Dirt Late Model Iron Headed Engine Build - Engine Power S2, E12

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POWERNATION

POWERNATION

4 жыл бұрын

Pat and Mike reveal secrets on how to build a winning all-iron Chevy small block for dirt track racing
PARTS USED IN THIS EPISODE:
ARP: Assembly Lubricant, for Engine Assembly and Fastener Installation, Ultra Torque, 1 Pint, Each
More Info: pntv.us/pn_pt_1976
Canton Racing Products: Carburetor Spacer, Phenolic, 1.00 in. Thick, 2-Hole, 2-Barrel, Kit
More Info: pntv.us/pn_pt_1993
Comp Cams: Cam Button Spacer, Steel, Roller, Chevy, Small Block, Each
More Info: pntv.us/pn_pt_1996
Comp Cams: Timing Cover, 3-Piece, Aluminum, Natural, Chevy, Small Block, Each
More Info: pntv.us/pn_pt_1987
Comp Cams: Timing Chain and Gear Set, Ultimate Adjustable, Double Roller, Billet Steel Sprockets, Chevy, Small Block, Set
More Info: pntv.us/pn_pt_1995
Dart: Cylinder Head, Iron Eagle Platinum, Assembled, 49cc Chamber, 230cc Intake Runner, Chevy, 327, 350, 400, Each
More Info: pntv.us/pn_pt_1982
Dart: Engine Block, Cast Iron, 4-Bolt Mains, 4.125 in. Diameter Bore, 2-Piece Rear Main Seal, Chevy,Small Block,Each
More Info: pntv.us/pn_pt_1981
Driven Racing Oil: Motor Oil, Racing Break-In BR, Mineral, 5W30, 1 qt., Each
More Info: pntv.us/pn_pt_1974
Dupli-Color: Paint, Engine, Enamel with Ceramic Resin, Gloss, White, 12 oz., Aerosol, Each
More Info: pntv.us/pn_pt_1992
Dupli-Color: Paint, Engine, Enamel with Ceramic Resin, Flat Gray Primer, 12 oz., Aerosol, Each
More Info: pntv.us/pn_pt_1977
Edelbrock: Intake Manifold, Super Victor 23 degree, Single Plane, Aluminum, Natural, Square Bore, Chevy Small Block, Each
More Info: pntv.us/pn_pt_1988
Loctite: Loctite 135511 Green 609 Medium Strength Retaining Compound, 10 mL
More Info: pntv.us/pn_pt_1972
Moroso: Oil Pan Gasket, Rubber with Steel Core, Chevy, Small Block, Each
More Info: pntv.us/pn_pt_1991
Moroso: Oil Pan Oval Track Clear Zinc Steel Stage I Pre-80 SBC 8 Qt.
More Info: pntv.us/pn_pt_1989
Moroso: Oil Pump and Pickup Assembly, High-Volume, 3/4 in. Inlet, Chevy, Small Block,for 7.125 in. Deep Oval Track Pan
More Info: pntv.us/pn_pt_1990
Quick Fuel Technology Inc.: Carburetor, Black Diamond Q-Series, 950 cfm, Mechanical Secondary, 4-Barrel, Square Bore, Drag Race, Each
More Info: pntv.us/pn_pt_1980
Summit Racing: Beyea, Dirt Late Model Tri-Y 23 degree Single Step..1 3/4 x 1 7/8 x 3
More Info: pntv.us/pn_pt_1994
Comp Cams: 3/8" DIA. Pushrods
Comp Cams: Oval Track Xtreme TK Roller Camshaft, Custom Grind
Crower Cams & Equipment Co., Inc.: SBC 230 Iron Eagle Stainless Steel Shaft Mount Rockers
Eagle Specialty Products: 4340 Crank Sbc 50lb 2.00 Rod Pin, Esp Armor Finish
Eagle Specialty Products: 4340 Rod 6.00" 2.00" LW
Goodson Shop Supplies: Professional Measuring & Inspection Stand
MAHLE Aftermarket: SBC Flat Top PowerPak Piston For 1mm, 1mm, 2mm Ring Set 4.165 Bore 3.750 Stroke 6.0 Rod 1.125 C/H 0.927 Pin -5cc Vol. 452g 11.7 C/R 4032
Safety-Kleen: JRI - Front Load, Medium Duty Parts Washer
School of Automotive Machinists: School Of Automotive Machinists In Houston TX (SAM)
The Industrial Depot: Fasteners, Hardware, And Shop Supplies

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@chrisj197438
@chrisj197438 4 жыл бұрын
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@ablaylock4273
@ablaylock4273 4 жыл бұрын
How did this car do against the others btw???
