DIME HEAD - NAM PLAYER (part 2): a latency champion?
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Күн бұрынWith this video we will share a detailed latency test of the DIME HEAD NAM PLAYER I hope you enjoy!.
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⏰Timecodes:
0:00 - Intro
0:30 - Latency NAM PLAYER
#DIMEHEAD #NAM #NAMPLAYER
@guyverl 2 ай бұрын
As a player who's sensitive to latency these are VERY interesting results. Keep up the good work Leo!
@LeoGibsonGtr 2 ай бұрын
Thank you so much!!!!
@tgchan 2 ай бұрын
I thought the same... Tried GT1000 which was the king of latency. The sound and feel > latency. Trust me. Although I hate latency so much I cannot enjoy plugins for longer periods of time ;p
@digitalchris6681 2 ай бұрын
Thanks Leo. I hope these impressive results make the "big boys" ( Tonex, Quad Cortex, Fractal, Kemper, Helix ) urgently reassess and redesign their units.
@johndo9648 2 ай бұрын
Because of 1 or 2millisecond difference. What nonsense.
@digitalchris6681 2 ай бұрын
@@johndo9648 don't criticise what you don't understand. This level can be noticeable. In my setup with near-field active studio monitors (which have their own a/d-d/a processing and thus latency) I can feel an additional 3ms, which is why I have tried but sold the named units but kept a Boss.
@guitartoneSA 2 ай бұрын
Impossible to feel 3ms latency. If you didn't watch videos showing the different latencies you wouldn't feel the difference.
@digitalchris6681 2 ай бұрын
@@guitartoneSA that's your opinion. It is not fact.
@BlazonStone Ай бұрын
I agree! When you start connecting this to digital mixers and digital in-ear monitoring... The latency starts adding up!
@DogdaySunrise 2 ай бұрын
This is really impressive. Thank you for the detailed test!
@LeoGibsonGtr 2 ай бұрын
You are welcome!
@joejohnson8966 2 ай бұрын
Absolutely fantastic. Thank you so much for such a quick video. You're the best.
@LeoGibsonGtr 2 ай бұрын
Thank you so much!!!!
@rveurope 2 ай бұрын
Seems like a hot topic this one! Thanks Leo❤
@LeoGibsonGtr 2 ай бұрын
You are welcome!!
@Sea_Jay 2 ай бұрын
I get the feeling that we are going to see a bunch of NAM units in the future. That's a good thing for us. It may become the standard since it's open source and just getting started. I can see all the Mooer/Hotone/NUX/Valeton type companies putting this technology into sub $200 devices in the coming year or two.
@LeoGibsonGtr 2 ай бұрын
Yes, I do agree!
@CTBlaze 2 ай бұрын
Although they will NEVER achieve that grade of quality, be it in parts, audio or the software. Oh yeah, and let the copy cats port the NAM code to DSP, hahaha
@jcoulter43 2 ай бұрын
Can't wait for your review and demo song! Sounds like the hype may be real. God bless and rock on 👍😎🎸
@LeoGibsonGtr 2 ай бұрын
Yes, I'm working on the demo song....I can't wait to share it...it's pretty nice...😀
@CTBlaze 2 ай бұрын
Hype? which hype? It has been real since day one of the initial idea, knowing the inventors!
@WholeLottaBulldog 2 ай бұрын
What an incredible unit. Well done to Dimehead. I wish we could get it in Australia though.
@LeoGibsonGtr 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing!
@dirkmeyer328 2 ай бұрын
We have been shipping to Australia for about a week now :)
@wolvesandguitars 2 ай бұрын
Hey!! I named my Dog LEO and when the kids say LEEo i say No its LAYOH.
@LeoGibsonGtr 2 ай бұрын
😀😀😀
@Schlumpf.Meister 2 ай бұрын
The latency is not only due to horse power but some algorithm magic which all suppliers can do once they are forced to by competition. As of 4 weeks ago when I last spoke to the Dimehead guys the unit was limited to a subset of the NAM models, namely WaveNet, which is maybe fine for most but maybe not for the nerds. BTW all NAM models could still be substantially sped up by clever pruning, the average model structure is total overkill for the task, WaveNet for instance was invented for speech generation which is a lot more complex than a guitar signal.
@LeoGibsonGtr 2 ай бұрын
Hi, thank you for sharing! interesting points...
@dirkmeyer328 2 ай бұрын
We have automatically tested Nam Player with all models from Tonehunt. There was not a single file that was not wavenet based :) Less than 10 files failed, all of which appeared to have been created with a modified trainer.
@Schlumpf.Meister 2 ай бұрын
@@dirkmeyer328 fair enough, but NAM is an open platform, it is just important for people to realize the limitations. The reason many models employ Wavenet is simply because it is the default setting which is because Steve doesn't like LSTMs for their learning problems which on the future could be maybe remedied within the learning cycle, and at a sudden NO Wavenet files would be used anymore.
