose random path choices when they come to a place where they can choose a direction. I was thinking individuals had a fixed circuit or something, but I've stalked an NPC to see them almost do that Chaos theory thing when they approach the same location, if they make back around to it. I did find some very specific places, in the city, (one case, not far from those specific Chain-link fences shown in this video) where the pedestrian AI goes off the rails and just sits there walking into a wall. You can try to bump them to the sidewalk, but they'll just do their animation where they react and look at you and your audacity to bump into them, but won't really budge to fix themselves. I would guess that would take a little more hands-on massaging, of spots like that, to fix so that the AI doesn't get trapped there. Still, impressive demo, and definitely shows where they can go.
@TastyPapaya
@TastyPapaya 2 жыл бұрын
there's obvious pop-in at 13:46
@akaimizu1
@akaimizu1 2 жыл бұрын
@@TastyPapaya I do see what is sort of a geometry update on an existing object, but not full object pop-in. It's kind of like those glitches in the system, I was talking about. Especially when you see it on an object that is closer than other objects, and objects on the same line not doing the same.
@Dia1Up
@Dia1Up 2 жыл бұрын
I will say you can tell they spent the most amount of time on Keanu. The mouth movements when speaking in the intro is spot on. But when it shows Carrie-Anne walking showing the meta-humans, she is looking very CG, to my eye it's mostly the speaking movements
@galaxy_freezer8293
@galaxy_freezer8293 2 жыл бұрын
Regarding Series S and objects in the distance: Nanite tries to show every mesh with a tessellation level where every polygon equals one rendered pixel. Less rendered pixels => lower mesh resolution. More rendered pixels => higher mesh resolution. Therefore the difference in mesh quality for distant objects.
@jemandetwas1
@jemandetwas1 2 жыл бұрын
That's really unfortunate for 1080p gamers.
@lumking972
@lumking972 2 жыл бұрын
I can't wait to see companies holding back and not using the full potential of Xbox Series X and Playstation 5 just for the game to be able to run well on Xbox Series S.
@ehsanghazavi470
@ehsanghazavi470 2 жыл бұрын
@@lumking972 Last gen is what's going to hold back these consoles not the series s. This is such a stupid take
@Zakurablade
@Zakurablade 2 жыл бұрын
@@lumking972 they have been doing it to pc for years. Your argument is so flawed that it should hit you back.
@superioritymelee
@superioritymelee 2 жыл бұрын
@@lumking972 It won't hold them back cuz games will be designed with scalability in mind. So when developers go full next gen you'll see that PS5 and Series X will get all that 4k textures and stuff and Series S will be running those games with lower texture quality and resolution. And this kind of optimization is easy enough due to all consoles sharing same architecture.
@voodoovibes1909
@voodoovibes1909 2 жыл бұрын
I love the fact that Epic got The Coalition (unreal masters) to help with this project. Can't wait to see how Gears 6 will look.
@marwanyousif7456
@marwanyousif7456 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah gears of War 6 will be UE5 for sure
@jayclarke777
@jayclarke777 2 жыл бұрын
They needed to get The Coalition because the PS5 runs better on average. That 12Tflops has been outdone once again.
@Suavellous
@Suavellous 2 жыл бұрын
@@jayclarke777 how does it run better??? 😂 oh, you’re just fanboying. Like the ppl on twitter showing buildings rendered in on ps5 and not xsx, then didn’t bother showing buildings rendered in on xsx and not on ps5🤦🏻‍♂️
@idflr1
@idflr1 2 жыл бұрын
@@jayclarke777 one fps advantage. Watch the video again...
@SEVENTEENPOINT1
@SEVENTEENPOINT1 2 жыл бұрын
@@idflr1 In one scene too lol.
@Sinn0100
@Sinn0100 2 жыл бұрын
What I found so intensely cool about this demo was the sheer scope of the city and the tiny details on everything. I also really enjoyed just destroying cars to the point where the hazard lights turned on and the car pixelated into nothing. The draw distance was something I have never witnessed before in any game and I like the way the city looks without the Matrix filter. I did see a few cracks in the demo that most have not yet. There were a number of buildings that are sitting on top of water which looks wild. Also a bunch of the plinths to change day into night we're not appearing for me. I wish they gave us the option to change it in the menu. When you do find one that works the night cycle changes seamlessly and without any loading...impressive. Addendum- I played the tech demo on both the Xbox Series X and PS5. I honestly didn't see any real difference between the two. We have our 9th generation consoles running through two Samsung 55 inch QLED's.
