People dislike Atlantis? I can understand critics, but have never meet anyone who's watched the film and disliked it. It was one of my favorites as a kid.

Helga: “There weren’t supposed to be people here. This changes everything.” Rourke: “This changes nothing.” This is the biggest clue that the character has ulterior motives and something is up.

Love that Atlantis and Emperor's new groove have both grown into beloved classics over the years. They were very before their time

I'm surprised that this movie was such a flop. This was one of my favorite childhood movies and up until recently I had no idea that it did poorly.

Another moment that hinted at Rourke’s true nature was this exchange between Helga and him. “Commander… there weren’t supposed to be people down here. This changes everything.” “This changes _nothing.”_

Hans would've worked if they had made him honest. If they had done the kiss, have it not work, and then have Hans start panicking and lashing out, everything he did could have been a lot more justifiable. He wouldn't have wanted to kill Elsa until he felt that maybe killing her was the only way to save Anna, and it would make him a much more sympathetic character.

One detail that nobody ever talks about is that Rourke does NOT start the movie as a villain at all. Yes, he's a mercenary in it for the money, but that does not mean that he'd have any reason to do anything antagonistic. Then 2/3 of the crew are wiped out by the Leviathan. Men and women he had served alongside, who looked up to him as a commander, their deaths are on his hands, and he refuses to put any of the blame on Milo for being the reason they came to find Atlantis. Then they meet real, Living Atlanteans, and you can see the goodness in him quickly die out.

Another line that hinted at Rourke’s villainous nature is when the crew are first driving into Atlantis. Helga: Commander, there aren’t supposed to be people down here. This changes everything. Rourke: *stone faced* This changes nothing. It implies that, unlike Milo (who, during that same scene, is “like a kid at Christmas”), Rourke has something bigger on his mind than just finding Atlantis.

Atlantis the Lost Empire was not hated by audiences, it not only made profit but it became a cult classic. It's poor performance compared to other disney movies is attributed to being released at the same time as Shrek. Me and my family loved the movie when I was a kid.

I love how they nailed his personality. This guy seems approachable, even as a mercenary. Even tho that it seemed kinda obvious to me since the beginning that he’d fit the evil general archetype for the story to progress, the fact that the whole team was evil (and how they unraveled it) took me by surprise. A well developed twist villain from a greatly developed movie. Great vid!

Part of it that really sold me on their villainy was when Milo was talking with the group and getting to know them. There's a moment when he's all wide eye and happy, blissfully running off about his reasons for wanting this adventure. Yet when he questions the rest of the group, their only motivation is "money". It shows just how much of a Fish-out-of-water Milo is compared to everyone else and cemented the idea that something was wrong. They're all presented as good people with their own unique backstories and origins, all are connected yet in a normal world, so many different personalities and specialized people wouldn't gel well together unless there was a truly common and underlining reason and what more selfish reason could a group of people have than to simply be "rich". It's why the reveal hit so hard yet fit so well. Milo is the only one seeking honest adventure. He's genuine, curious and friendly. These people, he doesn't truly know them by that point and despite finally accepting him into the group, their intentions don't line up in the slightest and I love that. It's so on the nose your mind doesn't think twice about it when it hears it. It's natural to want to get paid for what you do for a living and that's why it works so damn well. Underrated film

I think another big part of the twist working is that you completely buy that Milo couldn't have figured it out, despite having lived with those people for weeks, and not because he is naive (even if he also is that) but because he is so passionate about Atlantis that he cannot even conceive that someone is doing it for any other reason, finding Atlantis has been his single life purpose for years, it makes complete sense for his character that the thought never even crossed his mind.

I think a big reason why Atlantis didn't get a lot of love is Disney made this a straight up adventure movie. No singing or musical numbers. They did this with the Black Cauldron and Treasure Planet too, and for whatever reason, when Disney does that style, they don't do as well at the box office and are not as fondly remembered.

