What's really funny is he did end up dropping one of these like a year after this video damaging some of the memory channels. It still works except like 2 mem channels.

Linus is typing....

If you drop the first one , xD I can't stop laughing

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2023 - 64 cores in your laptop

Nathan Hamman mid 2023 128 cores in a potato

2020 128 cores in one system

More like 2030

@@danielkaiser8343 bruh Amphere got 80 core in 2020

But I'll never use AMD for virtualization....

Nvidia: Hold my beer instead!

Sauvik Roy nvidia makes cpus?

@@chrisding1976 What is but a GPU, array of tiny CPUs!

@@SauvikRoy you're technically correct

@@uzernaim1648 That's the best kind of correct.

Der Bewohner When something is the best, even by such a small amount that it makes practically no difference, companies can afford to overcharge greatly because people will still buy it.

they aren't the best anymore though, but they are the most expensive

Jesper Andersen Xeon Plats are the fastest CPUs out there now (if I remember right Platinums broke Cinebench R15 and made it obsolete). But they are also absurdly priced. The 24C for $5K.....

xZiddel If your an enterprise buyer planing to build servers for a company data center. Where costs and power efficiency is a big issue. Why pay more for the best Intel 28 cores when the AMD 32 cores can deliver the same equivalent level of performance?

Chris Bautista if I remember right 28 Xeon Platinums are faster than 32C EPYCs. For 2 vs 2 CPU scenario the 8180 combo has a R15 score of 8.3K cb while 64C EPYC is under 7K cb. But that isn't the whole story of the price though, server CPUs are different from desktop. If I remember right intel Platinums are meant to run on alternative software instead of the very expensive yearly server software. Server software, like LS-Dyna costs like $6,000 per year to use...and a company spends tens of thousands of dollars yearly for that type of software even for old processor like Opterons and 5 year old Xeons...this CPU can actually save you money.

Linux sure is proud.

At 9:35 Linus: "Speaking of services..." Me: *stops video*

Don't mind doing this myself, as I pay for floatplane :P

1:40

Glad to know I wasn’t the only one

dimitris aspetakis w

Cash

You mean you are DEVASTATED ?

Lol

Wait, he did that? Why?

Mike Jameson Pants sponsorship.

*disappointed

Lazy Yes, if you refrigerated it

badSyntax your name haunts me

Only in Intel's press releases er I mean imagination.

XXXDEADTACION your name haunts me

to soon

Just like your ass is basically the playground for a gay club. :D

Red Phoenix ur mother is the playground of crabs boi

And that is why I am getting Threadripper. In the event I end up needing ECC, I don't have to make a new build for that.

Everything industrial is expensive. Companies need it, so they have to pay it. It's just how the world works.

MazeFrame why does the average consumer even need ecc?

And totally ignoring the huge clock speed of the i9 over the platinum 8180. Right? It’s tit for tat. But. Personally. If they’d compared dual xeon gold 6154 CPUs with the i9, I think the story would be a bit closer to realistic.

Naaah, everyone knows that clockspeed doesn't matter... right? But yeah, they probably should have at least lowered the clocks of the i9 or something along those lines

TinkerTavern check out the specs of the Gold 6154 CPUs. They’re glorious. A perfect middle ground. And all those PCI-e lanes… That’s what I miss about dual Xeon workstations. Ate up adobe suites, all the layering, importing and exporting. Compared to my i7-8700k w/64gb ram and a Titan Xp, honestly, there seems to be no real difference in performance over my old dual hex core Xeon system with 48gb ram, running at 2.93Ghz.. even back when I got my first dual core Pentium 4 back in the early 2000’s. I had a quad P3 server running 4 933mhz slot 1 type CPUs I think it was, and even then, the old quad rig demolished the brand new p4.

I think 32gb is enough for a blender scene

Ander Losa Maybe so, but it's not exactly impossible to remove the extra RAM in the other one, so they both have 32GB And if it's going to cause variables from the number of channels, just use 2*16 or 4*8 for both, so they're in dual or quad channel

Indeed. I got myself a pair of 2680 v2s for 550 CAD last October, threw them into a z620, and could not be happier. Saving over a thousand dollars compared a similarly performing TR 1920x system.The single threaded performance (compared to a 5930k) leaves some to be desired but the performance in Zbrush and Maya has been great so far.

