Never thought the time would come where I could download more FPS.

This is going to give 30-series user a massive boost. Also, more likely to shy away from the 40-series which can be good thing.

“I think this is pretty cool” bro this mod is a completely game changer. I’m playing Cuberpunk on my 3080ti at 171fps

If you have an RTX 30 series or even a 20 series, congratulations, this is literally just free performance. Bless this modder!

Just a note on the hair artifact issues, in Alan Wake 2 at least, that can be fixed. In the game's ini file, you have to set bLensDistortion to false. I don't know what other effects that has, but the game looks perfectly fine to me

Thanks to your video, I tested the mod for a few minutes (only) on the Witcher 3 RT and cyberpunk PT and it's really transformative! With dlss in conjunction with FSR 3, I'm now quite hopeful with running future demanding titles for a few years. Thanks a bunch!

LukeFZ has released a mod to replace FSR 2 with FSR 3 Frame Generation, and it works with older cards.

I played thru AW2 with this mod+DLSS on the 2080ti and it really improved the experience

Makes me believe Nvidia could easily enable DLSS 3 frame gen on any RTX. But they choose not to.

Man this why I love pc gaming

Note that you'll have to disable a lot of post processing effects like lens distortion, vignette, chromatic aberration, depth of field and motion blur to remove a lot of the artefacts from frame generation.

@DigitalFoundry should cover Lossless Scaling with Frame Generation next.

Alex: "This will help ageing GPUs like the RTX 3080." Me, with a GTX 760: puppetsideeye.jpg

I used it with my 3080 12GB to play through AW2 Final Draft. 1440p DLSS quality, high settings and even RT turned on and averaged 100-120 FPS through the entire game. It's was absolutely amazing.

Been using the LukeFZ Mod on Steam Deck which works with any GPU. Of the Multiple games I tested it works perfectly in Withcer 3 , Lords of the Fallen 2 , Robocop Rouge City, Ratchet and Clank. In other games there's UI Ghosting and double image that appears when you pan around. I will be testing more games soon

Oh hey Im using this mod for Cyberpunk. What a godsend it is. All the Raytracing settings turned on. Graphics to high. 4k. DLSS perf. And I'm still getting 80 fps on the 3090. Downloading free FPS. Imagine that.

The ghosting in Alan Wake can be fixed. I don't remember how to do it off the top of my head but its just a file you need to edit.

I exhibited the frame-time issue in Assassins Creed Odyssey, I was getting a consistent 60fps but it was still stuttering one hour, and the next time I started, it was gone. I spent days trying everything I could think of and every settings combination in game, in drivers, Nvidia Profile inspector, different fps limiters. It drove me nuts. The I disabled Hyperthreading as a last ditch attempt and it fixed it. The stutter was gone and it was gone forever! EDIT: Just to add that over the years in general testing and observance, I think I have only ever seen better performance in a game with Hyperthreading enabled once (Cyberpunk), and even then it was negligible. In my experience it has only ever added stuttering. I think HT is best utilised when rendering video/3d, computational activity in the background etc.

This is pretty amazing. I used the DLSSTweaks variation of this mod (I had issues with the base version) and I'm very impressed. I averaged 81.20fps in the benchmark on a stock EVGA 3070 with path tracing turned on at 1440p using DLSS Performance (720p internal res). Some of the artifacting around objects is unsightly to me but hey, I'm getting more than a 2x boost in performance with this mod so I'm not going to complain too much!

I'm guessing that shadow jitter is because of motion vectors, if you can only have one vector per pixel then shadows and other transparent overlays will cause weirdness since only part of the pixel's color will follow the motion. You can see similar issues in smaller games that use TAA or motion blur and don't seem to have set up for special cases, e.g. in-world surfaces displaying changing text having weird color blending going on when the text changes (because that generates no motion) or shadows and lights leaving streaks.