@The_Bandit_750
@The_Bandit_750 4 жыл бұрын
Pat always comes threw with the nice top pocket pen pack
@liteflexin8129
@liteflexin8129 4 жыл бұрын
Grew up waiting on Sunday mornings now both my love it as well even though they call it an infomercial with cool cars an great idea
@car-man
@car-man 4 жыл бұрын
I'm enjoying watching your good video. I support you in Korea.
@owowaudi
@owowaudi 3 жыл бұрын
"affordable form of auto racing" LMFAO good joke
@GhostYT_lat
@GhostYT_lat 3 жыл бұрын
@@Buzzard-wq1bw wrong, none of those classes are "affordable"
@GhostYT_lat
@GhostYT_lat 3 жыл бұрын
@@Buzzard-wq1bw what is your households gross yearly income?
@brandonenglund7516
@brandonenglund7516 3 жыл бұрын
Much cheaper than an open late model!
@arcdestriumph586
@arcdestriumph586 2 жыл бұрын
Racer tried to mumble some support... But you could see he was super disappointed with the HP numbers from these Parts/Assemblers with a dyno.
@dylantaylor3111
@dylantaylor3111 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly lmao. People don’t think about the cost of fuel and tires… tires last 2 races if your lucky btw😂 You always got to factor in other parts too, I just had to replace a cylinder head and things aren’t too cheap. Sponsors chip in a little money but it doesn’t pay for it all😂
@hank1556
@hank1556 4 жыл бұрын
dirt track racing is where its at. its cheap fun action and the grassroots feel is nice
@bmstylee
@bmstylee 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know. That engine doesn't look like what I would call cheap.
@jamestone265
@jamestone265 3 жыл бұрын
Late model isn’t and never will be “grass root”
@shane41225
@shane41225 3 жыл бұрын
First thing I noticed at the very beginning of the episode at 0:40 that GM crate engine he is standing next to has the double breather valve cover on the passenger side which is completely backwards from how it’s supposed to be
@FastBowtie388
@FastBowtie388 3 жыл бұрын
Yep... instantly noticed that also. That engine is a turd. 8 inch massive balancer .. just fantastic for slowing racecars down twice a lap. I guarantee I make more power with a 384.57. It's a nice over square idea though. 14:1 compression with no crackle. I'm not happy unless I'm making at least 1.2hp/cu.in.
@joegabner7419
@joegabner7419 Жыл бұрын
My 355 for my sportsman makes more than that. Im also on alky.
@kenxiong6830
@kenxiong6830 4 жыл бұрын
Best American V8 channel on KZfaq!
@rumerstain12
@rumerstain12 2 жыл бұрын
Great video . Lots of info for a dirt racing spectator like myself. Love it 😀
@jrodthegreat1
@jrodthegreat1 4 жыл бұрын
I am an outside machinist and I fix submarines and aircraft carriers so I get how small measurements have to be. we use all the precision tools (outside mic, inside mic, intramik, vernier calipers, dial indicators, etc). its crazy how you can't even see something but it effects rotating machinery's durability and function and the feel of a big ball valve or if it leaks, (obviously its a big deal on a submarine) even just. 0.0010" makes a huge difference especially on fitted bolts and bearings. I did something last night that required a 0.0000-.00006 clearance. Crazy shit
@trillrifaxegrindor4411
@trillrifaxegrindor4411 2 жыл бұрын
lots of +- 0.0002 shit in machining.transmissions are ridiculously tight tolerance 8 micons runout on groove position,thats like 2-3 tenths
@cutty-mg3kf
@cutty-mg3kf 4 жыл бұрын
Thats a nice little iron head motor !
@tomnekuda3818
@tomnekuda3818 4 жыл бұрын
You guys have a great program.....never miss it. Torrington bearings are the most under-used bearings there are....Bravo! Have built many engines but stumped exactly how you design a cam to favor two-barrel carbs......can you enlighten us all out here with somewhat of an explanation that adds up? Thanks for all you show. The List 4412 500 cfm is a really sweet carb. I noticed that you are using a slotted spacer underneath the carb. I have found that using a 4-bbl manifold sometimes indexing the carb a little forward or back on the manifold can make over 10 hp difference and certainly can balance cylinder to cylinder fuel distribution. I've not reached the end of the video yet...have you tried that?
@bilbobaggins4710
@bilbobaggins4710 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry man, they don't reply to these old shows
@WesternReloader
@WesternReloader 4 жыл бұрын
I’m with you on wanting to understand how certain combos work. Especially the 2bbl carb on the 4bbl manifold.
@Pgcmoore
@Pgcmoore 4 жыл бұрын
outstanding!!! serious hp for a 2 can na small block
@69yenko65
@69yenko65 4 жыл бұрын
High compression and solid roller cam
@ROSS219PRODUCTIONS
@ROSS219PRODUCTIONS 2 жыл бұрын
oh my god that is just amazing that there is footage of my hometrack Clarksville Speedway in here
@claytonfreeman5067
@claytonfreeman5067 4 жыл бұрын
thinking of taking 5.2, 5.9 magnum 1996 1500 seeing what will fit from each one crazy idea ,not like taking parts from 383 or 440 ,400 changing things around ?? these shows get you thinking about old school sure brings back the pass
@TwentytenS4B8
@TwentytenS4B8 4 жыл бұрын
Boy that engine would be a lot of fun.
