Disney Villains are a very strong brand that is recognized by all, but sometimes there are those who have something more if a story doesn't want or needs a different view.
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@NinthShinigami2 ай бұрын
Silver is one of the components I love most about Treasure Planet. His dynamic with Jim and Jim himself always brings me back to that movie and idc what anyone says, it’s one of Disney’s best narratives and makes it one of my all time favorite Disney movies 🔥
@a.jthomas61322 ай бұрын
Same goes with Jim Hawkins.
@antusFireNova642 ай бұрын
The relationship between Silver and jim is basically the heart of the movie
@NinthShinigami2 ай бұрын
@@antusFireNova64 pretty much yea lol
@thunderpantz2 ай бұрын
And his character design by Glenn Keane is awesome. I used to watch the scene with him preparing stew frame by frame just to see that Swiss Army arm of his go.
@1992disney2 ай бұрын
@@thunderpantz Yeah! That scene was so unbelievable and mind-blowing back then and it still is to this day! Wish we could get more animated movies like Treasure Planet that do that! 🤩
@a.jthomas61322 ай бұрын
Long john Silver (Treasure Planet) is the perfect Anti-Villain for Disney, and he is the one of the few rare Disney Villains that has alot of heart in your previous videos. As a grown man who grew up without a father, I can relate to Jim since he has to deal with real serious issues of an absentee parent and abandonment. We seen him as a rebellious thrill seeker who, like many of us, is looking for an adventures and he gets in trouble most of the time. But over the course his story, he meets Silver who steps in to the a father figure role despite being captain of his pirate crew, Silver chooses his love for the cabin boy over the treasure, and teaches Jim the valuable life lessons such as taking the helm and chart your own course. And stick to it, no matter the squalls. Disney really needs to make more father-son dynamics like this one!
@1992disney2 ай бұрын
I agree 100%. It's extremely rare to see Disney create a morally-gray antagonist like Silver and do it so well. Which is a shame 'cause for obvious reasons, Disney will never attempt that sort of thing ever again. I mean, Elsa was originally-planned be another anti-villain and she could've been just as awesome as Silver. But of course, because of a certain "powerful, uplifting, and inspiring" song, she ended up being a "misunderstood heroine" instead. What a massive mistake and wasted opportunity that was on Disney's part. 🤦♀
@paige84532 ай бұрын
I agree wholeheartedly with that. As a woman all the sisters and mother/daughter, and romance are great. It would be amazing if we could get another father/son dynamic mother like Treasure Planet or just more male-led adventure movies too. I love a good male-led fantasy adventure.
@jamestolbert18562 ай бұрын
@@paige8453 me too but I do enjoy women having some equal screen time too but not where they have ALL the attention
@nil9812 ай бұрын
There's a reason they don't. I'm sure of it.
@a.jthomas61322 ай бұрын
@@nil981 And what is their reasons?
@Dora-xi5ob2 ай бұрын
In Alma’s eyes, she thought that they’d be happy as long as they had a roof over their heads. She says this in her apology “I lost sight of who our miracle was for” or the entire metaphor of the movie: she is concerned about the house itself breaking while Mirabel sees the house as the people inside of it who are broken. Abuela wasn’t able to communicate emotionally with anyone until Mirabel taught her how
@Shadowgod10002 ай бұрын
It's not that Mirabel taught her how, it's that Mirabel challenged her perspective and after seeing the aftermath, she was able to understand how broken she was inside and how she let that deep into everyone.
@MoonPhantom2 ай бұрын
I don't think we're giving Alma nearly enough credit either I mean think about this? She was a grieving single mother of THREE infants! She actually managed to raise them well, with amazing values, they are all polite and have wonderful personalities, able to form loving relationships. They clearly never had to go hungry, unclothed or without a roof over their head. She took care of them, fed them, clothed them, taught them values and the value of family. I know, Bruno slipped through the cracks... but he clearly had some mental issues that Alma was NOT equipped to handle by herself, and there was no therapist around at all to help her out. And even then Bruno is STILL an incredible loving, loyal, and all around good person who has no hatred in his heart. Because that's not what he was taught by his mother, he was never taught to hate. And he was loved, even if he wasn't understood. So honestly... Alma is a hero if you ask me! And as for her NOT speaking about Bruno? I feel like the indication is because loosing him was so traumatic for her that she can't face it. She knows Pedro is dead for sure, cause she saw it. She doesn't know what happened to Bruno, and addressing it will force her to confront the possibility he may really be gone, instead of just assuming he ran away and is living happily out there somewhere. So yeah... I think Alma is the hero of the story, not the villain.