Thanks to this mod I can play Starfield and Cyberpunk with Ultra quality (also heavily modded Skyrim with ENB), 1440p, on a 2070 super making 70-120 fps, so it's pretty great (there are some ghosting and shadow issues, sometimes the UI flickers when opening/closing it).

I have a 2080, and I have to say that this mod is downright magic for me his card. Something like The Witcher 3 runs at about 45 fps with the basic RT settings on. It doesn't feel great to play at that frame rate. With this mod though I get 90+ fps and it feels fantastic. Seriously gives new new life to this aging card. Also tried it with Starfield and Cyberpunk 2077 and it was the same story there, absolutely incredible stuff!

Thanks a lot Alex !! I didn't know this mod, I downloaded it and it freed up some significant FPS for my CPU bound i5 RTX3060! 😁

Love this. Seriously useful coverage of great tech that everyone can use, not just the bleeding edge

All hail modders! Thank you for bringing more life to my RTX 3070.

So amazing, I was getting weirded out that my laptop 4070 could beat my full 3090 when frame gen was there and I like frame gen honestly. This is a nice boost for my 3090's lifespan 😄

Hey Alex, great video as always! Will you be releasing a similar one soon for the Lossless Scaling that you mentioned? If you do- try both the stable and the beta (the dev is currently experimenting with a newer API in the beta that seems to work better for some usage cases). For testing LS I would recommend creating nvcp profile and setting the power management to High Performance, as well as enabling HAGS from Windows. Inside LS set the vsync to max refresh rate. Usually, it is recommended to cap the game to 1/2 of the monitor refresh rate, although the beta should be able to work without capping the game if using vsync. And one more thing, if testing the app, please also test the upscalers it has, the developer created a very cool spatial upscaler that does a better job than fsr1 and uses machine learning. Also, the dev created a Bicubic CAS- bicubic upscaler with added CAS which also does wonders on older hardware (performance-wise).

12:45 This COULD be stealth micro-shader compilation. I've seen a few games do this and after a extended period of time it goes away. Even the new Enshrouded tells you of the shader compiling in background but its clear even after %100 done its still doing some because the game gets smoother and more playable after a while of playing.

on amd card 6000 and 7000 you can also get afmf frame generation in any game meaning frame gen is now on rtx30/40 as well as rx60/70

I tried it in Cyberpunk on my 3080 ti and was really impressed with it. I was one of those people swearing I'd never want to use frame gen but in practice it only added 10ms input latency and was so much smoother I definitely think it's worth it. there were some visual issues that were annoying enough for me to uninstall it but the game is supposed to get official FSR3 support and if we can use DLSS for upscaling coupled with FSR3 for frame gen on non 40-series cards I can't wait for the official implementation.

Been testing this thoroughly for days and yeah it's pretty darn good. OSD frame counters can be buggy, for example when running the benchmark with the built in counter reporting say 60 fps and the Asus GPU Tweak / RTSS showing double that at 120. You can get this to show properly but it depends on where / when you enable the frame gen in the benchmark and what other ray tracing settings you have enabled

It's been nice to use on Cyberpunk with my 2077, I was playing with just RT reflections at DLSS Balanced but now have the RT Lighting on medium. I went from 40-50 fps to 65-75 fps and input latency feels fine in a title like that.

i been using Lossless Scaling Frame generation with these Frame Generation mods at the same time in games like RDR2 and Cyberpunk and the performance boost is INSANE feels like a i have a 4090 lol... and the input latency dosen't feel bad since i mostly use a controller... Though you NEED to know how to set it up all properly or you will have A LOT of jitter and artifacts!