@paytenvanlangendonck3141
@paytenvanlangendonck3141 4 жыл бұрын
Love you guys
@forestlawrencegrading9154
@forestlawrencegrading9154 4 жыл бұрын
I like that little screamer
@BigEightiesNewWave
@BigEightiesNewWave 4 жыл бұрын
Topo needs more pens.
@BigEightiesNewWave
@BigEightiesNewWave 4 жыл бұрын
And 1st.
@bilbobaggins4710
@bilbobaggins4710 4 жыл бұрын
????? Who's topo and why does he need pens?????
@francobnyc
@francobnyc 4 жыл бұрын
The Executioner Topo is short for the host Pat TOPOlinski. He always has shirt-pocket full of pens and pencils.
@bmstylee
@bmstylee 4 жыл бұрын
@@bigboreracing356 you can never have to many pens.
@bmstylee
@bmstylee 4 жыл бұрын
@@bigboreracing356 leave a pen on a keyboard in my office and it will walk away double quick.
@rauljrlara9994
@rauljrlara9994 4 жыл бұрын
Damn . Picking up the engine from the intake manifold gives me goosebumps
@keefespencer1173
@keefespencer1173 4 жыл бұрын
Yea but as long as everything is torqued down correctly and the bolts for the intake plate are in good and the chain on the engine lift is good I say go at it my family and I are full of mechanics backyard and ASE certified and sometimes both plus we have motorcycle builders and mechanics in my family so if it has wheels and an engine whether it be Ford,Chevy,and or Mopar and Japanese and Harleys,Customs,and Japanese motorcycles someone in my family can work on them and I've seen engines picked up like that plenty of times and also using a manual chain engine hoist using a tree limb to pull the engine out of the car so I say when in Rome do what the Romans do and that's use the tools that you have to work with you just have to be smarter than the tool your working with
@rauljrlara9994
@rauljrlara9994 4 жыл бұрын
@@keefespencer1173 I would rather pick it up from the block . Not the intake . Just saying . Everyone has their methods. But personally I dont trust that. Your personal preference is up to you . Mine isn't this .
@jasontruman1215
@jasontruman1215 4 жыл бұрын
Raul JR Lara I’ve done this for years even with big blocks. There’s a reason why carb bolt pattern lift plates are so common.... they work!!!!! I understand your concerns though.
@zuestoots5176
@zuestoots5176 4 жыл бұрын
@@jasontruman1215 Proof Raul has never pulled an engine with more than 4 cylinders, if any engine at all
@rauljrlara9994
@rauljrlara9994 4 жыл бұрын
@@zuestoots5176 stupid 😂 . Get out internet troll. It's all preference like I said .
@theayatollahofrockandrollah
@theayatollahofrockandrollah 4 жыл бұрын
so that's where Tom Green went
@tomhamilton9140
@tomhamilton9140 4 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a Ford engine build.
@Ty-tie_FTW
@Ty-tie_FTW 4 жыл бұрын
That makes 2 of us!
@Disablednoob
@Disablednoob 4 жыл бұрын
"Not allowed to modify the heads" they pulled them apart "just to clean them?" Hahaha nooooo, they did some bowl work to them heads😉
@billybobaggins8820
@billybobaggins8820 4 жыл бұрын
RockinGbody _ ain’t racein if there isn’t cheatin
@bmstylee
@bmstylee 4 жыл бұрын
@@billybobaggins8820 it's only cheating if you get caught.
@accessgainer8
@accessgainer8 3 жыл бұрын
That rule is a joke , no need to modify if you're allowed to use a head like that.
@kenantoschjr8250
@kenantoschjr8250 4 жыл бұрын
I have a 96 jetta 2.0l. I like to put turbo on it but no idea what I need for Internal parts
@pressureworks
@pressureworks 2 жыл бұрын
Impressive Torque with the 2 Barrel. May have been possible to increase both numbers using different spacers with the 4 Barrel. Were they using Late Model Plus fuel ??? More Torque !!! I gotta have more torque !! What every dirt racer says in the dyno room !!!
@georgehoffman7846
@georgehoffman7846 Жыл бұрын
At Donnie Moran's home track Muskingum Speedway our street stock Motors are like that certainly not late model stuff. I guess each area of the country has their own deal.
