Hey all. Obviously 120 is evenly Divisible by 24. I falsely extrapolated the 3:2 pulldown required for 60 Hz to also apply at double the refresh rate and yeah, that’s some embarrassing sh*t. I’ll just be over here not living that down.

120 IS divisible by 24. 120/24 = 5. On 60Hz displays it must do 3:2 pulldown or Motion Smoothing, but not on 120hz displays. It can display it natively. PLEASE correct your video.

5:18 Wrong, 120/24=5, so a frame can be presented for 5 refreshes.

Caleb, thank you for this. Absolutely excellent video! I recently bought a Samsung QN 90 C and was unimpressed with filmmaker mode. Because of your video I went in to the settings and made a number of changes and now the picture has definite factor! Keep up the good work!

Thank you so much! I bought the U7N during the recent sale and was never conpletely happy with it because of the colors but putting it in film maker mode and turning the brightness up and setting the motion smoothing to custom and maxing it out (I love the smoothness) had made the tv much more enjoyable to watch as I no longer feel the need to constantly change setting while watching tv.

Thank you ,great explanation.

Very helpful video. Thanks

Loved this vid. I have always “calibrated” my TVs off of either really good Blu Rays or now 4K Blu rays, especially the Nature ones. The greens, blue and red seem to really be good to compare on them. I remember going online to get all these various settings and then start from there. The white level setups were painful. Hopefully the newer TVs are much better in their starting points on their respective modes.

So this doesn't at all explain why HDR looks dark. HDR10 looks like dim poo vs DV(IQ) and even some DV material (especially on Apple+) is authored to look very dim, sadly. There's a trade-off between preserving high luminance detail and APL (average picture brightness level). WHY CAN'T WE CONTROL THE TONE MAPPING?! Like Low, Medium, High? Ugh.

Very helpful. More like this.

Bravo, very informative!!

Glad this video was made. I recently just ditched filmmaker mode for those reasons. It's meant for a dark viewing environment and doesn't take into account your tvs display tech and its capabilities to optimise for its display type. I just stick with cinema mode now. 2.2 gamma and a bit of motion smoothing to alleviate the stutter etc. Still has accurate colours

I love this video. I'll keep this in mind when I digital load my home movies to watch on the 4k TV. Thank very much Digital Trends.

I like soap opera and I eq my music, wooo I'm not a purest. I want the tv to look the way I want it not the original producers intent. I don't like watching two people talk in the dark where all you see is teeth and eyes reflecting light (Batman movies for example) but glad that there are different modes so that everyone can find a setting they prefer.

Great breakdown of the picture mode. That said, are you presenting this as a simple option for consumers, or should they still inform temselves on calibrating the tv?

The backlight in my set recently went out..I was ready to run out and buy a new one, but after a few days, I found the darkness quite appealing.. it's hard to make out some images, but it is so easy on the eyes..who knew..

Caleb, where do ya get the camo polo shirt from?

One of my favourite videos. Thank you for making it.

I have an OLED LG GX TV and a QD-OLED Alienware ultra wide monitor. So film maker modes, HDR mode, and Dolby Visions modes are my favorite. No complaints from me

Correction 24 is divisible into 120hz But if you're streaming then a lot of the time it's being refreshed at a standard 60hz anyway. But you have a real cinema mode or whatever its called on other tvs to apply the correct cadence. The problem with stutter on 24fps content is with how the display tech shows each frame. Which is especially problematic on OLED where pixel response is perfect and you have each frame being kept on screen till the next one in what's called sample and hold which is why low frame rate content appears to stutter. It's tolerable but I prefer using some motion smoothing now to mitigate it. Also that's why black frame insertion exists but you lose brightness with that method of course

I have a Panasonic LZ2000 and when watching movies I tend to leave the set in Filmmaker Mode, but leave on the ambient light sensor and the auto white balance. To be honest it’s a credit to the processing in the TV that I don’t notice the picture change when going from lights on to lights off in my viewing room. The TV adapts the picture so well and so quickly I don’t notice the difference. I’m totally happy with the picture it produces.

Thanks for this. I agree that filmmaker mode is too dark to watch the tv during daytime. With my samsung s95d my preferred setting is film mode. This mode works great for both day and night time

5:29. Um. 120/5 = 24. That’s evenly divided.

On my LG C1 I have full control over all picture settings while in FILMAKER mode, I can tweak and adjust these settings and the picture looks amazing

I agree. I love Filmmaker Mode, but for Non-HDR film and shows, I do set the dynamic brightness to high so I still get a brighter picture than intended. The jutter isn't an issue for me since my TV does have a mode where the panel refreshes and the same frame rate as the film. For HDR films, I do not do anything, I do like the intended filmmaker mode look on my LG C3 OLED, and Dolby Vision is my absolute favorite kind.