What I love about Rourke is at the turning point he offered Milo a genuine opportunity to join him, meaning all that admiration for Milo's intellect and capacity as a linguist wasn't feigned and that he genuinely saw a use for Milo that despite not being part of the original deal he was willing to cut him a share regardless. It's only after refusing him twice does he turn hostile towards Milo.

Another bit of foreshadowing you forgot: When the crew first arrive at Atlantis, Helga says that the fact that their are people still alive changes everything. His response: "This changes nothing". This hints to the mercenary twist, as well as the fact that he's much less humane compared to the rest of the crew

People dislike Atlantis?! I always put it up there with Treasure Planet and Road to El Dorado as one of the most underrated animated films.

One of the fun things about Rorke is that he did show a few heroic qualities for the sake of throwing the viewers off. His villainous hinting was more subtle but his heroic actions were more present such as him taking the time to hold a vigil for the crew that died during the leviathan attack. It's pretty important for a twist villain to express behaviors like that

In terms of the, Hans didn't need to be a villain, point. Disney had the golden opportunity to show the difference between infatuation and romantic love. They are different. Disney could have written Hans like Anna, isolated with a need for attention/affection that was established for both in the film. Hand didn't need to be re written until the twist. Hans and Anna kiss, but nothing happens. They are both confused because they both thought they were in love. But it wasn't it was infatuation and affection that they craved that they mistook for love. But Hans is crushed thinking Anna is going to die takes off to confront Elsa, leading to the conclusion that to save Anna and the innocent people of the kingdom Elsa must die. Movie ends with Anna wishing Hans well in finding his place with some awkward goodbyes and parting on good terms. THERE fixed the movie without having a twist villain and keeping Hans in the story.

Helga: there were not supposed to be people down here. This changes everything. Rourke: this changes nothing. The biggest villain flag and the only reason Rourke is a villain, if there were no Atlantians he could be like Indiana Jones, Lara Croft, or Scrooge McDuck.

You forgot to mention the that the first foreshadow we see is in his opening line. "... I prefer a good Western..." this lines up with he and the crew's "cowboy" actions against the native Atlantians.

I think the fact that Rourke stays calm the whole time makes him an even better villain, I feel like whenever a villain starts to lose their cool and has a temper tantrum it makes them less intimidating, at least to the audience. When a villain gets mad it says that they know they're at a disadvantage and/or are about to lose, but when they stay calm it gives a chilling sense of uncertainty like they have something up their sleeve that they know will help them win and it makes you question whether the battle is already determined if the hero has as much of a chance as you thought or are they actually doomed to fail in the end.

Atlantis and the Treasure Planet are the two gems of animation surprisingly few people talk about

Atlantis was widely hated by Audience? When? Critics I can see, but ever since this movie came out I've been hearing nothing but praise.

The best hint of rorke being villain, is when Helga says the population changes plans, he says it wont change anything

Atlantis the lost empire was an excellent movie! Why does no one talk about it?!! It’s to my likings! Perfect plot, epic twists, romance to make us feel single and action!!!

Also, Hans “saved” Elsa bc there were a TON of people there, and it made him appear good natured. At that point in the movie, he was planning to marry into power, and maybe axe them off later. He only revealed his nature when the opportunity to have them both die without hurting his image and skipping the marriage entirely presented itself. TLDR: He was in it for the long con, but found a shortcut and stopped faking nice.

Don't forget the interaction between Helga and Rourke driving into Atlantis itself: H: Commander, there weren't supposed to be people down here, this changes everything R: This changes nothing

Rourke is so good at flying under the radar because most of the things that could tip you off he's a violent metcenary tip you off that he's a capable military leader. He's calm under pressure, takes decisive actions without hesitation, acts in a manner that encourages others to follow his example for better or worse, and comes ready for a fight always.

