Discover Why I Can't Stop Raving About the Wharfedale Linton 85th Anniversary Speaker

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Erin's Audio Corner

Erin's Audio Corner

Күн бұрын

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This one truly surprised me. In a good way. I'm also trying something new with audio demos of this speaker vs where I take the (anechoic, on-axis) impulse response and convolve it with a song. I do play this convolved song vs the original track vs the Klipsch Heresy IV. I think (hope) will give you a better appreciation of the neutrality of this speaker.
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Timestamps:
Subjective Evaluation: 0:00
Build Quality: 8:11
Objective Analysis: 12:03
Sound Clips (vs. Klipsch Heresy IV): 17:06
End: 22:57
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@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын
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@zacharybrewer4373
@zacharybrewer4373 4 ай бұрын
Thanks to your excellent reviews (you are without a doubt the best audiophile / speaker reviewer on KZfaq right now), I've narrowed down my purchase to the KEF R3 Meta and this Wharfedale Linton 85. I'm leaning a bit more toward the KEFs at the moment, because in your review of that speaker it seems like there are fewer trade offs given that I own a pretty decent subwoofer (Speedwoofer 10s). What do you think? Do you think it's better to get speakers-such as these Wharfedales-that can handle more bass on their own? Or are the positives that the KEFs bring more essential to a great listening experience?
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 4 ай бұрын
@@zacharybrewer4373Well, they really do sound quite different thanks to the wider radiation of the Linton (±50° on the R3 Meta vs ±70° on the Linton). The R3 Meta is overall a more 'neutral' speaker. But, I like both speakers. It's hard for me to say one is definitely better than the other because they're both quite good in their own right. As for using with a subwoofer; both will benefit greatly from one. If you have a place that you can order both from and try them both then I'd recommend doing that. If I had to pick one to recommend I'd probably lean toward the R3 Meta simply because it's overall more neutral, and given I don't know if you'd like a more narrow or more wider radiation. I hope that helps. If you do wind up ordering either, and don't mind, I'd really appreciate it if you'd use my affiliate link: howl.me/ck5H5EixFcY
@zacharybrewer4373
@zacharybrewer4373 4 ай бұрын
@@ErinsAudioCorner Thanks for the advice! I accidentally ordered the wrong color (Black Gloss) of the R3 Metas a couple days ago. I will be returning them to Best Buy as soon as they arrive. After that, I'll click your link and order the color I prefer (Walnut). I was thinking I would power the R3s with a new Yahmaha R-N800A receiver. But I saw in one of your other videos that you don't recommend powering them with an AVR. Do you think the R-N800A is insufficient?
@zacharybrewer4373
@zacharybrewer4373 4 ай бұрын
​@@ErinsAudioCorner I bought both the R3s and the Lintons and tested each one for about a week each. I bit the bullet and purchased a $4000 Yamaha R-N2000A, which I used to power both (its amp is definitely powerful enough). I also paired both with my Speedwoofer 10s subwoofer. I returned the KEFs today. The warmness of the Lintons ultimately won me over. The precision of the KEFs impressed me more initially, but after long listening sessions, that precision started to sound a bit harsh. In contrast, I was happy listening to the Lintons from dawn till dusk. They Lintons are "smoother". They blend sounds better, whereas the KEFs keep every instrument distinct. The Lintons are like soup that tastes better after its been left in the fridge for a day. Even though its less "fresh", it still tastes better, because the flavors have had time to blend together. Anyway, thanks for helping my find my "perfect" speakers-or at least speakers I'm very happy with! You do great work! I would not have even heard about the Lintons if not for you. I just gave you a small PayPal donation.
@CliffForster
@CliffForster Жыл бұрын
I'm a Linton owner. I love the richness in the midrange, it's an incredible speaker for bring out vocals. The tweeter is a bit mellow, and the bass takes a while to break in, I found the bass driver loosened up nicely and improved it's thump after a couple hundred hours. I have really enjoyed them. The Heresy which I have listened to, it's wonderful for jazz and classical but I find that it colors vocals a little. In a larger space where it can breathe it's less pronounced but if you are on top of the speaker, the directional nature of the horns, it can be a bit overpowering. The Linton is also interesting because even though it's rear ported, it's not too bad to have it just six inches away from a wall because the 8" bass driver isn't tuned so aggressively to drown anything else out, in fact I prefer it to get a little more bass loading near the walls, so that makes them a little easier to place in a smaller space vs. the Heresy which I really feel like it needs a room to breathe in.
@charlieaydin1377
@charlieaydin1377 Жыл бұрын
Great to hear, thanks for the mini write up. Cant wait to hear a pair. Which amp are you running?
@CliffForster
@CliffForster Жыл бұрын
@@charlieaydin1377 I have an Arcam SA20 integrated. It’s a nice Swiss Army knife of an amp. It does a neat little trick with dynamics because it mostly runs in pure class A but if it needs reserves it can go AB for more power. The only criticism I can think is if you are a bass head it’s a little reserved in combination with the Linton but that’s what suits me personally. I like to hear the bass, I don’t necessarily have to feel it. It makes for a really balanced presentation. The DAC is great, the MM phono stage doesn’t leave me wanting to upgrade either.
@Rob3rtM
@Rob3rtM Жыл бұрын
Its best choice on market in that price. I mean about new speakers. Im owner to.