@jacksonstanfill1003
@jacksonstanfill1003 Жыл бұрын
I know some boys who put aluminum heads on their car but paint it so that way a magnet will stick to it lol
@Cam-ns1yi
@Cam-ns1yi 4 жыл бұрын
I need one of those in my IROC Z
@peanut7105
@peanut7105 4 жыл бұрын
What is the part# on the cam bearings and can you use them on stock factory blocks
@toyotabob7535
@toyotabob7535 3 жыл бұрын
Durabond chdt1t. All the OD of the bearings are exactly the same. A stock block has 3 different OD cam brgs. Not the same but durabond does make the exact material bearings for a stock block.
@pdfgaming8917
@pdfgaming8917 4 жыл бұрын
It would be awesome if you guys could do a p-pump 12 valve Cummins motor build
@chrisj197438
@chrisj197438 4 жыл бұрын
pdfgaming People are sick of Cummins builds.
@pdfgaming8917
@pdfgaming8917 4 жыл бұрын
Chump Johnson Yea, there sick of the same builds with people that have no idea wat their talking about
@chrisj197438
@chrisj197438 4 жыл бұрын
STREET RACER Lames
@anthonymilano691
@anthonymilano691 2 жыл бұрын
With a 409 cubic inch and 309 cfm cylinder head and 14:1compression .650 lift roller TKO lobe cam this motor should be in the neighborhood of 650 hp minimum with a 4brl
@rtkl13
@rtkl13 2 жыл бұрын
I was surprised too my 406 with a tad more cam and 320 flow on the heads made almost 680
@jamestone265
@jamestone265 2 жыл бұрын
Flat tappet or roller cam?
@axlegrind4212
@axlegrind4212 3 жыл бұрын
2 bbl carb or restrictor plates is too much restriction for a straight runner intake. a dual plane is much better suited with a restricted carburetor.
@pressureworks
@pressureworks 2 жыл бұрын
May be required to use by the Track Rules
@richardperry21
@richardperry21 4 жыл бұрын
It would seem to me that with a restricted 2 barrel that you would want small c.i. high rpm. like a 4.125 and a 2.750 stroke. i.e. quick to accelerate and 9000 rpm or so. this was close to one of our winning asphalt limited late model engines killing the 355ci engins.
@otsenres1636
@otsenres1636 4 жыл бұрын
Motor was a screamer!!
@csh9853
@csh9853 Жыл бұрын
I thought they would use stock heads since most small dirt track guys do but I should of known they'd install aftermarket heads,they always do.
@lewisdeclouette6342
@lewisdeclouette6342 4 жыл бұрын
Now that's not fair yeah I'm going to have to do one on the street and strip
@brandonenglund7516
@brandonenglund7516 3 жыл бұрын
Now do one of an open, dry sump late model motor!
@chapie62
@chapie62 2 жыл бұрын
You really wanna see them spend all that money to make 750 hp? lmao And yes i know what those motors should make for power, i just dont see these guys doing it.
@lord_kappa_pb1825
@lord_kappa_pb1825 2 жыл бұрын
Could this motor be good in drag racing
@sprintcarguy03
@sprintcarguy03 4 жыл бұрын
Now do a sprintcar motor with a 305 with injection on Methanol
@chloehennessey6813
@chloehennessey6813 4 жыл бұрын
Wish my dad would let me do this instead of making me go to gymnastics 🤸‍♀️ 😢🙄
@sickofliberals9403
@sickofliberals9403 4 жыл бұрын
Lol
@alt7488
@alt7488 4 жыл бұрын
put that practice to good use and piss him off at the same time....become a stripper
@stevengrissom7142
@stevengrissom7142 4 жыл бұрын
Bless your heart Chloe
@gabekenyon4882
@gabekenyon4882 4 жыл бұрын
You look like your old enough to say I dont want to do gymnastics lol
@jeremyeubanks2387
@jeremyeubanks2387 4 жыл бұрын
Man that's a rowdy cam
@bowhite1293
@bowhite1293 2 жыл бұрын
I daily a 243/255-110 cam with an 8" stall. Nothing to it.
@praisethenameofjesuschrist8971
@praisethenameofjesuschrist8971 4 жыл бұрын
How are they getting that high of compression using flat top pistons instead of dome pistons???....
@PropsandWings
@PropsandWings 4 жыл бұрын
Small CC's on the combustion chambers and a much larger quench area can do that. Also making the piston closer to the top of the deck and cylinder head via a longer connecting rod does it too which makes it an interference fit engine. There are more ways than what I just listed.
@Ryanezek36
@Ryanezek36 4 жыл бұрын
49cc
@zaxpage9003
@zaxpage9003 4 жыл бұрын
Why does the second compression ring need a larger gap than the top ring? I thought the top ring was exposed to the most heat, therefore needing a larger gap than the second.??
@toyotabob7535
@toyotabob7535 3 жыл бұрын
Gas gets trapped between the rings. The only way for gas to leave is down. It's not going up because of compression. Without extra ring gap to let the gas out, it escapes by lifting the 2 ring off the wall. A bigger gap on the 2nd ring seals the motor better. Every ring manufacturer recommends a bigger gap on the 2nd but total seal....