@Kevin_2435
@Kevin_2435 2 жыл бұрын
Is that a record? The first time John says 'bespoke' is at 15 minutes.
@mixey01
@mixey01 2 жыл бұрын
Finally. The only tech analysis the whole gaming community has been anxiously waiting for 😊🙏
@HipnotikHylian
@HipnotikHylian 2 жыл бұрын
Not really lmao. I didn't give a fuck about this
@Beaut_Beau
@Beaut_Beau 2 жыл бұрын
@@HipnotikHylian Yet here you are commenting on it...
@RokkieSparrow
@RokkieSparrow 2 жыл бұрын
@@Beaut_Beau right 😬
@awesomegtadude1752
@awesomegtadude1752 2 жыл бұрын
@@HipnotikHylian lmfaoooo christ
@TheSolidfoxhound
@TheSolidfoxhound 2 жыл бұрын
@@HipnotikHylian Here's a lollipop 🍭 for you kiddo
@leonthesleepy
@leonthesleepy 2 жыл бұрын
Playing this blew my mind. Its the first time i've genuinely seen anything that made me think "oh this is next gen"
@carljthatsme94
@carljthatsme94 2 жыл бұрын
We're in for an insane gen. Imagine what smaller scale titles and full optimisation will bring
@astroman310
@astroman310 2 жыл бұрын
this is the true question
@thevikingbear2343
@thevikingbear2343 2 жыл бұрын
Nobody noticed that if you park a car in the middle of the highway or cause a massive crash and then you get out, go flying like a mile back to the highway ramp, get a new car then go back into the highway, then there is a huge congestion. And if you fight your way through it, then your old car is still blocking traffic. In any other game that old car would have disappeared the moment you went 100 ft away.
@teehundeart
@teehundeart 2 жыл бұрын
The temporal super resolution blew my mind. When the demo switched TSR on and off the difference was huge.
@bartfratze9529
@bartfratze9529 2 жыл бұрын
much better as the blurry mess TAA Temporal Anti Aliasing
@MichaelDoesLife
@MichaelDoesLife 2 жыл бұрын
Regardless of what tracks they have up their sleeve, it's still muddy 1080p. Sad. You can't play the demo without connecting to the internet first. They're going to eventually pull it.
@NeoTechni
@NeoTechni 2 жыл бұрын
The temporal stuff is always terrible
@NeoTechni
@NeoTechni 2 жыл бұрын
@Sonic all temporal effects look terrible. Control looked the worst.
@Patr1ck2332
@Patr1ck2332 2 жыл бұрын
@@bartfratze9529 infinite 👀
@ReginaldVannison7777
@ReginaldVannison7777 2 жыл бұрын
With these visuals, I think it’s safe to say next gen is finally here. It’s about damn time too.
@adk4986
@adk4986 2 жыл бұрын
I dont like it, as so far its sacrificing a lot of performance
@ReginaldVannison7777
@ReginaldVannison7777 2 жыл бұрын
@@adk4986 yeah that’s a huge cause for concern. I’m starting to wonder will the FidelityFX Super Resolution make a difference now.
@loitersquad93
@loitersquad93 2 жыл бұрын
The screen tearing and dropping frames was not it for me
@iamstartower
@iamstartower 2 жыл бұрын
Keanu: how do we know what is real? Me: hair animation. Proper gravity is a b1tch to duplicate...
@Cassp0nk
@Cassp0nk 2 жыл бұрын
Cyberpunk could do with some of this! The color grading in this demo is phenomenal. Straight from the movies.
@JVIoneyman
@JVIoneyman 2 жыл бұрын
If they fix the frame times, and the odd ghosting from what I am assuming is the upscaling, this will be a huge leap ahead.
@wingedhussar1453
@wingedhussar1453 2 жыл бұрын
Ghosting is worse then frame rate.30 fps is ok
@augenlutschen
@augenlutschen 2 жыл бұрын
I played the demo blind after waited for the damn countdown to end. It blew me away what it offered for a tech demo. A funny thing to do is a massive traffic jam, never seen before.
@Veo87
@Veo87 2 жыл бұрын
A new Insomniac Spiderman game made using Unreal Engine 5 exclusively for the PS5 (not a cross gen title) would be pretty impressive.
@tacoface7047
@tacoface7047 2 жыл бұрын
it looks incredibly close to uncanny valley, but the fact they've come so far to actually pass the curve is just amazing, it'll only get better from here on
@makemeinvisible1
@makemeinvisible1 2 жыл бұрын
My concern is that 30fps becomes the norm again on consoles. If there is no option for 60fps, I am out - just can't go back to this judder.