Who's shitting on atlantis? I've never heard anyone consider this film anything but an underrated but beloved classic

Helga actually does survive the initial fall. Which leads to one of my favorite moments of the movie where she says the "nothing personal" line back to him and shoots a flare at the balloon setting it ablaze. This causes Rourke to snap as he'll no longer be able to escape with his loot. Not much later he ends up turning into an atlantian energy monster, visually showing off what his greed has turned him into, and promptly gets killed off. I'd also like to note that everyone had turned against him by this time, as he'd either backstabbed them, or they couldn't agree with his moral compass. Due to all of this he effectively died alone while on the flip side Milo has a bunch of people who are there to support him. For even more knife twisting, it's shown at the end of the movie that all the characters who make it back to the surface are set for life. Dude could have retired, but instead loses everything while trying to have it all.

"Everyone hates atlantis" Excuse me?????

This was an excellent breakdown. But what really hit me that I never noticed was Rourke being the first to abandon ship. You’re spot on with that being cowardly and an early sign that he’s being deceptive.

I actually watched Atlantis not long ago since I'd never seen it, and my first thought was "Oh, the military guy is definitely the villain." But then the movie CHANGED MY MIND. He was friendly and lighthearted, a father-like figure as you said, and so I thought "Oh... is he.. not the villain? What?" So while I might've known just by assuming he'd be the villain by virtue of being "most likely the villain", the movie actually did a great job of hiding that fact, enough so that it literally made me rethink my theory.

"See you got that journal, *nice pictures..."* Such a brilliant and subtle way of telling the audience that he read through the journal and took the missing page well before Milo even got the journal. Combine with the "enriching" line and the movie sets up his motives in the very scene he's introduced in, but it so reliably goes below the first-watcher's radar that when they do make the connection it hits like a ton of bricks. That, and all the wonderfully quotable lines from him make him one of my top animated villains, not just in Disney.

I wasn’t even aware that ppl hated Atlantis

I also like the opposite: Take 'Long John Silver' from the equally-annoyingly-forgotten Treasure Planet. You >KNOW< he's the villain from very early on... But the character growth in the movie, and the things he teaches the main character make you like him anyway. He's too likable to be a standard villain because ultimately he genuinely cared about James, AND taught him to be a better person. Including the bit where James explains this, and he is visibly torn between pride in the person James has become, and anger that James is turning his back... Because he knows that he did that. He taught James to be a better person then he was, and is proud about it. I also think this is why he doesn't die, because honestly his death would tie things up too neatly for the message that a bad man can be a good father figure, and someone who's lessons you aspire to even when you know they were ultimately a bad person. Because regardless of that, what they taught you was still valid.

Can someone tell me WHO actually hates Atlantis? Because everyone I've ever talked to about this film loves it. Just because something didn't do well in the box office doesn't mean it was bad and I don't trust the "professional critics" cause I've seen time and time again where they resoundingly hate the movie, but fans absolutely love it. For example: the Boondock Saints. I absolutely love the movie and, according to Rotten Tomatoes, so did the audience, but Critics HATED the movie. So I take the Professional Critics opinions with a grain of salt.

"I consider myself an even-tempered man, it takes a lot to get under my skin! Well congratulations, son; you just won the solid gold cupie doll!" That line and it's delivery have been stuck in my head for twenty years

Actually 4shame, to me it makes perfect sense why Milo Thatch couldn't pronounce Kida's name correctly. First off, it's a dead language. How would he possibly know what accent or dialect to use for a name that he has only studied but never actually experienced firsthand. Second, there's a scene in Atlantis The Lost Empire where Milo asks Kida how his accent is and Kida tells him that it's boorish, provincial, and that he speaks it through his nose, heavily implying and confirming what I already just said in that just because Milo understands the language doesn't mean that he has either mastered it or that he fully understands it, for reasons that I just stated. Also, one last thing to prove this, when Milo first tries communicating to Kida in Atlantean he is clearly very slow to speak it and is clearly struggling to both think of and correctly speak it.

whoa, Atlantis is hated? That was top 5 for me in my childhood along with Aladin, Tarzan, Eldorado and Planet of Tresures

Actually. For Hans saving Elsa. He wasn't trying to. He wanted to kill her but make it took like an accident, so when he returned to Anna with the news he would marry her and be King. He actually aimed for the chandelier's hook to hopefully drop it on her and make it look like he 'valiantly saved her' but I can get why people didn't pick up on it because him looking up at the chandelier for a few frames might not be interpreted as such.

