This is why I love anti-villains. They are a reminder that sometimes, it really is just a misunderstanding and we're all good people.

If there are anti-villains, then they should join the Anti Villain League.

Think what made Pixar anti-heroes really stand out from other anti-heroes is that they never start out as bad people. In the case of Anton Ego and Dean Hardscrabble, they're just strict professionals who do not want any room for error in their work. And given their roles? Totally understandable. The 'villainous' aspect is where they take it TOO seriously that it overtakes them.

I like the definition: an anti-villain is an antagonist, without villainous traits or motives.... That instantly takes me to the fox and the hound for a disney example

Let’s be honest, everyone here was like Anton Ego at one point.

I'm glad you point out the difference between an antagonist and a villain, in that an antagonist may work against the hero's goals, but not be against them personally.

I love how so much lore and stuff was established for Buzz Lightyear’s universe yet the film chose to throw it out in favor of weird plot twists and “always chaotic evil” aliens.

Ego just had a particular paradigm that needed shifting. And in doing so get's exactly what he asks for. When Ego is asked what he would like when he comes into the restaurant, he asks for perspective. By the end of the night, he indeed has a new perspective. Poetry in motion picture.

I'm glad these characters are recognized as Anti-Villain given that they very much do the opposite of what villains usually do and yet they still feel like an antagonist in the story. Even though they have miserable or unlikable characteristics, I'm glad that most of Pixar's Anti-Villain characters either find happiness or change their outlooks on life compared to its villainous catalog.

Auto hits HARD. Auto did his best - he kept humanity alive. He was the head machine, controlling EVERYTHING, but without "direct strings". Compare it to "omnipresent" AIs that can just, for example, lock door, look at you thought any camera, directly control any robot, etc, and compare how Auto keeps ship alive. He acts like a human - he has to press buttons, give orders directly, and sees only what Bee McCrea could also see. Effectively, Auto could be replaced by Human and not reduce available methods of ship maintenance and control, and yet Auto was here. Always here, keeping ship alive, putting robots built by BnL where they belong. 700 years of maintenance are no joke, and I 100% believe Auto plays significant role to keep it like that.

You know I’d probably consider John silver from treasure planet to be an anti-villain as well. i’m serious yeah sure he he still wanted treasures and to be rich and everything but he still clearly had a fatherly bond with Jim And he truly cared about him to the point where he literally gives up the treasure by the end

Personally, I didn't mind Pixar at first, because I thought they would be the ones making 3D while Disney would make the usual stuff. Too bad those guys changed drastically since the 2010's and it's not good what's happening in the animation industry because of too much of convenience, rush, lazyness and lack of creativity & passion for art.

What about Joy from Inside Out? All she wants to do is make Riley, and other emotions, happy because it’s in her nature. She gets to points where she’s telling the other’s what to do on the first day of school and doesn’t accept that a new core memory is sad, causing both her and Sadness to go into long-term memory. When Sadness brings up a sad memory or something (“Riley missed the winning shot. She wanted to quit.”) she feels that she has to say sorry to Joy or Joy tells her to work on it. Joy gets frustrated at Sadness for talking to Bing Bong when his rocket gets thrown away, before he feels better and she wonders how she did that. Joy wouldn’t let Sadness get in the recall tube because the core memories were turning blue, and she fell to the forgotten memories with bing bong. Only after replaying the hockey memory, and remembering Sadness’ words “she missed the winning shot” as Riley was sad while sitting with her parents before her team came to cheer her up, did Joy realize that Riley needs to feel Sadness, and all the other emotions. Joy asks Sadness to stop Riley from running away, she gives her the core memories, and the emotions start making new core memories with multiple emotions

Anti-villains always seemed interesting to me. Anton definitely sticks out to me in terms of Pixar. We need more stories around them, honestly. It's easy enough to love a villain just by them being villains, but an anti-villain, I feel, creates the sense of relatability and sympathy for someone who was allegedly on the wrong side.

