Disabled Guest Explains How Disney's New DAS System Excludes Those That Need It The Most

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7 күн бұрын

Disabled Guest Explains How Disney's New DAS System Excludes Those That Need It The Most
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@MioRaem
@MioRaem 5 күн бұрын
The girl is wheelchair-bound and can barely breathe on her own - how tone-deaf do you have to be to deny her every bit of available assistance as she shows up and just wants to forget her challenging real life for a few hours. Shameful.
@Cowpitulate
@Cowpitulate 4 күн бұрын
ye but transsexual men in dresses should get priority in order to help dress young 5 year old girls like princesses. Which would you rather, someone who is disabled being treated human or a demon in disguise having their feelings hurt cause they can't touch little children?
@vampuricknight1
@vampuricknight1 3 күн бұрын
Disney - That girl isn't 'disabled enough' to be treated like a person with a disability. Everyone else after 5 seconds looking at her - Oh yeah she definitely qualifies as disabled.
@jphanks
@jphanks 3 күн бұрын
She's not breathing on her own. That's an invasive ventilator. I use a non-invasive version.
@jennieh.6494
@jennieh.6494 2 күн бұрын
She’s not wheelchair bound. She can stand and walk around and can breathe on her own for short periods
@brianmonahan6838
@brianmonahan6838 2 күн бұрын
@@jennieh.6494 How do you know this?
@survivaloptions4999
@survivaloptions4999 5 күн бұрын
It is absolutely heartbreaking. She's willing to pay more to be treated like a human being should be treated. Unfortunately I believe it would be a civil rights violation to charge disabled persons a fee for access. This has just gotten so far out of hand.
@sararubinstein5384
@sararubinstein5384 5 күн бұрын
Yes, it is absolutely wrong to make disabled guests pay extra just so they can safely experience the park. Besides, her suggestion is only a cost savings for those who go multiple times year. If you are an infrequent disabled guest, it would be no difference in cost. But overall, it's wrong regardless because no disabled person should have to pay more.
@survivaloptions4999
@survivaloptions4999 5 күн бұрын
​@sararubinstein5384 Yep. It's a catch 22 for sure. She shouldn't have to offer to pay more, but she's willing to come up with her own solution and pay extra for it, but even if they wanted to let her, they couldn't because it violates the ADA. Foresight is no longer a quality Disney executives seem to posses.
@joeybaseball7352
@joeybaseball7352 4 күн бұрын
​@@survivaloptions4999 Here's a crazy idea. Why don't they just stop going to disneyland and giving them their money? Why do they continue to willingly give them their money, for a corporation that clearly doesn't care about you, and possibly even discriminating against you. Protest with your wallet. If every disabled person, and ally, did that, disney would feel it, and they would abolish this. But instead, they choose to lube up, and let disney take advantage of them, by continuing to throw money at them, even though they're being discriminated against. What incentive does disney have to change, if they know they have them wrapped around their finger, and they can always take them for granted, no matter what they do?
@brianscotpatterson2101
@brianscotpatterson2101 5 күн бұрын
It's absolutely gross that a cast member who may not have training in any understanding of specific disabilities (which may not be visible) get to pass judgment on the "severity" of a disability.
@ThisHandleIsNotAvailable.
@ThisHandleIsNotAvailable. 5 күн бұрын
So much for inclusion.
@TheGraduate702
@TheGraduate702 5 күн бұрын
They don’t have a cast member making that decision. It’s a vendor
@nancy9478
@nancy9478 4 күн бұрын
​@user-li2yv5je5ethat is short sighted. So only able bodied people should be able to enjoy the park?
@Roadent1241
@Roadent1241 4 күн бұрын
Why do people who have no experience in our skin have a say in what we can and can't do in life? I do also mean for trying to get Disability Allowance and such in 'first world' countries like the UK and America.
@Roadent1241
@Roadent1241 4 күн бұрын
​@user-li2yv5je5e Can I leave Earth because I don't like their system overall? XD I might visit once or twice a year...
@biancabee7900
@biancabee7900 4 күн бұрын
People living with an actual disability don’t want to be labelled, put in boxes, have certificates or interviews judging their issues. They’ve had to put up with that shit all their lives. They just want to come to the park, join in and enjoy themselves. If they need a little extra help to get there, let’s give it to them. What kind of a society have we become.
@biancabee7900
@biancabee7900 4 күн бұрын
@user-li2yv5je5e no doubt. And now those with real disabilities are being penalised.
@taniam1976
@taniam1976 3 күн бұрын
@@biancabee7900 You made a superb points! Thank you for expressing that so eloquently. I agree! I have a child with special needs and want him to be treated just like everybody else.
@biancabee7900
@biancabee7900 3 күн бұрын
@@taniam1976 unfortunately they have cast members on minimum wage making those decisions.
@Livingtheinvisiblelife
@Livingtheinvisiblelife 3 күн бұрын
@user-li2yv5je5eand now us who are actually disabled we have minimum wage workers deciding if I’m disabled enough and now we’re getting punished for the people who may have been abusing the system despite that you cannot just look at someone and decide if they’re disabled because invisible disabilities do exist. Until I became wheelchair bound you would look at me and think I was abusing the DASpass because my disability at that point was not visible.
@climateanxiety2825
@climateanxiety2825 2 күн бұрын
What would be an example of a non "actual" disability?
@Narco42
@Narco42 5 күн бұрын
The Idea that you have to agree to not sue them as part of a class action before you do your interview is all the information we need to know that the system is broken and Disney knows it.
@refreshingdesignsjewelry
@refreshingdesignsjewelry 5 күн бұрын
bingo!
@ohplezz
@ohplezz 4 күн бұрын
Their wavier won’t hold up in federal court due to it being a bad faith document.
@ThemeparkNThings
@ThemeparkNThings 4 күн бұрын
@@ohplezzplus the American disability act that is federal law Disney can’t win against that
@alpyki2588
@alpyki2588 2 күн бұрын
Not to mention this is a potentially big HIPPA violation, depending upon how they handle it.
@karebear3152
@karebear3152 Күн бұрын
This is flat out discrimination. What happened to their "diversity and inclusion" company policy? Total hypocrisy...
@jsporcu1048
@jsporcu1048 5 күн бұрын
Amazing for a company that’s worried about inclusivity……this is shameful!
@whistlingsage9817
@whistlingsage9817 5 күн бұрын
Wrong kind of inclusivity; they redefined what it means now.
@ArcaneZippity
@ArcaneZippity 5 күн бұрын
These days I think the concept of the word vs the actual actions behind the use of the word, are in constant flux, based on the user of the word without any regard to what others think... In most cases, it tends to be used as an excuse for bad behavior, and as a shield to quell debate...
@MrMaxRebos
@MrMaxRebos 5 күн бұрын
It is all about money
@dayoldbread1696
@dayoldbread1696 4 күн бұрын
@@MrMaxRebosexactly, with Disney greed triumphs over their obsession with “inclusivity”
@julianvega2677
@julianvega2677 4 күн бұрын
I thought the same thing. They don't mean it. It's a gimmick and it's one that's not working for them. I've always said, people with disabilities after the first and most discriminated against everywhere in the world.
@tootired4268
@tootired4268 5 күн бұрын
She isn't just in a wheelchair, she's on a ventilator. What is wrong with Disney?!
@VixenLovelove
@VixenLovelove 5 күн бұрын
@@samwhitaker0She mentioned she bought her own scooter and the 380 dollars is just to maintain her ventilator. Is it any wonder disabled people don’t want to shill out more money for a once free accommodation just to escape from their hard lives in the real world?
@taniam1976
@taniam1976 5 күн бұрын
I think the purpose of DAS is for those who CANNOT WAIT IN LINE. As an example, severe autism manifests into horrible tantrums and even violence that can be triggered in line-ups or large, close crowds. Charisma is so lovely and made her argument so eloquently though. ❤ I wish her all the blessing life could bring upon her.
@tootired4268
@tootired4268 5 күн бұрын
@@taniam1976 you think waiting in line in 100 degree heat and humidity is feasible for her? She can not regulate her body temperature as easily as you or I can when she's stuck in a chair and her air supply essentially acts as a greenhouse making it even less tolerable to breathe. This whole neurodivergent disability is getting out of hand. Being neurodivergent does not make one incapable of basic bodily functions in high heat. Being neurodivergent does not increase your risk of heat stroke. There may be a case to allow some cases of neurodivergence to qualify but there should without a doubt be qualifications for physical disability.