E5 1650v2 here @4.2 GHz, a beast at ~130$ US for the CPU and 150$ US for a quad channel ECC supporting motherboard. Performs well in all kinds of games for a fraction of the price for new CPUs. But shhhss don't spread the word too much or prices will rise :D

Nothing to add :)

- username checks out.

You are correct 3 years later

I've got a couple L5640s. Basically a slightly lower frequency version of the X5650, similar price and uses less power. I love the old server hardware you can get second-hand.

Same here, on a Dell Precision 690 that was a scrap item from a local tech company. Plays all major titles full quality (Crysis included) at 1080p@60fps. Love this beast, wish i knew more about upgrading the CPU & ram.

im rocking a precision M6700 that i picked up for 300 bucks last week. 32gb of ram, i7 3940mx overclocked to 4.1 ghz, and a k5100m. Smokes most modern "gaming" laptops and has better build quality.

ben russ While I'm glad that you got such a great machine for a low cost, you truly don't know much about modern gaming laptops. They've had full, desktop grade GPUs ever since the release of Pascal. This makes them more potent then most Maxwell based gaming *desktops.*

While they DID remove the "m" from the name of the 1000 series mobile GPUs, and even used the same core in SOME cases, do not mistake a mobile 1000 for a desktop 1000 series. They are still under-clocked, and under-performing when compared to their desktop brothers and that is BEFORE you run into thermal throttling issues with the laptop(s) and unless you get a behemoth you WILL have thermal throttling with the 1070 and 1080 (mobile versions) My comment regarding the fact that my laptop will smoke most modern "gaming" laptops was supposed to emphasize the quotes. I know that Pascal was a HUGE improvement for mobile gaming, but most so called "gaming" laptops will have a 1050 AT BEST.

yes, yes he did, he dropped an 8180 and broke 2 of the memory channels

yes.

The real question is. ...... This comment was from a year ago.. But then two random dudes was replying to this recently

super joechew because youtube recommended it, this was the top comment and we replied to it

@@sjoec3329 don't mind me,just reminding OP of this comment

Or the current Epyc generation.

Matthewv1998 EPYC already destroys Xeons

@ElZamo92 The IO on Epyc is serious business!

AMD got its groove back and is countering Intel with "lol more cores".

ecks dee the waiting meme. i'll wait until 2999 when the 9999999999k will come out, it'll be so much better than a 8700k

Don't get it.

???

I still like Austin Evans as much as other tech youtubers.

Hey guys!!!!😍 this is Austin......🤣😂🤣😂🤣

Which canal?

Good one sir

You dont need to admit shit thats obvious

Yes, the other one can't be seen.

Yes

Trampstamp.

Is it a real tattoo?

I was wondering the same thing. A little garden snake, kinda cute?

This is Linus we're talking about. Epyc will never come within a mile of his offices. Remember, he fangirled all over Intel's "5GHz 28 core processor!!!" at Computex.

Yes he appreciates stability so therefore No AMD.

Rasmus Rasmussen are you an Intel reply bot? What a random thing to say.

Chris H No it's not random It's actually what he said and The Reason Why he doesn't Ryzen and AMD chips in general

Noobish epyc is brand new and we already have a KZfaq commenter that's an expert on them and how intel is just sooooo much better.

lol

DAMN BOI C H I L L *C H I L L*

I am only wearing an underpant..

omg same

I don't understand what did he do wrong? My bad just a bit slow sometimes

oppresion must STOP we shoul rise UP

Shrek, you’re on the wrong channel. Try “jacksfilms”.

He's Canadian.... :)

Frogox ! #deathtoallwhitemales

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Every word is made up.

Red Phoenix wooosh

RyTrapp0 I do browse that site for fun.

Very good , mate. Good job.

Blyat

Linus Nitrogen Tips

You see the tiny, tiny fans blowing over both of the 2.5Ghz chips there? Yeah. That shit normally sits inside a 1U rack case, in a server rack full of them! They got to clock them low otherwise your datacenter would melt down. In a desktop case you can have a giant, 120MM cooler or even a water cooling block, so you can clock the desktop chips much, much higher.

With a cooling solution you described, you could push it to.. maybe 3.8-4ghz, if you're lucky.