How I see Auto from Wall-e: on surface level, it’s easy to see him as “a robot taking over our lives” but as you describe, he was built by humans with a purpose of preservation. But he’s been on auto-pilot and his job is auto-pilot is “control the ship and keep humans safe”. Earth was supposed to give the A-OK for return but since Auto never got that, he still takes it that Earth is not safe and therefore he will continue his objective… But theres a bigger “auto-pilot”, as the humans themselves have gone on auto pilot. Calling the human race aboard the ship “lazy” presumes they had the choice to be so. Instead, they became complacent and simply accepted this reality. They had no drive, no purpose, no conflict to solve. They were said “hey chill here and wait until we say come back. Until then, enjoy a vacation for a year or a two decades.” People expected a call and it never came. They therefore never questioned their status. This became life and they didn’t have any other basis to compare it to, which is expressed when the Captain is fascinated with logs of Earth as we know it, and how little he knew of culture they were supposed to have. So when complacency is shifted, people begin to see through the veil. One could argue Auto doesn’t even exist - instead the conflict and transition of “auto to manual” is the point at which the human race said “no, we need to change everything because it’s in our power absolutely” and the human race was who transitioned from auto to manual. This concept is symbolized in the simple but dramatically expressed scene of the Captain standing up, and the human race watching this, amazed and inspired to be better almost immediately as the opportunity presents itself. Auto was not the problem - he was a reflection of human nature indirectly showing them the problem they needed to fix. Literally no human decided for thousands of years to literally stand up for themselves. And Auto could have been turned to manual at any point. But never did they do this. They accepted this robot knew best because he did everything for us but nothing has changed still, so this is what we have. Which goes beyond a ship or space or a robot….. Think about it. Why did humans need to leave Earth at all? Because their actions had consequences that resulted in the destruction of what was basically the biosphere? And why wasn’t that stopped or solved but instead avoided and claimed “we’ll come back when it’s fixed”? Heck, it doesn’t even seem like measures were taken to bring awareness to it *while* there was still time but an active threat on the rise.. … So why all this? Because humans became complacent then too… Auto is surface level an antagonist but he’s there to say “You think the issue will solve itself without your involvement, and leaving home didn’t teach you anything. The issue will follow you no matter where you go unless you do something about it.” Machines aren’t the issue of Wall-e, and to say so is a form of projection - because machines don’t exist without humans and equally at par to this, machines do not function without the intention of humans (Keep this in the forefront of your mind when considering the modern politics of Ai as well - there is much more than meets the eye to it and antagonizing it is a form of blindness). Preservation of the planet is another moral that seems blatantly obvious but I would again argue a hot take and say it’s false - because those issues wouldn’t even be an issue to begin with if not saying to turn a blind eye and accept complacency…. At the deepest core, the moral is awareness of complacency. I wouldn’t say human nature is a core moral either because complacency *is* human nature. It’s what we all want, and there’s totally nothing wrong with that…Utopias and “a thing that’ll do something for you so you don’t have to think about it ever again.” It sounds delightful, but ignorance is not always bliss. When trust becomes complacency is when you see something working for a while and you don’t stop to double check if the solution is still benefiting the issue *in the appropriate time*. Sometimes hands off is the best approach. But no matter what the “best approach” is, there are times in the conflict when that has yet to benefit, or no longer benefits it. But you trust it will be okay if you don’t question it so you will “accept things as they are”, or “it is what it is”. This is complacency. It is like a pain killer that can help the small hurts but too much over time will begin to kill your vitals. Or to reference another movie that entirely partakes in all of the above themes… Consider taking the red pill sometime and see what you learn…

Ego is on top of the list. And that snail 🐌 from Monster Inc

Definitely hope Disney starts making anti-villains. Bellweather, Yokai, Namaari, and Magnifico were good places to start.

People complaining about Gabby Gabby being called an anti-villain misunderstand her. Let me ask you this: you cannot speak (essentially her disability, not autism you weirdos in the comments (I have autism, so I can say that)), and you just want someone to love and care about you, but everyone ignores you because you can't speak. No-one wants to help you or do anything for you. This goes on for your whole life. Then you have a small ray of hope, a chance to speak and be noticed, but you have to do some extreme and unethical things for that chance - you might find a dead body, for example, and you could take the necessary parts for a transplant (assuming it's as easy as tearing it off). You know that's wrong, but you never know if you'll have another chance. This could be the only opportunity in your life to be able to speak. Wouldn't you at least be tempted to do it?

Bro thought he could sneak Gaby Gaby and we wouldn't notice💀 Her goons literally tried to rip Woodys voicebox out of his body and she probably would've done it herself if Woody didn't agree to give it to her

bro really added the ceramic doll to ego and the headmistress

Antagonist doesn’t already directly translate to villain. Some of these are obstacles the protagonist(s) face. They are characters who happen to oppose the protagonist at the start of the story

this is a great way to explain the difference between an antagonist and a villain

one thing i like about dean hardscrabble is that she doesn't appear to want to have to expel either mike or sully, she just has to because mike as good a student as he is, likely wouldn't be able to scare anyone. and sully as great a scarer as he is, will end up getting himself or others into trouble that they can't get out of, and is likely pushing her own luck against a potential higher up, by giving mike and sully a chance, making her an antagonist not by will, but by circumstance