@herooflight7931
@herooflight7931 5 күн бұрын
Short answer is everything
@ItsameBS
@ItsameBS 5 күн бұрын
@@tootired4268she doesn’t have to wait in line. Her guests do. Or buy LL and still wait in a line.
@13KcMagicGirl13
@13KcMagicGirl13 5 күн бұрын
Disney needs to hire people who are living with disabilities to organize their new das.
@adamp2384
@adamp2384 3 күн бұрын
You know what the kicker is, and this isn’t widely circulated but I spoke to a cast member at Disney who has accommodation while She is working because she is disabled but was also Denied DAS, no Disney only cares about the dollar signs
@roverboy006
@roverboy006 5 күн бұрын
This should go viral because the Bob Iger Company should be shamed into reversing course. This is beyond atrocious. Here we have a obviously disabled person, videoing at the park, in full Disney attire and donning merchandise. Vash said it right, if DAS is not for people in her situation, then who is it for? Bob Iger needs to issue a video apology to this individual. Greed, just plain greed.
@user-oz8lv4eo8h
@user-oz8lv4eo8h 5 күн бұрын
She was on a breathing tube. Basic portable vent machine. So what part of disable does Disney not understand? This is wrong we need to speak out about this. This is immoral.
@davidmacias741
@davidmacias741 4 күн бұрын
Dose the person have to be dead! Crazy!
@keithbarnes9419
@keithbarnes9419 3 күн бұрын
Since they have widened all of the attraction ques their thinking is that wheelchair use /confinement has "been taken care of" the disabilities that DAS is now used to compensate for are forms of anxiety caused by crowds, waiting in line etc... the screener, just follows a predetermined flow chart i.e., Dose applicant use wheelchair?, if yes deny, if no proceed to question 6.
@JourneyingBard
@JourneyingBard 3 күн бұрын
@@keithbarnes9419it makes me wonder how they’d respond to me. In a chair due to neurological and orthopedic issues, I also live with acute social anxiety and PTSD. Would that question even be addressed if their flowchart cut me out early because I have access to a power chair? The whole thing breaks my heart.
@jayneestrycker7453
@jayneestrycker7453 5 күн бұрын
As a registered nurse myself, why can't Disney hire RN's for the das interviews? Believe me, a lot of deserving people would get the pass.
@elainehill5931
@elainehill5931 5 күн бұрын
Yes I agree! I have an interview coming up next month for my grandson and I intend to ask them what their qualifications are to advise how we are to manage his disability. Such as the practice standing in line at home? That could be considered CBT which would be giving medical advice.
@13ishAbbie
@13ishAbbie 5 күн бұрын
Sadly, Disney doesn’t want to give you DAS. They want you to buy the lightning lane system. My daughter has had DAS for years. She was denied. I won’t get into particulars but our friends are absolutely appalled and unbelieving. The Disney would do this to a disabled person. She has the medical card. The universal requires. My family is letting their annual passes run out at Disney and will now be Universal passholders. This year marks my 50th anniversary of going to Disney 51? Not so much! My heart goes out to the young lady in the video. May Disney come to their senses so that you can enjoy the park you love with your family and friends
@That_Service_Dog_Show
@That_Service_Dog_Show 5 күн бұрын
While you likely are a competant nurse, I've worked with too many who are not. My husband has five different kinds of seizures. I worked in the ER when a woman came in with her daughter with something that she felt was seizures and wanted her checked out. I was not a medical member of the staff so I had to keep my mouth shut, or I would lose my job. When the girl had a seizure right there at the intake desk, the mom was panicking and asking if it was a seizure, and the nurse was like, "Ma'am, seizures don't act like that." WHAT!! At last count there have been more than 2000 types of presentation of seizures that are put into a few categories. But this nurse just told the mom that the daughter was just faking. SMH!! I personally wouldn't mind getting a letter from my doctor who treats my multitude of disabilities, same for my son with his autism. Making sure that someone that I have a medical relationship with to actually make the decision.
@annien.1727
@annien.1727 4 күн бұрын
@@13ishAbbie 😡😡💢💢WRONG WORDS TO SAY!!! VERY WRONG!!! You and your family ARE going back to Disney and enjoy Disney's 51 because Disney is going to change for the better! STOP letting your annual passes run out at Disney and DON'T be Universal passholders! While I'm sorry to hear that your daughter was denied DAS, I plan to DO something about that!!! I'm NOT joking about this at ALL! Disney WILL come to their senses so that all of you can enjoy the park you love with your family and friends!!! Disney will change back to the way it was, accommodating to all the disabled. So STOP what you're doing and listen! I PROMISE that we'll DO everything in my power to make things right at Disney AGAIN!!!
@bncsmom1
@bncsmom1 4 күн бұрын
They supposedly have "medical professionals" through a third party. When you ask what their credentials are, though, they get mad and hang up on you.
@richardnasluchacz3227
@richardnasluchacz3227 3 күн бұрын
DAS has never been about addressing a wide range of disabilities. As a disabled man, I have inquired 2 times, once before and once after the changes. Both time I was told it was NOT for persons with mobility issues, that it was for people with cognitive issues that made it difficult to stay in line without being a disruption. For others like this woman, and me, we are instructed to 1) use handicap / wheel chair access entrances, where they exist for rides, and get a return time for boarding, 2) use rides that are ADA compliant (all in DCA, galaxy’s edge in DL), or consider paying for lightning lane if standing for long periods is an issue. I was told if I had issues standing, I needed to get a mobility scooter. That did not change. Please, don’t get me wrong, Disney does a VERY POOR job of addressing the needs of the handicap population by failing to provide adequate parking, refusing to enforce parking to those who have a valid need/permit, and making sure that handicap quests are not abused by others. I’ve seen many cars incorrectly parked in areas that were designated as handicap only, seen spots reserved for handicap vehicles that did not meet state requirements, and the entire Pixar Pals structure has zero handicap designated spots. Restaurants are not managed well to allow access to tables. Aisles have been reduced in stores to allow for more merchandise, and cast members who are rude or will only give helpful information about access if pressed to give details. The biggest change for DAS is the contracting it out to a 3rd party who has some medical training to evaluate verifications.
@darakelian
@darakelian 5 күн бұрын
I had a conversation with Disney Client Services after the new policy was announced but before it was enacted. There are members of my party with orthopedic issues, and with coronary issues. Standing in line is difficult. I asked if I could get clearance ahead of time to avoid embarrassment and offered to supply supporting medical records, in an effort to have our account noted permanently or even yearly. I felt for the cast member. She understood the problem, had literally no training on how to handle the issue, and asked me to delay our trip until cast members could receive training. It is humiliating. And at this point, I'll just pay the money. And if it's still too difficult we have made a decision to just go elsewhere. One shouldn't have to beg. And by the way -- the "ban" threats that were made public when this policy change was announced are ludicrous. It's on Disney. They have to have clear and just guidelines published. And, although I am not a proponent of firing people, whoever came up with this insulting cash grab should be fired out of hand. This entire mess is unacceptable.
@ThemeParkAngel
@ThemeParkAngel 3 күн бұрын
The issue with orthopedic issues is that they would force you to rent a wheelchair since the lines are wheelchair friendly with only 2 or 3 exceptions in the entire property
@darakelian
@darakelian 3 күн бұрын
@@ThemeParkAngel Thank you for your response, but that is true of virtually everyone with a serious health issue. And it is a way to go. It's not about the cost. It's about the dignity of the person. Maybe they would rather not be in a wheelchair. We had the ability to do that before the change in policy... which frankly seems more like the lack of a workable policy. We have, as a group, decided to politely boycott Disney rather than make one of our party feel uncomfortable. It's a better route for us to go.
@ThemeParkAngel
@ThemeParkAngel 2 күн бұрын
@darakelian not disagreeing with you. Making someone pay for a wheelchair or genie or lightening is not right. You should not have to pay to enjoy the experiences that others enjoy.
@KoubuPilot
@KoubuPilot 5 күн бұрын
It’s so shady how Disney forces applicants to agree not to sue them
@trevorwhitham6742
@trevorwhitham6742 5 күн бұрын
Otherwise the person trying to sue would end up like John Barnett
@ThemeparkNThings
@ThemeparkNThings 4 күн бұрын
The American disability act over rules Disneys application it’s federal law Disney would lose and can’t fight it Disney can’t block someone disabled if they sue them
@mikalmos369
@mikalmos369 Күн бұрын
It's not only Shady because I'm pretty sure that it is illegal and they are exploiting some kind of loophole probably greased by a contribution to some politicians campaign fund.
