HDR10, Dolby Vision, and HLG: How does high dynamic range video work? | Upscaled

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4 жыл бұрын

With more content and compatible TVs available every day, HDR video is the best way to get amazing looking video in your home. But as we learned making this video, it's also a lot more complicated than it seems (and no we didn't master this in HDR). Add in three or four competing standards, and there's a lot to unpack.
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@neodonkey
@neodonkey 4 жыл бұрын
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@zeuskyst
@zeuskyst 4 жыл бұрын
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@lordturtle8735
@lordturtle8735 3 жыл бұрын
Dolby vision video brags about their "color scientists"
@ClaudioGrecoPhD
@ClaudioGrecoPhD 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly? I do have a PhD in Signal and Image Processing, so now I would know which TV to buy... but I can't afford it.
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@my_namejeff9770
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@3737rob
@3737rob 4 жыл бұрын
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@DR128BIT
@DR128BIT 4 жыл бұрын
Before 2016 all I knew was that 4K > 1080 and OLED > LCD. I had no idea about HDR, Dolby Vision, Dolby Atmos, refresh rate and nits. I own a 65 inch LG OLED C6 that is capable of 3D, HDR10 at 60hz and Dolby Vision at 30hz. I have an Apple TV 4K hooked up to it, but I mostly use the KZfaq app in WebOS. What I want is a real 8K Apple big screen television.
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@milansajan1001 4 жыл бұрын
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@paganizondasroadster1660
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@jovontowns591
@jovontowns591 4 жыл бұрын
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@lucasrem
@lucasrem 4 жыл бұрын
Jovon BlackPixel You do Chroma Key compression or on 4:4:4 to see this? 12 bit color depth? understanding it, not need to understand, just buy the best? evolved, you, why that, video recorder guy? now on HEVC levels?
@PeterJansen
@PeterJansen 4 жыл бұрын
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@1mezion
@1mezion 4 жыл бұрын
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@attlue
@attlue 4 жыл бұрын
The person in the video is like Richard Leadbetter of Digital Foundary, the way he expresses with those hands. I approve. Great video by the way, keep it up.
@mandobot
@mandobot 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve been a hobbies photographer for years, and you just explained the gamma curve to me in a way that I actually understand it.
@Sailabear11
@Sailabear11 3 жыл бұрын
Puts a whole new twist on reciprocity failure doesn’t it? :-)
@gnosis7662
@gnosis7662 3 жыл бұрын
HDR is a total game changer! I just upgraded to my first 4K HDR Sony TV and was blown away by the enhanced contrast and color achieved in HDR, especially Dolby Vision. It's very difficult to go back and watch regular SDR content now. It's really a difference of night and day!
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@KabukeeJo
@KabukeeJo 3 жыл бұрын
And finding that one perfect TV that supports all of these HDR type formats is a PAIN!!
@MrCoCoVerade
@MrCoCoVerade 4 жыл бұрын
The quality of Dolby Vision is unreal. Props to them for making an international standard. Now with Dolby Atmos and Dolby Vision there’s really no need to go to a theater. They consistently deliver a perfect experience for the everyday person.
@lolerie
@lolerie 4 жыл бұрын
HDR10+ is already finalized, all of it is internal Dolby vision (also IcTcP color space but not really important). And it is a standard for Blu-ray now. Mandatory.
@lolerie
@lolerie 4 жыл бұрын
@Pho Tato no you do not need it. Extra fee only for Dolby Atmos Headphones, not for theatre.
@AKSBSU
@AKSBSU 4 жыл бұрын
I was shocked at how much better Dolby Vision made Aquaman look despite being transferred from a 2K intermediate.
@lolerie
@lolerie 4 жыл бұрын
@@AKSBSU it is because there is a different calibration for Dolby vision vs HDR10. And actually dolby vision is wrongly calibrated. There is not so many differences between them except that ICtCp can give more colors with lower bitrate and dynamic metadata is a little better than Dynamic Tone mapping. But idrally there should not be many differences.
@Infection3d
@Infection3d 4 жыл бұрын
Engadget videos/content have improved so so much over the years!