This is enjoyable to watch, and somebody like me should write a letter to "Pixar" asking them to change the title "Toy Story 5", to a different name title with "Toy Story" still in the title.😎👍💯

Whoa man! I really love what you did here, great video overall. But I feel like you forgot to breathe... I geniuently had to double check if I wasn't listening on 1,25 speed

Interestingly if you think about Pixar anti-villain are actually anti-villain done right and sympathetic misunderstood and redeemable villain do justice

I’m early for once. Loved this video

Gaby Gaby is a villain

This is where I draw the line between antagonist and villain: a villain opposes the hero because they are evil, but an antagonist simply opposes a hero’s goal. An antagonist can have noble qualities, or even be an ally of the hero, they simply don’t want whatever the hero wants and oppose them. Thus to be a villain you need to be evil by the standards of the media. Bruce is the only one on the list I would classify as an anti villain, since he is evil (trying to eat the fish) but actively trying to ignore his villainous nature. But inherent in the definition of villain is the evil, so if there is no evil they cannot be a villain but are instead an antagonist or a nemesis, both of whom are motivated to oppose the hero but for different reasons.

8:28 You just described Hal 9000. Hal 9000 was told to lie, and that the human crew must not know about what was going on and that he could pilot the ship without them. His other directive was that he could not lie, and so the only thing he could do to fufill his mission was to kill the crew, he was told to lie, but he did not know how to lie, so he malfunctioned. And in 2010, the sequel to 2001, hal doesnt kill anyone, and does everything they want him to, even when he is about to die, he does what he is told to. Hal is not evil, he does what he is told to.

Honestly, Gaby Gabby is still one of my all time favorite Toy Story characters. She may have been antagonistic at first, but you eventually start to sympathize and empathize for her and want her to succeed. And the scene where she finds a lost girl always touches my heart.

Remember gang, antagonists and bad guys are not the same thing. Antagonists are people who oppose the main character (protagonist) and bad guys are flat out morally evil. I absolutely love antagonists that are not inherently bad, and oppose the main characters to "help" them or to help themselves.

My favorite character the Antagonist the adversary

Man, so many of these comments are VIOLENTLY missing the point for the sake of sounding smart (they're failing.) Excellent video!

Even as a kid i never really seen Ego as a "villain", in fact i always shed that light to Skinner

To me, Gaby gaby is a real villain. Not only she has terrifying puppets as '' friends '' but she told them to capture Forky; he didn't attacked or insult her; it was cruel to chase him. The doll also wanted to removed Woody's voice box; who could be his vocal cords if he was a human, that was evil! She could ask him gently instead of making him feel sad for her and chased him with the puppets. I don't remember her saying '' Sorry for how Benson treated you '' or something. That character is not nice!

No one's a villian anymore, they're just "misunderstood " a.k.a. "boring" 💤

I would still consider Auto from Wall-e the main villain as well as the anti villain as there is a common trait that auto is the villain of that movie. And yes I get what your saying that in the end the humans themselves are their own villain as auto is just a product of what they made on the axium whilst away from earth. But there are some actions in sometimes of the movie where auto seems to do things personally to our hero or the story to mess with the hero’s origins plan. Great videos man keep it up!

0:57 But why show Gabby? Because that thing is a straight up villian she's a selfish person and is ends justify the means to a T threatening to essentially kill, torture or just maim others if it gets her closer to her goal. Just because she's got a sad backstory doesn't justify anything and even then she's not doing it because it's selfless for a toy to make someone happy. No she wants to make herself happy through another. 1:17 You know I'm sure stalin had a good intentions when he set up the gulag work camps. Or if we want a media example Plapatine commiting order 66 so he could create a one galaxy goverment under himself so the galaxy would be safe.

Bro discovered the difference between antagonist and a villain(well done video)

My favourite anti-villain has always been Amos from The Fox and The Hound.

Can you please do a video about the rest of Sony Animation films following the release of Spiderman Beyond the Spider-Verse?