@theryan519
@theryan519 2 жыл бұрын
It’s why I moved to PC and I’ve been a console guy all my life. 60 has become the new minimum for me. Even 60 starts to feel and look janky once you play games at 100+ fps.
@TheBrightjay
@TheBrightjay 2 жыл бұрын
That’s why there be a ps5 pro in a couple of years
@makemeinvisible1
@makemeinvisible1 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheBrightjay Well, I fear the pro will rather be for hitting 8k - at 30fps 😢
@elbiggus
@elbiggus 2 жыл бұрын
I went through three stages when I tried this. I thought it was all just a video until the rooftop bullet time thing and then went "that's pretty cool, but it's not interactive so I won't get too excited", then the on-rail shooter started and I thought "OK, it's a *bit* interactive, but it's still constrained and highly scripted", then they handed the controls over and I did a little wee...
@saxoman1
@saxoman1 2 жыл бұрын
My exact reaction as well!
@quatz1981
@quatz1981 2 жыл бұрын
Super impressed that this is running on consoles. It looks tremendous.
@megazenn22
@megazenn22 2 жыл бұрын
"Running" 50ms lol
@ThePipojp
@ThePipojp 2 жыл бұрын
Both consoles have GPUs that are between a 3060 and a 3060ti in raw power, of course they would run It
@quatz1981
@quatz1981 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThePipojp Oh god ive started something here. Im well aware of the raw power of these systems. My point is that we are getting something of this quality on a home console. Its really showing what this gen is capable of which is something we haven't really seen yet.
@mitchellratliff6268
@mitchellratliff6268 2 жыл бұрын
Y yall weirdos always downplay consoles xbox and Playstation exclusives are light-years ahead of pcs yall lucky yall lucky yall have xbox exclusive otherwise yall a have ps2 graphics with yall world of war craft exclusive lol
@megazenn22
@megazenn22 2 жыл бұрын
@@mitchellratliff6268 this is the worst comment ive read all month
@rogerrtewwr4723
@rogerrtewwr4723 2 жыл бұрын
"there's no popin!" 13:46 bunch of texture popins
@garnetnelson1419
@garnetnelson1419 2 жыл бұрын
The first time EVER I been excited for next gen. Epic is standing up to their name as well as the Unreal engine name. 🙌🏽👍🏽🔥
@thewakandankingtchaka5331
@thewakandankingtchaka5331 2 жыл бұрын
The world reminded me of the recent Yakuza/Judgement entries. Can't wait small team of developers to get their hands on this. Great stuff
@LividCreature
@LividCreature 2 жыл бұрын
I think if Epic delivers all the tools in UE5 to everyone without a paywall or a big dev blockade we will be seeing some amazing creations. Additionally, if Rockstar isn’t using this for GTA6 it’s going to look cartoonish now that we’ve all experienced this.
@thewakandankingtchaka5331
@thewakandankingtchaka5331 2 жыл бұрын
@@LividCreature honestly though Rockstar and Naughtydog are the exception to that rule. I remember reading way back in late ps3 era that Naughtydog them self has a team developing engines for PS first parties and helping on their own engines. That may have now been transferred to Guerrilla Game possibly. And Rockstar had 1000+ developers working on Read Dead 2 which cost around half a billion to make. These juggernaut companies simply got the resources and time to make masterpieces with the help of master art directors. They will probably have most of these techniques implemented by the time their next games comes out.
@mota2028
@mota2028 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine a dead by daylight sequel in this engine
@WillFaustCuber
@WillFaustCuber 2 жыл бұрын
@@LividCreature I think Rockstar's in-house engine is probably advancing in a similar way to UE5, but just away from the public eye of course. For example what we saw with RDR2 on the PS4 was pretty crazy. I would definitely expect them to stay up to par with UE, but who knows until we actually see something from them haha.
@danfry909
@danfry909 2 жыл бұрын
I fired this up on my PS5 without seeing anything beforehand. I've been driving and flying around this city and my mind is utterly blown. I have never seen anything like this. We are in for a real treat gamers!
@freddiecunningham2860
@freddiecunningham2860 2 жыл бұрын
And I thought graphics has hit a plateau years ago I was blown also
@satellite964
@satellite964 2 жыл бұрын
Finally after many years the jump in tech feels like that of PS2 -> PS3. I was giddily watching the demo, felt like a kid again.
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