@carl7675
@carl7675 4 жыл бұрын
Where are you guys racing at?? We ran much more hp out of a 421 small block. Not to mention other differences.
@clint4004
@clint4004 4 жыл бұрын
Can you deck n cam a Ford 351M no one has built one of these from a to z...
@keefespencer1173
@keefespencer1173 4 жыл бұрын
My dad built 3 of them except his were 351/400M's in his 78 F150 Ranger with a 4 speed behind and were not a Ford family but that was the only Ford he owned and he did so for a while but we stayed proud of that old truck cuz we used to drive that truck everywhere and almost every weekend we used to haul the race car to the track out pulling some gas powered dually's on the way there and the old Ford was only 2WD with 31 inch tall tires on it
@clint4004
@clint4004 4 жыл бұрын
@@keefespencer1173 I understand 351m/400m is roughly identical..I would like to see one of these built using so new tricks and toss an efi system on it..
@clint4004
@clint4004 4 жыл бұрын
@@bigboreracing356 C6 big block Mount and just torque for the Bronco.
@paleteroman2586
@paleteroman2586 4 жыл бұрын
You guys need to make a truck of 2006 GMC Sierra 1500? V8 5.3 2 door short bed I want to see how you guys fix that truck.
@brandonherrell5349
@brandonherrell5349 4 жыл бұрын
Just near 500hp? Sounds like a crate engine. Cause our pony class 4cylinder cars. 2300 Ford blocks are pushing 400hp. And the big kmsa engine 2500 Ford block is near 500 hp. So our big 4banger is pushing close to that Chevy v8 horse power.
@pocketsproductions8825
@pocketsproductions8825 3 жыл бұрын
Still waiting for the video of them at the track with him like they said
@dosilecreations6229
@dosilecreations6229 3 жыл бұрын
i wanna see as well!!
@trevnthetractorguy4259
@trevnthetractorguy4259 4 жыл бұрын
0:48 why do i see a mini stock running with those other classes ...
@dirttrackdevil1149
@dirttrackdevil1149 4 жыл бұрын
I was wondering the same thing lol at first I thought packing but when I went back they were on the green so I have no idea
@thephenomenalgarage6707
@thephenomenalgarage6707 3 жыл бұрын
Probably a open test or practice session where all classes are allowed on track
@ROSS219PRODUCTIONS
@ROSS219PRODUCTIONS 2 жыл бұрын
we have a class called mini mod and it was probably running with them because their car passed the mini mod rules and the pure mini rules and they probably paid the entry fee for both classs
@j6j66
@j6j66 4 жыл бұрын
cast iron small blocks💪🏼
@mattdrury5769
@mattdrury5769 6 ай бұрын
What's up with supposed 2.751 main journal? 400 is 2.650, i went back and screenshot mic under 2.450 for 350 main size.
@davecaskey429
@davecaskey429 4 жыл бұрын
I sure wish you guys would have done a full-blown all-aluminum late model engine 900 horsepower Orso with no silly power adders just cubic inches and compression
@rodpalm6398
@rodpalm6398 4 жыл бұрын
You forgot to offset the rear main seal and put sealant where the main cap butts to the block.
@adamjuiceman
@adamjuiceman 3 жыл бұрын
Also when they set the crank in at 8:25
@bowhite1293
@bowhite1293 2 жыл бұрын
At 8:07 when they lube the bearings you can see in the background the seal is offset.
@72gunslinger
@72gunslinger 4 жыл бұрын
14-1 comp with flat tops?
@ablaylock4273
@ablaylock4273 4 жыл бұрын
caught my attention too. is this possible?
@KingJT80
@KingJT80 4 жыл бұрын
@@ablaylock4273 49cc chambers or smaller
@crank-it-up6919
@crank-it-up6919 3 жыл бұрын
That air breather didn't do NUTHIN
@montanaleigh5515
@montanaleigh5515 Жыл бұрын
Grt shop is in my hometown of greenbrier Arkansas
@johnhancock5554
@johnhancock5554 4 жыл бұрын
🇺🇸 🏁
@briantherion5464
@briantherion5464 4 жыл бұрын
GRT? How old is this video?
@ROSS219PRODUCTIONS
@ROSS219PRODUCTIONS 2 жыл бұрын
grt still makes cars
@Cliff00936
@Cliff00936 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder how the officials would know if it was ported ?
@bmstylee
@bmstylee 4 жыл бұрын
If they suspect funny business or you get a complaint from other races I guess.
@ToxicMisfitsYt
@ToxicMisfitsYt 4 жыл бұрын
Class rules to make the class affordable. Buys 10k of iron
@kevinroberts8441
@kevinroberts8441 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah a 50000 engine is affordable
@bmstylee
@bmstylee 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah but if you want to play with the big boys it's expensive. In other competitive arenas I am familiar with look at what competitive rifle shooters spend on a PRS competition gun. With glass and accessories $10k is nothing.