@KL-ki8dbАй бұрын
@@MoonPhantom She is not the villain, but she is still the antagonizing force to Mirabel. Point to note is that antaongists does not always equal villains. She is more like an anti-hero where she has good intentions, but makes poor choices to fulfill those goals.
@MoonPhantomАй бұрын
@@KL-ki8db It is correct to say that yeah, she acts as Mirabel's obstacle when we see the story from Mirabel's point of view. But even Mirabel suddenly comes to the realization that the only reason they are all there is literately because of Alma, she gave birth to three children and raised them well thus making Mirabel's existence even possible in the first place. Which is the real Miracle. And Mirabel's big moment is when she finally SEES Alma for who she truly is. A woman who is in deep pain, but really did the very best she could. Who is in constant fear of losing again, but that fear comes from love. And it's when Mirabel can see Alma for who she truly is, not an antagonist but a hero, what Alma truly feels, that Mirabel can let go too and embrace Alma, the two now seeing each other for who they really are. Two flawed women who are actually just doing their best to help the family the only ways they know how.
@OpticalSorcerer2 ай бұрын
I really hoped Magnifico would be a nice turn for Disney to have a trend of villains with a point, who challenge the protagonists' perspective rather than simply being selfish.
@mr.darkassassin79972 ай бұрын
I agree
@Shadowgod10002 ай бұрын
I didn't even see it, I heard Wish was nothing special, which is unsurprising. How do you make Frollo, then lose all ability to make villains that are even slightly menacing, or effective.
@fusionwing4208Ай бұрын
Frollo was disney really risking everything, that whole movie is very dark for a disney film. Magnifico I was hoping would be a villain with a point but not quite redeemable. The whole idea of controlling wishes does make sense in the grand scheme of things, when you consider how some wishes are truly horrible. Iirc the original idea also had his wife as a main villain, so both of them were evil.
@OpticalSorcererАй бұрын
@@fusionwing4208 Fun fact: Amaya's voice actor confirmed that when she first auditioned, Amaya was the villain while Magnifico was a good king (meaning the villain couple was either before this or in between her original auditions and callbacks when Amaya became good). Magnifico kinda reminded me of Alma and Triton the way he was traumatized and had a reason for feeling the way he did, but took it too far. While not a villain, I could see him as the antagonist solely for Asha's different perspective.
@sebastiantrias15292 ай бұрын
Long John Silver is one of the best character ever written.
@a.jthomas61322 ай бұрын
I agreed
@winry23572 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t say he’s the best ever, but he is very good and very well written.
@JinxNightcore2 ай бұрын
Ikr
@VultureWarrior2 ай бұрын
Sliver is my favorite Anti-villain of all time, because of his personality and his father-son relationship with Jim.
@lilac32662 ай бұрын
finally someone who recognizes alma is an antagonist not a villain! villains goals are evil the antagonistic just blocks the protagonist.
@viviennemorgan72172 ай бұрын
yeah
@lilac32662 ай бұрын
@@viviennemorgan7217the amount of people who don’t know the difference is insane
@viviennemorgan72172 ай бұрын
@@lilac3266 yeah
@Yellowguy06192 ай бұрын
Fagin?
@a.jthomas61322 ай бұрын
Tod and Cooper's relationship in The Fox and the Hound is both bittersweet but beautiful friendship!
@greenhydra102 ай бұрын
Antivillains have pretty much always been some of my favorite characters. They might be doing something wrong, but they aren't bad. They're trying to do something good, but have no qualms about how they achieve it.
@beccacroce73802 ай бұрын
Amos insisting on chasing Tod also ended up getting his lead dog Chief hit by a train. While it was bad judgement on Chief's part chasing Tod on the train tracks, he wouldn't have been there if Amos didn't give chase.
@user-ie8om9rr2g2 ай бұрын
Hunting is Amos' job and how he survives. He had no idea that one of his dogs and the fox were friends. To him this fox is just making trouble for him and his dogs. He also stated that he won't kill Tod as long he doesn't goes on his property. Well Tod keeps going on it to see Copper. It is only when Chief gets hurt that he really do becomes a bit crazy.
@Ozzygirl172 ай бұрын
Note: Denahi throws his spear the second he processed Kenai was the bear after Sitka arrives.
@colleenmueller7556Ай бұрын
What makes these characters so impactful is that they're very human. Not all bad, not all good, but somewhere in the middle.
@Unsweetened86182 ай бұрын
Treasure Planet is underrated
@a.jthomas61322 ай бұрын
Kinda ashamed that we never get to see a sequel where Jim becomes a cadet and being a student at the academy.
@AnimaVox_2 ай бұрын
@@a.jthomas6132There's concept art available too. The story could've really lent itself to a series about Jim's adventures.
