DJI Join eBike World With Lightweight, Full Power Motor! | EUROBIKE 2024
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Күн бұрынSo much big-hitting news at this year's Eurobike 2024 and it's only day 1! Steve Jones reveals the potentially game-changing DJI Amflow eMTB and brings you all the new motors and tech we've found so far from the show.
⏱ Timestamps ⏱
00:00 - Intro
00:12 - DJI /AM Flow eBike
06:58 - MGM Motors
09:04 - ZF Motors
11:52 - Moustache Bikes
13:18 - Raymon Tarok
14:29 - Pinion GearBox
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@embn 5 күн бұрын
Is DJI going to shake up the industry? Let us know what you think in the comments 👇
@MatthewMabborang 5 күн бұрын
DJI? Do you mean the Drone and Action Camera company? 😱
@gsbeak 5 күн бұрын
With no gearbox it's just a new motor as so many already exist.
@jokermtb 5 күн бұрын
If they make it user serviceable too, then they'll really have to ramp up production x10
@Patbike 5 күн бұрын
@@embn Setting a completely new standard for sure!
@PerSkeles 5 күн бұрын
No.
@UrbanSelfSufficiency 5 күн бұрын
I think listening to Steve Jones giving us the industry news from these bike shows are actually my favourite pieces of content from EMBN. Don't be afraid to give us more!
@dumwee 5 күн бұрын
Cant wait for Gen 2, so the bike can fly me up! no need for lifts anymore
@embn 5 күн бұрын
That would be amazing!
@dene_christie 5 күн бұрын
screw flying cars! flying bikes FTW! i can see this!
@mingouczjcz3800 2 күн бұрын
It becomes too heavy, tho.
@rogersliu1200 5 күн бұрын
DJI never holdback every time they strikes
@johngreason9964 5 күн бұрын
Dji and the MGM motors are bombshells surely, that 800 battery and its high density is truly remarkable. However. ZF. ZF is a Pandora that every motor manufacturer may wish was never let of the box. That oil bathed clutched motor, I have a feeling that's only merely a sample of what they're really working on. If you knew, first hand, what ZF is capable of in the automotive industry. Then you know what's coming.
@wolfrikvonschwarzblut3921 5 күн бұрын
When ZF decides to put all of its expertise in automotive gearboxes into developing a motor and gearbox unit for e-bikes, they will surely give Pinion a run for their money.
@ducksgoquackirl92 Күн бұрын
Dengfu Bikes offer 1040wh 52v batteries for over two years now, can be got for around 400-450 euro
@MrKlemensify Күн бұрын
@@ducksgoquackirl92 tell me more. I got one of those triangular Chinese batteries and it's heavy as a rock. Looking to upgrade battery
@ducksgoquackirl92 Күн бұрын
@@MrKlemensify there's always custom built then in your case as from the sound your already not limited to what manufacturers allow. Em3ev make quality packs
@antn8387 5 күн бұрын
The full DJI electronic ecosystem just makes sense.
@marciopires2768 5 күн бұрын
I have a DJI Mavic 3 Pro Cine, a DJI mic, I also have a DJI Power 1000, I'm on this path buying everything made by DJI
@5492sparky 5 күн бұрын
That DJI setup looks superb!
@rumbleman65 5 күн бұрын
This bikes beautiful and its specs are insane
@johnf3326 5 күн бұрын
Probably insame price too!
@rumbleman65 5 күн бұрын
@@johnf3326 yea recon its a 10k + bike - ima stick with my giant trance its more than enough bike but this thing is beautiful
@lebs83 5 күн бұрын
A bit disappointed ZF didn't release an MGU, especially considering they make the legendary 8 speed auto for cars. Must be plans for one surely.
@curioussand1339 5 күн бұрын
Really looking forward to this being a happy owner of several DJI mini drones
@cameratool 5 күн бұрын
More competitors might convince Shimano and Bosch to quit half assing everything.
@turbolevo8703 4 күн бұрын
Ze Germans like to monitor your motor for dongles, and will lock you out of your own bike if they detect any foul play.
@TheAegisClaw 5 күн бұрын
Depends entirely on price. I dont need more power. I need cheaper ebikes.