It has always irritated me that "villain" and "antagonist" are conflated, but I don't agree with those who say that an anti-villain is "not" a villain. An anti-hero is not just a protagonist with bad characteristics, because that's too broad. Some stories have genuinely bad people as the protagonist-for example, shows like _Dexter_ or movies like _Goodfellas._ Dexter and Henry Hill, despite having some minor good traits, are definitely *villainous people.* They have bad motives and do bad things, and they are shown in ways that make it clear they're not to be emulated, even if we (the audience) want to see them succeed somehow in the context of the story. An anti-hero is _genuinely heroic,_ but with traits and motives that are not associated with heroes. Ergo, an anti-villain is not just a virtuous antagonist, but is _genuinely villainous,_ but with traits and motives that are not associated with villains. Protagonist describes whose story it is, and antagonist describes who opposes that story, of course, so it's possible to be an evil protagonist and a virtuous antagonist. Hero and villain, by contrast, are _moral_ signifiers. A hero is someone we look up to, or are supposed to; and a villain is someone we look down on, or are supposed to. Hence why anti-heroes, and anti-villains, are so interesting and uncomfortable and frustrating and satisfying: they challenge our innate, naïve (and, unfortunately, dearly-held) ideas about how the ones we root for = always good, and the ones we root against = always bad. That's my argument anyway.

Its kinda sad that, in media, people who are strict and just trying to do their job can be considered antagonists and must be stopped

I have this weird feeling letting the rest of OK into the scare program was a compromise because Dean Hardscrabble changed her mind about Mike after the incident but wasn’t in a position where she willingly could let him or sully back into the school. The way she wishes them luck makes me feel like she wanted to let them back in but her hands were tied because of things out of her control like the publicity surrounding the stunt.

Going from Lotso to Gabby Gabby may be the biggest villain downgrade in animation history (aside from Syndrome-Screenslaver).

Youre're right - even if the definition exists, the common understanding of "anti-villians" and their story implications aren't well know. Hopefully videos like yours changes that!

I can't believe you said "He is a clear bad guy, but also not a Bad Guy" and didn't use that clip from Wreck-It Ralph

I still don't understand why Gabby's voice box didn't spew out Woody voice lines when her string was pulled, since it wasn't her voice box that was damage, but the disk that triggered the lines themselves. Wouldn't the boxes have a bunch different lines recorded for the different toys they would be put into, and the way the disks are designed be it with grooves or whatever is what triggers the set of lines for the specific toy it was being put in? In other words replacing her Gabby Gabby disk with a Sherrif Woody disk should've made her speaker play Sherrif Woody lines.

I’d probably put Mama Imelda from Coco as an anti villain as well as while she was actively against Miguel and his love of music in the first half of the film it was because of all the trauma she went through and eventually changed for the better

Different studio technically but where would you put Death (puss in boots) he clearly wants to kill Puss for the sheer pleasure of it. However he allows him to live when he no longer sees the arrogant legend he originally hated. Finally we all need to feel Death’s cold embrace to truly feel alive in the first place.

Wish Zurg was not Buzz.

fun fact: hardscrabble was the only "villain" that was never wrong

Disney created so much anti-villains with tragic backstories that they lost it's track when it comes to mak an actual villain. In the Cruella LA movie the Dalmatians were actually the main villains for trowing Cruella mother off a cliff and that's why she wanted to k*ll them to make a fur. Creating anti villains is a confortable way of writting a story and that's why Wish was such a hot mess in terms of storytelling.

Idk mate. I don't think forcing and blackmailing mutilation on a character for personal fuffilment can be counted as well intentioned.

Surprised you didn’t mention terry from Soul

Anton ego is definitely the best of the bunch of anti villains and his monologue at the end of the movie has got to be one of my favorite moments in cinema history as for auto sorry to burst your bubble but I consider him a legit villain

The first anti-villain I remember was Pegasus from Yu-Gi-Oh. At first you think he's this cheating bastard who wants to collect Yugi's Millennium Puzzle for evil purposes...only to learn after his defeat that he simply wanted to bring back his dead wife. Even more shocking is how _young_ he is, meaning that his and his wife's entire futures were taken away from them, and even teenager me couldn't help but want him to see his wife again.

whats about Hopper from A bugs life? Atleast he just trys to help his race to survive.

"The path to hell is paved with good intentions"

anti villain fans when anti villains kill a villain

You know that Anti-Villian doesn't exist, right? This is just villian with Extra Steps. Like, you can have good motivations but still being the villian.

What about the Prospector or Henry Waternoose III? I’m not sure if they count, but both do have sympathetic traits that could be seen as anti-villainous.

Not everyone Antagonistic towards the main character is a 'bad guy'

Does anyone else think it's strangely funny that the "main villain" of Finding Nemo is literally just an 8-year old girl?

5:56 I spot a glitch in the matrix

Anti-Villains are the necessary dark plot point to the story. The only problem is when their story takes a darker turn. Rather than make them better they're made worse and the replacement of the villain that was present.

Ah, the mistake that antagonist = villain.

Anti-villains were great until Pixar started using them over and over and over again, like how Disney had that weird phase where they were addicted to twist villains. I wish Disney and Pixar would just go back to making classic unapologetically evil villains like the ones from their old movies.