@thelittleal12122 ай бұрын
The brother bear Antagonist has got to be one of the most Underrated antagonists of Disney. He definitely needs more appreciation. Even if the movie was meh
@Shadowgod10002 ай бұрын
You mean Denahi? He was just trying to avenge his family, he didn't know his brother was turned into a bear. Also that movie wasn't good.
@thelittleal12122 ай бұрын
@@Shadowgod1000 ye, the movie not being good was definitely the main reason why he gets easily ignored. Besides that, I think he was the best part of the movie, he kept it serious and you can sympathize with his struggles of trying avenge his family
@Shadowgod10002 ай бұрын
@@thelittleal1212 Well, that's because he kept the serious tone for most of the movie, when Kenai turns into a bear, there's just a massive tonal shift and it's just weird. Also, on another note, it's one of a few examples of non-white characters turning into animals, Emperor's New Grove, Brother Bear, The Princess and the Frog, and it's not even like a side character, it's the titular character.
@thelittleal12122 ай бұрын
@@Shadowgod1000 didn’t realize that but oh well.
@a.jthomas61322 ай бұрын
If Big Hero 6 ever gets a sequel, would Robert Callaghan"s role be switch to an anti-villain after realizing that he has taken ambitions to extract his revenge for his daughter's demise way too far? The first movie kind of didn't do well how Yokai is written as a tragic supervillain. Only to be shown his change of heart in the Big Hero 6 Animated Series.
@thekoifishcoyote87622 ай бұрын
I feel like he'd try to be a hero in a sequel; trying to atone for what he did.
@ZazzelTheGamer2 ай бұрын
Watch the TV series, I think he made an appearance if I'm not mistaken.
@Shadowgod10002 ай бұрын
While I think Big Hero 6 would be fine to get a sequel since there's a lot you can do there, I really just want Disney to do something original, and good, like when they made Encanto, which really feels like a fluke since this decade has been pretty bad, and the 2010s were good overall.
@JenamDrag0n2 ай бұрын
I see Treasure Planet's John Silver, I click
@kira-dk2mx2 ай бұрын
Back when Disney used anti-heroes or even sympathetic villains sparingly, instead of defaulting to them every single movie now. Like, not everyone has complex layers. Some people are just assholes who want to rule the world.
@yay298232 ай бұрын
I think pure evil villains should be used sparingly, and have more morally gray characters, not the other way around. Still, since it's Disney we're talking about, I think the traditional villain works best for them, since they've made many iconic ones.
@kira-dk2mx14 күн бұрын
@@yay29823 You're right.
@user-ie8om9rr2g2 ай бұрын
But yeah, one do have to remember that everybody in this family was going through something so it's kinda unfair to say that one person was worse than the other. Alma lost her husband in a terrible way and was forced to not only raises her children alone but to also help out her neighbors in building an new town which led them looking to her for all of their problems. Julieta and Agustin had to deal with not only trying to get their youngest daughter to see that she is good enough by being herself but also had to learn that their two oldest daughters kept a huge secret from them for years instead of going to them for help. Pepa have to learn to control her stress and temper which is not an easy thing for her. She also had to deal with her brother being missing. She and Felix both also had to learn that their own two children kept a secret from them for years as well. Bruno wants his family to be proud but is uncertain how to do this. Isabela and Mirabel were equally both jealous of each other. Mirabel sees Isabela as someone who never had problems and Isabela in return is jealous of the freedom that Mirabel have. Isabela also had to deal with an unwanted marriage while Mirabel is trying to find her place in the family. Dolores have to deal with the man of her dreams possibility marrying to her cousin. Luisa wants to make her family proud but is also carrying onto too much of other people problems and have to learn to let others take some of the burden off without being ashamed. Camilo is trying to find who he is. Antonio wants to make his family proud but isn't sure how he will do this. What makes the film is seeing how all of the family members finally start to talk about their problems together, deals with them together and creates an even stronger bond than before.
@Charles-72 ай бұрын
silver had learned that life far more priceless then all that treasure combine in the core there, even if it's just one life.
@Yellowguy06192 ай бұрын
Please hear me out on this, in my point of view, another example of an anti-villain is Fagin from Oliver and Company. His motivation is to save himself and his dogs to pay off Sykes, but the way he tries to pay it off is not good. He teaches his dogs to steal other's belongings while doing the same, he plans to ransom Oliver to a rich family to pay off Sykes, and he gets his dogs AND JENNY into trouble that he is held responsible for. Sure, in the end, he doesn't go with his plan and lends Oliver back, but it was his actions that got her kidnapped in the first place, and once again, his dogs have to save her and he doesn't do anything until the end. Not to mention when he gives Oliver back to Jenny, he isn't honest and tells her the truth, he straight up lies and does not admit to his mistake. Plus, after he saves his dogs and Jenny from Sykes, he gambles with the butler and runs off stealing an apple. While Fagin does care about his dogs, Oliver, and Jenny to some degree, it's his own actions that lead them into trouble. We can sympathize with him or we don't. I feel like Fagin gets overshadowed by Sykes and his Doberman since they're the central antagonists, but people tend to forget how Fagin is also one of the bad guys. It also makes you wonder what Fagin did that got him into debt in the first place.