@gdwlaw5549
@gdwlaw5549 Жыл бұрын
are you still happy with them. I’m about to plunge. I already own a nice pair of audiophile speakers and want something different
@CliffForster
@CliffForster Жыл бұрын
@@gdwlaw5549 As a vinyl guy, I love the presentation and the stands still, great vintage vibe. The price is fair in my opinion, one of those few things where you get a little more than you pay for. The mid range presentation is warm and buttery. Beautiful. The tweeter is laid back and natural sounding, you give up what some might say is air and detail, personally, I find certain tweeter designs to be a little too aggressive, this is very vintage sounding in that regard. The one thing is that bass driver takes time to move and break in to fill the speaker out. It's a little bit of a time commitment. I found some songs with a forward kick drum to really make that think move and break and would play them a little loud and walk away sometimes to let it stretch, it takes many hours to break this woofer in. Thing is, the way the ports are tuned you can put them reasonably close to the back wall without them booming or hearing port noise coming off it, I'm not saying right up against it, but I don't know, maybe a foot off the wall (maybe not even that much) is all it needs to breathe and sound good, so if you want a little extra bass you can just move them back a little and they are fine. Obviously, you can add a powered woofer, I didn't, I wanted the simplicity of not having to fight to get the blend right. Once you get it broken in and placed in your room, it's a pleasant musical bass, if you give it some juice especially, it can slam a bit, but it's not like movie theater rumble your seat bass. I use them for two channel theater too, for my tastes it's fine for that, but your milage may vary if you are a bass head and think oh wow, a three way with eight-inch woofers, that will slam... It has it's lower limits, what it does it does well and clean, but it's not going to shake your insides. If the deepest most intense bass from a system without a sub isn't a priority and you are not one of those guys that is listening for a super detailed high end, you prefer a warmer velvety vintage sound, I think it does everything you could want it to. I listen to them on an Arcam SA20 integrated. It's a nice pairing and I really wanted a simple swiss army knife kind of amp, DAC, Vinyl Preamp, all in one. I'd say it sounds really clean on the slightly warm side. That said, I did audition them in store with a Yamaha A-S1200 - and OMG is that a fun rock and roll pairing. Lot's of growl and attitude. It's a really fun pairing if you want to crank it and play heavier music on it. Sometimes I wish I would have spent a little more, added a DAC and got the A-S1200, but at the time the Arcam was on sale for less than half the price of that Yamaha so I voted with the wallet. I do think the Arcam sounds a little better at lower listening volumes, but when you let it rip, the Yahama A-S1200 and Linton's seem like they were made exactly for that purpose together.
@osirismarbles5177
@osirismarbles5177 Жыл бұрын
I don't think anyone is doing what you're doing. Your approach to reviews is unique, detailed, and much appreciated. Your channel is highly undervalued.
@benplunkett5337
@benplunkett5337 10 ай бұрын
This is great content. Seriously it's a cut above the rest of the KZfaq reviewers out there. Having solid data to backup your subjective take is invaluable. Keep up the good work!
@johnrichardson9040
@johnrichardson9040 2 жыл бұрын
Probably your best technical review and subjective review yet. Thank you Erin for your honesty and genuine enthusiasm for these Wharfedales.
@stephencaronna3265
@stephencaronna3265 2 жыл бұрын
Great review. I bought these a few months ago and couldn’t be happier! Long live Wharfedale!
@jimmy2shoes75
@jimmy2shoes75 2 жыл бұрын
Oh man I'm so glad I bought these speakers. I got them when they first came out based on their vintage style. There were some reviews/info out at the time, but not the glowing reviews that are now out for them. I just liked the look of them, and I love Wharfedale speakers in general. After the first week of listening to them, I was in love and these speakers were special. By far the most enjoyable speakers I have ever listened to. I also have 3 x LS50 metas in my HT room, so best of both worlds. Great review Erin, glad you liked them 👍
@shaunonverwacht9626
@shaunonverwacht9626 2 жыл бұрын
I love the change! Please include the impulse response convolution with all your future reviews. 🍻
@jauckehamstra5520
@jauckehamstra5520 2 ай бұрын
Hi Erin, thanks to this and your other enthousiastic videos about the Lintons, I have just bought a pair and I could not have been happier (especially given the price).
@variancelog
@variancelog 2 жыл бұрын
The idea of convolving music with the speaker impulse response files is genius!
@thecliqueshallsetyoufree8745
@thecliqueshallsetyoufree8745 2 жыл бұрын
yes, this was actually extremely useful.
@MichaelPuente
@MichaelPuente Жыл бұрын
I've watched several video reviews on the Wharfedale Linton but this video contains the most useful information. Thanks.
@normanham6142
@normanham6142 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the work you put into your reviews Erin. I’ve been waiting & hoping for Your review of the Lintons. Been researching these speakers for a few months now. It’s refreshing to see honest listening impressions coupled with the Klippel measurements. I trust your work, passion & integrity. I believe I read that the Lintons were designed to play with grills in place. Thanks again 👍🏼😎
@kaneda7katsuragi
@kaneda7katsuragi 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome review. Found the results very interesting - especially the wide dispersion.. Thanks for doing this.
@schoebelski6602
@schoebelski6602 11 ай бұрын
Great test approach thank you. ...also thanks for your extra work and interesting take on how to create and offer us a little sound demo. Awesome. 👍👍👍
@TheRaymondoman
@TheRaymondoman 2 жыл бұрын
Great review . The convolution trick you have done at the end is fascinating
@brwn_pprbg
@brwn_pprbg 2 жыл бұрын
You’re the best, Erin. Thank you. I’m grateful for your time and knowledge.
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын
Well, thank you as well!
@martindc83
@martindc83 Жыл бұрын
Excellent, very comprehensive and honest work. Looking forward to buying a pair of whaferdale linton. Best regards from Uruguay 🇺🇾.
@abbersj2935
@abbersj2935 Жыл бұрын
Really great reviews, educated subjective opinions backed up with great measured objective data. One of the very few reviewers worth listening to. Thanks for your efforts. Best wishes.
@mattholland315
@mattholland315 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant content as usual Erin. I think your channel deserves to grow a lot. My only constructive critique is to not labour on points so much and cut out any repetition. That being said, I think your combination of honest, down to earth and relatable subjective analysis combined with what must be some of the best measurements published anywhere makes your channel uniquely interesting and of high value. The convoluted sound clips idea is also a really nice addition allowing us to hear relative differences in tonal balance. You must have one of the most undervalued channels in the field of audio at the moment! Really great work. All the best.
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the feedback. I'm still in my "play around" phase with how I want to do these listening examples. Lots of ideas. Just have to keep plugging and see what works best.
@HotSause
@HotSause 2 жыл бұрын
Love the sound demo. Some more in future videos, please.
@chinmeysway
@chinmeysway Жыл бұрын
love what you do, hope you can keep doing it
@masterofdisaster492
@masterofdisaster492 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to see you finally found something you avtually liked😎
@joemato
@joemato Жыл бұрын
I've been repeatedly searching KZfaq for a very good presentation for the three speakers I'm Eyeing : Cabasse Jersey MC 179, Linton 85 and PSB Imagine T2. Reason for the choice is that I've narrowed them down to ones available around my place . Your presentation made me decide to go for the Linton 85 due to your scientific measurement, personal assessment and sound demo. Hope every other presenter could follow your method and limit the regrets after buying the speaker. Many thanks :)
@RobCCTV
@RobCCTV Жыл бұрын
The opening commentary clearly showed a measured truly objective measured approach. These speakers are indeed superb. Agree with every word said. There are so many speakers that are designed to grab your attention, but are tedious to listen-to. These speakers are excellent for long term listening and provide the detail that is simply impressive.