LukeFZ's FSR 3 mod works with all cards with all upscalers. It works amazing on my 7800xt. It replaces dlss so it handles UI the same way dlss 3 handles it. For lowest input latency on non Nvidia cards you need to cap your fps with the in game limiter so that your GPU usage doesn't go above 95% during gameplay. With Nvidia GPUs you should use reflex to get the lowest input lag. The hair issue is because of post processing effects. In AW2 it can be fixed by turning off lens distortion if I remember correctly. I believe the frame time problem happens when the GPU load increases suddenly by a lot which often happens when panning the camera in Avatar. It happens to me on Avatar with my 7800xt but not on Cyberpunk with the mod. The real interesting part is seeing if consoles will implement FSR 3 frame gen to do 120 fps from 60 fps in single player games. That would be absolutely awesome.

This is incredible! I wish 4K benchmarks were also shown

You guys put in work

This is heresy. Nvidia said the 30 series were in capable of performing frame generation. And they would never lie to we consumers because they have our best interests at heart.

Hey Alex, I'd like to see data on increase in latency too. Maybe in next video?

For the last, inconsistent part. Check if you have signal RGB or similar if by turning off, you notice any different behaviour 😊

Hey Alex, I don't have the same tools but at least in The Witcher III "next gen" (with maximum RT) it seems to me that limiting the framerate from the Nvidia's Control Panel, although it doesn't completely eliminate the stuttering, it improves it quite a bit (unfortunately, as you may know, Rivatuner does not work with the mod). It would be good if you took a look at it.

it could be cool that you test the software called Lossless scaling, it's early but pretty good too

Using Cyberpunk PT on a 3080 with this mod was great. Unfortunately I'm cpu limited so it wasnt perfect but it was a LOT better than just having no rt and running at dlss q. Had a great time.

Using a 3070 worked well for me on: - CP 2077 - Spider-Man / Miles morales Didn’t work so well for me on: - Robocop (have to reset it every few minutes, it kinda loses sync) - Jedi Survivor (steep base FPS drop, many artifacts)

Been using this mod on my RTX 3080 + 5600X PC for about two months now to play Cyberpunk at 1440p and it has truly been a blessing. Using DLSS on Quality mode. The increase in FPS is amazing. Now easily getting over 100 FPS while driving around. Ray Reconstruction seems to be working fine because reflections look crisp and much clearer than before. Only weird thing I've noticed so far is the screen goes black for a second after pausing the game. Also there's a noticeable glitch that happens at the bottom of the screen (think of a large Windows taskbar) when you're in a car. It's especially bad when it's sunny and you're in 3rd person view behind the car. It's like the image is out of sync. I am more than willing to tolerate those small glitches because the performance uplift is truly astounding. Feels like I got a new GPU for free.

Looks pretty solid for the most part. Bit curious to try this on low-end cards (without RT ofc)

I have been playing Alan Wake 2 Pathtraced using a 3080 + DLSS Perf @ 4k with this mode for over 10h already and it has been an amazing experience so far! This mod basically is a free "GPU upgrade" to a 40series card in framegen titles.

Thank you DF!

Wow, this is incredible! Me and my RTX 3080 are really going to enjoy putting this mod to good use.

The drawbacks are a dealbreaker for me but it's pretty cool.

For those that don't know many of the issues concerning the HUD and compatibility have already been fixed. It's a brave new world.

Luke mod can be used with amd gpu as well, I m using it on my rx5700. the mod can be configured to apply frame gen at native resolution for max. graphical fidelity in many games. the mod can be configured to eliminate ui flickering completely on games supporting dlss fg too. it's a all win situation for every gpu...

This is amazing!

Not many times I've said "holy shit" out loud to a video

why did you not post a link in description?

Great vid

100%. I was thinking of getting rid of my 3070, but this mod has made AW2 and Cyberpunk so much more playable (despite the artifacts), that I'm not even considering upgrading anymore.

Wouldn't it have made more sense to put out a direct FSR3 vs DLSS3 comparison before this? The actual quality comparison was the most important and compelling part of the video, and because this is only a mod, it was cut short! Looking forward to a more thorough review of the differences, modded or not.

There's also LukeFZ and PureDark which their FSR3 supports AMD and GTX GPUs.

