+BottleBrassMonkey grime and UK hip hop are totally different

+BottleBrassMonkey grime and UK hip hop are totally different, so calling in that doesn't help

Rosenberg don't no shit lol! He just mentions what's on social media! I like how he gets British artists on but ffs listen to more grime! Old school grime like low deep, ruff sqwad, roll deep, Kano, the movement, Wiley etc I even wonder if he has heard boy in da corner which is thought to be the 1st complete "grime" album

+Maxim Calixte Yeah but it's not. We know what hip hop is, how you americans slept on grime is how you slept on ukhh. You know nothing so don't speak a naive mind.

+Maxim Calixte dont talk about shit you dont have the first clue about we have rappers dut we also have grime mcs grime came from garage jungle and DnB not hip hop as dizzee once said fix up look sharp fool

+Nick Roe Fix up look sharp! classic

+Nick Roe sittin here still gives me goosebumps

+davGbrap yh sitting here is probably my favorate track on there. the summer that came out was a live one

+Nick Roe listened to Girls from Showtime for the first time in ages a few weeks ago and I forgot how mad the beat is man, Dizzee productions used to be so live

Yh showtime was hit and miss for me i rated a few tracks but it didn't come close to his first album

+Ned Lightowlers facts bro, these fools dont know history everyting stem from the jamaica even hip-hop was founded by cool herc, a jamaican.

+Ned Lightowlers All of that is true, but the easiest way for me to explain to my friends what Grime is, is to tell them it's like Hip Hop but with different beats. Because none of them know what UK Garage and 2step is. A lot of people who like Hip Hop just assume Grime is the same thing, because they don't know the difference. It's the same for me, when I'm listening to Metal, I can spot some of the differences but I'm not able to tell what subgenre I'm listening to.

Fucking glad someone said it!!!!!!!!! Who gives a fuck where it comes from! Just know the Brits SLEEEEEEEEW DEEEEM!

+Ned Lightowlers I agree with many of your points, but with respect, I'd say a few steps are missing... R&B birthed Disco. Disco = House.. House + New Jack Swing = 2 Step Late 80's Uk HipHop was extremely fast and heavily influenced by Big Daddy Kane, Public Enemy, UltraMagnetics etc resulting in groups like : Silver Bullet, Demon Boyz, London Posse, HiJack, Rebel MC (Congo Natty), Vocals: Demon Boyz, London Posse and Rebel MC were the first to localise UK HipHop by adding their Jamaican or Cockney twang on their tracks. Production: Many of the above UK HipHop artists wanted to get bookings in Acid House Raves, so Rebel MC (Congo Natty) led the way into this fusion, by heavily relying on UK Rappers that spat fast with a yard twang (think Durrty Doogz) or by having Yard DJ's like Daddy Freedie, Tena Fly etc spitting over his manipulated HipHop breaks with a Reggae Baselines that later would be known as Jungle. Even Liam Howlett (Rave) , Goldie (Jungle) etc were all UK Hip Hop boys lol In summery: it's all about where your reference point starts. I totally get that many Grime MC's only go as far back as Stevie Hyper, thats ok, but just know that pretty much most of the components that make up Grime have already been done in HipHop. Dizzy has clearly come to this realisation as he is traveled and starting to connect the dots. If anybody disagrees go listen to the below artists circa 1988 -1991: Demon Boyz, Daddy Freddy, Ragga Twins, London Posse etc. P.S. The Top tier Grime MC's have graduated from one line flow reload bars into Lyrical MC's, just like how Disco MC's made the transition from Rappers Delight to Nas.