@ArendAlphaEagle2 ай бұрын
While it's true that Fagin is far from the most moral and a good candidate for the "anti-villain" title, I wouldn't say he's one of the bad guys either, as he's far more sympathetic than Sykes, other similar amoral characters from Disney's lineup, and especially the original Fagin from the original Oliver Twist novel by Charles Dickens.
@DamnQuilty2 ай бұрын
Silver is one of my all time favorite characters ever.
@adrianmorrison46782 ай бұрын
Can you please talk about Disney sidekicks and what makes them important for the films? I also think we need to learn more about the rest of Sony animation and how it evolved following the release of Spiderman Beyond the Spider-verse. Lastly, maybe you could do a video about the problems with the rise of girl bosses in recent films of Disney plus.
@SilvanaPuris23102 ай бұрын
Yeah, I would also like a top or analysis of each Disney sidekick, they are also important in their films
@winry23572 ай бұрын
Brother Bear is such a good movie. I still don’t understand why people don’t like it.
@MissSirenita2 ай бұрын
Treasure Planet is by far my favorite movie ever ever ever. It’s so well written and it brings out all these emotions out of me every time. Plus, shout out to Goo Goo Dolls Lead singer, John Rzeznik, for singing such a beautiful song ❤ love this movie
@katlynbarth92822 ай бұрын
Amos is probably the dude who shot Bambi's mom.
@nicolascangele55482 ай бұрын
i really miss the villains
@MLittleBrony2 ай бұрын
moused over the thumbnail, saw Brother Bear, that's all i needed.
@deangartshore57962 ай бұрын
Treasure planet has both a not completely evil anti villain like a lot of modern Disney films in John Silver And a traditional evil like the older Disney movies in Scroop So it makes the best of both worlds
@nicholassims98372 ай бұрын
Someone made a detailed 44 min video on how Amos Slade is an anti villain
@user-gi8pk9uc7q2 ай бұрын
It makes sense, if there can be anti-heroes, why can't there be anti-villains?
@SPAnComCat2 ай бұрын
We need more Anti-Villains in the Disney Universe like this in the Video!
@a.jthomas61322 ай бұрын
And more father-son dynamic relationships.
@SPAnComCat2 ай бұрын
@@a.jthomas6132 I Absolutely Agree with that! Brilliant Idea! Thank you!
@a.jthomas61322 ай бұрын
@@SPAnComCat i do not understand why Disney never both using this since after Treasure Planet.
@SPAnComCat2 ай бұрын
@@a.jthomas6132 Me Neither. UnFortunately....
@AlanomalyOfficial2 ай бұрын
I guess this one falls into a grey area as to whether it counts as animated (the character is indeed animated but the movie is filmed on location) but in any case: Kron from Dinosaur. The actual villains of Dinosaur are, of course, the Carnotaurs, just predators acting on instinct, as most dinosaur media does. But in terms of an antagonistic character, there's Kron. He's not inherently a villain, he's just cold. He wants to get his herd to the Nesting Grounds, and does it by any means necessary. Little resting resulting in travelling by both day and night, across a desert mind you in which there is very little water, and dismissing those that fall behind as too weak to survive. In fact, he describes those who can survive as "deserving to live." The implication is that this is what Kron has grown accustomed to through years of being a part of this herd and eventually being its leader. He sees it as survival of the fittest. He dismisses Aladar at first due to him being the young blood, and later shows to be watching Aladar and Neera's growing relationship with a considerate eye rather than skeptical or aggressive, but becomes hostile once Aladar challenges his authority. He becomes ego driven when they reach the blocked off canyon, refusing to find another way around in favor of climbing over the mountain; even when the herd takes Aladar's lead, he insists on climbing the mountain himself almost as if just to prove it can be done. Aladar never reciprocates the dynamic, only challenging Kron where necessary but not on a personal level, only for the sake of the herd, and even mourns with Neera when Kron dies during the final fight.
@liamconnollyst2 ай бұрын
I think that the best of this lot have to be John Silver and Amos Slade, as the remaining 3 are decent ones.
