It was so good to see how cool and creative the Warhammer hobby is:) for years I've just been playing loads of really poorly designed games by games workshop. Now I can truly embrace my Warhammer.

Doubling down on the 'warhammer hobby' was brilliant! I'll have to give some of these a try. Thx for the recs.

I was really hoping Malifaux and Infinity would have been featured as they really deserve so much more attention then they get, but I’ve never seen that Batman game so that’s certainly informative

In the same way Carnivale starter sets are worthy of praise, Battletech starter sets work the same way. A very cheap small tester, and a full game box with everything 2 players need to play a full game. And the big box costs less than a single Land Raider or plain Primaris transport.

This is a Warhammer, This is a Warhammer....... EVERYTHING IS WARHAMMER *Art attack theme tune blares*

I went into this expecting things like Space Crusade or Dungeonquest but instead had a big laugh. You're the bestest Warhammer Hobbyist ever! :D

Mistress! I applaud you. Send your detractors to the salt mines, to dig until they find the copuim they so obviously crave! Apart from that, I almost got a Christmassy feeling from your video, and your energy is great!

Thank you Discourse for making my Warhammer hobby even easier to participate in!

Me, pulling out my digimon deck "Hello fellow MTG players"

" This temple of discord is the work of Mad discourse!" -Unknown vandal

I think the variety of games is fantastic within the 'Warhammer hobby'. I'm so lucky to be a 'Warhammer hobbyist' 😏

Wow, I didn't know there where this many games in the warhammer hobby 😋 Love this video 😍

Hah! When I saw the thumbnail I thought this was going to be about Mordheim, Inquisitor and all the other more obscure Games Workshop specialist games. After watching this, I have to say that the title is pure comedy gold. I bet no one has any objections to this, since it is about the Warhammer hobby, RIGHT?

If you like to Warhammer World War Two. Bolt Action is Warhammer adjacent and you can use the same faction models to Warhammer the more realistic Chain of Command! Tonnes of Lore in the history section of your local library or online!

I like Warhammer chess game, basically you get two factions with two different paint jobs trying to fight in a mirror match. Each character on your field has different movement and attack capabilities. The goal is to either trap or murder your opponents leader while defending your own. There are also special stratagems and mechanics you can perform which I mostly don't remember the names of. The price range is all over the place from free to however much money your willing to throw.

Such a diverse hobby! I've been playing Battletech warhammer and Alpha Strike warhammer in the last year. The cool thing is, that those use the same minis! Just have 2 base rulebooks and your army has free rules online for both games. How neat is that? I've more recently started investigating Steel Rift warhammer too. Written by that dude Ash Barker who does videos on super diverse warhammer battlereports on his own channel, called something like Guerilla Miniature Games warhammer. I've ordered some decently priced, customisable Steel Rift warhammer models from Death Ray Designs warhammer too! Thanks warhammer, for this diverse hobby!

Personally i would add to this list Warhammer Kings of War: Armada. Stared playing recently and the rules are bunch of fun. Ships themselves have a room for improvements but they are still pretty designs

My favorite part was when The Emperor said "it's Warhammin' time" and then Warhammed Horus.

A really good game with feudal Japan theme is a miniatures game called shadows of brimstone forbidden fortress, they also have a weird west theme, like lovecraft in the old west, it’s also co op, solo, hard plastic models that you build

I love how you're doing it, using the warhammer as the warhammer hobby :D

Fantasy Flight should think about acquiring miniature rights to SWTOR (Star Wars: The Old Republic). It's Star Wars thousands of years in the past when the Sith Empire existed. There is also a Republic stand-in as well. The great thing about it is there is a lot of creative liberty there and Bioware has already built up a ton of material to use for a wargame.

This is vaguely reminiscent of how my parents refer to different "Nintendos."

This episode get's 10/10 for screwing with the KZfaq algorithm.

"So I'm a warhammer hobbyst?" Discourse behind me with a gun, "always been"

For anyone wanting something similar to old Warhammer fantasy, I'd highly recommend Oathmark, it has an easy set of rules to follow and uses square blocks of infantry (which isn't popular in gaming anymore). The upside is you can use whatever races you want in your army, there's a narrative way you build your "kingdom" which includes various ways of having whatever you want, want an army of humans and orcs? Want an army of dwarves, elves and Goblins? You can make anything.

Cannot wait for a vid about Warmachine/Hordes. By far my favourite "warhammer hobby" game

Just played Warhammer Star Wars with my son. Modified unit activation to follow bolt action method: random draw of activation tokens from a beanie. Worked like a charm.