@thiscocks
@thiscocks 3 жыл бұрын
I think those headlights will be a bit out
@jnljnl8485
@jnljnl8485 4 жыл бұрын
If your limited to 500cfm you went too big on the cubes to pull hard up top..
@KingJT80
@KingJT80 4 жыл бұрын
That many Cu in will pull it out of a corner faster roundy round is different than a 1/4 mile
@DaveMcLain
@DaveMcLain 4 жыл бұрын
A larger engine will make more power than a smaller one even with the 4412. I have a circle track engine a flat top piston 355 Chevy that I built for a customer that makes 500 horsepower. Just for fun I did a couple of pulls using that same 4412 carburetor on a 454 small block that I also built and it made 530 horsepower. The 355 has about 1000 pulls worth of development work and the 454 had zero.
@ablaylock4273
@ablaylock4273 4 жыл бұрын
@@DaveMcLain just out of curiousity, what kind of power would a dyno tested 550hp big block chevy make with a 4412 on E85?
@DaveMcLain
@DaveMcLain 4 жыл бұрын
@@ablaylock4273 My 454 small block made 600 horsepower and dropped about 70. Could your engine drop a little less than that and make 520? Probably. In my testing I found no horsepower advantage to running E-85 on the 355 engine with the 4412 but that engine is really well developed with gasoline too it didn't run worse but it didn't run better. I flogged it a lot too. I've never tested a 4412 with methanol but that stuff would probably be worth some power.
@ablaylock4273
@ablaylock4273 4 жыл бұрын
Dave McLain thanks for the reply. I've got a 2nd Gen ump street stock I picked up for a decent price. I also have 427 big block I've had for years. L88 specs but with iron heads and Victor jr intake. gonna put engine in car with direct drive glide and 6.20 gear. it might be a handful in the corners but how could it not compete? we shall see.
@callummcleod6362
@callummcleod6362 2 жыл бұрын
Never mind the engine. Did I see that engine stand roll over with is own motor?????
@maynardreed4036
@maynardreed4036 4 жыл бұрын
If 10 to 15,000 dollars is affordable I'd like to see the big dollar engine.
@LEG1TBuRNS
@LEG1TBuRNS 4 жыл бұрын
Maynard Reed used Durham’s and Roush Yates’ go for 20k+ used.. looking around 30k for one brand new. In all reality you wouldn’t even be able to compete with the big boys (WoO LMS and Lucas Oil LMS) on a $10-15k engine
@maynardreed4036
@maynardreed4036 4 жыл бұрын
@@bigboreracing356 I guess. I'm having a hard time swallowing a grand my heads done.
@dirttrackdevil1149
@dirttrackdevil1149 4 жыл бұрын
Well in East TN we have a sportsman late model class which has a steelhead option and you can run a 602 or 604 crate with the seals broken on them in the sportsman class so a used maybe 2006 grt or masterbilt rolling chassis with winters rear non adjustable shocks wheels tires about 2 to 4k range on racing junk.com or Facebook market place a rebuilt 602 crate with the seals broken I've seen some that do great on the track for about 1200 on the marketplace before very affordable engine makes decent power for what it is and a brinn or Bert direct drive I've seen em in good used condition anywhere from 300$ to 900$ if you look in the right spot used kirkey seat 80 to150$ steering wheel 10$ used and all accessories needed plus the harder compound tires so you don't have to run new tires every week people that say racing is expensive are the ones that think you have to be up front if you just wanna get a late model to the track and have some fun and don't care about winning not so much I can afford it I could probably afford to be up front I choose not to I make 20$ an hour my wife makes about the same with 2 kids and bills it cost roughly 500 a week I've seen people spend twice that a week to go golfing some people have side by sides some muscle cars some boats as their toys this is the same concept
@justinballard7242
@justinballard7242 4 жыл бұрын
Only 1.36 HP per cid with the 4 barrel. Sad hell it's very high compression race gas engine.
@punman5392
@punman5392 4 жыл бұрын
Probably for race restrictions
@justinballard7242
@justinballard7242 2 жыл бұрын
@@punman5392 possibly. Maybe camshaft restrictions. I build a 489 cid bbc 10:1 compression dynod at 675 hp pump gas street engine
@69yenko65
@69yenko65 4 жыл бұрын
14:28 WTF was that?!
@geerbangr
@geerbangr 4 жыл бұрын
He was breaking the lifters in, duuhhh.
@glastornjet73
@glastornjet73 2 жыл бұрын
You got the valve covers on the wrong side of that 602 crate engine
@davecaskey429
@davecaskey429 4 жыл бұрын
Here I thought we were going to see them build a real late model engine all aluminum around 900 horsepower
@accessgainer8
@accessgainer8 3 жыл бұрын
when the title says iron?