@chillstep4life 3 күн бұрын
It probably wont be cheap. But if its priced competitively it will already help to drive down prices of the competition, because I dont think very many EMTB can compete with those feature sets
@octaviannitra1845 2 күн бұрын
It’s easier to build a couple of top bikes than mass produce decent bikes. See what Tesla has been through. But considering the ever increasing cost of living it’s a good point.
@TheAegisClaw 2 күн бұрын
@@chillstep4life and yet it's a company that is built on taking drone tech down to an accessible price that no competitor can get even close to.
@The.JZA. 5 күн бұрын
Some really cool new motors and tech. The light weight, high power density batteries are especially cool. Now we need regen braking.
@garyalexander3281 5 күн бұрын
120 top NM in an ebike motor - wow - as a fan of the DJI drones interesting to see how thier ebike perfoms on the trails, great specs and looks amazing!
@embn 5 күн бұрын
If the motor is anything like their drones they're onto a winner 🎉
@HMHacki 5 күн бұрын
@SomeguysTrailrides *110kW
@losien1 5 күн бұрын
Bafang has been doing this for ages. Such high NM is nothing new…
@rogersliu1200 5 күн бұрын
it has more torque than my first car
@ChupacabraOffroad 5 күн бұрын
Great video as always, lets get that DJI bike review coming ASAP...
@jokermtb 5 күн бұрын
I feel like the emtb industry is about to move into a new era of really clever small yet powerful motors - and can you please ask if consumers can repair their own motors yet?
@tamasvarga67 5 күн бұрын
You can be 100% sure that these motors won’t be user repairable and they shouldn’t. But companies should offer refurbished motors at a fair price that would be OK.
@ericmin7645 5 күн бұрын
@@tamasvarga67 explain why they shouldn't be user repairable? although I do agree that refurbished motors should be discounted at a fair price... its just... crazy the prices they are charging...
@vwgtiron 5 күн бұрын
Here in Maine, we have the right to repair. It could be interesting to push this.
@tamasvarga67 4 күн бұрын
@@ericmin7645 Are the motors in a Tesla (or any EV) user repairable or should they be? Will you buy the equipment (special tools, diagnostic software etc.) to do the repair or you expect the fist sized 90Nm motor to be repairable with a screwdriver and an Allen key?
@OscarHernandez-xx2je 2 күн бұрын
@@tamasvarga67What does repairing a Tesla have to do with this? And asking what if he’s buying software or tools is kinda silly.
@Patbike 5 күн бұрын
That's a beautiful bike! For sure what the industy needs, a lightweight eMTB with tons of power and a large capacity battery. Hope the price for a complete bike is somewhat reasonable, and not the 10,000 dollar pricetag manufacturers are trying to get us accustomed to nowadays...
@robrider838 5 күн бұрын
15k USD at least is my bet. Maybe more.
@vwgtiron 5 күн бұрын
I'm in for 5.5k low end. 15k high end.
@andresamson8859 5 күн бұрын
ZF and DJI are improvement from current technology. Pinion MGU is a step change for bike industry. I’m on team pinion all the way
@chassdesk 5 күн бұрын
Agee MGU’s are the future
@alex_k1ng 3 күн бұрын
DJI crazy want that bike! 😄🔥
@johnreese3762 5 күн бұрын
Another great one, thanks Steve!!
@JamesRobertMTB 5 күн бұрын
So much development in the e-bike World. Unreal!
@p199a 5 күн бұрын
YES
@Rubblechops 5 күн бұрын
Pausing my plans for a TQ based bike!
@wolfrikvonschwarzblut3921 5 күн бұрын
ZF need to start working on a motor-gearbox combo like Pinion's. Their transmissions are legendary in the auto industry, so they surely have the know-how for such a project. The only other such system that I can think of is Valeo's Effigear, and that only has 6 speeds.
@goingbonzo5923 5 күн бұрын
I have a pretty decent ebike and hope to be able to afford another before my age catches up to me. Keep on keeping on!
@blackstone3469 3 күн бұрын
Very cool engine! Better than Bosch. Love dji products!! go by bike!
@Arturito2017 4 күн бұрын
I’m seriously considering an EMTB because where I live there’s is so much climbing involved at steep grades to get to enjoy the downhill. Hope this tech keeps evolving. Allows you to travel more distance in the same time
@ioandragulescu6063 5 күн бұрын
ZF is known for making good transmissions so hopefully all the gears and internals are top notch.