@user-jz8ev7iv7g
@user-jz8ev7iv7g 5 күн бұрын
with narcissists, it's not about helping - it's about *appearing* to be helping
@angeliqueduvois
@angeliqueduvois 5 күн бұрын
@@user-jz8ev7iv7g that sums up the rat
@Darkstar-se6wc
@Darkstar-se6wc 4 күн бұрын
Elon Musk called it. Hi Bob!
@esta8651
@esta8651 3 күн бұрын
Elon Musk: a champion for the disabled 🙄(Bob is awful too)
@MrWarners14
@MrWarners14 3 күн бұрын
Disney should be absolutely ashamed of themselves for even letting such an unfair system be put in place and it’s completely ableist against people who need it most. Not to mention how greedy the price is.. Absolutely ludicrous. As someone with Autism, that is downright horrible and shameful.
@PinkTigger33
@PinkTigger33 5 күн бұрын
This is the last straw Disney. I took mom there several years ago when she could still walk, even though it was assisted, and we did not get a DAS pass for her. We stood in standby like everyone else, however, most of time, a cast member would pull us out of line and take us though a short cut and board immediately. Mom's disability was very obvious even to an untrained eye, and we were treated very well by everyone. That was back in 2016 before Disney lost their ever lovin' mind. We did not ask for special treatment, yet they gave it regardless. Even nicer, were the kneeling buses that leaned over so it lowered the steps and was easier for mom to board. Disney used to be the place to go if you had disabilities, because they accommodated and welcomed us. Disney, every day now in 2024, I hear and see something bad about y'all, but this is the last straw. Not another dime. I put all my Disney memorabilia away, all my Disney shirts packed up, and as one of Disney's loudest and proudest former supporters/promoters, I will shut up and not another word will support this evil Disney. Y'all wanted a villains park, you got it.
@LCLand
@LCLand Күн бұрын
Same. Our recent experiences have been so ridiculous we didn’t buy one souvenir and I’ve begun giving away Disney items to charity
@truckingwithatablet4489
@truckingwithatablet4489 5 күн бұрын
As a disabled person this situation and Disney response just pisses me off. I already shared this video
@PeeperSnail
@PeeperSnail 2 күн бұрын
How far Disney parks have fallen. Back in the day being disabled in any sense of the word netted you fast access to rides, with zero questioning from staff. One time I went back in the very early 2010s I sprained my ankle and had to rent wheelchairs to get by the parks. I was allowed to enter the rides fast without questioning.
@johnp139
@johnp139 2 күн бұрын
Because so many non-disabled people have EXPLOITED THIS!!!
@SF-wm7zf
@SF-wm7zf 5 күн бұрын
At this point, not only are we not ever going back to a Disney property, but I feel ashamed at having paid them thousands of dollars for years on family vacations.
@refreshingdesignsjewelry
@refreshingdesignsjewelry 5 күн бұрын
it is so sad and frustrating. This is not what Disney used to be! ☹
@chrisc6085
@chrisc6085 5 күн бұрын
I don’t think you should necessarily be ashamed for your past experiences at Disney, the company was run by competent people at one time but who ever is in charge now should be ashamed of how they let their quality and experience diminish severely since the changing of the guard. I used to love Disney because of Walt Disney but unfortunately modern Disney is trying to erase Walt’s legacy and I have no interest in giving Disney any of my money for the crappy movies, overpriced merch, and lame parks. Last time I went to Disney was 10 years ago and I used to go almost once a summer when I was a kid but this new DEI Disney is not what I became a fan of when I was young.
@SF-wm7zf
@SF-wm7zf 5 күн бұрын
@@chrisc6085 yeah, great memories that the kids remember fondly.
@disneymama4475
@disneymama4475 4 күн бұрын
I have severe anxiety and panic disorder. I was denied. My husband who has always been approved in the past, because he’s disabled and a wheelchair user, was denied. Went 2 weeks ago for a fun day out (WDW) and had a major panic attack in the line for Kali River Rapids. We left the line and left the park.
@genxkay358
@genxkay358 3 күн бұрын
So sorry to hear this.
@johnp139
@johnp139 2 күн бұрын
Then maybe you shouldn’t be visiting theme parks!
@johnp139
@johnp139 2 күн бұрын
I have major panic attacks when riding roller coasters, yet every time I rode a Disney roller coaster, they did nothing to console me.
@PopcornPopper
@PopcornPopper Күн бұрын
I don't mean this disrespectfully at all, but why would you choose to go to a place like a theme park with your type of issues? It would seem like it's a prime place for your issues to be triggered. I've had to make the decision to not visit Disney parks for other reasons. My life isn't over...I do other things instead
@LCLand
@LCLand 23 сағат бұрын
Or they could be gracious and provide a simple accommodation so she could enjoy the park because that’s what SHE would like to do.
@MoonbeamGardener
@MoonbeamGardener 5 күн бұрын
I cannot imagine agreeing to leave a friend or loved one by themselves in a bustling, crowded area, even if they weren't disabled. Anything could happen and they wouldn't have anyone with them. And they expect families and friends to leave disabled people off, by themselves, surrounded by strangers!? Absolutely NO WAY.
@bncsmom1
@bncsmom1 4 күн бұрын
Yeah...in a park that was created because its creator wanted a place for families to have fun, TOGETHER. SMH...
@StrawberryTikibird
@StrawberryTikibird 3 күн бұрын
I’ve never written a comment before but I had to for this. I have multiple autoimmune diseases and a bunch of other bodily disorders that make anything physical very difficult and painful. Sometimes I can walk, sometimes I need mobility aids, I can’t stay in the heat for extended periods of time, and I can’t be in the direct sun for even moderate periods of time. My disabilities are already isolating enough, having to be separated from my family and or friends for what might be hours would be devastating and basically the opposite of the entire reason I would go: to enjoy the place I love with the people I love. I was a die hard Disney fan for years, annual pass holder for practically my whole life, I was raised on Disney and it still feels like a sacred part of who I am. My mom (who’d been going to WDW since it opened in 1971) and I cancelled our passes two years ago because of rising prices combined with cuts in budget and quality on Disney’s part. It was a hard decision and I felt crushed and disappointed in Disney. When news about the changes to the disability pass came out a few months ago I was disgusted with Disney, I understood that people were abusing the system but this was not a viable solution for those with physical disabilities. Use mobility aids and wait. What a poor understanding and lack of empathy they showed with these changes. I’ve been going to Universal instead and they seem to understand the importance of treating your guests right, even if they’re disability pass is a bit of a pain to get at least you can still get it! I never thought there’d come a day where I’d boycott Disney in any way but since their DAS pass changes I’ve cancelled all their services, unfollowed all their accounts, and will not be purchasing a single piece of officially licensed merchandise until they get their act together. It’s also shocking to me that it’s taken this long for their discriminatory changes against physical disabilities to be widely noticed.
@theresamarie6258
@theresamarie6258 4 күн бұрын
I tried to get a DAS pass last month for myself. I have anxiety and a joint condition where if I stand for long periods of time, I am in such pain that I can’t walk. I was denied. The phone call was over an hour and one of the most invasive things I have gone through. The cast member kept saying “you don’t have to say anything that you don’t want to” but then would push for more information about my health. Also, if I don’t tell details of my condition, how would they know what my problem is so that they could give me a DAS pass? The call itself gave me anxiety because I had to say what happens when my anxiety rises and my coping mechanisms. By the time I got off the phone, I was in tears. The only accommodations they offered were a wheelchair (which my joint condition I have been advised by a doctor that I need to keep moving) or have someone in my party wait for me. The rest of my family also has various disabilities and would not be able to do that. They clearly did not plan for families that all have disabilities that need to be accommodated. They then said to go to each individual ride in the parks and tell the cast member there because each ride has various other accommodations based on how their line is set up. We did that. We were told by the various cast members that the DAS cast members online were wrong and that they could only offer us a wheelchair or the party member standing in line option. We felt as if we had just been handed off to the next person so that the cast member online wouldn’t have to deal with us anymore. We had planned our trip before the changes were made to DAS and when we told the cast member online that and that we might have to cancel our trip, she said in a very snide manner “well you won’t be refunded.” So we went. We paid thousands of dollars and my family was not able to ride one ride in Hollywood Studios due to the long wait times. We have been going to Disney World regularly for 20 years. Honestly, this was probably our swan song. So disappointing. If you read this far, thank you for listening.