Do you recommend turning on match framerate on the Apple TV? I have it turned on so my Hisense tv shows it’s doing 24fps. But as you said, that’s not easily divisible. So is it better to leave it at 60 fps? I’ll say that I do watch in a pitch black basement and I do enjoy watching the movies in their original intent. So I have all the post processing turned off in my tv.

Could Digital Trends create a video that I (and others) could play my TV that would help to dial in all these settings? The video could contain images and video that highlight each setting to be altered, and how to recognise when you have reach a sweet spot.

5:17 Why do you keep saying this about 120Hz?🤔120 / 24 = 5

@4:50 - adaptive frequency monitor/display will play various FPS smoothly ( no judders) unless the FPS is too low ( but that's not judder)

Thanks for the analysis. I have an S95C and Filmmaker mode does suck in its basic form so I never use it. I'm one of those do-it-my-way Philistines and prefer different settings.

Thank ,God for film Making Mode. Film buff here.& a Boomer .Just got my 1st Smart T.V. hated the up scaling & other AI tools that made the film I was watching look like cut outs or a video game ( & why do younger folks hate gain..?). But than I found picture mode & Film making mode..I'm so glad I did..As far as watching in a pitch black room..Most of the time I watch my film classic films or others at night any way..Also I've seen most films I have in a theater, so I already know what that experience was like.

Perfect timing! I just got a C3 over the weekend and it’s blowing my mind. I use Filmmaker Mode and boost the brightness a little bit. Can’t wait to get my UB820 this weekend to really see what this tv can do.

I love how plainly you explain these complicated settings. Thank you! I bought my Sony Master Series tv based on your recommendation. Best decision I made in my theater room.

I've grown accustom to dolby vision dark. Looks so good.

Best thing if accuracy is what you are after is to probably get your TV calibrated for both a dark and bright room. So a setting for daytime viewing and one for serious watching at night. My Sony and LG OLEDs have for example Dolby Vision Dark and light modes that do this for you..of course just for Dolby vision content.

I definitely don't like on overly warm color temperatures, judder of film grain. And honestly sometimes the "director's intent" is horrible. It results in movies like some of the DC movies (Superman, Justice League, etc) where the colors are way under saturated.

120/24 = 5

I’ve rarely watched in Filmmaker mode. Instead of monkeying with the setting within it I use the modes within hdr like standard. And tweaked it a little. Works for my eyeballs.

I just purchased a Samsung QN80c 75" with FMM enabled and calibrated, it looks amazing in day or night viewing! I have always been an adapter of whatever mode gets me closest to theatre like viewing. Weather it be MOVIE mode or ISF or Cinema. My eyes just like the way it looks. There is no right or wrong. Its YOUR eyes. Your TV. DO what you want with it! Though I must say when I see someone with a set that is not using one of those mentioned modes, I cringe lol.

Standard with adjusted settings is way better. Also, Samsung had a "natural" mode in old models, which was great.

Still rocking my Pioneer Kuro, 2nd one I've had & love it. Praying it lasts for years cos I have no desire to buy a new TV. Too many settings 🤯 Set the Kuro to Pure mode day one & never touched it since, day light night time makes no difference, always looks fantastic ❤

speaking of the hisense U8N 55” model what is posturization? and is it a thing?

Best picture settings for lg g4 oled tv are,for hdr 10,go with film-maker, mode 👌 colour at 50,or 55,turn off dynamic contrast, turn off all clarity 😀 👍 apart from motion, turn off colour adjustment, for Dolby vision, use home cinema, mode with the same settings for hdr10,,enjoy 😮🤓🤓,also black level put on 49,or even 48,

"no overbrightening in filmakermode" is false on the LG G4 in SDR. Industry standard for brightness in SDR is 100 nits which corresponds to a pixel brightness setting of 20 on the G4 (for dark room viewing). SDR filmmaker mode is set to 80 out of the box. "Expert" users (like for color grading) also recommend a pixel brightness setting between 20 - 35 for following industry standards instead of the standard 80. Even the G4's isf expert dark room is set at 60 in SDR, which looks way to bright for users used to a nit brightness of 100 - 120 in SDR.

I only use Custom picture mode because to my eyes all the other Sony modes suck. I set it to look the most natural and it works for everything, then the only adjustment I make is the brightness of the backlight LEDs.