@dirkmeyer328 2 ай бұрын
As you can see, we offer firmware updates :) If a new architecture were to prevail, we would also implement it.
@Schlumpf.Meister 2 ай бұрын
@@dirkmeyer328 👍👍👍
@Jakub88317 2 ай бұрын
For the past few days, I've been testing NAM Player and I can only say that my Quad Cortex is going up for sale :) NAM Player is very easy to use, made with top-notch components, and constantly updated with additional parameters, functions, and effects. The NAM technology itself is number one when it comes to capturing. You feel like you're playing on a real amplifier, one to one.
@fuzzaldryn9626 2 ай бұрын
... Yeah, testing a new HP/LP feature for fine tuning the IR. That's a major leap in fidelity on different FR output devices.
@LeoGibsonGtr 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing!!
@tgchan 2 ай бұрын
Leo delivers as always/ It would be nice to see how it handles a whole signal chain (pedals; front and fx loop) with real cab. Connecting it directly to FX loop of an an amp (using as a preamp and omitting the real one from the amp itself)
@LeoGibsonGtr 2 ай бұрын
Thank you! Yes, it is possible but creating a profile of a preamp only...
@dirkmeyer328 2 ай бұрын
In my experience, complete NAM amp models also sound good through the FX return/power amp, as long as the power amp is not pushed too far to its limit.
@CTBlaze 2 ай бұрын
It works absolutely fine, be it lineout w/o IR to power stage of amp (great on my tube amps actually), or with IR to headphones, recording, FR speaker or FOH. It also takes pedals in front very well to drive/push the NAM models!
@EngiNeer-ec8nk 2 ай бұрын
cant wait for the full demo of that thing...i so wish its gapless
@LeoGibsonGtr 2 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@johnplaystheguitar123 2 ай бұрын
Great work. When I saw that the graph you put went up to 3ms I thought oh no! But well done it kept me on my toes and didn't spoil it if you only had 1ms. Soon your graph may only need to be 0.1ms, 0.2ms etc
@LeoGibsonGtr 2 ай бұрын
😀 thank you, I'm happy that you appreciate the video!!!
@ChilloChill 2 ай бұрын
Great video ❤
@LeoGibsonGtr 2 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@armando534 2 ай бұрын
👍👍👍
@LeoGibsonGtr 2 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@gabrielr4329 Ай бұрын
Can you remind us where this falls in the overall chart of available modelers?
@LeoGibsonGtr Ай бұрын
This is unique...no other device can load complex NAM profiles. Furthermore the latency is first in class... THanks!
@quiquepriore 2 ай бұрын
I sold my Quadcortex, Nam sound so better that I capture the Nam profiles😂
@LeoGibsonGtr 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing!
@artysanmobile 2 ай бұрын
Note to users: Expect to pay extra for a device with virtually no latency. Once the field is highly competitive about DSP the prices will come back into line.
@fuzzaldryn9626 2 ай бұрын
It's not the DSP is beefed up in this thing but the actual code has been improved and optimized. So no, it's not the actual open source code anymore. And that's what you're paying for here.
@artysanmobile 2 ай бұрын
@@fuzzaldryn9626 That is not correct. Much as your computer needs a video card, the sound processing can only reach virtually zero, as on this item, when a dedicated processor is used. If it was merely code, we wouldn’t see DSP solutions everywhere in the field of audio.
@fuzzaldryn9626 2 ай бұрын
@@artysanmobile What if I tell there's no DSP in it doing the NAM modelling?
@artysanmobile 2 ай бұрын
@@fuzzaldryn9626 You might wish to go to website. In giant letters: QUAD CORE DSP
@artysanmobile 2 ай бұрын
@@fuzzaldryn9626 A>D + D>A alone takes all of the .6 - .8ms delay here. And that’s with 96kHz conversions. The modeling cannot take place in zero time without a dedicated computer doing ONLY the processing. We call them DSPs. They are specialist CPUs that can cache an instruction set and electrically reconfigure to run the required 64 bit process in a handful of clock cycles. 15 years ago they were very expensive. Today they are widely available chips and not terribly pricey either. But it takes work to implement it with a host and we can finally see who’s not doing their job.
@christianpucciarelli 2 ай бұрын
Sempre n1,riusciamo a capire che processore ha ?
@LeoGibsonGtr 2 ай бұрын
Grazie!!! Provo a chiedere ... anche se credo vorranno tenere per se certe specifiche.
@christianpucciarelli 2 ай бұрын
@@LeoGibsonGtr beh alla fine è un segreto di pulcinella,il primo smanettone con un cacciavite lo scopre 😜
@DomMcsweeney-DoomPlugs 2 ай бұрын
@@christianpucciarelli @LeoGibsonGtr - They say on the website that it's an Arm a72 processor with four real-time dsp cores. (If you look on the main page, and at the image with annotations).
@christianpucciarelli 2 ай бұрын
@@DomMcsweeney-DoomPlugsuhm I don’t know that processor
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