@oldguy6729
@oldguy6729 4 күн бұрын
It is heartbreaking to hear her speak. Disney has completely lost its moral compass. I wish it were just about profit. The movies are proof that it isn’t. It is all so sad to watch. Terrible leadership all the way to the top.
@kaykay6816
@kaykay6816 5 күн бұрын
Disney denying this person access to DAS is truly awful and I hope the story goes viral and shames them. I think it’s also interesting to see how people react to people with very visible disabilities vs people with internal/psychological disabilities. It tells me we need more education and empathy about disabilities across the board. Also, this was less of an issue when EVERYONE got free access to the fast pass system. People with disabilities could plan their day accordingly and able bodied people had freedom to do the same… let’s not lose sight of the issue being Disney’s money grab!! We all should be pressuring Disney to do better by its customers across the board.
@OCKev
@OCKev 2 күн бұрын
Vash nailed our situation exactly. We have had annual passes/magic keys for my disabled daughter about 8 times now over the last 20 years. We splurged this year and purchased the top key at $1750 each. My daughter has qualified for the DAS pass every time. I am pretty certain she will not qualify for the DAS pass under the new rules. Basically, instead of going to Disneyland 5 times per month for about 4 hours per visit, we will probably now only go once or twice for 4 hours per visit. We still have 8 months left on our passes. Disney changed the rules on us after we purchased the passes. Seems like we should be able to get a prorated refund on our passes.
@moirad3895
@moirad3895 5 күн бұрын
It’s so horrible and shameful!!! Walt Disney himself would be outraged!!!! Disney needs to change their morals. They’ll give everything to the shills who praise Tiana’s bayou adventure but turn away this poor woman who needs DAS!!!
@dee_mcgee11
@dee_mcgee11 2 күн бұрын
The ones who need it the most are the ones who suffer from a well documented history of people who knowingly abused the system by using a disabled person to bypass waiting in line.
@Khopper224
@Khopper224 3 күн бұрын
I’ve gone to Disney world as a little kid and the accessibility for someone like myself with a severe disability was honestly part of the magic of the Disney experience. I didn’t have to worry about not being able to access rides or shows and being separated from my parents while waiting in line. I had been tentatively talking with my mom about taking a family trip to Disney world since we haven’t been there in over two decades. If the new disability service system is this flawed, though, I am concerned that I would pay for the expensive tickets and end up not being able to safely enjoy the parks. Please do better Disney. Most people with disabilities don’t have money to burn on a wasted trip if they are unable to get disability services.
@mikalmos369
@mikalmos369 Күн бұрын
I'm very sad to say as a former Disney cast member and also someone who has become disabled and a disability advocate, I would suggest spending your money elsewhere. I'm sorry but this is not the same Disney you and I know. Aside from that they refused to the number of daily entrances and don't expand enough to accommodate this so the lines on the existing attractions just get longer and longer and longer all the while they drive up the price more and more. Many of the resorts and eateries have been completely deep themed or dumbed down as I like to say demagiced. These problems are especially evident at Disney World but Disneyland as you can see is being invaded by the same beyond greed mentality. Once Upon a Time Disney understood that leading with creative and providing exceptional service along with magical experiences yet kept the price in line enough for most people to afford a trip there several times in their life where is now it's a once-in-a-lifetime experience for the vast majority of people. Of course by having this attitude they need to make Cuts somewhere to appease the shareholders and this is the most recent. Disney has become lost in the wilderness. I strongly believe that this current system is very likely illegal but has been made possible by exploiting some kind of loophole and probably greasing the campaign funds of a few politicians. I want to go just to prove a point so I can sue the hell out of them but they're even trying to make that impossible as well. You know why? It's because they know it's illegal.
@karencarter18042
@karencarter18042 Күн бұрын
My friend said he had problems with Disney and how they dealt with him. He does not have legs and uses a wheel chair, his boys are 8 and 10, so not going to wait in line by themselves even if dad will not go on ride with them. He did not tell me what ride it was but he was not planning on going on just supervising his kids in line. When they got to the point where the next ride would be his kids . He was told he could not ride by a cast member he said only his sons were going to ride and that cast member said no. The dad asked if his sons were not tall enough to ride by themselves he was told no . Another cast member came up pot his boys in their seat and help my friend get to the end of the ride to wait for his sons. My friend could not figure out why there was a cast member handling the situation one way that would exclude his son and another cast member dealt with it another way cause the parent with them is in a wheelchair.
@365ral
@365ral 5 күн бұрын
All the more reason to bring back Fast Passes. Folks can't use DAS to skip line costs if it doesn't cost anything to skip the lines.
@jamielovejaxfunandfood
@jamielovejaxfunandfood 5 күн бұрын
Das is not skipping limes the time for standby is the time person waits. They just wait outside of the que maybe in ac or shop be able to go to bathroom and get medication ect.
@365ral
@365ral 5 күн бұрын
@@jamielovejaxfunandfood I said they're skipping costs, not wait time. A lot of people have been misusing DAS to avoid paying for LL's. If it were free again, there would be no extra payments to avoid.
@LCLand
@LCLand 23 сағат бұрын
@@jamielovejaxfunandfoodmy friend has one for her daughter and we indeed skipped the entire line. Even LL
@rvvanlife8113
@rvvanlife8113 5 күн бұрын
So people with disabilities should be separated from their families while on a family vacation? What? This is not a skip the line program. It's a wait somewhere else until it's your turn system. Families still need to wait the same length of time but separately? This is awful.
@refreshingdesignsjewelry
@refreshingdesignsjewelry 4 күн бұрын
Right?! The whole point of the vacation was to be together. What is this nonsense?!!! Disney is so completely out of touch with what Walt built it to be in the beginning.
@Furinastan
@Furinastan Күн бұрын
i have autism; i find this so gross. All disabled people should be able to have das. The fact someone who has medical documents is getting denied in general is horrible.
@alisongreen7447
@alisongreen7447 4 күн бұрын
I think wheen we had the free pre selection some people who may have needed the Das pass would use that instead rather than jump through the DAS hoops. But once they started charging for this people who "managed" ended up asking for the Das pass. This makes Disney think there is a lot of abuse, when I think it was a relatively small number of people.
@nataliyalalor4915
@nataliyalalor4915 4 күн бұрын
We used the pre-booked fast pass for our trip to disneyworld in 2019, before we knew that our son was autistic. It worked well but it also helped that our son was too small to go on the huge long wait rides. 2023 and 2024 we used DAS and there were still meltdowns in the park each day. DAS is absolutely essential, especially for rides that don’t have LL because even a 20-minute line is challenging for him due to his sensory issues. I think you’re 100% right in your statement.
@cathyy7130
@cathyy7130 4 күн бұрын
@@nataliyalalor4915 My daughter has severe nonverbal ASD, and while we've never gone to any Disney Park with her, we have been hoping to take her to WDW next year for her 18th birthday. I've weighed our options with and without DAS, and what it comes down to is knowing her triggers. We know she is a runner, so plan to use a wheelchair as a stroller for her. This will also keep her from getting overly tired, which is a trigger. We know that we can distract her with a Tablet or Phone (With the Walmart App, her favorite,) and with treats and fidget toys. My husband and I both also have mobility issues, which would not qualify for DAS because we are both able to transfer from an ECV to the rides without problems. We had considered the possibility of hiring a Para to accompany us to assist with Daughter, but under the new DAS guidelines a Para wouldn't be allowed, which means that we would have to rely on our 16 year old son to assist with pushing the wheelchair (He and my husband can switch out pushing the wheelchair and riding the ECV. I'm considered a fall risk because I can lose my balance easily.) We aren't concerned about going at a slower pace than most people. We already know that there will be attractions that we will miss, but we know which ones we want to prioritize, and if my daughter needs to take breaks throughout the day, that doesn't mean hubby and son can't go enjoy themselves for a while while daughter and I rest somewhere off the beaten path. We also plan on going at one of the slower times of year, so less crowds to begin with, and shorter lines. I guess my point is that they are prioritizing DAS for people who actually have alternative options, while people who legitimately need it are being refused, but either way, what most people really need to do is actually sit down and PLAN for what they can and cannot do. Do the research before you go. There are descriptions of the wheelchair access loading options on the rides that have it, and what options you have for the rides that don't have access yet. Just because some people don't qualify for DAS, doesn't mean they can't get the optimal experience from the parks. And for the people who abused the system to begin with, this is why we can't have nice things...