@wIzKid16100
@wIzKid16100 4 жыл бұрын
And here I thought I learned everything there is to know, with this information I’ve become more power than you can imagine.
@SpawnViper4
@SpawnViper4 4 жыл бұрын
Ok, so here i was a cinema enthusiast (or so i thought) having knowledge of the basics, but you have come along again to to teach me everything i knew and everything i had questions for regarding the things i knew. I need to stop working so hard and just watch and support Chris' content. He:ll never lead us astray.
@the-abhishek-yadav
@the-abhishek-yadav 4 жыл бұрын
This is probably the best tech explainer series available on KZfaq and in this universe. Just blown away by the shear among of detailed knowledge you give in videos. Thank you very much.🤗🤘🏻
@danielseguin913
@danielseguin913 4 жыл бұрын
Wow. This is perhaps one of the best presentation out there about this subject. The what, the how, the why, the who. Everything is there. Bravo! Great video. A gem. Liked and subscribed.
@NathanaelNewton
@NathanaelNewton 4 жыл бұрын
This is by far the best explanation of HDR I seen yet!
@stafonvoncamron
@stafonvoncamron 3 жыл бұрын
High Dynamic Range = everything that the eyes see.
@ChunkyThePotato
@ChunkyThePotato 4 жыл бұрын
This needs to be spun out into its own channel. It's excellent. I'm probably not going to subscribe to Engadget because the vast majority of their videos don't interest me enough, but Upscaled is awesome. Super detailed explanations in a very engaging format.
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@alekseibarulin3511 3 жыл бұрын
Short, informative, everything in 1 video, saved me a lot of time. thank you.
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I haven't been to Engadget for a while and I'm extremely and pleasantly surprised to see this kind of high level, detailed and explained content, seriously this is far beyond anything I've seen from you guys in years. I was under the impression that you had totally casualized your tech reporting and you audience, I'll be visiting your site, Fantastic video
@DrTarekahmad
@DrTarekahmad 3 жыл бұрын
Upscaled are the best videos on Engadget, this guy is awesome and very knowledgeable.
@DevilNeverKnows
@DevilNeverKnows 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't expect to learn so much today, and in under half an hour too
@ebojager
@ebojager 7 ай бұрын
Wow, 3 years later and such a great video, thank you! Really helps me understand things related to HDR.
@Bellyflops2
@Bellyflops2 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty good explanation of a somewhat complicated subject
@HasanZobaer
@HasanZobaer 3 жыл бұрын
Perfectly explained almost everything there is to know about HDR! Quality video there!
@jesusinclan5879
@jesusinclan5879 4 жыл бұрын
This is a great video to show your kids when they want the latest smart TV. If they can explain and understand all the content in this video then they deserve a smart TV. I have headache now. Lol
@kishores7034
@kishores7034 4 жыл бұрын
Man these upscaled videos are very well explained you can start a university for explaining tech
@jadakazz
@jadakazz 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent Overview Of The HDR Standards.
@joshlikescola
@joshlikescola 3 жыл бұрын
I've done all this stuff at university and frankly learned quite a bit! Everything I already knew seems spot on in terms of accuracy 👌
@LaconicPersuasion
@LaconicPersuasion 4 жыл бұрын
Love the attention to detail and the ease with which it is conveyed ! Chris are you on any podcasts ?
@SurviveUntilSunrise
@SurviveUntilSunrise 4 жыл бұрын
You guys did a good job. i understood like 3/5ths of that. I might watch this a few more times to fully understand.
@jpgarcia6459
@jpgarcia6459 4 жыл бұрын
yrs of video production class and film school all in a 15 min video. great job guys...
@bardokobama1035
@bardokobama1035 4 жыл бұрын
man i love this this is soo good i feel as a nerd i always need this
@JoshGmit
@JoshGmit 4 жыл бұрын
Oh man, instead of my teacher trying to explain color spaces and HDR, he just should played that video xD Best explainer i´ve seen so far for that topic :)
@007.M-D
@007.M-D 4 жыл бұрын
Quick Sharp to the Point, and fun to watch. Congratulations. 👍
@BaghaShams
@BaghaShams 4 жыл бұрын
This was really informative and I actually learned a lot!