3.1ghz/4.3ghz(turbo)

@@OneThousand98 Not even close. The heatsinks may be small but they compensate by coupling it with a very high rpm fan.

NIGHT RIDE MUSIC *when you come on Linus*

underwear too

And you are the gullible audience they hope to catch!

At least he didn't drop down to his shreddies this time.

and Butt Wipes.

how do you handle NUMA pinning?

how much points you get on cinebench r15?single thread and multithread performance

Proove that you have that Xeon by answering the questions above me

My server has dual xeons not overclocked and extremely old (E5405)

linuxmind I haven't touched anything to do with NUMA so I'm assuming it's all default

What about EPYC!?

TheAnimystro Sooooooooo... AMD. I remember how you tried to beat us in the CPU market by choosing multi core performance over single core performance.... and now, you’ve done it. You released a CPU that handles multi threaded applications better than ours. *_TOUGH LUCK, HERE IS OUR SUPER CORE. YOU CANNOT BEAT US, EVEN AT YOUR OWN GAME_*

Its just multiple dies glued together. They are in a fact separate CPU's with numa blocks and every disadvantage connected to it. TR/Epyc is just that. multiple CPUs in single socket. If Intel is forced they can do it as well, there is nothing great about it. Single 28-core CPU is way bigger technical achievement than thowing multiple 8c dies under one HS and calling it 32 core....

yes. TR is a Glued core, but the "glue" is infinitely better than mutisocketing, so the point is still there. Plus, a single die 28core is ridiculously expansive, and the following cost tradeoff is orders of magnitude more than the performance gain.

REGARDLESS OF VALUE, Xeon and core i9 are OBJECTIVELY better in terms of RAW PERFORMANCE. We’ll have to wait for threadripper 2 benches in the future though

DOC Zenith it also happens to be way more economic and easier to manufacture and will likely be the only kind of way to yield any high performance chips in the future. It IS an achievement, getting the kind of scaling that Zen does without the insane disadvantages having separate dies glued together faces. Is it really more impressive to have a 28c/56t CPU cost 10 grand rather to have a 32c/64t competitor that comes in an order of magnitude less?

You forgot the in 2018 lol

Voxel To answer that, it's a 'maybe'. I have an Intel HD Graphics 4000 (sed laif.) And it can easily run Sleeping Dogs, and Just Cause 3, with semi-spec settings. Yes, requires optimizing. And Yes, it's hard, and takes time.

Mike Jameson I think it was a joke...

The real question is can you rig 2 graphics cards to do the job of the cpu.

Charles983 Baller Joke or not, I am running an intergraded GPU - A part of the CPU, for gaming.

Andrea Zaffanella Bro this video is already an intel server advertisement

Neptune Gamingz I know, but it's interesting still, that's why i said that there are clever way to advertise things

TalesOfWar lol I guess I did. I'm thinking the higher core processors don't have the single core performance that something like a quad core does. Now that I think about it that seems like a terrible idea because of the work involved lol.

Matthew B. Yes the big.LITTLE or multicluster cores on mobile ARM CPUs. Pretty neat if you ask me. Not sure why it haven't made its way especially to mobile/laptop x86 CPUs.

KVM switch?

Just assign corect core affinity for the program you use and tune your system by editing turbo tables. So if for example you have a game that uses 2 cores max and have 8 core cpu, assign the game .exe file to two cores and tune your 2 core turbo to the max. 6 unused cores will clock down letting you push higher clock on remaining two your game uses.

How many cores will Epyc 2 have? 64 iirc. Has linus ever made a video benchmarking Epyc? Also, does Intel offer anything similar? Epyc has been out for a while and Intel can offer at most 28 cores.

HEDT consumer skus do not have dual socket motherboards

Wargon he never made one

Wargon 48 cores in zen 2. 64 per socket may come with the zen 3 generation.

Epyc

In all seriousness through, single-thread performance is whay still matters for most games. Only in recent yeards did game developers start to care about parallelizing the workload in their games.

I believe it's MSI but it's been there on and off for a few epsiodes so I'm not certain if it's real or fake...

CaptainCheerios this is what I'm wondering.