@greywell2982
@greywell2982 5 күн бұрын
I don't quite understand, she has a wheelchair, she has a breathing tube, and she has a problem with her eye. But they denied her? It makes you wonder how they are going to accoundiate people with disabilities.
@bncsmom1
@bncsmom1 4 күн бұрын
They've told at least one legally blind person to rent an electric mobility scooter.
@mikalmos369
@mikalmos369 Күн бұрын
​​@@bncsmom1seriously WTF... Really?!? I hope that this has been documented somewhere.
@That_Service_Dog_Show
@That_Service_Dog_Show 5 күн бұрын
Was told that I could "Catch up to my party" as well. But was told tough luck if I don't come with someone else, which I usually travel alone with my service dog. I have a power chair, C-PTSD, and can stop breathing if kept in close quarters with common chemicals found in personal hygiene and laundry products. Wearing my respirator only helps for short times. After about half an hour, I will have absorbed enough through my skin and eyes that I still will start to react. But sure, let me wait in a 90-minute line and we will get to have EMTs try to resuscitate me.
@VixenLovelove
@VixenLovelove 5 күн бұрын
That’s horrendous. I have a service dog too and I do not want to force her to be in a claustrophobic space for an hour. She’s getting older too so I would appreciate if every attraction had a crate like universal cause even the dark rides jossel her around a bit and she’s too big for me to hold.
@That_Service_Dog_Show
@That_Service_Dog_Show 5 күн бұрын
@@VixenLovelove Having a service dog, alone, has never qualified one to get DAS. Nor using a scooter or wheelchair. But the adjacent disabilities that many have, including the woman in the video as well as myself, is what would qualify. But now, even those who are neurodivergent and/or with things like PTSD are even being excluded. Despite what their website states. The last time DAS was updated, they did push for more mental health disabilities, as well. But it still did aide in things that included those who have to use the bathroom at the drop of the hat, or those who can pass out due to long exposure to sun and so on. Basically, this is a way to say that they offer accommodations for the disabled without actually having to give it to those same disabled. Because let's face it; they don't value us as customers.
@VixenLovelove
@VixenLovelove 5 күн бұрын
@@That_Service_Dog_Show I understand that. I have some other disabilities. I’m just saying for as much as Disney claims to be disability friendly, universal has them beat. Especially now. Last I check Disney stock is at 99 dollars so I like to think part of that is all the disabled guests that have cancelled their trips.
@ForbiddenSecrets
@ForbiddenSecrets 3 күн бұрын
I just wish they would let us pre-apply before we buy tickets. My wife has always qualified and she can’t handle the parks without it but we just can’t risk us buying the tickets first and then getting denied under the new system. (We think she should quality but they seem to be rejecting anyone but little boys with autism).
@jakejorgensen269
@jakejorgensen269 5 күн бұрын
Disney is a terrible company. Disney needs to stop holding the general public in such disregard. This was entirely foreseeable and more videos like this are likely to come out.
@annien.1727
@annien.1727 4 күн бұрын
😡💢💢You're WRONG!!! This was entirely UNFORSEEABLE and NO more videos like this are likely to come out because Disney is NOT a terrible company! Disney is a GREAT company with a TERRIBLE CEO! And Bob Iger is the TERRIBLE CEO in question! HE'S the one holding the general public in such disregard! But that's all going to change. His days as Disney's CEO are numbered. It won't be long before he gets replaced by someone who actually cares about Disney and its fans. Instead of mindlessly blaming Disney, let's blame the executives. They're causing this mess, NOT Disney!
@ysykes489
@ysykes489 3 күн бұрын
My husband is a disabled vet. He has horrible neuropathy, many other neurological issues (including MS) especially in his legs. He does use a cane and we do have to take breaks often while in a park setting such as Disney. We went to the MK at Disneyworld to get a DAS pass a few years ago. The lady said; well, he can use a wheelchair, can't he? The point is, he does not want to use a chair. He is a Marine, so he continues to walk so he doesn't lose use of his legs. It was like she (lady at Disney) totally miss the purpose of the pass? We left very frustrated, and he said he would never ask for help again like that. It was very sad. This young lady in the video on the vent definitely could have used a DAS pass. Disney needs to pay attention to Universal as it was not like this there (we did both parks 2 years ago). People with disabilities just need a little extra help, I don't understand Disney.
@johnp139
@johnp139 2 күн бұрын
Maybe he should just not go there in the first place!!!!
@LCLand
@LCLand 23 сағат бұрын
@@johnp139I hope you never have to find out the hard way how cruel and ungracious your comment is
@matthewmorin7016
@matthewmorin7016 5 күн бұрын
I'm with you on this. Who is this system for, if not the woman in the video? Not every line meets ADA/ABA requirements at Disney. They are going to have a bigger mess on their hands soon if they don't get a handle on this.
@DisMindy5767
@DisMindy5767 4 күн бұрын
That young lady should not have to go wait on her own while he party waits in line. She clearly needs someone to assist her at all times. "Othering" indeed.
@TheRandompaint
@TheRandompaint 3 күн бұрын
She would rather just skip the lines. What's the issue with someone waiting in line and her joining them?
@ogar0524
@ogar0524 5 күн бұрын
The whole disabled system is broken. A coworker of mine was able to get disabled tickets for his family because one of his kids has anxiety and doesn’t like crowds.
@dianachavez6277
@dianachavez6277 3 күн бұрын
Then why are they taking him to a very very very crowded place. Seems cruel to me. Oh wait because the kid is their ticket to front of the line. See the example of why they need to make changes. Abuse.
@adamp2384
@adamp2384 3 күн бұрын
It’s one thing to fake anxitey to get a pass like that but for the people with serious issues with anxiety combined with other disorders it is unbearable, the medicines you take to get it back in control in stressful “emergency” situations can turn you into a pile of Jelly and no one should have to be comatose to go through a ride, that pass for people in those situations means you don’t have to take the “emergency” medicines and can actually be present and. Enjoy the park, that is why I believe medical documentation should be necessary because lots of disabilities are hidden
@Furinastan
@Furinastan Күн бұрын
i get anxiety in larger crowds. I got das for this before i was dignoised with autism. I still love going to disney, accomidations make it better for me. To feel comfortable and not get overstimulated. Also haft to ask if they got it after the changes or not? I probably wouldnt quilafy now even though i have autism, adhd, sensory processing disorder, and anxiety.
@VixenLovelove
@VixenLovelove 5 күн бұрын
This is disgusting! I hope we see more videos like this exposing Disney’s heartless and greedy attitude. Implement universal’s disability system or everyone else will just go to universal! I’ve been a long time Disney goer and it was a wonderful clean and safe place for a disabled guest like myself. Not anymore. I swear I have never faced nearly as much ableism in my life than I have since they announced changes to Das. Disney treats us like garbage and now tons of Disney fans have followed their lead and jumped on disabled Disney fans like myself and others. If I had a nickel for everytime someone has said “wait in line with the rest of us if you want equality so bad”, “buy genie+”, or the big one “stay home”. It’s appalling! Thank god universal doesn’t treat us like shit.
@jukesy1992
@jukesy1992 5 күн бұрын
Agreed. Now, I'm a totally blind person, so whilst yes I can wait in a line, I'd end up starting to rock and sometimes not actually knowing I'm doing this. It can be distracting for sighted people if they see this. Not only that, but audio loops in queues are around 40 minutes to an hour, so if ou've got longer than that inline you will be stuck hearing the same audio loop. A sighted person has many more visual details they can look at.
@annien.1727
@annien.1727 4 күн бұрын
😡💢STFU ALREADY!!! Just STOP comparing Disney to freaking Universal already! I'm SO sick to death of this! STOP blaming Disney for everything, damn it! This is so STUPID!!! I may be a Disney fan myself, but I NEVER jump on disabled Disney fans like you and others! Disney DOESN'T have a heartless and greedy attitude at all!!!! BOB IGER DOES!!! He's the ONE with the heartless and greedy attitude here, NOT Disney! And you're NOT going to Universal, pal! You're GOING back to Disney because my friends and I are going to CHANGE Disney for the better!
@mondenkindqueen
@mondenkindqueen Күн бұрын
I work in retail and under ADA I can’t even ask what disabilities a customer might have. Yet Disney gets to ask highly invasive questions about it?