Guyforkz And most of the components that make up hip hop were already being done by early Jamaican soundsystems. I don't have a problem with people saying these guys liked hip hop or had some influence from it, but I do take issue with people trying to claim grime is a subgenre of hip hop or part of hip hop culture, when it has its own history. One of the big talking points in the late 90s/early 00s was that garage and grime had pushed UK hip hop out of the limelight, clearly making the distinction then. Hip hop definitely had an influence on clothing and certain aspects of lifestyle culture, but the music itself can quite easily be traced back to the early soundsystems of jamaicans who first came here. All these genres up to grime and later were heavily related to the pirate radio and rave culture, not so much the mixtape and track culture (obviously there were tracks but that was more a way the labels commercialised to sell records).

+Anesu Chimkupete Skinnyman, who made Council Estate of Mind, isn't a grime artist. I'd disagree that Grime has no influences from hip-hop, Dizzee mentioned in this interview that he was listening to US hip-hop and crunk.

Not suggesting for a second that Grime is a sub-genre or even a derivation of hip-hop. Simply saying that Grime, in my estimation, did take some influences from hip-hop, as it does from Garage, DnB, Jungle and so on.

+AntPid89 You must never heard of Rodney P or the london posse.

Both Hip-Hop & Grime were influenced by the same things and ended up Kinda Similar - GRIME IS DEFINITELY NOT HIP-HOP.

Lol so basically all you just said is that grime is from hip hop...

Nigga you are everywhere.

+Manny lol

+mickey st james west london has good curry, but music is north, south and east.

big up west london pirate radio myth fm

ye

Grime and Dancehall are both subgenres of hip hop.

+Cris LeRoi dancehall came before hip hop so false.

Grime its own wave, it's not a sub genre of anything

+Jay Hamilton u dumb as fuck.

Dancehall ain't a sub genre of hip hop. How can it when hip hop sprang out of reggae? Grime has dancehall influences

+MEGA .MEL Forget the labels, they aren't made in the same place as the records.

^ that's what I've always said, grime's rawness (when it started out anyway not really now people are getting paid) reminded me of how I felt when we first discovered hip hop in the early 80s. I think that rawness is quite an achievement as well considering the environment/living conditions of the progenitors were nowhere near as deprived or impoverished as 80s NY/LDN but early grime still felt raw despite everyone having mobile phones, nice creps / garms, the internet and computers etc...

+merely a teacher yea thats a good point, to me its kind of like an updated hip hop, and i think eventually it'll come full circle and influence hip hop and a lot more. look how the US recently got into electronic, grime will follow, once there is a version that is a little more accessible to the states, for better or worse

+MEGA .MEL do u got any history on the grime dee jays

DJs can mean the people on decks, like Spooky, Pied Piper, and Slimzee. Deejays can also mean the guys on the mic, like So Sollid, Ruff skwad, and Roll Deep.

+Sav S Stormzy...

+ihavetheanswer Adidas creps don't ask where I got them

+iRainFromDTown don't ask where they are, don't ask if I copped em

+SimplyComplicated Where you get your Rollie from?

+Sav S I was on KZfaq when Sav S made a batty boy comment

in the US it's a subgenre.

+Cris LeRoi nobody cares about the US. Chill.

+Cris LeRoi nobody cares about the US. Chill.

+Cris LeRoi I don't agree that Grime came from Hip Hop to be honest. Grime came from a mash up of UK Garage, Reggea, Dancehall, Sub Lo (Dubstep). Them influences were taken from the influences Hip Hop itself drew its influences from. So it's just our spin on it. A example i can give is.... Rosenburg just said about a certain beat that was one of the best double time beats in Hip Hop, Where as over here in the UK 140bpm is not double time that is just the tempo but, 140bpm is only where we ended up as the UK Garage seen was anywhere between 128 - 140bpm. (just a side note UK Garage in the early 2000's became our chart music, then boys from council estates just put a more darker/hood vibe to it) I'm 26 now and have listened and created UK Garage, Speed Garage, Bassline House, 4x4, Grime, DnB, Grime since i was about 12. I have to strongly disagree that grime is linked or even influenced by Hip Hop. our underground seen over here has grown organic. Before all this in the 90's we was listening to House, Dance and trance over here. Like Robin S - Show me love and Ace of Base - All that she wants. To end lol, Yes maybe in the 70's, 80's and early 90's the UK and the US drew from the same influences to create our music but to link Grime to Hip Hop to me is just completely skipping over like a 10 year growth period, Meaning any young kids from the US watching this interview would just think. Oh Grime is just UK Hip Hop and thats that. But No there was a real growth to our seen, that in my opinion, if anything had a almost Anti US influence to it. These are just my opinions though lol. Dizzee is a legend never forget summers as a kid rocking boy in the corner. and Rosenburg keep interviewing UK artists, Hopefully one day we can understand each others cultures fully one day.