Mathias Holst-Egede it’s likely real because the order they record is not the same as the order they upload. Just look for it on WAN show if he is on it

Apparently, it is becoming less feasible to invest in ASICS to mine most bitcoin and even less so for gpu/cuda setups.A data center that relies on multi-parallel (not massive) processing of the fastest cpus using the most efficient chipsets and memory architecture combined with supplemental racks of cuda/gpus might become less susceptible of become obsolete due to advances in gpu technology and ASIC/ algorithmic advances.

i'd like quad-socket mobo with that :D

AMD test was bullshit. The guy that wrote the program they used to benchmark said NOT to use it as a representation of what the CPU could do. Why? Because it used highly repetitive, very small instructions that end up being buffered in the larger AMD cache. AMD chose Intel CPU's that had cache that wouldn't buffer these instructions completely so you end up with reads back to system memory that introduces delays... long story short is that the results were NOT indicative of real world usage... it probably will be a great product, but it's best to wait for unbiased benchmarks.

I have a question if I have 2 CPU's on a PC does that mean double the cores? And double the frequency?

@@scene6289: Not double frequency, but yes, double cores, double RAM support and not least, double PCIe lanes. So with a dual-Epyc with enough PCIe slots, you should be able to run about 50-70 high-end gaming stations from one box, assuming the ability to run dual- or quad-head gaming in VMs. With those 256 PCIe lanes, you could also run 64 m.2 devices at full speed. Would be interesting to see how much speed you could get from a Linux RAID0 setup. It is possible that it would be useful somehow. It would be a theoretical 224GB/s, with easy access to 256TB memory. Would be a fun project.

@@photonboy999 2019 and 2020 proved that EPYC 7742 is the best server cpu for now. www.servethehome.com/amd-epyc-7742-benchmarks-and-review-simply-peerless/2/

Fuck you.

Professor X Xeons are overpriced.

Correct me if I'm wrong but if I recall correctly, I remember Linus saying that they don't cover much AMD since AMD doesn't sponsor their channel as much as they LTT would like to be. On the other hand with AMD's current track record and followers, I think they're at a point where they really don't need to sponsor content creators to advertise their stuff. I mean in almost every tech video there's always a comment talking about AMD so hurray for free advertising!

Josué Solano It's called SMP and it's been around longer than nVidia has.

lol 3fx made SLI nVidia bought the idea...

It’s called CrossFire, the shittier SLI.

But no need for a physical bridge

More like fire strike since it's all through the board and not a independent bridge lol.

DELTACX10 Your logic is horribly wrong

you get the point for that price i could have much more power from amd

DELTACX10 not really. You'd need a whole new PC for each CPU, and a way to cluster each task like a server. Mobo vs Mobo, the Xeon is better. Heck in the instance of i7 vs Threadripper, i7 wins. You have to spend more on the the CPU for a MARGINAL gain. The 1950X is $750, and is 20% better than the 8700K ($300). The 8700K is 15% better than the TR-1900X, and the i7 is $150 cheaper.

Thorshammerr Wow, you seem a little butthurt there. Especially since you can't even form a sentence without a bunch of grammatical errors. 1) 20% was pulled from Userbenchmarks, which pulls thousands of Cinebench scores for each processor. I trust it over a sourceless claim from you. Especially since you aren't running both to compare. The cost difference is not worth the performance gains. 2) Yes, there have been exploits, and Intel has been fixing them. Problem is that the odds of that exploit affecting you is so minimal. Nobody wants to fuck with your computer. There's nothing you have or do that is worth a minute of a hacker's time. 3) Good luck with that one buddy. Just because everyone on the AMD bandwagon (I used to only use AMD until the clusterfuck bullshit that is Bulldozer... Which AMD got sued for lying about core count) is going bananas, doesn't mean a large Fortune 500 company gives a shit. I know for a fact we aren't switching any of ours from Intel. It's not worth the hassle for [maybe] one generation. Not just that, but Intel gives us decent discount of 50-60% off MSRP. So unless AMD is going to compete with pricing SO MUCH that it justifies buying brand new hardware or trying to cluster AMD with Intel servers, it's not even worth it. There's a reason hardly any Enterprise computers use AMD anymore.

Joseph Romano if a data center wants dual socket tr boards they can order them or just go and get quad socket opteron boards li,e i have