@robrider838 5 күн бұрын
Same power as my Rocky, but 10 lbs lighter. If this thing comes to market it will be a game changer.
@InfiniteMishaps 5 күн бұрын
All the old tech is gonna be on sale. Love that! I'll grab a Levo SL at 50% off and be on my way to the trail.
@alexrankin 4 күн бұрын
Big job on for Steve and the team. Great content thanks
@luigimassello4357 5 күн бұрын
This motor with gearbox/pinion setup is what will eventually we should see in future
@Roaming50 5 күн бұрын
The DJI looks impressive but it still looks large and screams eMTB. I want more stealth so actually the smaller MGM and ZF motors are more interesting. I was thinking of getting a Fazua Ride 60 bike but now thinking I may do better to wait another season or two on my Rise before getting a newer eMTB.
@raketoped663 5 күн бұрын
supertechnical stuff! not in the mountains but in frankfurt... thank you
@chassdesk 5 күн бұрын
Super nice to see more competition, would have like to seen them launch a gear box motor.
@helicopter12345678 5 күн бұрын
And that bike looks so close to a specialised 🤔
@grantnewby3756 5 күн бұрын
You need to introduce DJI to Pinion and we have the future of E Bikes on their way. If they can do what they have to the drone industry in terms of size and power of drone motors and batteries then we have a free thinking company out of left field who can truly be a game changer. Just like Pinion. Not the the same old bike transmission companies playing around with cassettes and materials trying to save weight and producing weak and expensive parts not fit for purpose. Bring it on.
@Denvermorgan2000 Күн бұрын
This was exciting to say the least.
@51KTM51Hurricane 5 күн бұрын
the king has entered the room
@lukasvrana6388 5 күн бұрын
This is really nice suprise, nice specs. I tend more to 38 and bigger shock, but.... it will come :) But the tech is top noch - wight to spec ratio is awesome.
@embn 5 күн бұрын
It looks very stealthy, blurring the lines even further between MTB and eMTB!
@lukasvrana6388 5 күн бұрын
@@embn yes, its a really nice bike. Something I will watch, because in the future there will be time to replace my ebike :)
@dennis.lc8407 5 күн бұрын
need to try the zf. looks like the perfect motor right now!
@st33ldi9ital 4 күн бұрын
that update for pinion is huge...
@allshownogolf 5 күн бұрын
They picked the right frame to copy! Orbea Ris-esque
@racocook6449 5 күн бұрын
Hi guys, this is the most technical Steve has ever been motor wise for sure. The DJI Amflow is driving a derailleur having its 100th anniversary so you still have to put up with a tail end chain breaker and clagg hunter. It is surely time to change to a Shimmy 11 speed or similar, don't go for a belt option on a EMTB it collects mud faster than a hippo!
@TheAngryHusky 5 күн бұрын
If the DJI bike launches mini drones, take my money.
@numaanmohamood4712 5 күн бұрын
Gosh... I bought a Fuel ExE yesterday after agonising over Fuel ExE or Levo. I have to start saving g again after seeing this DJi motor and bike. This is the one bike we all want. Gosh
@gsum1000 5 күн бұрын
The DJI bike looks excellent. I wonder whether DJI will incorporate some basic 'follow me' drone controls into the bike software. The flimsy 12 speed drivetrain should be pretty snappy with 120 Nm plus rider input going through it. Expect to spend a lot of money on chains and cassettes - or move to 9 speed.
@stefanq3514 23 сағат бұрын
Great to see more motor players in the market to challenge the component monopolies! We just need someone to propose a universal mount & universal charging standard (aka USB C on steroids) to give consumers more options for the same frame and one charger to rule them all!
@TCK71 5 күн бұрын
One word…..”Wow!”
@kawkaw20 5 күн бұрын
nice shoes tho😄
@craigbest8644 5 күн бұрын
The Amflow bike looks great, doesn't look like an EMTB. The DJI motor etc seems like it'll be a good setup.
@deadbirdwalking1159 5 күн бұрын
It's getting kinda silly with all the different motors now. At the very least standardize the form of these so that it's to some extent interchangeable.
@tamasvarga67 5 күн бұрын
Nothing in the tech world is interchangeable.
@trevelynsurfnelson193 4 күн бұрын
I just bought a Spectral ON CF 8 I thought I loved it... am I always going to be behind the 8 ball with the rapid Tech advances. This is just like getting a computer in the 90's, only to have it outdated in 2 months..... do we think this will ever level off?