"widely hated by critics and audience alike" I never understood why, Atlantis is a fond memory for me, It might not be the best movie but it's pretty high up there but what can you expect from people that don't value Treasure Planet.

I don’t know why more people don’t appreciate Atlantis it’s a great movie

Another hint of his ulterior motives/ uncaring nature and willing to do anything is when Helga says "There weren't supposed to be people here, this changes everything." and his response "This changes nothing."

I think what makes Rourke even better as a twist villain is, that the only reason he turns into a villain is because there are still atlanteans. Which also adds to the villainous foreshadowing on top of it: (Pardon if I get this a bit wrong, it's been a while since I saw the movie and I've only seen it in Danish) Helga: We didn't expect that there would still be people. This changes everything. Rourke: This changes nothing.

Rourke is such a good twist villain. Not just because of everything mentioned here, but also because of how realistic his motivations are, and how they allude to larger themes of colonialism and imperialism. At one point he even says that he would prefer to be called an "adventurer capitalist," rather than a mercenary (although later calls his team mercenaries anyway), and alludes to western countries taking cultural artifacts from other countries by saying "if you gave back every stolen exhibit in a museum, you'd be left with an empty building. We're just helping along the archeological community." You can really see both perspectives do colonialism in the plot: On the one hand you have brave, plucky adventurers, traveling to distant lands, braving incredible dangers in the pursuit of knowledge, and yes, wealth as well. On the other hand, you have the end effects of those adventures, how the native people are exploited for their resources (the crystal) and left to die as it suits the mercenaries. Atlantis is an amazing story, and honestly still easily one of my favorite movies ever. That, along with Road To El Dorado, which explores many similar themes.

Audiences hated Atlantis?? "....BULLSHIT!!!" -George Carlin

I'm shocked that you completely overlooked the biggest foreshadow that Rourke was going to be the villain. Unless i missed it in the video. When they finally discover atlantis and Rourke and Helga are in the jeep crossing the bridge.. they briefly mention that "there was supposed to be nobody here, this changes everything"... and Rourke says "this changes nothing" in a sinister manner

I have literally never heard anyone express anything about Atlantis: The Lost Empire but nostalgic reverence.

Bellwether does have _one_ indication: her name. A bellwether is the leading sheep of a flock, typically with a bell on its neck. In the movie, Bellwether effectively leads the city to believe that predators are bad. One problem: _basically nobody knows what a bellwether is!!!_

Not foreshadowing the character's villainy will work perfectly if they continue to act the exact same as a villain as what they did as a "good" guy. If Bellweather had remained all sweet and cutesy even after it was revealed she was the baddy, that would have actually worked and been pretty creepy in a Dolores Umbridge sort of way. If Hans had remained in love with Ana even after it was revealed he was a villain, like he wanted to keep her and felt like she belonged to him or something disturbing like that, that would have worked as well. That's what's so great about Rourke in Atlantis, is he's not a twist villain because he's hiding it, but because Milo is so obsessed with his work he doesn't pay attention to it: when Milo figures it out he's horrified and can't believe he didn't see it coming, while Rourke literally offers him a hand and says "well, let's go we got work to do." Rourke acts the exact same from beginning to end, and is more a twist for Milo than for the audience.