@frankpratt529
@frankpratt529 2 жыл бұрын
I'm really enjoying the way you are presenting the "virtual auditioning" of various speakers. Please do more. Thanks.
@haridaspillay
@haridaspillay 2 ай бұрын
Made the plunge, waiting patiently now for my Linton's to arrive. Thanks, Erin for another awesome informative video!
@xsamitt
@xsamitt 5 ай бұрын
Have them love them! They are truly fantastic !
@JamesWilliams-gf8gm
@JamesWilliams-gf8gm 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing review. Love the sound demo too.
@niallms83
@niallms83 Жыл бұрын
I bought the Denton 85 blind because I owned Wharfedale speakers previously and really enjoyed them. I’m glad I bought them. They look and sound great!
@we8463
@we8463 Жыл бұрын
“0h my gosh this is the best thing ever “ 😅😂 Excellent thank you for all the great reviews!
@mehi8145
@mehi8145 2 жыл бұрын
So cool, Erin! Good job!
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@TT-ix5yr
@TT-ix5yr 11 ай бұрын
thank you for the nice detailed review, I liked the demo part too
@bryanwolf9031
@bryanwolf9031 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Best review I've seen.
@NosEL34
@NosEL34 Жыл бұрын
I had to come back and watch this review a 2nd time, I just ordered a pair of the Linton's. Unfortunately I ordered from a place not listed in the affiliate links. What I didn't catch the 1st time I watched was the actual speaker sensitivity...I hope it's not an issue with a tube amp I was hoping to pair with them. Such a great thorough review, I'm really starting to miss your video's Erin, you truly are one of the best speaker reviewers out there. Hope you are doing well and that life is getting back to some type of normalcy for you. I'll be keeping an eye out for you at the 2023 Florida Audio Expo..take care, peace.
@klivegee
@klivegee 5 ай бұрын
Great review
@avnut5517
@avnut5517 2 жыл бұрын
Clearly a well engineered speaker. Clever grill design. Love your testing and analysis as always.
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@stevenswall
@stevenswall 2 жыл бұрын
It looks like a horribly engineered speaker: no waveguide, no advanced port geometry, no inherently rigid cabinet shape, no DSP, no circuit protection, bad ceiling and floor reflections, lobeing, internal reflections (glad they have a ton of batting, not having parallel walls would help too but nobody does this), bracing taking up internal volume, no coaxial drivers, and heat based passive crossovers. Guessing/hoping the measurements show something different, as I have never seen a purposefully archaic, legacy design like this perform well.
@NiToNi2002
@NiToNi2002 2 жыл бұрын
@@stevenswall You obviously didn’t watch the video.
@stevenswall
@stevenswall 2 жыл бұрын
@@NiToNi2002 I watched it. Did you see the part in my comment where I said "it looks like"? Are you seeing a waveguide, different port geometry, rounded cabinet, and built in amps?
@NiToNi2002
@NiToNi2002 2 жыл бұрын
@@stevenswall I also saw the part “Guessing/hoping the measurements show something different” which implies you hadn’t watched the video. But fair enough, a lot of the things you’re mentioning are absent, which is not unusual at this price point. Fortunately, they seem to perform relatively well both objectively and subjectively despite these omissions. Danny Richie doesn’t seem to agree and wants to sell you a +$700 filter upgrade. His measurements differ from Erin’s to the extent that I question the basis for his “upgrades” of these as well as other speakers: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/f7ZhlLR6nJu7h6M.html
@joentell
@joentell 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed these when I was at Axpona in 2019. The little brother to these, the Denton 85th were my favorite speakers for a long time and are still high on my Speaker Leaderboard. I really liked the use of the anechoic impulse response to convolve the songs for the demo. That's next level stuff in this audio review space. On a selfish level, I'm just happy I get to talk to you about IR convolution without seeming like the crazy person. I'm curious how far the idea can go.
@cremersalex
@cremersalex 2 жыл бұрын
I have both the Lintons and the Denton 85. The Dentons have more upper mid-range and treble energy, resulting in better clarity, especially noticeable during movie dialog. I do prefer the big and lifelike sound of the Lintons. It's as if the music seems to come from one full-range driver.
@joentell
@joentell 2 жыл бұрын
@@cremersalex Sweet!
@morayjames92
@morayjames92 Жыл бұрын
@@cremersalex Hello. I have heard both the Lintons and the Dentons (both 85th /anniversary) but in different systems. I like a good two way and was impressed with the Dentons. I have to admit to having a two way bias but I also love how the Lintons sound as well. I am wondering if a 2.2 system with Dentons and subs might be a smoother performer (from 1KHz up) than the Lintons? Have you seen any reliable response measurements done of the Dentons? Thanks for any comments or redirects.
@cremersalex
@cremersalex Жыл бұрын
@@morayjames92 In my experience, the Denton 85 sounds brighter than the Lintons, so if you have older, less perfect recordings, or remasters where they have applied too much high frequency EQ, they might become less pleasant to listen to. This is never a problem on the Lintons though, especially not after months of usage (at first I heard too much mids and not enough treble, but they get better over time, and now I think they are almost perfect). If you don't listen to 'questionable' material, then the Denton 85 can sound very impressive, giving you more clarity than the Lintons. I loved them for watching movies because I could understand the dialog very well. Sorry, but I don't have any experience with subs and I don't think I've seen much measurements for the Dentons either. The Lintons seem to be much more popular.
@morayjames92
@morayjames92 Жыл бұрын
@@cremersalex thanks for your reply. I guess we will have to find a pair of Dentons and try them to see in the intended system. Since the Denton uses the same tweeter as the Linton's they should be able to be adjusted to work the real question will be can they play with subs and achieve the desired levels. Thanks again for responding.
@davidozburn4939
@davidozburn4939 2 жыл бұрын
I ordered the Linton's the day before this video dropped. Glad it seems like the right choice!
@cremersalex
@cremersalex 2 жыл бұрын
The might sound good out of the box but they get much smoother over time.
@nielsoe8970
@nielsoe8970 Жыл бұрын
@@cremersalex exactly. I would say 200 hours of break in is required.
@Darrylizer1
@Darrylizer1 2 жыл бұрын
I'm trying to make a decision between the Lintons and the KLH 5 and your review was very helpful. Thanks! Edit: I especially liked the speaker comparison at the end, very interesting.