Manny Nobody cares about the US, but you're watching an interview on hot 97.

***** Rodney P was part of Ldn Posse

***** Mad dog ? who that ? Rodney P and Bionic.... Had to listen to How's life in London today. Bionic had the better verses on that tune....

I didn't know people were still into london posse, I never forget when bionic shouted out wood green on a song, I got hyper, love them guys, real ukhh

Lev Myshkin lol. Dudes were listening to hiphop pre 2000 bruh. In particular UK hiphop. I used to buy HHC magazine monthly from 1991 till 97. I still got most of the magazines in the attic.

FukcKKKBNP Lol, I guess I should know, I was born in 91, so I don't know anything about the music those days! My parents grew up with Saxon Sound and Fatman etc, so the bit in between was something I only heard every now and then.

No way lol

+Espen Steen it clearly is a subgenre of hip hop, they are rapping over a beat. without hip hop, grime music WOULDNT exist

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+J P Williams As if Reggae toasting never happened. Dancehall, blues parties, shabeen's, dnb,. Rapping doesn't necessitate hip-hop. I love hip-hop, but seriously the close-mindedness to other musical forms from some fans is so irritating.

+J P Williams Grime is more influenced from dancehall than hip hop. If it was a true subgenre it would have popped in America time ago lol only reason Americans are taking an interest is because Kanye/Drake are tbh

Without the blues, funk and soul, hip hop wouldn't exist. Doesn't mean hip hop is a sub genre of funk. Stupid logic.

thank you! how can they forget jungle.

+haitiandawg A weekly appearance

Every time someone mentions Wiley on Hot 97 or on other American shows the hosts have no clue who Wiley is and doesnt seem to bother to ask either. You see it in this interview as well.

+S Kay yeh i thought that on his sway one but why the hell dont they have the likes of ghetts kano and wiley the real pioneers

+ozza lowes Am I misunderstood or are you sayin Dizzee ain't a real pioneer?

Keith ThaDon no dizzee is a pioneer for sure but he dosnt have the passion for grime as kno ghetts and wiley have he said himself he aint purely a grime mc anymore

I hear you. Tbh Wiley and Dizzee are the biggest pioneers from the early crop of grime mc's. I came up in that area/era.

Nobody is. On the sway one he did a decent job, better than skepta did when he was on here.

true

Thanks for the remind.Every should at least know gone money mad.

GANGSTER CHRONICLE 1990 (sick album) classic uk hip hop Rodney p bionic godfather uk mcs

Because he doesn’t know. Nice that he referenced Hijack. London Posse, Demon Boyz even Cookie Crew were a part of hip hop. I think he undersold how big hip hop was in the UK before his time.

+Remi .PH probably cus they had beef. he spoke about them in his interview with Sway the other day

+Temparz well sway tried to get him to talk about it

+Remi .PH why would he talk about them man , when he got shanked over that drama

21 seconds tuh tuh tuh

+Temparz What was their beef about? Was it about food or money or McD?

Making it to hot97 in 2016 after it fell off years ago is making it to y'all?? Britain must be wack lmao

chill man, it's not that deep

J smith he didn’t bring that either

the one with rosenberg

+Mohammed Farooq thanks