When you think about it, it actually makes sense that Milo can't pronounce Kida's name. It's shown when he talks in Atlantean to her when they arrive at Atlantis that he struggles with pronunciation. Additionally, Kida later tells him Atlantean is spoken through your nose. This makes sense because a big part of learning a language is speaking & listening, especially when you're the only speaker in your area. And, naturally, longer words are harder to pronounce (I mean, when you learned the word "congratulations", it's pretty tough, especially in your non-native language). There's a full wiki page on Atlantean that explains pronunciation, grammar, etc., like how "h" is pronounced as a "kh". Milo, being from the modern world, likely had trouble figuring this out. (This is from a person who loves conlangs and languages and whose favorite Disney movie is Atlantis) All aside, thank you not only for validating how fantastic Rourke is, but also sharing this incredibly underrated movie!!

Atlantis has been my favorite movie since I was a little kid, I'll never understand the slander it got! Awesome analysis!

Atlantis was universally disliked by critics and audiences? Really? I honestly never knew about this - i just always thought it was one of those good Disney films that slipped through the cracks. I always considered it the second of my favourites - just behind Treasure Planet. Well, I'll still love it. Lots of fond memories.

I'm sorry, who is out there hating on Atlantis? I've always been under the impression this movie is beloved, just under-watched...

I never understood why Atlantis the Lost Empire was so poorly received. It is actually the favorite Disney movie of mine!

Atlantis actually got hate?! It's definitely one of my FAVORITE Disney films. And I agree that Rourke was a twist villain that was actually clever.

Also, in addition to being so buff and strong and in his mid 50s, can we also talk about how Rourke is *so smart* and *skilled* as both a tactician and fighter?!?! I mean, he uses strategical reasoning to figure out where the Crystal Chamber is, gain the king's trust just enough to let his guard down (which is very impressive, given that the king was entirely cynical about everyone else until Rourke convinced him), and incorporate not just brute strength without his weapons, but highly skilled, masterful martial arts into his combat?!?!?! Without his guns, Rourke is still insanely strong. And he's that strong and buff in his middle ages, not even in his prime... and without his strength, he is a highly skilled martial artist and combatant. And without combat feats, he is an *extremely* intelligent and analytical tactician. He's actually the full package. We *never* see any other Disney villains that's both the brain *and* the brawns of his team... but Rourke somehow manages to do it all. It's hard not to like him, despite his role as a villain.

Someone has probably mentioned it already, but the quote at 11:15 is important. "Nice pictures" proves he knows the book contains pictures, specifically ones of the crystal. By that same logic we can assume he purposefully ripped out the page and had this all planned from that moment. "of Ole Thaddius" also isn't really a sign of respect either -- you could extrapolate that he doesn't hold respect for Milo or his father, which is what he says during the villain reveal.

So underrated. Atlantis and Treasure planet are two of my favorite classic Disney movies

"Widely hated by critics and audiences alike" Critics I'll give you, but _audiences?_ Nah mate, you're gonna need a citation on that my dude, literally everyone I saw atlantis with as a kid, in theatres, loved that shit. I saw that shit 7 times as a child and I keenly remember even the adults enjoying this animated disney film "for kids".

Regarding Hans, I maintain the situation would've been a lot more intriguing if Hans was a good guy, but when he went to do the "True love's kiss" thing on Anna, have it fail (almost like "love at first sight" might not be the same as "true love," *IMAGINE THAT!*) and leave them both confused and distraught. Hans then goes to try and kill Elsa in a desperate attempt to save Anna, and then you can have Anna get frozen and Elsa uses the sisterly love thing to save her. Hans realizes that maybe the love at first sight thing isn't all it's cracked up to be. We didn't *need* a *villain* there.

I never understood why people hated this film. I still watch it from time to time

Whenever I rewatch this movie, I kinda always forget who the villain is, because how believable it is. And each time I am re-experiencing a bit of the surprise. Like "hmm, I remember the blond lady does awesome fighting later on, but who was she.....(half a movie later)... oh...right, she fight Milo!"

You also forgot the line that was the biggest hint “there weren’t supposed to be people here, this changes everything.” “This changes nothing.”