@PatrickCoble
@PatrickCoble Жыл бұрын
I can't believe how good this video is. Bravo.
@v.a.i.s.a.k
@v.a.i.s.a.k 4 жыл бұрын
Holy molly. It should be floated as a semester course. This should be the benchmark for tech-informative videos. Simply best.
@Jona69
@Jona69 3 жыл бұрын
This video was the best explanation I've seen so far.
@paulunga
@paulunga 4 жыл бұрын
Very well explained. Even a few years into 4K and with 8K on the horizon, I find the gains in resolution to be almost negligible at normal viewing distance. But HDR is definitely something that can make certain movies and video games look much better. It'd be just nice if there weren't that many standards involved and wildly varying levels of peak brightness from screen to screen. An HDR400 monitor is kind of lackluster compared to a screen with an actual peak brightness of 1000 nits. (though it can still look noticably nicer than SDR)
@dhenztm2554
@dhenztm2554 3 жыл бұрын
Great job in explaining a surprisingly complicated topic! 👏
@pranjalvats46
@pranjalvats46 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome. So much of information to grasp.. Maybe I will have to watch a couple of times to completely dissolve it homogeneously into my mind....
@Mustafa_9628
@Mustafa_9628 3 жыл бұрын
A moment of appreciation for the legends the understood everything this guy said in this video
@siamakpoursabahian539
@siamakpoursabahian539 5 ай бұрын
A brilliant explanation gama-curved for general understanding. This is the HDR of instructional videos for highly technical topics.
@gliari
@gliari 4 жыл бұрын
Finaly a proper explanation of HDR with the right amount of science!
@saiprasadchavan3178
@saiprasadchavan3178 4 жыл бұрын
Bro I just can't store your detailed explanation in my brain..I have to watch it again with slow motion.👍👍✌👌
@bobcoco6047
@bobcoco6047 4 жыл бұрын
The bit depth of my neurons seem to allow me to understand that stuff, I'm glad I updated my firmware to HDB16++ (High Dynamic Brain ) :D
@Xero_Wolf
@Xero_Wolf 4 жыл бұрын
@14:05 That weird moment when part of his had disappears. I'm guessing something in the background they cut out but didn't expect his hand to be all up there. lol
@elvinventucillo4501
@elvinventucillo4501 4 жыл бұрын
What i spent months in reading and asking questions in fora i now understand by watching this video.
@scorpiocali53
@scorpiocali53 4 жыл бұрын
Love that someone take the time to explain these different kind of HD formats. I have the LG oled C8 and I always have set up my regular broadcast channels in HDR and it shows a way better digital broadcasting. In case of Netflix or Amazon prime video, etc.There is not much to do. They already have their own Dolby standards settled.
@waseemaq
@waseemaq 4 жыл бұрын
Very articulate, you just explained most video technology terminology easiest way possible, now I can understand gamma curve way better, how analog signal quantized in digital and then reprocessed backwards for human analog consumption, great job in explaining this. I do have a wishlist for you to explain 24hz vs 60hz vs 120 have.g cinema vs soap opera. Thank you.
@jerodbjx
@jerodbjx 4 жыл бұрын
That was a great explanation of the standards.
@mohandark
@mohandark 4 жыл бұрын
By far the best video on HDR.
@Otis151
@Otis151 4 жыл бұрын
These videos are fantastic. Keep up the great work.
@TheAlienGangster
@TheAlienGangster 3 жыл бұрын
I knew lots about displays before, but this gave me some cool new info
@kevkevdellarocco8681
@kevkevdellarocco8681 3 жыл бұрын
What a great, informative video about high dynamic range that has unforgivably ironic highlight clipping.
@Twin.motors
@Twin.motors 3 жыл бұрын
I know TVs, I know tech but you lost me so so many times, great video!
@unclesebb
@unclesebb 4 жыл бұрын
Great summary of some complex subjects in a relatively short video. There could have been a bit more clear explaining on the difference between sRGB vs REC709 however. Rec709 is the broadcast standard that all television uses and has different gamma curve than sRGB (2.4 vs 2.2)
@LIJ
@LIJ 4 жыл бұрын
I subscribed just from this one video. Great content and explanation!
