Do fins really matter that much? Longboard Surfing FIN TEST

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Longboard Sessions

Longboard Sessions

2 жыл бұрын

Quite an exciting video today because I'll be comparing the CJ Nelson Noserider 10.0 fin to the Captain Fin co. Alex Knost Sunshine model. I never thought that a longboard surfing fin can make any difference to performance, but I was way off! Enjoy!
Board: Bing Continental
Location: New Jersey

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@chrisalex5567
@chrisalex5567 2 жыл бұрын
Your videos are great and I found them by accident. I come from Germany and we live not so far away from the North Sea. I surf a CJ Nelson Neo Classic 10.0 myself and the Fins from CJ are amazing. I would say; now you have the perfect setup for all conditions. I‘m looking forward every week for a new video, great job and many thanks for the spirit😁🤙
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome thanks Chris! Yea i'm really loving this cj nelson for sure. Took it out one other time on a larger day and it performed lovely! Going to try it out again this weekend with the cameras rolling 🤙
@russellblack
@russellblack 2 жыл бұрын
I have that CJ Nelson fin, my first session with it was amazing! Best purchase ever! I can't nose ride yet but your videos are a great learning tool, hopefully I can get there soon!
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Russell! Yes I'm still loving this cj fin! Keep working hard and you'll get it
@kenjiwebb1509
@kenjiwebb1509 Жыл бұрын
The fin(s) is 50% of how a finned surfboard relates to the wave and rider. CJ is one of my very most favorite surfers both to watch and to share the water with. His nose rider fin is based on the classic Donald Takayama Nose Rider. CJ added a little bit of rake and beefed up the area. The Alex fin is based the old Greenough Stage IV. It is a flex fin compared to stiffness of the broader fin. It will let the board flow with the twists in wave face and project a nice carving bottom turn, while its long base keeps any direction change gradual enough to allow walking and nose riding. There was a period of time when I would go to Rincon with a twin fin, a semi gun, and a longboard in the truck. I'd start with the little board in the morning, take a break and fuel and go to the next bigger board and so on. There was a milk crate in the truck full of fins so I could tune my boards to the conditions and my moods. I had a lot of fun. If you are into high performance nose riding fins, you owe it to yourself to try Guy Takayama's Orca, which bears kinship to Greenough's windsurfing fin designs. Guy's Manta is really good too, but the Orca hits the sweet spot with me. You can go to the beach with one board and three fin set ups and have three distinctly different rides to choose from.
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions Жыл бұрын
Well said! I love messing with fins.. I think it makes you a better surfer. And I love how much difference a fin could make as well. Take out the Cj nelson noserider and compare it to the alex knost... it's like being on two different boards
@naimeran
@naimeran Жыл бұрын
Awesome video mate. I'm surfing already 10 years on a regular short board and latley Iv'e decided that I want to move to a Longboard. Your videos give me alot of inspiration to make this shift happen. BTW, I really like your editing skills, your videos make me feel much more calm and relaxed. Peace and Love from Israel (yeah we got some waves in here and not only conflicts)
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!! Great to hear you're making the switch. Israel has some great longboarding waves.. although fairly crowded from what I hear. A trip there is in the cards for sure! Especially since I'll have Gilad to show me around
@mountainssea9642
@mountainssea9642 9 ай бұрын
Best decision you’ll make. More waves, more fun on the board, easier paddling, and just all around more fun.
@JiahaoLin
@JiahaoLin 2 жыл бұрын
Nice narratives and footage combo. Good efforts
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jay!
@noseridesnosedivessurfvlog8634
@noseridesnosedivessurfvlog8634 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, fins make a massive difference. Personally I too am preferring a 10’ hatchet fin, though mine is similar to your normal FCS click-in. And no I don’t find it harder to turn either, just different as you said. Great Vlog Bro🤙😎
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Adam! Yea iv'e been thinking of trying my identical fin but 1" longer to see how that feels. For now I'm gonna keep the CJ nelson on for awhile
@WorkForAvocados
@WorkForAvocados 2 жыл бұрын
Great video idea man! Awesome stuff as always
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro! Somehow when I think Im out of ideas... something pops in haha
@krispewkrem3
@krispewkrem3 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome videos!! Cool to see the difference between the fins. For a break with such a short ride like that, you may like foiling.