To be honest, I think many of us have seen those Warhammer games before, though not in a Warhammer store for some reason I can’t fathom.

Really enjoying Warhammer Core Space. A great Warhammer cyberpunk skirmish that can be played solo, co op or competitively. Even has rules to give your fave minis rules

I painted the 'minis' that come with Last Night On Earth, and it was "refreshing" to paint something not fantasy or sci-fi!

I love the Warhammer game infinity. They kindly supply the rules and app army builder for free.

Yep my friend group dragged me into Wasteland warfare kicking and screaming

Star Wars Legion, Fallout Wasteland Warfare, and the Batman Miniatures Game look like they're right up my alley. I'm an Empire fan, an Enclave fan, and I've been a Batman fan ever since I was a kid.

I see Discourse has embraced killing GW's trademark 🤣

This is a great bit coming off of your last video.

I really wasn't a fan of the "Star Wars: Legion" game play rules, buuuuut... the new "Star Wars: Shatterpoint" looks WAAAAYYY more my cup of tea, and the models look fire! From what I've seen, it looks like it's going to be close to "Marvel Crisis Protocol "

I've been wanting to get into the warhammer hobby for so long. The only warhammer I've played so far is the warhammer that my friend and I made up using D&D minis. I'm gonna have to give some of these warhammers a try.

Great video! Thanks for putting this together and sharing!

Thanks for mentioning the Batman Miniature Game. It's glad to see some love on this game. Hope to see your next battle report!

I'd love to hear your thoughts on Wyrd (Malifaux), Corvus Belli (Infinity), Parabellum (Conquest) and Mantic (Deadzone). Also the half-warhammer or warhammer-adjacent games like Godtear or Blood Rage.

I have both the Carnevale Starter Sets, various Strigoi (the vampires) sets - I spent hours painting the Romani Caravan and lost them in a house move. The mini's are amazing (and produced in the UK) and the artwork in the books stunning. Plus TT combat support it with reasonably priced Streets of Venice MDF buildings and resin scatter terrain and new minis every month or so. These were the most amazing game minis I had come across until I picked up Bushido earlier this year. Made a 2x2 board and spent about £100 on resin to make some scenery that thematically matches the minis. And I only bought the starter set. Currently working on a GCPS army as part of Black Jack Legacy's Slow Grow, after that I need to finish some GW stuff but I also have the Moonstone Starter which has some fun characters. Plans for next year are a Justice League Dark (from the Batman Mini sister game) House of Mystery Diorama and see if can paint more than I buy. Would be easier if I had anyone to play with but no gamers around as far as I can tell, even the the Uni down the road is one of the contributors to 7TV!

You forgot to mention the big assed Cthulhu beast that shows up with the fish-heads.

It wasnt until number 3 that i got the hint "warhammer games" from the explanation of a previous video XD. a/e good video. most of em were already discussed on previous video's. But it's nice to get a list with commentary.

That 5 parsecs game looks interesting. And I really want to thank you for that running joke / reference to your previous video. I've been in a depressed mood lately and you cheered me up a bit with that.

You're Warhammer, you're Warhammer, he's Warhammer, I'M WARHAMMER!!! Are there any other "WARHAMMERS" I should know about?!

I would love to see you do a Batman play through video. Whether you want to wear an appropriate costume for it I’ll leave up to you 😂

I've been interested in World Warhammer 2 themed games like those from Bolt Action, set 21 years after the end of World Warhammer 1 (it used to be called The Great Warhammer until 1939 when World Warhammer 2 broke out). I've bought some of their minis to build and paint and they are very posable hard plastic with plenty of sprue options.

I love where you've gone with this video and a great way to twist the algorithm. Well played. 😆

your green screen makes your eyes turn purple when you zoom in it is so awesome

I thought this was about old lost GW games; Hero Quest, Advanced Hero Quest, Talisman, Space Crusade, Epic, and Adeptus Titanicus. Hero Quest did get a remake via kickstarted.

To think, all these years I've only been playing Warhammer Warhammer when I could have been playing all these other Warhammers? Thank you discourse! 😃

Thank you for showcasing these games! Definitely getting 5 Parsecs from Home and checking out the Carnevale light starter set. :D

Congratulations for getting sponsored by the Mi-Go... I mean, "Brilliant"... ;p The spellcaster units in Bushido look really cool. The one with the swirling vaporous faces circling around them is particularly gnarly.