To be honest, I actually was surprised how badly received *Atlantis: The Lost Empire* was. I thought was a great film

One thing that should be mentioned is that halfway through the movie, they reveal everyone's motivation for going on this trip is money, likely including Rourke. While it's not portrayed as the best thing, it's not portrayed as evil. It only becomes evil when you see how far Rourke and the others were willing to go to get that money. I also like how Rourke doesn't immediately try to kill Milo but instead offers him a part of the deal, even reasoning with him as a historian. IT really adds to his character and makes him more than just dumb muscle.

I hated Hans as a villain. Frozen always seemed more like a “man v. himself” conflict. There’s literally no reason for a traditional villain

"Widely hated by critics and audiences alike-" *Excuse me what.*

The only reason this movie was considered bad was because it wasn’t a musical and therefore critics couldn’t figure out who it was for (it’s a Disney…animated film…without musical numbers? I don’t get it) And no I’m not joking, I actually read that somewhere a long time ago.

Something I really liked about Rourke is that he isn't really a villain during the beggining, and not in the sense that he just wasn't showing his true self. During the beginning, Rourke's and Milo's motivitions align because the two of them think that there are no natives alive, so their plan from the beggining was to retrieve the crystal from Atlantis, however, once they discover that the natives are still alive, Milo decides to change his mind, but Rourke doesn't and goes on with the initial plan. It's just like with the other side characters. They initally So yeah, he didn't turn bad or hid a part of himself to Milo, it simply happened that the situation made them decide different

I never really saw him as much of a twist villain because his similarity to Clayton from Tarzan and his military nature made me (and many others from my experience) suspicious of him from the very start, though the fact that the entire team was in on it definitely was a twist only really hinted at by their admittance during the journey that they're all in it for the money I never thought/realized that this movie was apparently hated, I just thought it was greatly forgotten and underrated, I've never heard anyone say that they actually hated it

"This should be enriching to all of us" and "This changes nothing" was a good hint about him being the villain

"widely hated by audiences" I'm sorry. I buy the critics being critic's, but who the hell thought this movie was bad!?

Wait,why the heck do people hate Atlantis????? :(

The biggest problem with hans is when she leaves him in the boat. He *smiles* . He is alone and he *smiles* . Nobody is around but us, there is no reason to play the part of a loverboy. Yet in the end he acts like he never loved her. If that were true he should've had a grin. A devious grin, not a smile.

There's nothing wrong with Milo being able to decipher Atlantean runes but not being an expert in exactly what the words they represent are supposed to sound like. There are plenty of dead languages that in real life we've deciphered the meanings of using translations from other contemporary languages but nobody knows how the spoken language actually sounded. The only reason why we know he has some cracks in his pronunciations is that in this case there actually were previously uncontacted native speakers of Atlantean who could provide a frame of reference for the proper speech patterns for the chief users of that language.

That last fact that the director of Atlantis also directed Beauty and the Beast and Hunchback is interesting. All three of those films are some of the only Disney movies (at least from the 2D era) to have their villains actually die pretty close to on screen. Rourke is shown heading into the blades and ceiling, Gaston is shown falling to his death, and Frollo is shown falling into flames. It skirts around showing gore or death while still making it clear that hey, this villain is DEAD DEAD and you wont even feel bad because this is not a charming, misunderstood guy, this is an actual evil bastard

I’d say Roark and Mr.Waternoose are the best Disney twist villains, I didn’t see either coming and I trusted them both wholeheartedly, one seemed like a genuine good army guy who had everyone’s best intentions at heart and took deaths as personal failures that he’ll carry forever and the other seemed like a grandfather figure who, although serious, is always in your court. I adore both of these films so maybe I’m being biased, seeing Atlantis in the pictures was an experience I’ve never forgotten

I'd say Rourke doesn't really get mentioned as a twist villain because, thanks to Clayton from Tarzan, people already suspected him of being untrustworthy the moment he was revealed.