@mrsturtevant12 ай бұрын
As a kid, I always just thought Amos was a villain. Wow I never even would have thought of Denahi as an anti-villain, or even any kind of villain
@user-ie8om9rr2g2 ай бұрын
Nah. Hunting is Amos' job and how he survives. He had no idea that one of his dogs and the fox were friends. To him this fox is just making trouble for him and his dogs. He also stated that he won't kill Tod as long he doesn't goes on his property. Well Tod keeps going on it to see Copper. It is only when Chief gets hurt that he really do becomes a bit crazy.
@mrsturtevant12 ай бұрын
I wasn't thinking that as a kid though. I need to revisit The Fox and the Hound at some point
Goob is another anti villain also The team from Atlantis Sir Ecter and Kay Rabbit
@dinalfos52 ай бұрын
See, one issue I have with Amos Slade, is that while he is indeed a repentant villain, who sees the error of his ways and resolves to give up his villainous, vengeful pursuit, I can't really call him a proper redeemed villain, as he faced no repercussions for his crimes other than his injured foot, and didn't do anything to make up for them. He didn't become good, he just stopped being evil. And his actions were pretty heinous other than just trying to kill Todd. He intentionally and wilfully broke into a nature preserve by cutting through the fence with wire cutters, verbally acknowledging what he was doing out loud, he then lined the nature preserve with bear traps, and set a fire inside it as well, and then got a brown bear, who was also legally protected inside the reserve, killed by his reckless actions (okay so maybe we don't know for certain the bear died after it fell, but it's easy to assume it did). And yet at the end of the film, he's sitting on his porch suffering no consequences other than his injured foot and the mild annoyance of Widow Tweed trying to tend to his wounds. He honestly deserves, at least legally speaking, to be arrested for his wanton disregard for nature. And yeah, sure, legally speaking, John Silver suffered no legal repercussions for his crimes either. But he both made up for it by saving Jim's life at the expense of the treasure, and was forgiven by Jim in the end, finding moral absolution by the protagonist if not legal absolvement. Slade did nothing to redeem himself other than to not kill Todd. He didn't save Todd, he didn't risk his life to save Copper or anything like that, he just chose not to kill Todd, and only then because he would have had to have killed Copper to get to Todd. Hardly the most heroic choice, just not the most villainous one. His pursuit of vengeance was willfully criminal and reckless, and endangered many innocent, and legally protected animals beyond just Todd. And I don't think Todd even ever forgave him, and if he did it was only for Copper's sake. So Amos Slade may be a villain who chose to stop being evil, but that doesn't mean I think he was redeemed.
Can I ask, what do you think of Kron from Dinosaur? Would he be considered a villain or anti-villain?
@Sillylittleman445672 ай бұрын
John Silver is my favorite Disney villain because of how he develops an almost father-son relationship with Jim Hawkins but when he doesn’t commit to the whole journey, John makes the hard decision to leave Jim for Treasure Planet, then he ultimately decides to sacrifice the riches for something more important, the relationship he built with Jim Hawkins, I feel like perfectly encapsulates “the treasure was the friends we made along the way” in a way that isn’t cheesy and is meaningful. Love Treasure Planet.
@lukasmiller48613 күн бұрын
Kerchek in Tarzan is a great Disney anti villian.
@HexNotGone2 ай бұрын
BRO I GREW UP WITH THE FOX AND THE HOUND I FEEL SO OLD AND I'M ONLY 14-
@anselmareich35492 ай бұрын
John Silver is soft for one (1) kid.
@MrGabeanator2 ай бұрын
I always wondered if John Silver was Glen Keanes return to animating villians or not and I still do
@1992disney2 ай бұрын
The other villains Keane animated were Ratigan in The Great Mouse Detective (another underrated gem directed by Ron Clements & John Musker), the bear near the end of The Fox and the Hound, and Sykes in Oliver & Company.
@MrGabeanator2 ай бұрын
@@1992disneyprecisely
@MrGabeanator2 ай бұрын
exactly@@1992disney
@jwhaler822 ай бұрын
I have a theory concerning Abuela. Abuela doesn’t hate Mirabel because she doesn’t have a gift, she hates Mirabel because the house demands it. Abuela believes that the house is some kind of deity and that only by obeying the house’s will to the letter, will the house protect the family from the invaders. When the house didn’t give Mirabel a gift, Abuela assumed that the house was saying that it didn’t want Mirabel to be part of the family. Possibly, even sensed some sort of evil inside of Mirabel and realized she was a threat to the family. As such, Abuela has gone out of her way to hide Mirabel from the world and sees every good deed Mirabel does as a threat to the family. I really hope this theory is true. Encanto would make so much more sense if it were true.
@user-ie8om9rr2g2 ай бұрын
Nah. Alma doesn't hates Mirabel or any of the other family members. Her whole deal is that she and her children were given a second chance in life and she was paranoid over losing her home a second time. When Mirabel didn't get powers to her it was a symbol that her worst fears may comes true. As Bulda from Frozen pointed out "People make bad choices if they're mad or scared or stressed but throw a little love their way, and you'll bring out their best. True love brings out the best".