I have been using the mod on cyberpunk to just see how it does and it ranges from good to ok. I use a 3080 at 3440x1440p and use Ultra RT with the PT mod added on top ( the mod adds PT to RT as a hybrid and you don't lose FPS and if you use basic you gain FPS ), the mod has a lot of artifacts when driving or using roach in The Witcher 3, usually at the bottom of the screen but the camera movement feels fine and looks fine for the most part. Think ill go back to native FPS though overall.

Around 12:00 @frametime issues. You can have problems with the system memory compression or fragmentation, where the CPU have issues reaching resources from the memory. This is caused by an extensive gameplay and leaky software from the developer. Look for odd memory growth in task manager.

Lol and Bryan Catanzaro ran his mouth about how Turing and Ada didn't have good enough optical flow accelerators or some bs.

I might try it for phantom liberty. I have a 3070 and although path tracing worked on the main game, it wasnt even close to good enough on phantom liberty, even at 1080p dlss q Hopefully they also optimized phantom liberty though. The performance could get so bad it was totally baffling to me and i didnt even make it through the whole introduction chapter because i was so annoyed with the performance. In the main city i was getting 30-40fps with path tracing even at 1440p balanced. I got 15 fps in phantom liberty with those settings 😂

I have been playing 2077 with this mod on a 3070, truly amazing stuff

I followed a tip to set Vsync in the Nvidia control panel and then cap the framerate.

For anyone interested, PureDark is working on FSR3 implementation on DX11 games and should be releasing soon. Modded Skyrim users can rejoice! Looking forward to implementing frame gen on the Skyrim Nolvus modlist with my RTX 3080 3840x1600 ultrawide setup.

8:33 Bro what was that car turn? 💀💀

I was able to run cyberpunk at high settings with full path tracing enabled with DLSS performance mode and FSR3 framegen on my RTX 2070 at around 50-60 fps in the city centre. I was really impressed with what it coupled with DLSS could achieve on such a comparatively weak GPU (compared to the recommended GPUs for path tracing)

In games that it works great, it's fantastic like Starfield and CP77. In some others it has big issues like Midnight Suns though where it creates massive ghosting around character animations. If it can be further improved, will be a massive boon for older gen RTX cards.

Well there is fsr3+fg on non rtx cards as well. I can confirm that "The Last of Us" runs at +60fps in 1440p on high settings with a 1080ti.

Been using this mod on cyberpunk on my rtx 2060 6gb and im a simple man all i wanted was more frames and this did the job. Course its not perfect but its a price to pay if we want more fps.

I did some testing of this mod with CyberPunk 2077 on an RTX3090 and I was very impressed, worked pretty well. However, when I tried it with Luke Ross VR mod it crashed several times. So I had to turn off frame generation for VR, they don't' seem to be compatible.

Really happy with this mod. I can finally play The Witcher 3 & Cyberpunk with raytracing enabled at an acceptable frame rate on my 2070 Super.

Wish ppl would actually link to these mods when talking about them -_-

Nvidia Be like : FrAmE GeN iS nOt PoSsIbLe oN 20/30 sErIEs

I have a 3090 and played through Cyberpunk with path tracing and max settings at 4k. DLSS Performance though and got 60fps for 99% of the playthrough with minor drops to 55 and some in heavy in game cut scenes do drop to high 40's.

You should try the frame interpolation implementation in Lossless Scaling some time. Apparently the developer made it available for _all_ GPUs.

This mod is a game changer. I just beat Cyberpunk with path tracing enabled on my 3080, and goddamn was it an experience. By the way, there are versions of the mod that enable FSR 3 on older GPUs as well. I tested it with a 1050 ti, and it works. Definitely not recommended, but it does work.

About the UI issue. PureDark, (DLSS mod author) fixed this issue. Through his mod, you can add DLSS to many other games (gtav for example) which don't have dlss by default. Also you can add Nvidia and AMD fg of course, and there's option for ui fix. Here: /watch?v=5yS_Whcs4Eg is video from the author. And yesterday, he posted on patreon that he got fsr3 fg working for dx11 games, so this is very interesting.