When I first saw this I thought you were going to wheel out Talisman, Chainsaw Warrior or Golden Heroes 🤣

I saw this video about six months ago and with it I discovered Carvenale. I've been OBSESSED with the game ever since, just as I was with Warhammer Fantasy when I was 12. I love every gang and making new scenery to make spectacular new plays (or maybe not so much because I mainly play doctors and they are more static than sh*t) I wanted to thank you for the recommendation and, above all, for giving your videos such accurately descriptive titles that it took me half a year to find this one again.

Thanks, Discourse. I just bought 5 Parsecs from Home. Looking forward to trying it!

Love that you're embracing the true spirit of the warhammer hobby :) keep 'em coming! I actually find these recommendation videos super useful for locking down games to try :) so thank you for that too

It took me 30 years to finally leave GW and really appreciate everything out there. Now into Konflikt '47, Battletech, Dystopian Wars, Black and Cruel Seas, SW Armda, Blood Red Skies etc Next stop Carnevale after first discovering TTCombat's Streets of Venice terrain range. Will still play Aeronautica and Titanicus, some KT/Necromunda but buy no more new stuff. Thanks for many new ideas in this video! I left a sub. Fallout looks nice...

As you know you did get me into Carnevale this year as well ;) Love it. It is THE most complete starter set I've seen for a warga... eh... I mean warhammer game. I'm not one of those who already have tons of terrain laying around - getting it in the starter box for a reasonable price was huge for me. I do loooove the look of the Bushido minis, but it is slightly to pricy for me, the starter set is more expensive then Carnevale and does not get me a board and terrain sadly...

I reckon the tipping point of generocide might be close. If you try to describe table top wargaming outside the hobby, peoples faces look blank. Then say ‘warhammer’ and their faces light up in understanding.

Would you happen to know a good primer video for 5 parsecs from home? The idea of using warhammer models and using the rules to play is pretty awesome sounding.

This is excellent list of recommendations. It's definetly fine to call it Warhammer to get a lot of these close minded or fans who don't know much up open their horizons to better stuff . I also highly highly recommend: forbidden Psalm, last war, and frostgrave

Well... I guess I better finish writing that Five Parsec from Home video I've been working on. I have a feeling that awesome game will thankfully get some google searches thanks to you. 😁

My favorite Warhammer hobby games are Song of Blades and Heroes, 7TV2 and Space Weirdos, all easy fun skirmish games

Carnival, No, This one is one of the best small skirmish levels out there. I've got a crew of all of them- picked the whole bundle up for around 90 bucks.

Soo much Warhammer to warhammer with! I'll be warhammering all that warhammer for ages, thanks Discourse! 👍

Does anyone have a source to buy Black Site Studio games in Europe (preferably continental)?

I painted my Stormtroopers with contrast paints and knocked the entire starter box worth along with Darth Vader in roughly 10 hrs

::looks at shelves..:: if only I had picked up Carnavele at Gencon like I wanted I would have all of these….

I can just imagine someone debating against 40K in terms of power-scaling, so he busts out his SW Legion minis and his Fallout Wasteland Warfare minis to fight against some guy's Space Marine army.

There's also some wonderful games and Miniatures being produced by small companies that I recommend everyone check out. Zombie Smith makes War Of Ashes which basically is Muppets with knives after the fall of Rome, or quar which is World War 1 anteaters bois constantly locked in combat. There's fly trap Studios which makes their caveman miniature game, and a game where cute little robots beat each other up. There's also independent companies that help to resurrect long Dead games that are still fun to play like seb games and their void 1.1 line

I thought there were literally secret Warhammer games that I didn't know about, and I was interested. Then I realised it's doubling down on the "Warhammer hobby" thing, and that's hilarious.

You are a very, very clever woman and this made me smile through the whole thing. Now you'll pardon me, I have a big Warhammer Dungeons & Dragons game to prep for.

i was going to buy into Batman but then I found Marvel Crisis Protocol and that became one of my favorite "Warhammer" game.

Your trolling level is so so high. Well done on expanding the "warhammer" hobby 👏

It's great to see Five Parsecs from Home get a mention. It's a wonderful game that get's better the more of your imagination you sink into it. It's as close to something like a tabletop, skirmish version of Mass Effect as I can find. As you can play by yourself, and as battles are so quick too, it's perfect to squeeze into breaks in a busy day. Did I say it's brilliant?

I fell for this video title hook line and sinker. And I applaud it. I legitimately thought you'd be talking about blood bowl and the like. To be honest, as somebody looking at getting into a non GW tabletop miniatures game, this video is useful too

Appreciate the info. I will definitely check out a few of them

Oh come on... Where is Warhammer Infinity, Warhammer Malifaux and Warhammer Moonstone?