@DougMen1
@DougMen1 2 жыл бұрын
IMO the KLH sounds a lot better
@maheeinfy13
@maheeinfy13 2 жыл бұрын
Wharfedale makes great speakers. Can’t think of a bad model from them
@dagreatstoney.5869
@dagreatstoney.5869 2 жыл бұрын
Great speakers,at a reasonable price, keep the good work up 👍
@user-nj5it7sq3c
@user-nj5it7sq3c 5 ай бұрын
Great review, and your hunch is 100% correct - Peter Comeau has mentioned this in interviews - all Wharfedale's heritage series loudspeakers are designed to be used with the grills on.
@JeffN-A
@JeffN-A Жыл бұрын
First off, thank you for this video, producing and editing can be a real PIA! I ALWAYS learn from your presentations. My search for some decent speakers led me here, which is quite pleasing as I have watched, learned, AND purchased items after viewing your testing methods in previous vids. I am smiling at your review, because I had been moving closer to buying a set of these. I am a little wary of "the dip" as I seem to like a little more top side sound. To bad I can't A/B the Heresy's and the Lintons. No matter, I can't spring the dollars for the Klipsch anyhow. So, once again I do believe you have sold me on more gear. I'd like to add, that I hope things are improving. The internet is a funny place, you get to watch a fellow doing informative and interesting videos and somehow you think you know him/her, and find your self thinking about them and their trials in life, and wondering... None of us need to know, we just hope you come back some day. I am quite sure I am not the only one that feels this way. Good luck brother.
@paulchisholm9392
@paulchisholm9392 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. I was expecting a cynical explotation of an old name with old technology but it appears I was wrong. It's good to see effort made in the design and engineering of the Linton. Thanks also for the A/B comparisons, definitely a good idea to get an impression of what it sounds like.
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help!
@Simon_Hawkshaw
@Simon_Hawkshaw 2 жыл бұрын
Great review. Many thanks.
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@TheJanakev
@TheJanakev 2 жыл бұрын
The clips work well over headphones. Thanks for the effort
@rippedgeek
@rippedgeek 2 жыл бұрын
Erin, loved the video, great review, and I can tell you that the sound demo is pretty damn well done, I have the Linton 85s here and though it's not exact, it's very very close. Well done man!
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын
Sweet! Thanks for the feedback!
@-MarkWinston-
@-MarkWinston- 2 жыл бұрын
Wharfedales are great at making all rounders, which will sound good will almost anything. A very safe choice. They sound warmish (most wharfedales do) despite the slightly elavated treble. When I heard these they were great, just not really my type of sound. Prefered the cheaper Diamond 12.4, which would be great if you get the chance to put in on the klippel. Another great one Erin!
@billd9667
@billd9667 Жыл бұрын
That would seem to indicate low distortion in the mids/highs. There is no other explanation for elevated highs that don’t grate on your nerves. Great design here. I bought a pair and, at first they seemed “hot” compared to my Buchardt S300s. I moved them to a Yamaha R-N803 and they continued to seem bright. This morning I moved them back to my NAD M10 and, voila, the hotness is gone! Now, it may be my ears, but they now sound perfect. Go figure, unless it’s the “wimpy” 14G speaker wires from the Yamaha lol. Honestly, I think it’s me that has been broken in. Whatever - these are keepers. I still love the S300s - their bass is remarkable, but the rest now seems muted. They are fantastic background/party speakers. Too bad the NAD doesn’t have speaker switching…
@-MarkWinston-
@-MarkWinston- Жыл бұрын
@@billd9667 there are no elevated highs showing in the data. In fact, there is a slight dip in the crucial 1-3khz region.
@willbrink
@willbrink 3 ай бұрын
Sounds like they would be a solid deal at 2x the $. Nice to see a brand supplying great value for costs. That's pretty rare these days. My ATC SCM 19s are great speakers, but over 2X that price and need a sub for full range sound!
@HaraldMacGerhard
@HaraldMacGerhard 2 ай бұрын
Way cool ❤ I think Wharfedale delivers.... in spades 😎 Price / Value proposition is great 🎉
@wollaminfaetter
@wollaminfaetter 2 ай бұрын
I'm bying a used pair of these tomorrow. Can't wait. You guys in US have access to all the good stuff, us in Denmark have to be vigilant and ready to move!
@abdo-dr1tu
@abdo-dr1tu 2 жыл бұрын
To be honest on-axis (whatever that axis is for your situation) linearity is the #1 deciding factor on preference in my experience. Good directivity makes sure that you're not the only one in the room experiencing good sound.
@magnusdanielsson2749
@magnusdanielsson2749 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice speakers. I like the retro style and the size. Also seem very well engineered. Interesting how similar they sounded to the unaltered music signal. The drivers do look like the discovery line. So might be worth looking for a diy design. Troels have made a speaker in this design with discovery drivers.
@3nigmatiq1
@3nigmatiq1 Жыл бұрын
"There is no perfect speaker." 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽So many people in this hobby forget this binding fact in their judgemental comments on the weaknesses of other people's choice of equipment. Thanks for your work and great commentary, just ordered a pair and I'm like a kid looking forward to Christmas morning!
@richardsinger01
@richardsinger01 Жыл бұрын
So true. There are a lot of armchair “experts” out there.
@pierrecastanets1974
@pierrecastanets1974 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like something I would find in my great grandparents home.
@healthynutster
@healthynutster 2 жыл бұрын
Thorough, thoughtful review as usual. Your findings make me wonder how the top of the line Elysian 4 would sound and measure. They are on my shortlist of new speakers in a ht configuration. I know Andrew Robinson liked them, but didn’t care for the glossy finish, which to me, is a non-issue.
@dharminderkalsi2311
@dharminderkalsi2311 2 жыл бұрын
“I would rather have a speaker with low end extension over perfect directivity”
@dgregory4178
@dgregory4178 2 жыл бұрын
I have a set of Pioneer HPM 40's from late 70's/early 80's that I love. 3 way, 10' woofer and they have bass! I replaced the caps and resistors and they woke up and i really enjoy them. You can buy a 6" mid/tweeter speaker and add a sub but its not the same.