This looks cool as hell!

Thanks for the coverage DF Team.

Here we go! Let the frame gen wars begin! It’s a win win for gamers.

That Reflex auto-frame capping is just incredible. A bit OTT but I needed to say this.. It's so important for everyone with VRR displays to limit your fps to 116 on a 120hz panel (or 157 fps on a 165hz, etc...) and use Vsync+ Gsync if the game doesn't support Reflex. The latency difference is huge!

rtx 3050 here i love this mod it works great on multiple games. starfield ultra over 60 fps finally love it still testing games but this is awesome so far

12:50 the plant you use to jump from is causing that.

Been using it on Alan Wake 2 for my second playthrough and oh my God the performance boost on my 3080 is insane. More noticeable ghosting for sure but it's honestly so worth it.

So this isnt dlss 3.0 frame gen, its fsr frame gen being injected into dlss. Well fsr frame gen without fsr upscaling is a massive improvement in having the screen not look like its made out of wiggling worms, so pairing that with dlss sounds like it can be worthwhile.

Thank you. So I just came from Hardware Unboxed where they talk about the official version of this being in the works where it will support any upscaling solution in combination with AMD framegen, but this mod only allows for FSR to be used with it?

I have a 3080 and been waiting to upgrade to a 40/50 series to play cp2077 the way it was showcased with all the RT/OD. Now, hopefully, I can give it a true go without nose dive performance.

Jittery frame times are not a subjective issue nor a subjective occurrence. People not perceiving it the same way is irrelevant, because most people still have not played at a higher refresh rate than 30/sometimes 60. But just because they cannot perceive the issue does not mean the issue does not exist and should not even really enter the conversation from a strictly technical standpoint, as everyone I have ever shown a truly locked 120-165 refresh rate experience to without saying anything will always mention how smooth it looks in comparison to how they play the game. Some may report initial headaches or eye strain because they're not accustomed to it -- that's fair, because I can experience the same when playing at low frame rates for a certain period of time -- but the actual smoothness and benefits, and therefore the issues that prevent that, are not up for debate. The technical side of things that can *cause* it, such as different PC configurations, Windows bloat moodiness, driver related issues, etc. are subjective. But the human element is not, and I am tired of people pretending that it is.

Meanwhile at Nvidia HQ: BAN THESE MODS NOW!!!

This mod is god sent 🥺 I’m trying it on some games and they run so much smoother and higher settings too 😭

I am experiencing something similar in Hunt Showdown for a long time, where sometimes the VRR feels like it's not completely "locking in". I've had the same behaviour with an RTX 3080 and now with a 4090 in combination with an LG freesync monitor. The framerate is as high as always, but the gameplay feels choppy and is plagued with micro stutters. What usually fixes the problem for me is pressing "alt+enter" twice to retoggle fullscreen mode. So my best bet is, that it has something to do with how windows handles fullscreen in conjuction with VRR.

I hate the fake rendering future. I want native rendering with actual anti aliasing back.

Those frametimes 🤮

I just tested on my Lenovo (RTX 3070) and the results are very impressive. Still a few artefacts but it's amazing

I am using my old ass 1080TI for this mod on Cyber Punk and getting 115 to 145 FPS 1440p while using fsr and dlss. Setting are mostly medium low but I have a couple settings at high. I am very impressed.

Do a Suicide Squad vs Batman Arkham Knight analysis video.

Nvidia has 0 excuse now for frame generation being ported to older RTX cards.... I do not mind a latency hit if that means better frame rate..... Nvidia engineers might be gate keeping some way because management told them so

A good update on the Frame time problems: For me, once I get this kind of problems, I just need to set a different resolution then back (like going from 1440p to 1080p, then back to 1440p). Seems like the renderer is reset and everything gets back to how it should be.

You should check out the "lossless scaling" implementation of frame gen