I don't collect nor play these wargames but I love your reviews and awesome takes of the hobby!

Of all of your videos, this was by far my favourite. Thanks!

One that got left out is Battletech. It's be going longer than 40k and has lore that's pretty deep as well. There minis all over the place and some look amazing. It's pretty cheap to get into as well.

This is my favorite list of Warhammer games, ever.

Let's warhammer with the warhammer on warhammer!

I like Conquest: Last Arugment of Kings. It has the ability to play a skirmish game like AOS and then use square bases, and do a rank and file games like Warhammer Fantasy. The models look fantastic, and it is pretty cool seeing their take on things.

Took me a bit too long to figure out what the heck was going on here ... then I laughed out loud ... like ... a lot. If the laws of the land over Europe way are anything like the U.S.A. this is probably the best, most brilliant, way to deal with GW's insistence on calling the hobby "Warhammer" ... if everyone started doing this it would completely dilute the KZfaq algorithm advantage and eventually lead to GW losing their ownership of "Warhammer" just as Xerox lost "xerox". And it would all be GW having done this to themselves. This is some next level irony smackdown here. I'm all in for this. Awesome video, Discourse!

That's so many Warhammer miniature brands!!

Laughs in trademark dilution. 😂

Looking forward to seeing what the mi-go sponsored for this week! It's great to see more eldritch abominations getting involved in the Warhammer Hobby :)

I own 5 parsecs. Awesome. I even start a crew "journal" writing the story as it reveals from the dice. Excellent concept and many hrs of played time. There's a medieval version ... 5 leagues

Well played. With the whole video and setup. 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏

Awesome video! Good seeing five parsecs get some love, and especially miniatures agnostic games. Just wanted to add if you like miniatures agnostic skirmish games, Snarling Badger studios has two fantastic games. Reign in Hell and Space Station Zero are awesome games, and I've been using these games to teach my nephew about skirmish level games, solo and co-op gaming, and letting him choose his own models to print and teaching him to paint on his own choices. Both of these are easy to get into, Gameplay is fast and brutal in both of these games, and the only complaint I would say I have is that Snarling Badger studios uses D12 systems for their games, and so you need a lot of 12 Sided dice to play, which can be annoying. But we have been having a ton of fun. I would say that both games get a 10/10 for miniatures (because miniatures agnostic) And gameplay I'll say Reign in Hell is probably a 7/10 and Space Station Zero I'd call a 9/10

Just a nice thing to notice- Fallout has official terrain STLs you can buy.

So I have been watching for awhile, I don't recall hearing about it, but I recommend you look at This is Not a Test if you haven't in the past. This has all the narrative elements that you can find playing Necromunda with a good campaign system while giving you the feel of playing in Fallout or Borderlands. That is one of my favorite skirmish games that I rarely get to play because no one really knows about it or is willing to take a plunge.

Please turn this into a series!

I totally missed the shade and was very confused for a minute 😆

One curve ball recommendation is a game called _Turnip28._ It's a game about muskets, mud, murder...and root vegetables. For real, though, it's a unit-based game (somewhere in size between skirmish and mass battle), set in a grimdark blackpowder post-apocalypse (what I like to call "Bleakpowder"). Not unlike a similar game, _Sludge,_ except everyone in Turnip28 are crazed root-mutants. Mentally and physically warped by eating The Root, an enormous plant choking the life out of the world and killing all other vegetation, and now follow the visions of erstwhile root prophets. These combinations of cult leader, commander, and gentry lead their bedraggled followers across the mud-strewn countryside, for food and glory and mock-vegetables budded off from The Root in the form of extinct root veggies. Everyone is a coward, everyone has lost control of their lives, and nothing matters. So why not get into a shoot-out against other weirdos, using ancient muskets pulled from the mud? Have fun! The big draw of Turnip28, aside from its weird Cult rules (which apply highly inventive abilities, mechanics, and units to your base Turnip28 army), is the kit-bashing potential. While the creator (Max FitzGerald) offers 3D printable models for use in the game, it's a miniatures agnostic affair. You're encouraged to combine Napoleonic and medieval and whatever other bits, along with everything from epoxy pudding to static grass, to produce your own wholly unique band of lunatics. And don't forget to slather them all in dark washes and mud texture! It's everything you want out of the Inq28 movement, except with more turnips.

Yes ❤ excellent way to get your point across.

That looks like an incredibly comfortable jumper... And thank you for the coverage of other games.

Thanks for mentioning my favorite game; 5 Parsecs from Home! There is also the new Fantasy version, 5 Leagues from the Borderlands, which I am going to try next.