@pressureworks
@pressureworks 2 жыл бұрын
Always feel let down when the video is actually the same as described in the title.
@paulgarcia458
@paulgarcia458 Жыл бұрын
Wharff racing #42, Charlie was the original
@tripleeathletics
@tripleeathletics 3 жыл бұрын
Hate to be Debbie Downer, But if you show up to a track today with that car, and you wouldn’t be able to get out of last place with it. Technology and Chassis have changed TREMENDOUSLY!!!
@shaneferrebee9871
@shaneferrebee9871 2 жыл бұрын
This episode was probably made at least 5-10 years ago
@dirtkicker9275
@dirtkicker9275 3 жыл бұрын
Only affordable class in dirt oval racing is a 4 cylinder hornet anything else is 10 to 20 grand for a motor and that’s a cheaper one
@ablaylock4273
@ablaylock4273 4 жыл бұрын
17:28
@ianwilliams5120
@ianwilliams5120 4 жыл бұрын
This is a baby motor. Super motors have 900+ hp.
@ablaylock4273
@ablaylock4273 4 жыл бұрын
i was thinking the same thing. a stock 427 big block puts out more than this. even with a .560/.580 solid flat cam. something very wrong here.
@cfmechanic
@cfmechanic 4 жыл бұрын
Has to meet class regulations. Needs usable powerband
@cw1824
@cw1824 4 жыл бұрын
@@ablaylock4273 Very simple. 500cfm carb and class rules.
@ablaylock4273
@ablaylock4273 4 жыл бұрын
@@cw1824 I know its a drag on hp. But, I've personally seen a built 283 in a 55 chevy run 11 second 1/4 mile slips with a 500 cm stock 4412. I will say it had a 4 speed and 4.88 gear. But I have to believe it had about 500 to make this happen.....
@causeimbatmaaan
@causeimbatmaaan 4 жыл бұрын
With that kind of clearance you'd think they were building a Ford.
@axlegrind4212
@axlegrind4212 4 жыл бұрын
10:49 that's your choice of ring orientation installing the piston? haha
@kwik440
@kwik440 4 жыл бұрын
Why are you guys so conservative on timing? This kind of motor usually likes 36-38 degrees..
@bilbobaggins4710
@bilbobaggins4710 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah how does a guy set that kind of advance??? Do I have to buy a strip to wrap around the balancer??? The timing tabs have only 2 4 6 8 and 0
@travisklotz9171
@travisklotz9171 4 жыл бұрын
@@bilbobaggins4710buy an advance timing light, then you only need the 0 degree part of the tab
@richardprice4468
@richardprice4468 4 жыл бұрын
My 355 4412 motor likes 41 degrees.
@turboboy0
@turboboy0 4 жыл бұрын
no porting or polishing of the heads is allowed. HOW ABOUT GASKET MATCHING THE INTAKE AND EXHAUST PORTS? LEGAL?
@KingJT80
@KingJT80 4 жыл бұрын
@@Welcometofacsistube and youre not supposed to. it suppose to be port matched. even the edlebrock rpm intake instructions tell you should be doing it. those manifolds on a windsor for example dont even match up to a trick flow 170 and they sure as hell dont flow as much as the head does. its should be flowing more than the head.
@bilbobaggins4710
@bilbobaggins4710 4 жыл бұрын
Wanna toss my salad bro???? Please
@rodericklewis832
@rodericklewis832 4 жыл бұрын
I would love to see what you guys could do with a 5.2 318 magnum. Everyone always builds ford and chevy engines. What about a small block mopar magnum??
@zuestoots5176
@zuestoots5176 4 жыл бұрын
Garbage engines, they wont live up high in the RPM
@rodericklewis832
@rodericklewis832 4 жыл бұрын
You can build any engine to hold high rpm. What exactly is your point. You must don't know much about a small block mopar magnum to even say this.
@bilbobaggins4710
@bilbobaggins4710 4 жыл бұрын
@@rodericklewis832 he's 100% correct friend
@ViperSRTnACR
@ViperSRTnACR 4 жыл бұрын
@@bilbobaggins4710 As he mentioned, a properly built engine with the right parts, including oiling improvements, can make any engine survive. Especially a later model 318. I had one in my Durango years ago and beat on it pretty hard and it never missed a beat with regular oil changes and basic maintenance.
@allanb3222
@allanb3222 4 жыл бұрын
They have hemi engine builds on their site.
@jamestone265
@jamestone265 3 жыл бұрын
Grass roots are NOT late models in any configuration, all are big bucks$$$$$$$$. This engine should have been built with an iron flat tapped cam. Block and heads were right a pro/super stock would have been a better engine to build. Then follow with an IMCA street stock……..bad choice in my opinion.