@LCLand
@LCLand 23 сағат бұрын
And then deny them! Seems pathological
@april3084
@april3084 18 сағат бұрын
It’s illegal
@JLWhiteHorse
@JLWhiteHorse 5 күн бұрын
In 2018 I took my parents. My dad has trouble walking/standing for long periods of time, and we asked about what their policies were. None of the cast members seemed to really know. Guest relations would give one set of instructions, then those at the attractions would say something else. Most didn't have a clue as to what to say. We took it in stride, but it was a bit frustrating. Some cast members were very accommodating, though, and when they saw him slowly making his way forward with a cane, invited him to be a "special guest" that took us through the FastPass lane.
@That_Service_Dog_Show
@That_Service_Dog_Show 5 күн бұрын
Even before this recent DAS update, anyone with these issues would have been told to use a wheelchair. It's been put in place for years that DAS was no longer for any mobility disabilities. It would be a disability that is adjacent to the mobility issues that would qualify the individual. It was on their DAS page for years. Which is why when I went last year, and the year before, it was my other disabilities that were considered. Never the fact that I was in a powerchair.
@JLWhiteHorse
@JLWhiteHorse 5 күн бұрын
@@That_Service_Dog_Show Interesting. Yeah, we didn't really push. Before going, I went on their website and read that they had a system in place for those who couldn't stand in lines due to physical problems and to go to guest services upon arrival. Maybe this wasn't DAS, but another service? Anyway, we did what the website instructed and guest services gave us a special map and other instructions, which we followed when going to the rides only to get confused looks from cast members. Apparently there was some breakdown in communication but we didn't fight it.
@Meowrose3
@Meowrose3 Күн бұрын
I’m not going try and compare levels of disability here, but I went to Disneyland last fall with my senior mother. I am minorly disabled. i called DAS in advance, per instructions, got five words in and the person said, “ok, granted, you’re good to go!” Th is going on with Disney???
@kevindiossi
@kevindiossi 4 күн бұрын
Just to be very clear. Disney would like these lovely people to show up to their theme park with their family and friends…then Disney is asking them to have their family and friends abandon them while they wait in line for them. Then, text/call them to come back to the ride and meet them before they get one. What a joke. Oh, but then you have an option to pay for normal Lightning Lane instead? Sorry, but I really REALLY hope this gets addressed as soon as possible.
@nataliyalalor4915
@nataliyalalor4915 4 күн бұрын
The worst part is that Disney isn’t the only one. Other parks like Knotts Berry Farm are also switching to separating families to try and solve the problem of people abusing DAS.
@13ishAbbie
@13ishAbbie 4 күн бұрын
DAS accommodation is NOT line cutting. You have to wait the same amount of time, just more comfortably, maybe in the shade with a beverage. Please remember a disabled person does not have the stamina of a fully able bodied person. I know my daughter would prefer to be a fully able body person, but she’s not. We do the best we can. We don’t go from rope drop till close. We’re lucky to ride three rides and that’s with using DAS.
@cormoran2303
@cormoran2303 5 күн бұрын
Big difference from when my brother went as a kid. I mean how much worse do you have to get? Roll up in a gurney with a heart monitor beeping? A coffin and a mortician?!?
@johnp139
@johnp139 2 күн бұрын
Too many people were taking advantage of this!!!
@westfield90
@westfield90 5 күн бұрын
I feel so sorry for her. I wish her everything.
@amandaamundson8942
@amandaamundson8942 7 сағат бұрын
My husband and I went to Disney World for our honeymoon in 2021. I used the DAS Pass and we had a bit of a problem using it on our first day at Epcot. Long story short after talking to many cast members i was able to use the pass. I think their biggest problem was even through I have cerebral palsy, I can walk & I do have a walker/wheelchair. After a long discussion, we reserved a time to come back to the ride and that worked out just fine for us. If you do not have to legally disclose a disability on a job application, then what gives Disney to right to judge on the type of disability you have!!! It’s shameful that people have aboused this system to help people with disabilities enjoy Disney just like anyone else.
@andresbruh1402
@andresbruh1402 5 күн бұрын
This is absolutely disgusting, Disney is monstruos for doing this and I know they’re not even ashamed and won’t be.
@elainehill5931
@elainehill5931 5 күн бұрын
There are people who have said they were told by these interviewers they shouldn’t go to Disney. I think one of them had PTSD.
@Roadent1241
@Roadent1241 4 күн бұрын
Yeah, we're usually told stuff like that. We want to enjoy life. They hate being reminded we exist and want us to stay cooped up at home.
@adamp2384
@adamp2384 3 күн бұрын
@@Roadent1241exactly or you get told there are so many drugs to help you, not knowing a lot of the more powerful drugs you take in “emergency” situations either knock you out flat or turn you to a pile of jelly to where you can’t experience anything
@johnp139
@johnp139 2 күн бұрын
Which is extremely VALID!!!!
@ArcaneZippity
@ArcaneZippity 5 күн бұрын
Thanks for bringing a greater spotlight to this situation and topic... While it's understandable that a company like Disney wants to avoid abuse of a system they are implementing, it is quite clear that a lawyer probably made up a highly complex set of situational rules and guidelines for this system... That is probably so complex and convoluted that the folks implementing the system on all levels are probably not on the same page, and while on the surface it seems like they are doing this good thing, it is in fact not so bright and shiny as advertised under its surface... I hope that video goes internet viral and shames Disney in some way... Because it sounds like they need to rethink that whole system...
@brendanolauson7409
@brendanolauson7409 5 күн бұрын
Well I’d let her pass me in line if Disney isn’t going to help her out
@lorenclarke7815
@lorenclarke7815 5 күн бұрын
I wonder if Disney denies Make A Wish wish recipients DAS.
@juansotelo3996
@juansotelo3996 5 күн бұрын
A father asked disney to put a spiderman image in his 4 years old sons grave, guess what disney said
@Mike__B
@Mike__B 5 күн бұрын
@@juansotelo3996 Lets not forget about how the cemetery is the one who denied the father's wish to put Spiderman on his son's grave without getting a right to use by the owners. They're the ones who worried about Disney suing them.
@VixenLovelove
@VixenLovelove 5 күн бұрын
Usually make a wish pays for everything NOT Disney.
@cathyy7130
@cathyy7130 4 күн бұрын
Make a Wish Families are usually given VIP status, which means they don't need DAS, they go to the front of the line regardless of wait times.
@sassy7766
@sassy7766 4 күн бұрын
Thanks for covering this.
@lindalochirco2921
@lindalochirco2921 7 сағат бұрын
Disney is lining themselves up for lawsuits. And I'm totally okay with that.
@stormgirl09
@stormgirl09 5 күн бұрын
She is "severely" disabled! What did they even mean by that?? Someone who is completely paralyzed or in a vegetative state?? I doubt someone who is completely paralyzed isn't getting on rides!! Ooof🤦‍♀️
@Mike__B
@Mike__B 5 күн бұрын
I don't know, I feel like there were more questions than answers by this video.
@wookieeMan06
@wookieeMan06 5 күн бұрын
@@Mike__B there does seem to be holes in her story
@blockmasterscott
@blockmasterscott 5 күн бұрын
@@wookieeMan06I was wondering about that too. To be fair though, it’s like this in every case, both parties alter the facts to fit their side of the story.
@whistlingsage9817
@whistlingsage9817 5 күн бұрын
The people who control Disney, for their purposes, redefined the word "disabled". Disney considers neurodivergency a bigger handicap than physical disability, and their new policy reflects this.
@That_Service_Dog_Show
@That_Service_Dog_Show 5 күн бұрын
@@whistlingsage9817 And even then, there are MANY with autism and PTSD who are still being denied. On the disabled forums and pages, it is a common vent several days where people will inform those who are looking to do a trip what to expect. The invasive questions, only to be denied.
@victoriamahon3765
@victoriamahon3765 Күн бұрын
They’ve already lost our business we’re going elsewhere on vacation this year. I have stomach problems and without the DASI will not be able to do it. We’re currently booking another vacation for September somewhere else, until they roll this back I’m not coming back. Looking at Vegas or a non-Disney cruise.