@PoloHungary 4 күн бұрын
Raymon bike very good!
@tim__sadler 5 күн бұрын
Given the questions about servicing and reliability which often pop up around ebike motors and components (particularly in climates like the UK), it will be the companies who offer support who will succeed in the long run - so regardless of features, how can the new entrants to the market (like DJI) provide the after-market support required to built a consumer base with the bike industry already under so much strain?
@ChrisWilmshurst 5 күн бұрын
If their drone servicing and after-care support with DJI Care is anything to go by, it'll be top tier.
@SyahAz-vp1wd 5 күн бұрын
@@ChrisWilmshurst agree
@mattcgtx4809 5 күн бұрын
On the pinion system, how is its efficiency / range compared to standard drivetrains?
@wizzyno1566 5 күн бұрын
I'll be impressed by DJI if the motor turns out to be reliable.
@porroco 5 күн бұрын
Off course why they woulnt, they build drones and motor should be 100% reliable. Their smart battery noone cant compite with them. Shimano doest not has storage mode
@lav1daloca Күн бұрын
Any motor that comes out from now on without integrated gearbox that gets rid of the deraileure like Pinion is DOA😂
@LeftCoaster113 5 күн бұрын
So, did all the engineers at Shimano die?what happend! Smaller units definitely seem to be the direction. I love it. Great video guys!
@siriosstar4789 4 күн бұрын
Hold on ! apparently the 120Nm/ 1000watts is only available IN the top assist level for thirty seconds . Compare that with the Sachs/BMZ motor where it's 112 Nm is available in tour as well as the highest assist indefinitely without over heating .
@RoissyAngel 5 күн бұрын
Do they cost considerably more than my car? Probably. Do a video on how ludicrous over-priced emtbs are - go on, go on, go on!
@Robo-rg4eh 5 күн бұрын
Do you know if it is it repairable? Will they sell spare parts?
@matthewwakeham2206 5 күн бұрын
Nice effort by the camera man at the beginning there. Almost missed it though, had to rewind.
@tonyvaccarelli7950 5 күн бұрын
when and where can i get one and how much ?
@emotioneering 5 күн бұрын
Great video, thanks. Does anyone make a motor that has true zero drag once 15.5mph is exceeded? My EP8-equipped MTB is awful, my Ride60 gravel bike is close to zero? I think this would be the biggest advance in e-bike motor usability
@romma11 5 күн бұрын
Hope we can get it in poor USA
@FlyingFun. 5 күн бұрын
Just had a look for pricing, amflow carbon starts at €7k so not going to be cheap lol.
@jamesdorsijiuhjuh6151 5 күн бұрын
DJI just mic dropped the whole bike industry!! They'll all be scrambling now to keep up!
@helicopter12345678 5 күн бұрын
So will we see this in other brands Mondraker Trek etc
@DaBinChe 5 күн бұрын
What is the IPX rating for the DJI? I see many Ebike motor companies going under as well as some ebike companies.
@embn 5 күн бұрын
We don't have an IPX rating yet but we'll keep our eyes peeled!
@craig8638 5 күн бұрын
New drinking game, every time he says “folks” take a shot.
@mayday6880 Күн бұрын
15:30 great, but what does a 5$ brushed Mabuchi motor there?
@trailblazeratv6306 5 күн бұрын
Looks like the new Stumpy ???
@whitest_kyle 5 күн бұрын
Time to sell my Fuel EXe lol
@echidna1263 5 күн бұрын
Wow, the future is truly something that is happening in the Emtb industry. You can truly imagine a world free of cars and healthy humans loving life.😊
@asifitmatters1 5 күн бұрын
You must be high!
@Blowfeld20k 5 күн бұрын
@@asifitmatters1 Or just naively clueless and optimistic ....................
@wizzyno1566 5 күн бұрын
Err. No.
@Andybarney555 5 күн бұрын
Good weed you have there
@IIISentorIII 5 күн бұрын
Are you trapped in the basement of a house or something for the last 50 years?