I recently got the Hisense U7K, and overall it's good (though sometimes i get that red blur/smear thing going on), but I'm writing because I watch The Ranch, on Netflix (Dolby Vision) which used to be fine but now somehow is extremely dim/dark and I don't know how to fix it

This is a bit off-topic but still involves Filmmaker mode. I recently purchased an LG C3. When I use my Apple TV, both of the Expert modes (bright and dark), the Sports mode and the Auto Power save mode are unavailable. Filmmaker mode is only available under the advanced settings where the TV automatically uses it when the content is available for it. Filmmaker mode is not available on the main settings with the other picture modes, so I can't use it at will. When I watch TV on the LG web OS, all the modes are available (including Filmmaker) except Cinema Home, which is available when I watch Apple TV. Why are certain modes not available on Apple TV and Cinema Home is not available on web OS? Is there something in the settings I need to tweak or is this an issue with the Apple TV itself?

Thanks for that

For Sony TVs, Custom/Professional is the equivalent of Filmmaker Mode. Correct? So far, my only issue with this mode is underrsaturated colors when playing Rec.709 1080p Blu-rays and 480i DVDs. The color on my 4K UHD HDR10 and Dolby Vision Blu-rays looks fantastic in this mode. Yet when watching 1080p Blu-rays and SD 480i DVDs on older plasmas and CRTs, the colors look just as fantastic. This suggests to me that yesterday's displays were designed for the Rec.709 color space, while today's displays are designed for the BT.2020 color space. While director's intent is being achieved in HDR10 and Dolby Vision, if today's displays by default aren't converting SDR Rec.709 to HDR BT.2020, wouldn't undersaturation when playing older formats be preventing today's displays from revealing proper color reproduction, and therefor, not adhering to creator's/director's intent? On my Sony X90L, I have discovered that the best thing to do in the Custom picture mode is when playing SDR Rec.709 discs, set Live Color to Medium, and when playing 4K UHD Blu-rays encoded in HDR10 and Dolby Vision, set Live Color to Off being that they don't need any enhancements. Unless display manufacturers figure out how to properly convert SDR Rec.709 to HDR BT.2020, when playing 1080p Blu-rays and SD 480i DVDs, it looks like it's up to us to use features such as Samsung's Color Booster, Sony's Live Color, etc., and set them to a level at which the colors are accurate and vivid without making skin tones oversaturated in order for them to look as good as 4K UHD Blu-rays encoded with HDR10 or Dolby Vision. Make sense?

12:31 I just leave my Sony on custom mode for Dolby vision. I leave it on dark and I just turned down The living room lights and close the shades. And for HDR I leave my Sony on theater HDR theater to me. Me gives the best accuracy that I like

I have a Panasonic OLED that in Filmmaker Mode has perfect color accuracy in SDR and HDR and is a real pleasure to look at. But yes, Filmmaker Mode does assume that you're in a pitch black room which very few people are going to do. It would have been better if they had gone with Filmmaker Dark Room and Filmmaker Bright Room. I upped the brightness as well. No motion smoothing though, I really hate the soap opera effect and never notice judder. I just let the mediaplayer play out the original frame rate without tampering to higher rates. Never any issues with that.

İ bought a new Samsung tv, turned on the filmmaker move and it looks exactly like my ten years old sony bravia out of box picture

Filmmaker mode + DTM on is a good middle ground between accuracy and the extra eye-candy you get from Vivid mode.

On my samsung 4k qled curve tv, I always use the dynamic mode video setting with hdr with the screen brightness maxed out and backlight maxed out. I use these settings intentionally for the most color saturation and to make the display very bright including hdr with dimming zones set to the lowest settings. I wish there was an option to completely turn off the dimming zones on my tv but since there is no option, I have the dimming zones on the lowest settings because I don't like dim displays. I even have power savings off and auto brightness off since power savings and autobrightness is too low and. I need the brightest settings with the most color saturation because I'm already used to it. I want the display to always be very bright like the equivalent of turning on a flashlight to its highest brightness settings. I'm used to using very bright displays since I developed the habit for so many years that I lost track of how many years that I max out the brightness 24/7 with static images on purpose.