@mikalmos369
@mikalmos369 Күн бұрын
Wow. I was a cast member at Disney World for 3 years in the early 2000s and I cannot fathom that they are doing this. It is completely antithetical to how I was trained by them. My guess is that Disney will make it very public gesture for this particular guest but will continue to do the same crap to everyone else. In recent years I became disabled and also a disability Advocate and I can tell you that the procedure that they put them through and then making them sign something that they won't file a lawsuit etcetera well I'm pretty sure it's illegal in violation of Title II of the ADA. I'm still astonished as Disney of old this would have been unthinkable. Seriously what the hell Disney? What skin off of your ass is this? The vast majority of your guests now think you're cruel and heartless. That can't be good for your stock prices and considering that's all you seem to care about nowadays I would think you would do something different.
@dazblue5515
@dazblue5515 4 күн бұрын
Bless her, offering to pay for a service when she really shouldn't have to - I know people have been taking advantage of the service, but she obviously qualifies for DAS!
@rhiannon7163
@rhiannon7163 5 күн бұрын
My daughter has spina bifida and uses a wheelchair. We went to disney world in 2012 when she was 4 and they were very helpful and inclusive. We went to disneyland in 2018 and got a fast pass which did not seem to cut down our wait time at all and one swap where we only had to wait in line once for soaring and took tirns waiting with her because we wwre afraid the ride wasnt safe enough for her.
@bncsmom1
@bncsmom1 4 күн бұрын
Soarin' is perfectly safe for her. There's a special belt that you put on the smaller children which prevents them from slipping out of the seat. As for Disneyland, you need to go to the CM at the entrance of each ride and ask where the wheelchair entrance is. There isn't a wait cutdown unless you buy Genie+. There is no such thing as skipping the line or cutting it at Disney Parks, outside of Genie+. Get that out of your head now. It's not now nor ever was how DAS worked! How it works is you get a return time, either through the DAS app or from the CM, if the queue itself isn't wheelchair accessible already. You wait outside the queue until your return time comes and then you go to where the CM told you to go to finish waiting and board the ride vehicle.
@rhiannon7163
@rhiannon7163 4 күн бұрын
@bncsmom1 when we were at Disney World in 2012 every cast member immediately brought us to the exit and had us board next. Once I transferred her, they even parked her wheelchair and brought it back to us when our ride was finished. This was prior to genie+ and very few people were allowed this privilege. I heard that people started renting locals in wheelchairs and that was the reason why they discontinued the Das pass.
@comeonman9138
@comeonman9138 4 күн бұрын
The optics on this are awful. As a Universal pass holder who doesn’t visit Disney, I just have to ask; is Disney intentionally trying to kill itself???
@foxhound34
@foxhound34 4 күн бұрын
People seem to be conflating Federal ADA with Disney's DAS. Disney is ADA compliant and does not need to even offer DAS if it chose not to.
@biorum
@biorum 3 күн бұрын
HIPAA auditors where are you? Need to check the new DAS policy.
@julianvega2677
@julianvega2677 4 күн бұрын
My total guess here is that she seems smart. Not significantly cognitively impaired, at least. They might be trying to limit das to people who lack appropriate social judgement due to significant cognitive impairment. In asd, you can have tantrums and elopement behaviors in which you can't reason with the person. Though, i think PTSD can have the same result due to emotional impairment without cognitive impairment. Just as one example i can think of. I have to agree that requiring people with disabilities to be isolated in a theme park is a discrimination. Isolating people with disabilities is cliche discrimination.
@MrMaxRebos
@MrMaxRebos 5 күн бұрын
Unfortunately too many people scammed the system and that ruined it for people who really need it.
@batshtcrazy5293
@batshtcrazy5293 2 күн бұрын
Because a few people abused the wheelchair system, now anyone with GENUINE disabilities is treated like dirt. And sadly, some of the guests, (namely Disney Adults) think this is great. People have become so cold hearted and cruel. I can no longer go to Disney, because even though I have visible physical disabilities, I was told to rent a $70 wheelchair and get over it. Yet I watched people with supposed "Autism or PTSD" have no issues at all getting a pass. So...if I'm MENTALLY ill, I can have a pass. If I can barely walk or breath, no go. Yeah. Nice. Thanks. But no...taking my money and family elsewhere.
@lindalochirco2921
@lindalochirco2921 7 сағат бұрын
Agree totally
@lily-hk1gk
@lily-hk1gk Күн бұрын
at Tokyo disney, a whole group with a disabled person can wait together.
@toddreed5799
@toddreed5799 3 күн бұрын
Perhaps someone here who has gone through a DAS interview with a cast member can shed some light on this, but I'm extremely curious to know whether or not the person(s) conducting the interview have any medical and/or psychological training to support their decisions. And I don't mean someone who took an 8 hour "on-the-job" training class on "how to recognize severe physical and/or cognitive disabilities". I mean someone with an actual degree. Otherwise the decisions on who is granted access to DAS is purely subjective. One "cast member" may make a determination to grant DAS access in a given situation, but a different cast member may have a different opinion and deny. If I had to guess, I would say they aren't using anybody with actual schooling, which is why they are making people sign waivers stating they won't sue if they are denied access. For the record, I'm not someone who needs access to DAS, but I am someone who has seen the increased abuse of the system over the years, which is what led Disney to making these changes. I say shame on Disney for taking the "cop out" route with the sweeping changes, denying access to people who legitimately need the service, then telling them they are more than welcome to "pay for lightning lane" when what they should have done is crack down on the people abusing the system. We can lay blame on the people who abused the system, because they certainly deserve part of the blame, but we can also blame Disney for turning a blind eye to the abuse. Kudos to that young woman for her idea, but what Disney should really offer is a free system where the decisions are made by a third party of trained individuals with no affiliation to Disney.
@TheRandompaint
@TheRandompaint 3 күн бұрын
Why couldn't they let them wait out of line and send a notification when it's their turn?
@sarastubblefield2191
@sarastubblefield2191 3 күн бұрын
That’s essentially what DAS is. You make a ‘reservation’ for the ride, then wait however long the current line is. Once that time has passed, you can enter through the lightning lane by scanning your magic band.
@TheRandompaint
@TheRandompaint 3 күн бұрын
@@sarastubblefield2191 so the issue was that she didn't qualify for it? Did they not have eyes?!
@sebastiantrias1529
@sebastiantrias1529 5 күн бұрын
I know how it goes, I know a relative of mine who has autism, and they’re not giving him the needs he got before the policy change.
@waytoson
@waytoson 4 күн бұрын
"Wait alone" what if the line is a 2 hour line?
@TheNerdistheWord
@TheNerdistheWord 3 күн бұрын
This is a money grab pain and simple
@louiefrancuz3282
@louiefrancuz3282 5 күн бұрын
Disney doesn't need goodwill anymore, it needs cash.
@LuvMyCardiKids
@LuvMyCardiKids Күн бұрын
Why you need it? They’re not allowed to ask that! That’s a law suit just making you interview.
@ALM0214
@ALM0214 5 күн бұрын
I worked attractions at Disneyland from '07-'13. People have always negatively taken advantage of the GAC or DAC or whatever they call it now. The difference is now it's costing Disney money. As for this woman's complaint, ADA requires accommodations so that everyone has access. The queues on newer attractions are wide enough for wheelchairs to fit, but may have alternate loading options. Older attractions have alternate entrances, which may or may not have a wait. I dont know the nature of this woman's disabilty, but the cast members gave her the option of waiting outside or in a more comfortable area while the rest of her group waited in the queue. The GAC/DAC has always had this option. It was never meant to get people on the attractions without waiting.
@johnpaullennon1199
@johnpaullennon1199 5 күн бұрын
Tickets and yearly passes etc. should be cheaper for disabled people on ssdi. Second every other park gives you a sign in sheet or RFID wristband so you can get checked in and come back for immediate boarding X amount of time later on. The reason for this is because as a disabled person you will only be able to hit a certain amount of rides in the time you have. You slow your party down I know I have. Normal ppl can walk faster and don't have to stop or rest as often. Sounds like Dizknee is trying to lump fast pass in with disability accommodations and it roundly sux. Get rid of this in house judge and have paperwork for their home drs.
@grbenway
@grbenway 4 күн бұрын
This type of system you mention is the very reason the new system is in place. people were selling their services as "disabled tour guides"
@hmcglone4325
@hmcglone4325 3 күн бұрын
It stinks..Too many people abused the system..they need to go back to fast pass
@short72hp1
@short72hp1 5 күн бұрын
It's obvious that Disneyland does not care about people like this because they don't have enough money make it worth their time to care
@johnp139
@johnp139 2 күн бұрын
And why should they?