@Xmvw2X
@Xmvw2X 2 жыл бұрын
It's hard to get nearly the results of a 3-way with an 8" midbass from any 2-way. 2-ways always seem compromised to a degree. It's not that it's impossible, but for almost any 2-way, you'll trading off output from the woofer or the tweeter. You can run a 2-way with a smaller woofer, but you only have so much cone area available. A port or PR is only going to help so much. Or you run a bigger woofer and have pairing issues to the tweeter. So you're picking some rarer tweeters that can actually get down low, but you can't get high output from them. Or you go bigger and pick a full range 2" or maybe even 3" as your high end, and trade away off-axis behavior. Just going through numbers, an 8" woofer just gets you to a really good point for general use (just not super loud use), and there's enough products on the market that are good. You also get variety in the midrange and tweeter combos that work quite well, and you can mix and match a variety of different combos for the desired goals. And the packaging remains small enough to not end up with a huge enclosure. Output breadth is, at least for me, a fundamental necessity. You need to cover the spectrum first and foremost just to play the whole of the music. If you short the top and/or bottom, you're missing content.
@Azzy_Mazzy
@Azzy_Mazzy 2 жыл бұрын
You are expecting too much from 6” midwoofers, most of them benefit with a subwoofer.
@scotth6814
@scotth6814 Жыл бұрын
@@dgregory4178 My very first speakers were HPM-40's. Underrated speaker of it's time. The big brother HPM-100's are still very highly regarded by many.
@dgregory4178
@dgregory4178 Жыл бұрын
@@scotth6814 I refurbed a set of HPM-100 as well back in the day. I didn't have the ability to measure freq response at the time but they didn't sound as good as the 40's. These things were beasts tho. I believe the front baffles were 1.5" thick MDF. Sold them in one day on Craigslist
@daftcombo4402
@daftcombo4402 2 жыл бұрын
Nice review Erin! Thank you very much. Those cost around 850 € in France for a pair.
@alexz1232
@alexz1232 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome to see a modern day big baffle speaker which performs well. Less baffle step loss is always a good thing, but so many of the "vintage" models have terrible crossover design, or resonances sharp enough to cut rocks.
@jerryjohnson4625
@jerryjohnson4625 Жыл бұрын
Nice Linton review. My first time watching you. A plastic spatula works well to remove the grill. They sound very good. I'm powering mine w/ a 35watt tube integrated and a Emotiva RS 11sub.
@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120
@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120 2 жыл бұрын
Its great hearing other peoples expierence espically the excitement The E.E. over at IAG are 🔥 Wanted to hear these paired to the Audiolab 8300a integrated amp i got in or thr Dovetails 😆 Thanks For the review'
@juicebox853
@juicebox853 2 жыл бұрын
I always wondered about what effect a traditional design speaker with recessed grills has on diffraction. I assumed it was not good. Also, kind of surprised speaker companies still make these designs. Must just be for the retro looks.
@stephenlegg262
@stephenlegg262 2 жыл бұрын
My first speakers. Bought in 1972. Great British speakers.
@Shrebina-kq4cs
@Shrebina-kq4cs Жыл бұрын
excellent review.
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@Sam_CL350
@Sam_CL350 Жыл бұрын
I've owned these speakers for two years. Driving them with a Hegel H95 and have a JL Audio Dominion D110 subwoofer in my setup. I have tried three other sets of speakers, the KEF LS50 Meta, Buchardt S400 MKII, and the Klipsch RP600M. "Chasing the sound." I'm using a switch box so I can do an immediate comparison. For my preference, I liked the Wharfedale best. The Buchardt was a close second. I've now ordered the Polk Reserve R700. This is my last attempt to find a bigger/better sound. Maybe I should just stop watching these KZfaq videos and stick with what I have. They sound great! :)
@TexasCorgiGun
@TexasCorgiGun Жыл бұрын
Hey man, wow I went the same way, tried the kef and the buchardt, did you get around the R700 ? They look interesting.
@Eron55555
@Eron55555 6 ай бұрын
Still with the Lintons?
@marclemieux9387
@marclemieux9387 4 ай бұрын
Sam how did your A/B testing with the R700s go? I have them and am considering the Linton 85s as the Polk top end seems overly bright to me. I feel I might enjoy a warmer speaker overall.
@NiceCreamyBaileys
@NiceCreamyBaileys 2 жыл бұрын
Nice review. I love my Lintons. Paired with a Rotell A11 Tribute and a Cambridge CXN. Does everything I need. They also suit my style ;)
@Lordofmrak
@Lordofmrak Жыл бұрын
Is 50W from Rotel enough power for them to get loud? Kinda stupid question, but I am new and want to buy them as my first speakers and was thinking about Rotel A11 Tribute as amp.
@javiborruel5804
@javiborruel5804 2 ай бұрын
Please! I need to know the answer for this question! Thx from Spain
@NiceCreamyBaileys
@NiceCreamyBaileys 2 ай бұрын
My room is 6m x 5m. The combo is loud enough at 2/3rds of the available volume to annoy my neighbours
@jbucap87
@jbucap87 2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoy your videos I have learned a lot from them even did my own custom speaker project here recently! Although I don't have a klippel did it the old fashioned way with outdoor measurements. I like the addition of those sound clips could you possibly use the early reflections or estimated in room response IR's as well? Thanks for all the work you put into these videos!
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын
Cool, thanks!
@AmazonasBiotop
@AmazonasBiotop 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Erin! I noticed that the Tweeter is placed so it has different distances to each of the 4 sides. Probably a great design idea. But also the rectangular surrounding piece with the logotyp that is placed in the center line above the midrange so it fools the eye a little bit that all is symmetrical.. I should start of with that it is a briljant idea for the sound Matlab manipulation! So we can hear the difference between input and the specific output for the given speaker. You said that you don't have a way to know of the value of the speaker. A idea is now you have the original song input. And you have also a level matched output for the speaker. If you could subtract/remove what you now get as output from the speaker from what the input was. So you get the difrence what the speaker add/remove from the original input sound. If you define 1-10 different levels there 1 is the least amount of difrence and 10 is maximum difference. Call the value SoundEqualityRating (SER). Then take the speaker price and devide it with SER. A speaker that cost 1000$ and get 3 SER gets 333 dollar/SER Another speaker that also cost 1000$ and get worse SER at 5 gets 200 dollar/SER So the 333 dollar/SER should be a HIGHER VALUE speaker in regards it colour/deviates the least of the two at that price. Then maybe mix up the input songs (maybe partial bits of songs may work) so it is a blend of different genres at some distribution. But when done then lock that in as a constant to br used. Just maybe a inspirational idea. 💆🎶🎼🎵👍
@amolmanthekar
@amolmanthekar Жыл бұрын
Thanks Erin! This is the most accurate review and also probably the most informative video on Lintons. I own a pair of Lintons and enjoying them from last 6 months. Really appreciate your hardwork in recording the demo. Very well done 👍. Feel so happy while listening to the demo, those Lintons are very close to original track.