@AndreiVaida
@AndreiVaida 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, full of technical details!
@69Dartman
@69Dartman 9 ай бұрын
Well 3 years later there are a few TVs that can do 4000 nits or really close. But sounds like everything mentioned is still applies. Very good tutorial thanks.
@top115
@top115 3 жыл бұрын
Finally!! Thank you for the good explanation. Now when im showing off my new TV I can explain all the details of HDR: "Brighter, more contrast, colour gamut something... argh, just watch, it looks amazing!!"
@psyboyo
@psyboyo 3 жыл бұрын
Congrats, an amazing and detailed explanation! Thanks.
@kallamamran
@kallamamran 4 жыл бұрын
Best explanatory video on the subject ever!!
@BRBearUSA
@BRBearUSA 3 жыл бұрын
The first video I see that actually addresses the differences of these standards in terms simple enough that I can understand. Thank you. R. P.S. I guess my next TV will have to have Douby HDR... Question: Can LCD QLED TVs display Dolby HDR, or is that OLED only? I ask because I am NOT willing to risk burn in when buying my new TV, which OLEDs are subject to.
@shmolouis
@shmolouis 3 жыл бұрын
Very informative video. Would have liked to have also seen some particular brand/models as concrete examples as to where they are in the various spectrums.
@Xollas
@Xollas 4 жыл бұрын
I thought I new all about HDR. I’m glad you proved me wrong. Great video. Liked
@packman67ny
@packman67ny 4 жыл бұрын
Always super informative.
@007Yasir
@007Yasir 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Very professional information. Thank you for sharing.
@abhishekjekte
@abhishekjekte 4 жыл бұрын
Very informative. Thanks mate
@arthurb6766
@arthurb6766 3 жыл бұрын
Crystal clear video
@originalmagneto
@originalmagneto 4 жыл бұрын
Great one again!!!! Thanks for these!
@Philson
@Philson 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Very comprehensive.
@BozQ
@BozQ 4 жыл бұрын
Very informative! Thank you.
@tothdaniel99
@tothdaniel99 4 жыл бұрын
really nice video boys, well done :D
@nithinjs88
@nithinjs88 4 жыл бұрын
great video..a pleasure watching upscaled...
@michaelmcintosh9378
@michaelmcintosh9378 3 жыл бұрын
Watching American gods on Amazon prime on our 75" samsung q70t was the first show that blew me away. Comparing it our sdr 1080p 43" LG it was night and day. I completely agree HDR is waaaay more impressive and important than 4k is. It completely changes the viewing experience and I'm continually in awe pausing and rewinding. Side note* after 2 trys with the q70t and various issues we are waiting for our 75" Sony x900h that supports dolby vision and I'm soooo excited to experience dolby vision. I'm excited to see if I can notice a difference compared to hdr 10/ 10+ that the samsung supported. Great video and extremely well put to gether to explain all of this. Thank you!!!
@lateapex9420
@lateapex9420 4 жыл бұрын
Does this apply to my 14" Sony Triniton?
@zh4ngx
@zh4ngx 3 жыл бұрын
Really well done and a pleasure to watch!
@JonPais
@JonPais 4 жыл бұрын
Great overview!
@DC_Cha_Cha_Cha
@DC_Cha_Cha_Cha 4 жыл бұрын
Very helpful, thanks! 👍
@mrclean2022
@mrclean2022 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to see how this information relates to the gaming settings on the new consoles like PS5, XBOX or higher end GPUs and some typical graphical settings you see in games
@notthere83
@notthere83 4 жыл бұрын
I still remember watching Equilibrium on a CRT projector that was calibrated so that black literally does not produce any visible light. The first action scene was spectacular. And so I'm ambivalent about this HDR stuff. I've always been a sucker for rich blacks and strong contrasts but most TVs labelled HDR-ready can't even support that because of the underlying technology, so I can't really find myself caring as much as I care about things such as OLED or MicroLED.
@LarsPallesen
@LarsPallesen 4 жыл бұрын
Very well explained. Thanks!
@CocoaBeachLiving
@CocoaBeachLiving 4 жыл бұрын
Standards have come such a long way from when I was a kid 👍😉
@TheJoker3031
@TheJoker3031 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video bro!!