Rourke is also probably the most realistic villain in Disney history. But the twist is still epic. Every time I rewatch Atlantis, I lose my mind at the "this will be enriching for all of us" line.

I love that Atlantis gives genuine personality to the secondary cast. Dr Sweet (great name btw) for example, is the only one of the crew who doesn’t hesitate to side with Milo. Throughout the expedition he’s continuously shown to be kindest member of the crew. While he may have been on board with plundering what as expected to be a long dead city, he is instantly against it when he learns it will hurt people.

Aight dawg I'm late to this party but I gotta point out a scene ya missed in Atlantis that literally tells you they got something planned. When Kida is leading them, and our two main villains have the short interaction "There was never supposed to be people down here, this changes everything." And with a very upset face he responds "This changes nothing"

I remember an essay someone did about Atlantis and how well animated each characters’ hands were and how they amplified their character. In Roark’s case, in most scenes save for the twist and final confrontation, he’s got his hands behind his back. While that is the typical position for a man with military background, it’s more telling of someone who’s hiding secrets and information, and who doesn’t trust others, he doesn’t want to show his metaphorical hand in who he really is and what he’s really planning.

There was also a quick moment when they discover the Atlantians, a fast exchange between Rourke and Helga along the lines of; "There's people in here, that changes everything." "That changes nothing." It's a blink and you miss it moment, found it when I was older and rewatching old movies.

The one scene that really hints at his or the group's evil nature is when crossing the bridge and Milo's geeking out Helga says to Roark "Sir, there aren't supposed to be people down here. This changes everything." With Roark replying "This changes nothing."

I had to check the old reviews because I was surprised to hear you state the popularity of Atlantis was mixed. Like many of the others commenting, I also thought the movie was beloved but just not popular. It’s so weird how many good movies are out there that just don’t do well.

Alantis wasn't hated by anyone it did release to mixed reviews but the main reason for its lack of success was because it was competing against DreamWorks Shrek

And there's even a hint to Rourke's sadistic nature in the personnel files. He was in command of a U.S Army regiment who was responsible for massacring a Sioux village.

After a recent watch of this movie, I’m convinced Rourke killed Milo’s grandfather when he was reading the final page and he didn’t want to sell the crystal.

Another thing to point out in his first scene Rourke makes comment about how the journal has "nice pictures" indicating that he's looked through it at least once, he may not have been able to read any of it but obviously saw the picture of the crystal and made the decision to find and steal it hence why he had the page the entire time

I have no idea why this and treasure planet we’re so poorly received? This was one of the greatest Disney movies of all time, with easily the best Disney princess.

This and treasure planet are my favorite childhood movies. No idea why people dismiss them so much but then again I've always been a fan of history so that's probably why I like them so much.

Wait... who didn't like "Atlantis"? There's so many iconic and memorable characters in it, and the character chemistry is fantastic.

I just watched Atlantis yesterday, and ngl I called him as the bad guy from the start. Still a great villain though.

honestly, the best disney movies are the ones that are not talked about, probably because they are not ruined by child friendly sequels

People hate this movie? Every person I every ran into that has seen this film, loves it to high heaven. I mean, it’s quotable for sure “Hey look. I made a bridge.” “Two for flinching”

_Widely hated by critics and audiences alike?!_ This one has ALWAYS been one of my favorites! *Despite* the fact that I’d seen too many movies previous to this one where the military leader is the villain to be surprised (such as James Cameron’s Avatar)

As a linguist: it’s totally believable that Milo can’t really pronounce Atlantean. He learned a dead language, out of a book, probably had to reconstruct it himself. Like, people who learn common languages still struggle over pronunciation, never mind a dead language nobody topside had heard for hundreds of years.

The thing about the crew is that they make it obvious they're not good guys. They say it straight. They're mercs and the only thing that matters to them in this expedition is their paycheck. We know they're evil but we don't expect they're THAT evil (and they're not)