@flookeusch8597 5 күн бұрын
My favorit innovation on the EUROBIKE 2024: New, stepless e-bike motor from VILLIGER DYNAMIC (made in Switzerland) You will find them directly after the Galleria at the entrance to Hall 8.0 (Stand H28)
@FlyingFun. 5 күн бұрын
fantastic tech and nice to see dji giving it a go, I'm guessing they are needing to branch out now that their drones are going to be banned lol.. sounding like a brocken record I need to say that we need prices to come down on these things, when they cost as much as a car there is something not right, but I also know that new inovative tech comes at a price, still, we have had ebikes now for enough years for them to be considered not really a new thing anymore right?
@davidstepro7486 5 күн бұрын
I live in the USA and we suck for varieties of ebike availability. All these cool new bikes you are showing are not available here. Why not and when?
@chassdesk 5 күн бұрын
Land managers have been slow to approve class 1 bikes on trails is holding e-bikes in the USA but keeps improving every year.
@andresamson8859 5 күн бұрын
Current Bosch and Shimano motor are plenty powerful with the battery capacity that we currently have. Any more than this will deplete the battery too quickly… Sure it’s nice to have a 30sec boost mode , but i would rather not have a derailler /chain and the maintenance that comes with it
@Varaxis 5 күн бұрын
What the heck is that sound at 5:08? I heard it before at a friend's house, who was confused by it. Thought it was the first time I had it happen to me, that I had to rewatch to confirm it was in the video itself.
@garethharper7901 4 күн бұрын
What about the IP rating? When are we going to get motors that can keep the water out?
@IchimokuCloud 5 күн бұрын
As I recall the TQ motor on the Hai Bike was a total disaster. Was that about 5 years or so ago? By now the bugs and tech should be worked out and look forward to seeing how this new take on the TQ goes.
@wizzyno1566 5 күн бұрын
So you'd bet on a motor that is already a proven failure? Brave.
@SonnyDarvishzadeh 20 сағат бұрын
2024 has been the most exciting ebike innovation year. More integrity, data, motor power and efficiency, etc. On the other hand, suddenly having tens of options in motor brands alone feels paralyzing.
@emtbadventure 5 күн бұрын
Please DJI, sell the electric frameset with the right pricing so we can put our own preferred parts.
@funband1t198 5 күн бұрын
this! imho there are far too few framesets available.
@franciscocardoso7882 5 күн бұрын
Nothing new here, call me when they release the drone version of an ebike 😅
@embn 5 күн бұрын
How good would that be! 🔥
@CirLL88 5 күн бұрын
Is there any possibility make another China tour for DJI 🕵🏻♂️
@MrKlemensify Күн бұрын
Light weight of thr battery is impressive. How to get my hands on one?
@Vanguard152 5 күн бұрын
Lifetime oil bath my ass!! Thats what BMW said about the ZF Gearbox and ZF recommends a oil change @ 160tkm. Nothing is for life...
@qin02 5 күн бұрын
What’s gonna be the import tariff on this?
@RobHill00 5 күн бұрын
Surprised DJI went with a chain drive and not a gear box? Guess it’s probably in development?! Let’s hope they don’t release a ‘new’ motor as often as a new drone!😳 Gear box and motor is the way forward for e-bikes!👍🏻
@mustclime5311 5 күн бұрын
do drone makers know how to water proof motors?
@porroco 5 күн бұрын
They good thing it can integrate sram t type transmision to the display with shimano it cant be done, i own a yeti160e and ep801 is hard to get to keep up now days ebikes, ep8 is out of any update so can only see batt range with that lame 6 bars
@80211Denver 5 күн бұрын
US market won't ever see DJI motors sadly.
@ultimateactiontv8645 4 күн бұрын
Dji bombshell.. Does this mean other main stream engine makes will increase the power output of their own engines
@QwertyQwerty-bd3tm 4 күн бұрын
I wish there was regenerative braking.
@sidneysirany 4 күн бұрын
would this work or swap out my Specialized Levo Turbo SL motor?
@courcheval 5 күн бұрын
Price?
@1jdm408 5 күн бұрын
How fast does it go ?
@embn 5 күн бұрын
The speed will probably be limited based on the laws in your country 👍
@porroco 5 күн бұрын
They going to leave shimano behind, better software better supply on demant & better battery. Shimano cant even sell ep801 because they are only dealer sales and hard to get on amazon
@jojoaspi7398 5 күн бұрын
Ducati, McLaren and any other car manufacturers out there who wants to dive in the emtb world. TAKE NOTE!! This is how you introduce yourself to e-biking.
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