@musicxxa6678
@musicxxa6678 4 жыл бұрын
Just wow. Extraordinary.
@WanderlustWonderscape
@WanderlustWonderscape 4 жыл бұрын
You just earned a new subscriber... very well done.
@danielhalasz-szabo5143
@danielhalasz-szabo5143 4 жыл бұрын
Best content in the topic. Thank you.
@JimboSkinner
@JimboSkinner 4 жыл бұрын
This made me subscribe to the channel! Amazing talk, can you explain one more thing: doesn’t the log curve compress color AND luminance data, so that a wider ranger of data can be held in the same container. Sony’s 8 bit cameras use their slog mode to use a log function to hold more than 8 bits of data in that 8 bit container, correct? I didn’t think it was just a straight mapping of values, I thought it was a function of reducing data to log points, then in post you reverse the log and then have more data to work with
@Michal_M
@Michal_M 2 жыл бұрын
That is why some of the TV sets offer DV IQ - which simply measures an ambient light in the room where it is placed so the content displayed should looks closer to the one mastered by the production.
@homerj516
@homerj516 3 жыл бұрын
Just got a new Panasonic Oled is it luminance and contrast set at max for effect, always see conflicting opinions.Also is that regardless of room ambient lighting conditions,day or night etc, thanks.
@kishores7034
@kishores7034 4 жыл бұрын
Even though I understand everything about these formats it's soo much fun to watch it again
@lucasrem
@lucasrem 4 жыл бұрын
Kishore S the only thing you need to understand is color depth, and compression less then 4:4:4, 12 bit color depth. Rec.2020, how many % true is it what you see? Dark VS bright contrast ratio, nit, how bright you light up the room too.... these formats? HDR10 you meant, house wife levels, for people that are stupid...Forget that name!
@coolhandxxx
@coolhandxxx 4 жыл бұрын
Cool, quick and succinct. Thank you 🙏
@macsan1234
@macsan1234 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris. Great video . Now there are many like me who have backed the nebula cosmos max from anker.(4k pixel shifting 0.47 m chip and 1080 cosmos with 0.33 dmd chip) I wanted your guidance on this. PPL r hving issues with dark movies as they r very dark especially in the 1080 model ..now hdr on and off has been added. Also in developer mode it has toggle for srgb. Why is this dark movie issue troubling us ? PPL have improved it in the 4k one by changing linear settings on the max but cosmos for now doesn't have that. Now both were suppoaed to hve hdr 10 and hlg and dyic smoothing. How do we make full use of this ? Wht do we tell the developers to do to make us enjoy this feature? How do we use sRGB to improve colours. I have posted this video on our nebula cosmos family group for them to understand better . Pl give your inputs on these two questions
@blooooooooooom
@blooooooooooom 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic explanation
@DaddeGamer
@DaddeGamer 4 жыл бұрын
This is blu-ray vs HD DVD on steroids!
@sparkside217
@sparkside217 4 жыл бұрын
One thing I'm confused about - on a 1080p regular blu-ray release, compared to it's 4k release with more color depth, how does the tv treat the two discs? Is it that 1080p releases generally have lighter blacks/less highlights, and if so, will the tv show it as so? Or will the TV artificially widen the color so that the deepest black on the disc is presented as the deepest black the tv can do? If so, what are the downsides of this?
@florichi
@florichi 4 жыл бұрын
The TV could do both. Either display the image as intended with a 0-100nit dynamic range and REC 709 colors (most TVs are close to that with cinema picture styles enabled or if they are calibrated), or stretch it out to use a wider dynamic range (TVs do that in the vivid, sports or other similiar) and boost colors plus use a denoiser/banding filter. If you want the picture as the director wanted it approach nr. 1 would be the one to go with. If you are the store that want's to sell the TV by tricking the buyer, then use approach nr 2. But: Even if the two modes, SDR and HDR, are calibrated to the standards, the difference in color will mostly be minor, since only the very vivid parts of the image will see a difference. Recent HDR releases never really use the REC 2020 colorspace, since they either know that TVs can't display it or the muted look suits the movie.
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