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner Жыл бұрын
I agree. I have seriously considered buying a pair of these for myself a few different times.
@kevincheong1516
@kevincheong1516 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the validation. It is about time someone came up with an objective review other than the one I read from Stereophile. Good job Erin!!
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! I was surprised to see these weren't measured elsewhere, myself.
@cremersalex
@cremersalex 2 жыл бұрын
@@ErinsAudioCorner Roaming the internet, I discovered that several reviewers have measured the Lintons. With one exception, all concluded that they are surprisingly neutral.
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын
@@cremersalex I didn’t find any that have anechoic measurements (namely off-axis to any helpful degree (no pun intended)). Maybe I just missed them.
@gcahill51
@gcahill51 Жыл бұрын
Why no captions?
@gcahill51
@gcahill51 Жыл бұрын
You should set up a Patreon account
@MichaelBeeny
@MichaelBeeny 2 жыл бұрын
Wharfedale have been around since the 30s. The original Linton was a very budget 2 way speaker that sold in the 10s of thousands. It was many peoples first dip into HiFi in the UK. I'm really pleased you chose to test this speaker. Most British speakers sound so much better than American stuff like Bose and Klipsch which must be the worlds most over rated speakers ever. Amazing what you can do with advertising! These speakers must be on open stands, don't be tempted to buy them without and stand on the floor, they sound dreadful, very muddy and bass heavy. My room is very well damped, heavy curtains and carpet, I found the HF just about perfect. Interesting you found the upper mid a couple of dB down. I found when I set these up I had put on 1.5dB boost at these frequency's. Good to know your measurements confirm my ears.
@DougMen1
@DougMen1 2 жыл бұрын
Bose do suck, but B&Ws current speakers have a bigger suckout in the mids and a tweeter that's even hotter and sriller than cheap Klipsch models. Klipsch Heritage models made in Hope Arkansas are a different animal altogether, and the La Scala and Klipshorns are some of the best ever made at any price
@duroxkilo
@duroxkilo 2 ай бұрын
i really really liked the 'simulation' thing 21:30. i think it's v useful, thanks for the effort...
@psyphonyxaudio
@psyphonyxaudio 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice.. Great analysis, as always. I'm curious and hopeful .. you'll get a set of the new PSB - Passif 50 - Their 50th anniversary speaker.. to head-to-head in this .. classic large box style speaker show down. I suppose we'll have to see if an owner or PSB is willing to share. I think Paul would be delighted to have his latest classic on display. cheers!
@kapiti414
@kapiti414 2 жыл бұрын
Great review, I use impulse response functions and matlab coding thereof in economic time series analysis. Interesting how this crosses over (pun intended) to speaker measurement. Have had the Lintons myself for over a year in the lounge, were recommended by my local HiFi store owner who reckoned you needed to go +5k to get something better.
@jcisme
@jcisme 2 жыл бұрын
Dig the impulse response demo. As a bassplayer I already use these for bass cabs in recording.
@puddleglumsmusiccollection9151
@puddleglumsmusiccollection9151 3 ай бұрын
I bought these and they sound incredible with my peachtree Nova
@tbonet859
@tbonet859 Жыл бұрын
Nicely done. I watched your video during lunch, at work today. I was curious about your suggestion of toeing speakers out, a wee bit. So, after work: I gave it a go with my Wharfedale Evo 4.2, which reside in my 15' x 15' bedroom system. Surprisingly, it sounds better. Listening to Fourplay's first album on SACD: It does take the edge of the treble reflections in this room's untreated acoustics. The midrange opened up, is spread out more. More space and air. Guitars and keyboards are beautifully floating and emotive The whole bass frequencies ( that the Evo 4.2 are capable of): tightened up in tone, projecting out wide from the center point of the two speakers: yet is fuller and more open🤔 Dang! I'm not going to pretend to understand all the science. But ....Wow!! Thank you for the suggestion.
@yeahright3733
@yeahright3733 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Erin. I remember they sold these with the stands for $999.00 not too long ago.
@gcahill51
@gcahill51 Жыл бұрын
No way.
@johnpetrakis379
@johnpetrakis379 2 жыл бұрын
Another aside, being a OG audio guy "Geezer" if you like, I remember with great fondness the Heybrook HB-2 ( the rest of the line stank) sold the shit out of them in like 83 -84, the reason I mention them is about the design of well, like a ported bass reflex, but with a twist, much like these Lintons. They were a design by Peter Como. and what made these nice (not as accurate as Spica TC-50's but more fun!) there was a plastic tube that had tuning holes in it that was placed against the back of the in the cabinet against the rear of the woofer/mid and exited from a port in the back that a bit of foam around it, I guess for port turbulence. The tube in the Linton, is, a nod towards that design. At the time Mission was the hot shit speaker (small one with a cabinet desigh sort of like slipping two boxes together) The Missions were unobtainium at the time (200.00 a pair) but for my money, it was the HB-2's that sang!! 499.00 a pair, and we usually sold them with the revived AR TT or a Rega Planar -2 or 3, with the then brand new NADS receiver , like a little over 1.2K$ system, it was Hot Stuff!!!~
@f18a
@f18a 11 ай бұрын
Great review, as always. The sound clips were quite good as well, since they adequately contrast the Klipsch vs the Wharfy. Ain't math great?
@MT-eb2dx
@MT-eb2dx 2 жыл бұрын
I tested these against the Kef ls50meta. The meta won for me, mainly because of the size and the apparent "boominess" that comes from the big cabinet. That said, on its own, I liked it very much as well.
@MrRidikolus
@MrRidikolus Жыл бұрын
You should have tried the KEF R3 if your just have to have the KEF name. But neither sound as good as the Linton.
@MechAdv
@MechAdv Жыл бұрын
@@MrRidikolusHe said he tested it. Which implies that he had them both in house at the same time deciding which one he liked better. Considering that the build quality of the LS50 Meta is extremely good, then it just comes down to preference. If he already has subs, then that basically kills any inherent configuration advantage of the 3-way vs 2-way, and coaxial drivers have a very accurate sound. Erin himself rates the R3 meta as the best speakers in this price category, so I don’t know what you’re on about.
@MrRidikolus
@MrRidikolus Жыл бұрын
What are YOU on about?
@jonuiuc
@jonuiuc 2 жыл бұрын
Nice review, its cool your observations and measurements more or less match mine when I auditioned these in my living room. If they are back down to $1500 its a good price, I had seen them as high as $2k w/ stands (i sorta consider the stands more or less mandatory unless you have real nice ones in mind). The bit about the vertical dispersion was a "good to know" I don't think I listened to it from below the tweeters, so I think it got a fair shake. Probably one of the least costly mass market three-way stand mounts available (really its only the Unifi, the other wharfedale, and the more expensive KLH I can think of). I am biased towards 3 ways though.