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Iv'e actually seen a guy foiling around here.. he seems to have quite a bit of fun haha! Can't noseride on a foil tho😜
@jorgeguerrero2494
@jorgeguerrero2494 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Brian, loved the video and I hope you all had a great Thanksgiving! I had a quick question, what fin would you recommend for a 9'6 Hobie Uncle Buck? I typically surf at a beach break (Bolsa Chica, CA); with the winter swell slowly making its way in, the sets roll in much faster and more snappy. P.S. I don't have money for a new board. I currently have a Tyler Warren Pivot fin (seafoam), a 9.75, and a friend's 8.5 pivot fin.
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jorge! That hobie looks like a decent board. The fin selection kinda depends on what you want to do. If your goal is noseriding I'd go with that CJ nelson noserider (fin). 10 " or 10.5" would work. That tyler warren fin is probably decent as well. If you need something that turns quick and is much looser the alex knost (first fin i used) is excellent. You can also try something like a the fcs hatchet pivot fin... that might be a bit in between the two. I'm no expert on fins, but it seems like you just need to experiment to see what works with your board.
@anthonymichaeltriola8313
@anthonymichaeltriola8313 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this one! Kind of inspired to try that Knost fin. Today though I moved mine up in the box, as you did a few Vlogs ago. I concur, at least with a larger pivot fin, that it seems to not sacrifice very much stability and maybe loosened things up a bit too! It felt good. Awesome vlog as always!
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 2 жыл бұрын
Nice Anthony! Yea I would test as many fins out as you can, because you don't know how different fins feel till you try em. It's funny thought because this CJ nelson fin is so big that theres less than 1 inch of room to move it forward or back. Not sure that will make much if a difference hehe
@anthonymichaeltriola8313
@anthonymichaeltriola8313 2 жыл бұрын
@@LongboardSessions Yeah, you know that may be part of the reason there isn't a huge difference with mine. I'm using a True Ames Tyler Warren 9.75 in. pivot fin which has really really wonderful hold. I think the turning did slightly improve with the move forward though. It certainly didn't make things any worse.
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 2 жыл бұрын
@@anthonymichaeltriola8313 That's my experience exactly. Moving the fin forward didn't make anything worse, only better. I suppose it depends on the types of waves you're riding as well.
@anthonymichaeltriola8313
@anthonymichaeltriola8313 2 жыл бұрын
I gotta circle back to this again! Inspired me to give a flex fin a try, which I’ve now been threatening to do for months. Switched out the Tyler warren 9.75 inch pivot for a 9.5 inch greenough 4c flex. The looser turning made for so fun on a smaller day!
@uchilois
@uchilois 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Brian, thanks!!
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! you got it🤙
@tylermorris5463
@tylermorris5463 2 жыл бұрын
I have that same exact alex knost fin, and love it, but i did also enjoy the 10 inch hatchet i had
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 2 жыл бұрын
Yea that alex knost fin is great! I see using that fin more as I improve
@davispride1
@davispride1 2 жыл бұрын
so helpful! That noserider fin looks sweet - you had some sick slides with that. I've been thinking of a new fin for my 9'2'' log, might check it out! thanks!
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Hilary! Yes, I don't think you'll regret getting the CJ nelson. For a 9'2 you can go with the 9.5" and I think that could be perfect. 10" would work as well
@davispride1
@davispride1 2 жыл бұрын
@@LongboardSessions awesome, going to scope my local shop today!
@briandiller854
@briandiller854 2 жыл бұрын
GREAT video. As someone who does performance turns I've always liked the 2+1 (with True Ames cutaway fin) because you can turn well on the rail like a shortboard. But I may buy that CJ nelson for small days I want to try nose riding.