@user-ie8om9rr2g2 ай бұрын
We do need to keep in mind that hunting is Amos' job and how he survives. He had no idea that one of his dogs and the fox were friends. To him this fox is just making trouble for him and his dogs. He also stated that he won't kill Tod as long he doesn't goes on his property. Well Tod keeps going on it to see Cooper. It is only when Chief gets hurt that he really do becomes a bit crazy. However we see throughout the whole film that he is truly fond fond of both of his dogs. AS for Encanto, There's no villains in the film. It's about a family who while loves each other don't have the best skills in discussing their own problems to each other and learn to do so over the course of the film. Everyone is relatable and is going through their own thing. But I see lot of bad things about Alma and Pepa the most so I'll uses them as examples. Alma doesn't hates Mirabel or any of the other family members. Her whole deal is that she and her children were given a second chance in life and she was paranoid over losing her home a second time. When Mirabel didn't get powers to her it was a symbol that her worst fears may comes true. As Bulda from Frozen pointed out "People make bad choices if they're mad or scared or stressed but throw a little love their way, and you'll bring out their best. True love brings out the best". Meanwhile as for Pepa she may had been mad at Bruno over the wedding thing but it is also largely hinted that she is even more upset over Bruno just leaving the family without a word and this is actually a reasonable point. It is hinted that Bruno leaving actually frightened the family and the reason why they don't speak of him is because they are hurt over the subject. I loves Bruno but he did made a mistake over that. That part really is on him.
@TerryB012 ай бұрын
Here nice and early for once. I liked Slade because he had dogs. I was a simple kid.
@mr.darkassassin79972 ай бұрын
Hey Aldone Have u seen the new kung gu panda movie? You should make a review video
@ZGuy0fSci2 ай бұрын
Or to say, 'Good Guys vs Bad Guys, and if "Villian" really fitting in what way vs one who is villianous but if really a bad-guy vs if a bad guy , etc. Is a worth while question. Same as for where when if a or the "Hero" is a good guy or the good-guy., the likes.
@chonkeyshonkey2 ай бұрын
Can you talk about Kron from Dinosaur?
@djflapjack474424 күн бұрын
Does Joy from Inside Out count as an anti-villain? She had good intentions for Riley, but by blocking out sadness caused her to be emotionally unavailable
@user-jw5qj8kv2y2 ай бұрын
Gaston in ``Beauty and the Beast'' was also a villain who could not be called completely evil.
@PaulonTheBrave2 ай бұрын
Eh he far from an anti-villain though as there is nothing sympathetic about him
@thekoifishcoyote87622 ай бұрын
Gaston is weird. After getting rejected he just sits and pouts until his song, and isn't really a villain until then.
@johanforsenberg41802 ай бұрын
Abuella IS a villain though. She's not listening or caring about what anyone wants except herself and what she thinks "needs" to be done. My eyes rolled out of my head when she got redeemed.
@lilac32662 ай бұрын
still an antagonist. For a character to be villainous they have to be consciously choosing to be bad knowing they are bad. Hence why alma is an antagonist not a villain. Nobody has told her their true feelings mirabel and her sisters all have songs about bottling up their feelings and not telling anyone and the same applies to the rest of the family. When alma is told what she’s doing is wrong by mirabel she actively apologized and vows to change why? because she’s an antagonist and not a villain. An antagonist is just someone who blocks the Protagonist but aren’t evil.
@johanforsenberg4180Ай бұрын
@@lilac3266 if a person is so selfish and self absorbed that they don't see that they're hurting the people they profess to love - to the point of driving her own son into exile - that's still villainous to the people being abused.
@lilac3266Ай бұрын
@@johanforsenberg4180 it’s almost like the whole point is the fact the madrigals all hide their pain
@johanforsenberg4180Ай бұрын
@@lilac3266 pretty sure the message is that you don't need powers to be special. Also we were talking about Abuella. Try and stay on topic. 😉 Also just to contest what you said: Exactly. The characters can't talk to Abuella cause she is a monster. Who do they open up to? The person who actually cares about people and not what people can do for her.
@lilac3266Ай бұрын
@@johanforsenberg4180 it’s ok to say you didn’t understand the movie
@lukasmiller48613 күн бұрын
Please do a movie on Tarzan.
@jamestoney93382 ай бұрын
Would you call Cobra Bubbles in Lilo and Stitch an anti villain?