@PropsandWings
@PropsandWings 4 жыл бұрын
Displacement calculation: bore × bore × stroke x .7854 × number of cylinders gives you the number for those that are wondering. This show needs someone to make things more clear. I get that it's a time crunch but if you're gonna do it right, don't half ass shit.
@dennisnbrown
@dennisnbrown 4 жыл бұрын
Breathers are on wrong head
@bobmorris9687
@bobmorris9687 4 жыл бұрын
His trailer is too narrow......
@jeffjohnson1464
@jeffjohnson1464 3 жыл бұрын
Affordable. Lol
@axlegrind4212
@axlegrind4212 4 жыл бұрын
you don't believe in putting oil on the timing chain? yikes!
@TDRM1989
@TDRM1989 3 жыл бұрын
Don't turn the crank because main bearings aren't round until torqued... Disregard that nonsense advice for the rods though... Cool video either way...
@lte008
@lte008 3 жыл бұрын
.900 cams are about as rigid as a piece of spaghetti. You lose lift with flex. Could have gotten away with a much larger base circle, you only had a stock 400 sbc stroke........
@lannylehman1191
@lannylehman1191 3 жыл бұрын
John 3:16🙂
@shtrzrus
@shtrzrus Жыл бұрын
That air filter is dirty af🤮
@rickyhuff
@rickyhuff 3 жыл бұрын
Ditch the raspy voiced narrator.
@ShortArmStrongArm
@ShortArmStrongArm 2 жыл бұрын
I’d rather drive a Cavalier.
@youknoweverything7643
@youknoweverything7643 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing cheap about dirt or asphalt racing I have been racing asphalt since I was 8 and dirt once in a blue moon if you got 20 grand to blow a year on tires and parts for a full season then you can go asphalt street stick or modified racing ut costs lots of money to win races and make no money
@MRHSDM316SD18186
@MRHSDM316SD18186 4 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Y5lmqtt20rC9fac.html The first line of this Mel McDaniel tune describes your bullet.
@tripleeathletics
@tripleeathletics 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry, But did you just say an affordable form of racing?!?! 😳😂 You have LOST your mind Sir! JUST One of our Super Engines cost 50K, a Crate engine can even cost you 15K or so complete, and a GOOD Chassis, is gonna run you 30K Plus!!! Trust me, There is NOTHING Affordable about DLM Racing these days... 💯
@thephenomenalgarage6707
@thephenomenalgarage6707 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I see too many videos of people saying the cars are "affordable" but have over 50k dumped into the car and their equipment. Mini stocks or street stocks is affordable racing and even that can get a bit pricey
@ROSS219PRODUCTIONS
@ROSS219PRODUCTIONS 2 жыл бұрын
you can get a gm 602 crate engine for around 5k depends on where you buy it
@tripleeathletics
@tripleeathletics 2 жыл бұрын
@@ROSS219PRODUCTIONS You can’t get a “Good” crate engine for 5K anymore. Especially by the time you buy the accessories! You can spend as much on that stuff as you do the engine, If you want to run up front. Look up just what the best headers, carb & a fan costs ya, and don’t forget the engine after it is worked over by a reputable shop… You CAN’T buy a Crate Engine you are going to win a big crate show with for 5K man, it’s not happening…
@tedstyle3798
@tedstyle3798 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah just bolt that engine up to the cherry picker on the aluminum intake manifold... It will be fine...
@tedstyle3798
@tedstyle3798 4 жыл бұрын
@@johncholmes643 I'm talking about the entire weight of the engine on the carb studs
@shaneferrebee9871
@shaneferrebee9871 2 жыл бұрын
It’s fine
@alrussel1326
@alrussel1326 3 жыл бұрын
0
@richardhaubach5043
@richardhaubach5043 4 жыл бұрын
Where are the lash caps guys? Come on.
@Mikesukes
@Mikesukes 3 жыл бұрын
Screw that 2 barrel crap
@DOMBITTALOR9
@DOMBITTALOR9 4 жыл бұрын
he could not have a worse haircut
@bilbobaggins4710
@bilbobaggins4710 4 жыл бұрын
Oh god....Are you gay???
@bilbobaggins4710
@bilbobaggins4710 4 жыл бұрын
It's a bowl cut baby. . Long live the Bowl 🙋
@thestumaji656
@thestumaji656 4 жыл бұрын
I love how they say they measure the crank to .00001 and then use a .000 mic im calling bull shit on that! the best resolution your getting with that mic is .0005 and that's not gonna work.
@bowhite1293
@bowhite1293 2 жыл бұрын
I missed where they said they measured to .00001" I've used Mitutoyo mics just like that. They measure .0000"
@BrandonCorby-wr5nd
@BrandonCorby-wr5nd 4 жыл бұрын
Rules like this on the engine are stupid. Better efficiency is good for the engine. Smaller engines lower weight.
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