@kbgreen23
@kbgreen23 3 күн бұрын
This is a hard one. Disney was happy to use the old system, but people are abusing it. after my Kidney transplant, I did use the das system and I can honestly say people were abusing it too. The new systems only been around about three weeks. I’m sure Disney is going to be making some changes the line between discourage people who don’t really need it and allowing the people who use it who need it isn’t going to be perfect.
@Kas-tle
@Kas-tle Күн бұрын
I would much rather the girl in this video be allowed to use it even if it means some people who don't need it will also get in.
@zealoussteven
@zealoussteven 13 сағат бұрын
Had a similar experience at Universal last year too. I am on the spectrum and was granted a pass while my friend with severe cerebral palsy was not. This is a trend going on throughout the parks. Although now Uni found a looophole to require paperwork so it takes ages to get an access pass now. Sad.
@ryantessier4750
@ryantessier4750 9 сағат бұрын
There should be no charge for her
@Tinkerellastreasuretrunk
@Tinkerellastreasuretrunk 5 күн бұрын
I’ve seen this in the original posting. Sad but if you notice she said she still made the purchase anyway. And Disney got her money so I’m sure Disney won’t not care at this point. So why do that and spend the money. It’s not like they are gonna refund her.
@That_Service_Dog_Show
@That_Service_Dog_Show 5 күн бұрын
Not to mention, they have your money for your non-refundable, non-transferable tickets anyway before you even attempt to get a DAS. So you have to play Russian Roulette, by the tickets, and hope you qualify if you know you need it. Pray that Disney agrees with you, on a disability that they aren't the ones living with on a daily basis.
@NBCJUGGALO
@NBCJUGGALO 3 күн бұрын
Why do i have to promise not to sue.ill interview but i can't promise that and 2ndly how can they uphold that
@xDeathMarinex
@xDeathMarinex 4 күн бұрын
People abuse the DAS because they let the lines get ridiculously long. They need to shorten the lines
@batshtcrazy5293
@batshtcrazy5293 2 күн бұрын
And it's people like YOU who have made it impossible for genuinely disabled people to have DAS. You complained about those FEW others who abused it. And so they penalized ALL of us.
@xzy89c
@xzy89c 5 күн бұрын
Too much abuse led to this. The pendulum swings too far one way and to fix it, too far the other way.
@xzy89c
@xzy89c 4 күн бұрын
@user-li2yv5je5e how, don't know enough about this topic. Have not been to Disney in years. When I did it was 2000s and people abused it. Got so tired of people who were obese using a scooter all overpark. Obesity is not a disability. Move more eat less.
@Molbyone
@Molbyone 3 күн бұрын
They’re just going to end up removing DAS altogether
@simplyshawnie4652
@simplyshawnie4652 5 күн бұрын
We just gotta start walking away from these companies. The movies the parks the merchandise.... hit their pockets and they will reach out to you
@ThemeParkAngel
@ThemeParkAngel 3 күн бұрын
Juat a few notes. - max party size is 4 including yourself. Youre only allowing to bring more if they are immediate family. Relationships and friendships dont qualify - the return to queue requires you to get in line and look for a CM if/when you need to get out of line. Most lines dont have easy to reach points where you could get out of line and the one's that do, dont have staff available in the line to speak to them - they are not making one time exceptions like Universal does. Six Flags has the same policy as Universal but not the exceptions. Six Flags is being sued as a result for now having that exception. Either way love the podcast. Keep up the great work
@freemonk3
@freemonk3 4 күн бұрын
Our last trip to Disney World was in April 2022. Our son has ASD (Autistic Spectrum Disorder), and we applied for DAS online. It was so easy to apply for. Video chat meeting with a cast member, we told the cast member that he has ASD. We had paperwork from doctors and school ready to present, but they told us they didn't need any of that. All they needed was a picture of our son, and what rides we wanted to pre-book for our two week vacation. It was all done and dusted in about 10-15 minutes. Stating that he had ASD was more than enough to get a DAS pass for him. That DAS for our son was so integral to his enjoyment of his holiday (and our whole family as well). They'd be no way he'd be able to stay in line for more than 20-30 minutes with small cramped areas, loud noises, different smells, screaming/crying kids etc without him having to leave the queue in tears and us having to leave the park to calm him down. For example, when we spend out day at Universal, we started to queue for Hagrids (which wasn't a Express Pass option), and within 10-15 minutes he was overwhelmed, upset and my wife had to take him out of the ride). With the DAS pass, he was able to get on rides within minutes, skip the queue and enjoy the rides he wanted to do. In between we could go somewhere quiet, or go eat. If things were getting too much for him, we could book something for much later on and leave the park and come back later. It gave us so much flexibility to meet his needs, it was wonderful. With the changes that have happened with DAS applications now, I don't even think that he'd qualify now for what he had last time. We may get the standby line option, but having to split a family up (one to stand in line and one to look after my son until it's time), is not helping at all, especially for when he gets upset it can be parent dependent on who he wants to be with him. If you are spending all of that money at Disney and you have a disability, Disney should be bending over backwards to help those in need. To me, it just seems like it's another way for Disney to make money on Genie+ / LL tickets when they turn down DAS applications and families have no other option but to buy those expensive services. That's why when we go to Orlando next year, we are skipping Disney all together. I'm not risking purchasing a Disney package holiday, or even Disney tickets to then find out we can't get DAS for my son. Coming from the UK, it would be a £10-£15k ($12-$17k) gamble for us, and without a DAS pass, it wouldn't be worth it. Instead we are going with Universal instead, who offer a much more convenient way of applying (through a third party) and are more open to all disabilities.
@ceresmary206
@ceresmary206 20 сағат бұрын
As an "elder" in the disabled community who fought damn hard for 504 and ADA, I am appalled at the lack of "teeth" that disability rights Does NOT handle situations like this (or even housing) and how tone deaf (agreed with Mio on Disney's lack of humanity towards the disabled population) Disney has become. Disability access to: a park, to a restaurant, to a event, or even a store should not require your SSDI application to "prove eligible" as a disabled person. I get how much graft of taking advantage goes on (believe me), of people trying to get extra services that should be restricted to us, and in this case: Choo-Choo is disabled, end of sentence. She does not need separate but equal treatment (removing her from her group), she should NOT be 'required' to pay extra to have the equal "services" afforded to the general public. If anything, Disney should out of their way to accommodate her, her group and others to make SURE she and others a good time. After all, feeling separate is enough in the "mundane" world where discrimination is rampant (and the alarming trend of thinking that humans should no longer be hired at Disney Corp to work with their guests, further isolating especially "special needs" folks regardless of their disability, with automated animated cell phone services as "just good enough"). Pitting the disabled against one another ( ie, who is more disabled) to receive services is absolutely shameful. The DAS could easily be taken care of by having cast members working as ambassadors to handle sensitive cases (think the history of Make A Wish). Now, this is hell.
@aurorauplinks
@aurorauplinks 2 күн бұрын
Florida and California could just outlaw lines that expect people to stand longer then 10 minutes and require virtual cueing and phone updates to give people accurate times to get there in time.
@andrewmumford2431
@andrewmumford2431 5 күн бұрын
Thanks guys this is a good one. And Jonas your right easy home run
@darknagaadventures7884
@darknagaadventures7884 3 күн бұрын
This appears to be an overcorrection due to a pattern of abuse. I am sure it will swing the other way, but when?
@jonathan9995_
@jonathan9995_ 5 күн бұрын
Surely the fifth key of inclusion should apply to guests as much as it does to cast members. Care and compassion has been replaced by the monetisation of disability.
@JourneyingBard
@JourneyingBard 3 күн бұрын
This post and the tweet/tiktok that inspired it make me very wary. My family is planning for a Disney trip, but the main reason we haven’t pinned down specifics or dates is because I haven’t been able to get a clear answer out of Disney about accessibility. My wheelchair shouldn’t be an issue, except it’s over 400lbs because of the hydroids systems it uses. I travel with an aide due to neurological issues, including blackouts, but I have to pay their full cost and extras for them to be with me. They won’t answer questions about lines or shelter spots at all and now I think I know why. I’m not asking for special treatment, I don’t think I should jump to the head of every line just because I have health issues. I would like to revisit my oldest childhood memory, and add the joy and fun of introducing loved ones to the parks safely. Which if something doesn’t change, won’t be possible. I’ll be watching here along with my other sources for more information. Thank you for sharing this.
@carlosalfredolopezr.1709
@carlosalfredolopezr.1709 2 күн бұрын
This is simply shameful.
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