I wouldn’t call Gabby Gabby an anti-villain. She’s a normal villain who didn’t deserve the redemption she got.

Are these all really antivillains or are they just mere antagonists.

Ego isn't a villain, only an antagonist, The Director of Monster ink Same, been the antagonist isn't like to be a Villain, Anti Villain, are characters with ideology's twisted things that only make sense to them but do more harm than good, Example: Thanos, Magneto, Amon (from Korra), Killermonger a softer example Zuko (from Avatar), Ashi (from Samurai Samurai Jack) and Megamind

Honestly, the anyi villain of ratatouille was more a force of nature rather than an anti villain

Can't blame Auto the computervjust wants to live.

Nice argument, but one small issue: *There's no "anti-villian" thing*

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Dude, I don't know what it is exactly, but something about the way you talk makes you difficult to understand. You still got your point across, but I had to do a few double-takes.

your looking forthe word antaginist an antagnist deosn't nead to be a bad person or a villain all they nead is to apose the main chacter

Anton ego isn’t really a villain to me he never really does anything bad besides saying that linguinis quote of anyone can cook is wrong

Anti means don’t like villains

DW fanboys be like: "These are awful movies, villains here didn't even want to kill anybody"

Why are you using “Anti-Villain” when antagonist will do. They oppose the protagonist, but aren’t villainous.

Can people stop confusing Anti-Villains with an overrated Character Archetype in "Antiheroes"? An Anti-Villain does bad things for a good goal. An Antihero does good things for a selfish goal. ITS SIMPLE PEOPLE!!!

I love your videos but your excess use of words is very distracting. :( You should go over ur scripts and cut out the fluff you don't need. I am not here to hate but I do wish to help with constructive criticism! :D For example: Original (Time stamp: 5:33) “His figure is something that contradicts those who like food but actually explained by how he loves food having the distinct knowledge and taste for what this world entails, whether it be food or defined wine. He is meant to challenge the notion that anyone can cook or that Gusteau can produce great food with having a man like him that caused the restaurant to fail over the years.” Alternative Anton Ego is someone who has a distinct taste of what the world has to offer, whether it be fine wine or food, and is much more critical than the average person. He was made to challenge the notion that anyone can cook and was the critic that forced Gusteau’s restaurant to lose a star and its spotless reputation over the years. I'm not saying my version is perfect but sometimes your sentences don't connect and you use a lot of cold/ formal words that don't often work. It's alright to be casual about your word choice, especially in a review where you want people to feel a friendly connection with you.

I think the term you're looking for is Antagonist. Someone who isn't evil per se, but conflicts with the protagonist's wishes, goals, and beliefs.

Nah, Darla is a straight up villain

Thought i am not a fan of Toy Story 4, i must ask: is Gaby-gaby trully an anti-villain? All she wanted is a new voice-box, she didn't have any bad attentions, so she may be a supporting character.

Tbch, these aren't anti-villains so much as just non-villainous antagonists. An antagonist is a character who stands in the way of the protagonist reaching their goals, a villain being an antagonist who's actions are immoral/villainous, but antagonists can also be non-villainous, meaning their actions aren't immoral/villainous but nonetheless directly conflict with the protagonists goals (which is the vein all of these characters fall in, and no, being strongly and unfairly critical of something isn't an inherently villainous trait, sorry Ego), the term anti-villain suggests that the character is still doing something villainous, but, given that anti-heros are characters who's actions are heroic but their character traits aren't characteristic of heroes, an anti-villain would be the inverse of this, a character who's actions are villainous but their major character traits aside from their actions/goals aren't characteristic of villains (i.e characters like Doofenshmirtz from Phineas and Ferb would fit this)

The only real villains I can think of from Pixar are Mr Waternoose and the Elon car from cars 2, the rest are just kinda shitty people

I think toy story 4 sucked

Auto was DEFINITELY a straight-up villain-- as the AI running the ship, the ship with systems built in to check the veracity of organic life retrieved from Earth, he became a villain when he KNEW that the boot contained a living plant and acted deliberately to stop it being brought to the sample analyser.

well erm, actually, remy the rat according to mattpatt is the REAL villian soooo

Auto is my enemy! 😤😠😡

You actually included Gaby Gaby dude? Really? Gaby Gaby isnt one to sympathize with butah. This character was literally for the woke people. "She isnt evil she is just misunderstood" that makes her boring.

Honestly toy story 2's villain is not really redeemable and it's just another way that movie sucks

I hate Toy Story 4

i love anti-villains bc it’s shows the true complex nature of our internal struggles between knowing the right thing to do VS our own selfish inflictions