@anandshah71
@anandshah71 2 жыл бұрын
Nice Review after a long time a review of a vintage type affordable speaker Also for DIY fans who like making speakers check out Visatons Nimrod Kit a very similar maybe better bass extension for its DVC woofer
@ManuelMedellin.
@ManuelMedellin. Жыл бұрын
Turned out for me, that Wharfedale is a very interesting brand, I didn't love the Lintons, but I absolutely LOVE the Evo 4.4 from this brand. Modern, revealing sound similar like the KLH Model 5 which I enjoy, BUT with that Trademark Wharfedale Warmness added to it, so I'am planning to buy those instead of the Model 5 now. Can't go wrong with Wharfedale speakers for their asking price, one of the absolute best brands for Budget oriented people, who still demand High End Sound. For under 2000 $ there is really a Shortlist of brands delivering, such as Wharfedale and KLH, can't think of too many others from the Top of my Head.
@MickeyMishra
@MickeyMishra 2 жыл бұрын
3:50 THANK YOU! Not everyone is a loner and cuddles up with their Speakers. 21:28 Whoa! The wharfedale sounds almost indistinguishable from the source. I still like the way the Klipsch sounds but I think I would get fatigued after a while listening to modern music on axis for any period of time. the wharfedale literally sounds like a wire with gain for its reproduction of the source material. You don't hear that very often. Dare I say it? It sounds like a pair of Monitor speakers you use to mix music on.
@tombarber8013
@tombarber8013 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Erin for another great review. The price of these speakers hits the sweet spot for lots of people, especially at the present with a pair of speakers with stands for $1,500. There aren't a lot of good speakers you can buy for that much money, and my sense is that the Linton 85th is a tremendous value. I'm going to have to give them a listen. Even though the grill mitigates (one of favorite words ...) the edge diffraction, I'm still somewhat skeptical that this is a good design approach. Rounded corners don't really make much difference, but putting that lip on the baffle edges will definitely make a difference that isn't to be desired. I think they probably designed it that way as a homage to older speakers, and then a little bit of extra thought was put into the grill. The only other thing that stands out as a design choice that probably wasn't a good choice is the tweeter location. To my way of thinking the tweeter should always be vertically aligned with the midrange in a 3-way speaker, and placed as close as possible to the midrange. It's always easy to point out these kinds of things, sort of like Monday morning quarterbacking (which resumes in earnest in right about ten more weeks ...). It is without doubt a great value, and in the final analysis that's what matters, because it's always about getting the best sound quality you can get for the money you pay.
@gcahill51
@gcahill51 Жыл бұрын
With the recent $300 price hike, the Linton's aren't nearly as competitive.
@mychrisbd
@mychrisbd Жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing this.I just order your Patreon.
@porchfan
@porchfan Жыл бұрын
A really nice and thorough review. As a result, I subscribed. I have the Linton Speakers and enjoy them immensely. One comment with your review I do have is about the convolution and impulse response part. When you convolve the Impulse response of a device/speaker with a ‘pure’ input waveform or song, to predict or generate the sound that it will be produced at the output, convolution is a linear process. As a result, it will not provide any non-linearity characteristics of the speaker. By doing so, you’re assuming the speaker has no non-linear properties in both magnitude and phase. I suppose if the SPL level you’re at is low enough, that’s Ok since there are no active components in these speakers. That said, the matching networks can heat up and magnetics can saturate producing non-linear products. Full disclosure - I’m an Electrical Engineer although I don’t do a lot of work in the audio field. I’ve been doing similar work for a long time at Radio Frequencies for active devices such as cellular base station and handset PAs. My primary professional role over the past 12 years or so has been developing non-linear simulation techniques and algorithms/SW (for internal use only) to provide better non-linear estimations of the devices we build. Before we tape out a new PA or front-end module, it’s best if we have a real good idea on the expected performance. Understanding the non-linear response of our devices is basically the most important and difficult metric to get. Just wondering in the speaker / audio world, are there techniques and measurements methods (such as two tone IMD) or power swept AMAM/AMPM anechoic data that you could take into consideration that would provide a better characterization ? I suppose for most use, maybe it’s really not that big a deal to worry about the non-linear response of speakers. Anyway thanks again - great review
@fonjohnson1099
@fonjohnson1099 2 жыл бұрын
Great review! Data is important, but our ears have the final say since we all have a different perception of sound. (Why many pick Bose as #1 I guess.. 😏 😂) The ABC comparison was great for that. I can still hear pretty high in the frequency range, and many will fatigue my hearing quickly and give me a headache. I sold Klipsch and I like them, but I never could fall in love with the horn. The Wharfedale to me is smoother and more neutral. The comparison would definitely help me decide between the two. Now I need a comparison between the SVS Ultra, Def Tech 9060's and Emotiva T2+ 😂. I'm still trying to decide. Sadly, my home theater is also my listening room, so I need a "do all" speaker.. 😔
@pks_diy
@pks_diy 2 жыл бұрын
Great stuff. Also there is more measurements on the Erin's site, like distortion so read that as well.
@cremersalex
@cremersalex Жыл бұрын
Hope Erin will be in the position to review the Wharfedale Denton 85, which, BTW, is not the little brother of the Linton. I have both Linton 85 and Denton 85 and the two sound very different. The Denton has a lot more upper mids and treble, lots of clarity (great for movie dialogue) but can quickly become fatiguing with poor recordings/remasters. Oddly enough, Robinson & wife thought the Achille's heel of the Denton 85 is its lack of treble. What is weird as well is that the Dentons sound very different depending on how you connect them (single wire/single wire cross connection/bi-wire/). So, if anyone has a pair and you're not far located from Erin ...
@stevenswall
@stevenswall 2 жыл бұрын
Decent extension and passably even response. Glad this isn't purely a money grab for old style looks. Value wise I'd have to compare it with an IN-8 + WS12 for $1600 which is my current favorite before going to Genelec.
@walkerhollis
@walkerhollis Жыл бұрын
Erin, thanks for the review. I am looking for a high efficiency speaker that will match my old Polks at low volume level. Running NAD pre amp with a loudness)for low level) button and 150W amp. I am finding lower efficiency speakers (87.5) cannot deliver the bass until they are cranked up a bit. Would these be closer fit?