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 2 жыл бұрын
Oh cool! Yea a 2+1 setup feels so different. If you through the cj nelson on it's going to be like riding a different board haha! but sooooo stable
@kenjiwebb1509
@kenjiwebb1509 Жыл бұрын
The best way to start walking the board and riding the nose is to get a hold of an early to mid sixties log that is too thrashed to be worth anything to a collector. It will be heavy and hard to handle. It won't turn at all until you figure out when and where to put your feet to make it happen. It won't accelerate until you move forward and it won't turn until you get back to the tail. You have to guide the thing into turns, coax rather than force. This will train you to be light on your feet at the right time and lay into it at the right time. It is actually a fun challenge on little days you might pass up otherwise. Once you start getting some decent rides on the beast, get on a good single fin 9'4" or longer and whole new form of expression opens up in front of you. On my 9' modern longboard I usually prefer the Hawaiian style thruster cluster. I go with a 1+2 on my 10'4" x 21 1/2" Wayne Rich speed shape. Remember that classic long boarding is about glide, flow, and rhythm... nose riding is just the icing on the cake.
@brydenization
@brydenization 2 жыл бұрын
If only there were waves like this on the beaches of Auckland's West Coast in NZ 😭 Awesome videos, Thanks for the stoke 🤙
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 2 жыл бұрын
haha yea these were fun ones. Thanks!!
@payton2232
@payton2232 2 жыл бұрын
Cool video I just got some new fins for my fish about a month ago and I didn’t think I would be able to feel the difference but I could definitely have much faster I was going. 🤙🏽
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yea I was certain fins would barely make a difference before I started experimenting.... I was way off haha
@ichorousmedia
@ichorousmedia 2 жыл бұрын
closeout floaters are the best because all that buoyancy makes them pretty easy to make, plus the fun of throwing all that board up there and the acceleration afterward
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 2 жыл бұрын
Yea for sure! I'm sure with a little practice i can start landing them. They're real easy to get into, it's the landing iv'e never practiced much haha
@tom_sd3466
@tom_sd3466 2 жыл бұрын
Looking good! I've been debating buying the CJ Nelson noserider fin. I think this video sold me on it. I might try to go with the 9.5" noserider fin.
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! I think the 9.5 is the perfect length for this fin. It's so stable that you don't really need to extra length on the fin IMO
@ronphipps5694
@ronphipps5694 2 жыл бұрын
Check out the Skvarrna equalizer from flying diamonds, it's like this perfect combination of a flex fix with a pivot fin. It's based off the DT Flex with some improvements that Kevin made for his surfing. I've tried a dozen fins and it's the first one that feels easy to turn, but still locked in for nose rides. I've had a couple friends try it and really like how it feels. I'm not sure I want to surf anything else now :) Thanks for the video!
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 2 жыл бұрын
I'll check it out! I kind of found the same thing with the greenough 4A. Holds real well and very easy to turn!
@julgee9619
@julgee9619 2 жыл бұрын
Hi there! I was hoping you could tell me the best spots to long board in new jersey. I live in california, but am an NJ native, so would love to hit up some spots the next time I visit. Love your videos!
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 2 жыл бұрын
Nice! Message me on Instagram @longboard_sessions
@NotAnAngryLesbian
@NotAnAngryLesbian 2 жыл бұрын
I surf Florida and my squirrel cutaway fin is my fav. I dont use side bites. My friends tell me its too loose for their taste but I love it.
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 2 жыл бұрын
Oh nice! I'll check those out
@bobby__biggs
@bobby__biggs 2 жыл бұрын
I've got a CJ noserider fin, best fin I've used in my log. Used to be a 4A guy, but the nose riding capabilities of the CJ fin is next level. Just wait till you get it on a lined up point break!