Thank you! One of your best videos. There is indeed a big disconnect between "director's intent" and the TV technology and viewing environment. I've seen people force themselves to suffer an unpleasant filmmaker mode for ideological reasons. People in the comments are giving you a bit of a hard time here for getting the judder issue wrong. Actually, I think the truth is somewhere in between. Judder cannot be completely avoided even if the refresh rate is divisible by the frame rate (120 Hz / 24 FPS = 5). The problem is that in real world situations that doesn't happen 100% consistently. A TV is simply not an analog projector and digital formats are not film reels. So some judder correction is a good idea if you want it to get the best cinema-like experience. What I'm personally hoping for is TV manufacturers leverage VRR, a feature many new TVs have, for judder reduction, as a replacement or complement for frame interpolation. These days VRR is used for gaming, but it could probably do a lot for 1:1 representation of film frame rates.

Wow, Caleb, you are smashing these info videos. Fantastic presentation my friend 👏👏

Adjusting the brightness in Filmmaker Mode is the easiest way for me to see natural image.

I like vivid in my lg 4k projector

I finally got a LG OLED TV, the C3, and I can tell you that Filmaker mode looks so much better on a 120hz OLED TV than on an LCD TV, as does Dolby Vision which used to drive me insane. So I guess my point is that it also depends on the TV you have.

9:20 Some people don't like Filmmaker mode exactly because of that, they find the picture too yellow. But once you get accustomed to it, you can't go back to cold, blueish picture.

The problem is you need more than a 10 to 12 minute video to explain HDR correctly. Have live discussion with other professionals and do a explanation and a Q&A, and make it over an hour or as long as it needs to be. There's no limit to how long a KZfaq video can be.

Any help for someone with a LG C2? I have read so many conflicting web pages or videos suggesting which modes to use.

If you just want to know what to do, skip to 8:00 That step by step guide really should have been the start of the video. Do the summary first, then explain the reasons and details afterwards.

Is there a normal mode, don’t want to mess with brightness, contrast and other picture settings, some programs look dark with greenish tint on faces, I have everything as sent from the factory

I found this video interesting and informative. I have a dumb question: My Sony TVs have Cinema mode. Is this the equivalent of Filmmaker mode in all respects?

Great video once again. I love vivid mode in HDR on my c1! I think this look's the best for me, no fuss. Keep the great information coming DT🎉

There was a time when you switched on your TV tweaked the brightness, contrast and colour then sat back and enjoyed the content. But not today, now you have to spend ages tweaking all the options some of which are blocked until you change more settings, so at some point you settle back only to fall asleep part way through the content. Some may call it progress, i just can't be bothered with it all. Yes i am a ludite with CRT and Plasma TV's that don't require hours of adjusting all the modes.

I don't like Filmmaker Mode

I configure my TV (LG C4) to what looks good to me. I do not give a tuppence what settings anyone else uses and / or are supposed to be better or more correct. It's my TV and I am the only person who ever watches it. I doubt any of my settings would pass muster with the cinemaphile crowd to be honest and the more disjointed my settings are compared to theirs, the more content I am (because they look like crap on a consumer TV thought they might look great at the local cinema).

120 divides into 24 and thats why 120hz tv's use 5:5 pulldown as opposed to 3:2 pulldown of 60hz tvs

120 is divisible by 24. It's called 5:5 pulldown also

Who makes that camo polo shirt?

Hey Caleb. Many thanks for making this great video🙌🏼. Would it be possible for yourself, or Digital Trends to do a similar video on tv Sports Modes ? I am an avid sports enthusiast who loves different sports from all over the world❤. But, depending on the sport you are watching football(sorry, soccer), American Football, Australian Rules Football (trust me it’s a definitely a sport & realise a running theme here😂), pool, golf , cricket (World Cup in US 2024), basketball, the list is infinite 😂, brightness, judder, haloing etc can vary massively on the tvs. Also you have to incorporate what native the sports provider is broadcasting in (can be different definitions due to the speed of the game, amount of cameras used, etc), plus what device, if not the tv apps, we are watching in & differs on tv depending which area of the world your watching in🌍. I know there is an awful lot to cover, but any help for myself & I’m sure many others would be greatly appreciated 😁. Digital Trends fan from the UK

I find on a Samsung cu8000 TV the HDR icon does not show in picture options but does in all others including dynamic, standard, game, and movie. Does that mean HDR is off in film maker mode? Also my panny blu ray btp180 no longer shows 24hz option, where it did on an au8000 🙃

My "Filmmaker Mode" in my Sony TV, i just put on the custom mode, and i do this: LIVE COLOR, ADVANCED CONTRAST enhancer, NOISE REDUCTION, DIGITAL NOISE, BLACK LEVEL and MOTIONFLOW: All OFF, and COLOR, SHARPNESS and BRIGHTNESS on 50, and CONSTRAST on a 100%. PS: REALITY CREATION on AUTO.