@colanitower
@colanitower Жыл бұрын
Great value for price indeed. I have Lintons and I found 2 things are important to let them shine: give them room to the back wall, and find the right match with an amplifier. Paired with a refurbished Denon PMA-1060 the Lintons are perfect. A very good system for the budget. With a higher-end Denon PMA-QS10 Mk2 however, bass is sometimes too much. It's like the Lintons can't keep up with that heavy amplifier's capabilities. Either way, no need for a subwoofer.
@nightman922
@nightman922 11 ай бұрын
What about pairing it with a Rotel A11 Tribute? Do you think this would match? Thinking of adding an active sub with this pairing so that it takes some strain away from the speaker+amp for the lower rangr
@colanitower
@colanitower 11 ай бұрын
@@nightman922 I have no experience with Rotel gear but on paper it looks like a good match. The only way to find out if it's so is have a listen to it
@andredaedone5
@andredaedone5 9 ай бұрын
In 1974 I paid 800 dollars for Infinity Towers. About 5000 in today's dollars so with that in mind 1500 for these speakers are nothing. In 1978 I bought the JBL centuries and same deal. I am ordering these speakers next week. Thanks for your unbiased opinion on the Model 5 vs the Lintons in your other video. I am going to power these with the Vidar2 Amo, Kara preamp, and Geshili Dac.
@bloodbathory5624
@bloodbathory5624 11 ай бұрын
Hi Sir, thank you for all these very informative reviews and your hard professional work. I have some questions about bass slam performance, if you could answer them. The lintons, you describe them having good overall bass slam ( even maybe not requiring a subwoofer ) but the f3 in the measurements is only 53hz. In your Elac DBR62 review, a speaker with much smaller cabinet and smaller bass woofer, it also has f3 on 53 hz. A huge speaker like Klipsch heresy both in cabinet and woofer dimensions, it has an f3 of 82 hz, in your review. So i am a bit comfused. Does size of cabinet and woofer matter or not for bass slam performance? Does a same f3 provide more bass slam for a bigger speaker compared to a smaller speaker ( if they both have their f3 at 53 hz for example ) ? Also i wanted to mention that almost all the active speakers you have reviewed have lower f3 than most passive ones despite their cabinet and woofer size. For example Kali in8v2 2way has an f3 at 39hz , big cabinet and woofer , but low price. JBL 4329p has an f3 at 31 hz !!! big in cabinet and woofer size but huge price. KEF ls50 wireless 2 has an f3 at 50 hz with a small cabinet and woofer but big price. Lastly klipsch nines have an f3 at 41 hz with a big cabinet and woofer size and not very big price. Even the little kef ls50 wireless 2 has lower f3 than the huge lintons. But the active speakers are backed by very big watts in internal amplification. So i was wondering if i get an expensive amplifier with bigs watts, big capacitor numbers and power supply VA numbers that has a strong bass slam affinity like the hegel h390, then maybe i can get for example the lintons to have a lower f3 than 53 hz? So can it increase the speakers bass slam ? Also the lintons in your review have a combination of min EPDR 1.7 and min impedance of 3.5 and sensitivity of 85 db and in your elac dbr62 review, that speaker has min EPDR 2.4 and min impedance 5.2 and sensitivity 84db and you mentioned that combination needs more current to work properly, so i was thinking since the linton has lower numbers on the impedance side and low sensitivity as well at 85db, maybe it needs a stronger amplifier like i mentioned above to be able to provide the optimal bass slam that it can provide, if not more? Sorry to tire you with this long essay, but i keep thinking why spend thousands of dollars on passive speakers and amplifiers and subwoofers if you can spend less money on a good big active speaker that has lower f3 than passive speakers and without needing to meddle with subwoofers ( which i think can be troublesome )? Is it because most active speakers are considered tools for studio work, and they are not meant for entertainment? But the klipsch nines are not described as a studio tool, and they have an f3 at 41hz which is impressive and at the same price of the lintons which have an f3 at 53 hz and they need an amplifier too, and possibly an expensive beefy amplifier to provide their best bass slam, so the klipsch nines could end up being much cheaper. Lastly i wanted to add that all the above comparisons i did are for the sake of bass slam and not other elements, is it almost the most important thing for me but i wouldnt want to meddle with subwoofers for various reasons. I would really appreciate it if you took the time to read this ridiculous essay and provide your opinion. Thanks again !!!
@markpocock183
@markpocock183 2 жыл бұрын
Nice review Erin, and they look like great speakers. Found the sound clips very interesting. I note that this is the anechoic on axis response. I suppose the impulse response for the estimated in room response is not available?
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 2 жыл бұрын
That is correct. Currently no EIR convolution possible. Though, I am looking into options. Mainly, though, when I do this, we can expect the sound will be much different than the original speaker and that will confuse/taint the purpose of the example. It's a tricky thing to do to present sound clips because there really is no perfect way.
@jasonkillsformomy
@jasonkillsformomy 2 жыл бұрын
Erin, a cool idea would be to show short audio clips of peaks and nulls what they sound like vs without them at specific different points in the FR. At least from say 80-100hz upwards. For example like the null 1KHZ snare sound of this speaker and compare it to another speaker where its flat or peaky at that region. Idea is not to do this with every speaker, but get a general rule of how different peaks and nulls sound compared to flat in different parts of the FR. When you test a speaker that has a null or peak you could use it a against a flat or flatter baseline. Different speakers has nulls and peaks at different places, unless their flat of course. So with every speaker test you could take a small clip and with the amount of speakers you test soon enough you would have covered the hole FR. The reason for this of course would be to educate people how to evaluate speakers by listening to them. Not only so they could learn how listening and measured FR collaborates so that a person can "measure" with his ears so they can say "this speaker sounds bright", but also because of this they can better understand why they like or don't like the sound of specific speakers which in term in their future makes listening to and buying speakers easier. P.S. Sorry of such a long post.
@AntoG4RS
@AntoG4RS Жыл бұрын
Great review! I love how those speakers sound! I am only wondering how they can fit my room design.. As for size and look I was interested in KEF Q750 but I didn't find any "scientific" review... Did You ever listen to them? I really would like to know your opinion on them. It would be great to know what you think of KEF Q750..
@j.f.johnson7843
@j.f.johnson7843 2 жыл бұрын
I bought these speakers 2 weeks ago. They are perfect for me. I love them and can listen to them for hours. I replaced a pair of “high end” speakers that cost $600 more than the Wharfedales. Now, my issue is how to sell my old speakers.
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