@Neevkl_72 ай бұрын
I think Captain Gantu can also be seen as an anti villain
@user-ie8om9rr2g2 ай бұрын
Nah. He was more an frustration for Nani than anything else since to her eyes he is who will takes Lilo away if she doesn't provides an good home. For to everybody else it is perfectly clear that he is just doing his job and that he doesn't really want to separates the sisters anymore than she does.
@IAmCruent2 ай бұрын
Nobody ever talks about Iago in Aladdin 2
@Shadowgod10002 ай бұрын
Putting Abuela on the cover of an anti-villains video eithe makes me think you don't know what anti-villains are or you're trying to make it sounds like You're talking about non-villianous antagonists, which is still stupid.
@yay298232 ай бұрын
In my perspective, anti-villains are still generally on the bad side while having redeeming traits in the same way anti-heroes are on the good side despite taking some questionable actions. Alma was a bad mother and grandmother but still tried to be a good leader for the people of Encanto, and she immediately apologized and took full responsibility for her behavior once she suffered the consequences of her actions when Mirabel finally called her out and casita was destroyed.
@Shadowgod10002 ай бұрын
@@yay29823 An anti-villain may have noble goals, but their means to attain that goal are villainous or evil. An anti-villain is not specifically an antagonist, and an antagonist doesn't make them a villain, or anti-villain. Abuela isn't bad, she's just doing the wrong thing, thinking it will help. She is misguided, but not villainous. Here's a quick way to think about it, an anti-hero is someone playing the hero, but not for heroic reasons. Deadpool often does the right thing, but it's usually for self-serving purposes. An anti-villain is the opposite, they are someone being a villain, but for usually good and or understandable reasons. Magneto is a big one that is often in this category, he does a lot of bad stuff, but it's usually in the service of trying to make the lives of mutants better. He is very much a villain, but in service of the greater good. Thanos wanting to kill off half the population of the universe so that the other half may survive, is another example of that. Alma is actively trying to do what she sees is right, and unfortunately for everyone, it's not good, but it's not villainous or evil, it's just antagonistic. Thanos and Magneto engage in things that are villainous, things they know are wrong, but to them it's all for the greater good. Alma thinks she's doing the right thing, and doesn't realize her actions are problematic.
@viviennemorgan72172 ай бұрын
i'm glad that you know that alma isn't a villain but misunderstood she has truama losing pedro in her flashback scene where she left with the triplets.
@viviennemorgan72172 ай бұрын
while pedro got killed.
@user-ie8om9rr2g2 ай бұрын
@@viviennemorgan7217 There's no villains in the film. It's about a family who while loves each other don't have the best skills in discussing their own problems to each other and learn to do so over the course of the film. Everyone is relatable and is going through their own thing. But I see lot of bad things about Alma and Pepa the most so I'll uses them as examples. Alma doesn't hates Mirabel or any of the other family members. Her whole deal is that she and her children were given a second chance in life and she was paranoid over losing her home a second time. When Mirabel didn't get powers to her it was a symbol that her worst fears may comes true. As Bulda from Frozen pointed out "People make bad choices if they're mad or scared or stressed but throw a little love their way, and you'll bring out their best. True love brings out the best". Meanwhile as for Pepa she may had been mad at Bruno over the wedding thing but it is also largely hinted that she is even more upset over Bruno just leaving the family without a word and this is actually a reasonable point. It is hinted that Bruno leaving actually frightened the family and the reason why they don't speak of him is because they are hurt over the subject. I loves Bruno but he did made a mistake over that. That part really is on him.
@viviennemorgan72172 ай бұрын
@@user-ie8om9rr2g i know that duh, i know that there's no villain in encanto and the reason why alma is harsh towards mirabel and the triplets is because of her fear of losing her family and it's hate not hates and it's love not loves. But the reason why bruno left is because of alma but guess what he never left he stayed in his room all this time and the townspeople are making him into a bad person, with this guy saying that his stomach will grow large, the lady with her fish said that bruno predicted that her fish will die and the priest said that he will lose his hair because bruno told him that, but he came out of his room and told pepa that none of what he said that him predicting rain on her wedding is true, he said that she's sweating, because of nervousness or just nerves.
@user-ie8om9rr2g2 ай бұрын
@@viviennemorgan7217 I'm just saying that everybody acts like Bruno never did anything wrong in his whole life. You can't do that since it shows that this entire family is capable of making mistakes. Even Mirabel had made mistakes due to choosing to see what she wants to see with Isabella and trying too hard in proving her worth in the family. We have to be open that no matter how well-intentioned he may be Bruno isn't without faults either. That's human. I mean maybe Bruno was extra insensitive and took other people's words more seriously than what it really was? Maybe he could had voiced his opinions to his family more? Maybe he could had tried to understand more why his mother was acting the way she was? Maybe he could had told his visions to the townspeople in a better way since it is shown he is very socially awkward.