I got a new LG C3 77" OLED, and I put it into Filmmaker mode out of the box, and I hated how dark it was, and now I know why! That being said, can anyone with the same TV tell me which mode to put it in for a brighter/better image, and also what to set the "gamma" to? I also HATE, HATE, HATE the soap opera effect, so bonus points if you can tell me the settings to turn off any setting which would allow this!

For Filmmaker Mode on my LG CX, the movies were way too judder-y for my liking compared to the Cinema mode on our Sony X950G. I put the lowest setting of motion smoothing and de-judder and it was much better to watch imo

Your thumbnail is really misleading. I thought this would be a discussion about HDR being dark. Which it was not. HDR isn't just a feature for movies so having seen your thumbnail I was a little confused having not read the title. Was an interesting video regardless. Thanks for the info.

MOST people don’t give ANY shit about how the TV is set up. They don’t care about SOE, brightness issues, stutter, even wrong aspect ratio, they just don’t see any of that. It just makes me sad seeing how most of the people watch their TVs. And the most sad part is that the defaults are usually as shitty as possible, and that’s what most people will use

Judder is not a "side effect" of going from 24-120fps, rather it's most noticeable on displays with fast response times (like OLED) as they *correctly* display the low framerate of the source material. The apparent judder is just due to the low framerate, period.

Any reason why Sony TVs don't have filmmaker mode?

Why do I feel it's a deja vu happening to me!? Wasn't this topic already covered as part of 'you asked' series? Caleb, while he's away on vacation, made sure to keep his kids busy with something, a pacifier before he 'feeds' us again 🤣

I use Cinima Home on my G1. Its accurate enough for me and brighter than Filmmaker. I like to keep filmmaker stock and not mess with the settings. I reserve fIlmmaker mode for SDR and cable viewing for fear of burn-in with static images. I did not know new tvs have a Netflix and Prime modes. Cinima Home is best for 4k bLu Rays to me at least.

I wish filmmaker mode on the LG TV forcibly grayed out all the options. Sort of like how it does that when you’re playing video games like certain options aren’t available.

Long story short: filmmaker mode makes your picture look lifeless with unwatchable stutter. If you paid for a high end tv for a beautiful picture, NEVER use it! I’ve had LG OLED’s for the past 8 years and I use Cinema mode and add the post picture processing I like to make the picture as beautiful as possible. If you’re going to use filmmaker mode don’t buy an expensive tv

Is this the same as "Cinema" mode?

I watch about 80% tv (mostly sports); and 20 movies via apps UHD discs BD discs. Sounds like FILMAKER MODE may not be for me. What is the original intend of the director of this live Stanley cup playoff game? what about for an episode of blue bloods through my cable DVR?

And which color gamut to use? R709, DCI-P3, BT2020? I have on auto, this means SDR is mostly in R709, HDR in BT2020. Why is most of the SDR content in R709? The colors are washed out. Use of DCI-P3 for SDR would be much better. Or not? But even so, for me, SDR pops more then HDR :( SDR is brighter and more colorful. If i change gamut for SDR, first DCI-P3, the picture pops out, but some of the colors to much. If i choose BT2020 for SDR, the picture pops out even more, but its too much of red.

I’m not a fan of the brightness. On my LG OLED I use Cinema for HDR10 and Cinema Home for DV and manually disable all of the post processing other than DTM in HDR10 and set both to Warm50

HDR was NOT explained in this video. Remove it from title. But yes you need a make an in depth video on HDR

in lg tv i put the dark room mode

Using the Filmmaker Mode, and making Adjustments to Please your Eyes 👀, kinda Defeats the Purpose!

I miss the days where you could just put a blu ray in and standard looked good, now days there’s a million settings and hdr is a mess like Dolby vision is to dark on a lg g3

5 x 24 = 120. Shooting Research at 120 with later downconversion to 24 is even getting you much nicer motion blur than shooting at 24 with typical shutter angle. But main point: going from 120 to 24 is no problem as is matches exactly 5 refreshs / flashes

Hi. I have an LG OLED, is it normal that the brightness of a oled is not as high as the brightness of a QLED?

That was me. I bought an LG G4 and tried the Film Maker Mode. After 10 seconds I turned it off because it looked dark and yellowish😁

Surely the picture mode you chose on your tele is the one your eyes prefer? I don’t like filmmaker mode as it’s far too dark to my eyes.

Please we need a full video explaining hdr

120 isnt divisible by 24. erm..... what!?

I have cali calibrated my TV. I have blackout curtains and only watch in complete darkness, the way you should. Any other way is savagery.