@viviennemorgan72172 ай бұрын
@@user-ie8om9rr2g bruno never did anything wrong and he never went to the townspeople in town, they're wrong, mirabel tries to prove herself to alma that she's trustworthy to her grandmother, isabela made a mistake talking down and bullying mirabel all because she doesn't have any powers.
@jaypee1162 ай бұрын
Hello Aldone
@danejenkinson-tv9kv2 ай бұрын
We are the Anti-Villain League. An ultra-secret organization dedicated to fighting crime on a global scale. Rob a bank, we’re not interested. Terrorize someone, not our deal. But you want to melt the polar ice caps or vaporize Mount Fuji or even steal the moon. Then we notice.
Grandma Alma is full villain, no joke. My family dealt with crappy relatives like her and she never deserved redemption
@lilac32662 ай бұрын
y’all need to realize that you’re projecting.
@1992disney2 ай бұрын
@@lilac3266 That's funny because YOU'VE BEEN DOING THE SAME THING THAT YOU CLAIM PEOPLE LIKE ME INCLUDING THE PERSON YOU REPLIED TO'S DOING. 🤡
@yay298232 ай бұрын
@@lilac3266That's what I've been saying. People don't realize Alma did what their crappy relatives didn't: She changed, putting the blame on no one but on herself and trying to be better for the sake of the family. Then again, I can't blame those people, they are very obviously traumatized. It's okay to dislike fictional characters
@1992disney2 ай бұрын
@@yay29823 You're just as blind, ignorant, and delusional as lilac3266.
@hubertswie74382 ай бұрын
i em NOT first lol
@1992disney2 ай бұрын
I 100% disagree with Alma being an anti-villain. What she did throughout Encanto was so cruel and unforgivable that it can't ever be overlooked. I mean, how does being emotionally-abusive towards their entire family for years and years all because something horrible happened to them many years ago, treating one of their own grandkids so shamefully just because said grandkid doesn't have a gift, forcing one of their own granddaughters into marriage with a man that she actually doesn't love, and exiling one of their own grownup kids all because said grownup kid has an ability that's seen by everyone as both life-ruining and especially dangerous, make that person sympathetic, misunderstood, and especially relatable? The answer is: it doesn't. Not even her apology at the end of the movie was enough to redeem herself (not to mention the fact that the same apology only comes off as artificial). The movie tries so hard to get the audience to feel really bad for her, but anyone with common sense and a conscience knows that trauma's not an excuse for one's crappy behavior and toxicity. So the movie tries to promote victimhood that way. And when you think about it, the movie suffers almost all of the same issues as Frozen (and to some extent, Frozen 2). Which means it's a bad and overrated one that somehow became insanely-popular worldwide (Disney+ made the film the way it is today). I really don't get how you're able to see the many, many severe flaws of the whole Frozen franchise, but not in Encanto as well. In conclusion, Alma is a villain, but both the film and Disney don't want everyone to see her as such.
@lilac32662 ай бұрын
Alma is an antagonist not a villain. Villains have evil motivations they are PURPOSELY devious. An antagonist is just someone who goes against the protagonist it doesn’t mean they’re evil they just clash. A big theme in encanto is the importance of communication and it’s mentioned in most of the songs that they all keep their pain down. How do you know you’re hurting your family if they never tell you or act different? Dos oruguitas is never used as an excuse or a way to justify almas actions. Alma herself chooses to go back to that river because she cares about mirabel. imagine having to go back to a place you haven’t seen in 50 years and your last memory of that place is begging for your children’s lives whilst you watch your husband die in front of you… again she chooses to do this and it’s not even about the magic. She takes full responsibility even assures mirabel nothing is her fault and genuinely apologizes. Mirabel is Never shown forgiving her and neither is the rest of the family. Mirabel empathizes and understands her grandmother but she never forgives her, she just chooses to allow her to rebuild that relationship. The last song is a montage which implies time has passed and even so nothing shown indicated alma was forgiven. Alma madrigal was not purposely malicious and she did everything she did out of fear of what happened to her happening again and protecting those she loved. She was misguided not evil.
@hunterolaughlin2 ай бұрын
@@lilac3266👏👏
@lilac32662 ай бұрын
also she never exhiled anyone? if you’re talking about bruno he chose to leave for a multitude of reasons and says that in the movie.
@hunterolaughlin2 ай бұрын
And now one is apparently listening to you with how you’ve only got 1 (now 3 replies).
@1992disney2 ай бұрын
@@lilac3266 Seriously? How many times do I have to keep telling you to stop defending both the movie and Alma? You're never gonna change my mind no matter how hard you try. So get over it already. It's not worth wasting time arguing about it. 🤦♀