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 2 жыл бұрын
Sweet! Oh man I can't wait for a point break haha
@SkullKingSkate
@SkullKingSkate 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting, I'm new to longboarding after short boarding for years and bought that Alex Knost fin with my first longboard. I was surprised at how easily the board turns but have been struggling with cross stepping so might be time to try a bigger fin.
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yea you gotta try a more stable fin! It's not a miracle cure as cross stepping is difficult, but it does make quite a difference. As we get better we can start trying the looser fins I imagine
@julgee9619
@julgee9619 2 жыл бұрын
@@LongboardSessions Pivot fin 👌🏼
@stiffjalopy4189
@stiffjalopy4189 2 жыл бұрын
I hope CJ is giving you a kickback, ‘cause you’re seriously moving some product! Been toying with the idea of a pivot fin for my 9’6”, and this vid made me think why not? Just clicked buy.
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 2 жыл бұрын
HAHA if only... You'll love this fin.. I havent taken it off since this video
@benoitdemuth4568
@benoitdemuth4568 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, very interesting video as usual :-) which size of fin (single fin) do you recommend for a 9,1 log. I actually have a 9. I am a beginner in cross steping and nose riding so obviously I am looking for stability :-) Many thanks and continue. all the best from France !
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! Well the rule of thumb is if you have a 9' board you should put a 9" fin on. However, after creating this video I think you can do whatever you want lol. If it were me, I'd go with a the CJ nelson noserider 9.5" or similar. Super stable and will really help with cross stepping for beginners and also advanced. Heres a link to that fin: flyingdiamondsca.com/shop/noserider/
@benoitdemuth4568
@benoitdemuth4568 2 жыл бұрын
@@LongboardSessions thanks for your quick answer and advice I will order and let you know in this thread my feeling and progress. Bye
@danielebertora1220
@danielebertora1220 2 жыл бұрын
You can try to put your fin closest to tail as possible to find more stability, talking about size i think your fin it's ok for your longboard, but for the shape i suggest to try more fins you can to find the perfect for you and your board
@benoitdemuth4568
@benoitdemuth4568 2 жыл бұрын
@@danielebertora1220 Thanks Daniele for your reply ;-)
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds good!
@ShaneOConnorRec
@ShaneOConnorRec 2 жыл бұрын
good choice of two fins to try out. I personally ride the 10.75" CJ california pivot as my primary pivot fin. I am noticing much improvement on your overall flow and confidence walking the board. It may have been wave choice/ time of day/ or just happenstance, but it looked like the Knost fin was working better for you. the 4A style template may have allowed for more maneuvering to get in the pocket for tighter noserides. Take it with a grain of salt. I ride both styles in a variety of surf conditions. It helps to change it up, and get a new perspective. That is how we grow as surfers
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 2 жыл бұрын
Oh sweet, nice that you're seeing some improvement in my surfing! Your point about changing things up is so crucial.. I went surfing today and only focused on drop knee turns (this thursdays video) and it made me learn so much about the board and made me way more aware of where my feet are. I may have learned more today than in any other session just by experimenting.
2 жыл бұрын
Nice video, makes me miss surfing NJ :)
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yea NJ is a great spot... if only we had waves more often
@shawnharvey6096
@shawnharvey6096 2 жыл бұрын
Good stuff man! On those reentry floaters I've found it super helpful to get low with the knees and really lean back to get the nose up. We have a lot of those here in Hawaii of you want a longer ride at some of the breaks (looking at you White Plains...). I'm not nearly where you are with the nose riding but the floaters I got down quick out of necessity. Plus it's always fun to drop in on a section that folks wouldn't assume you can on a big board.
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 2 жыл бұрын
Oh sweet great advice! I'll give that a try on saturday. I also assume I need to look at my landing rather than look at the wave. Typically if your eyes are in the right place everything works out better haha
@markumbers5362
@markumbers5362 2 жыл бұрын
Very timely. After 40 years I recently bought my first nose rider and it wobbles about when on the nose because the rails are so soft. Some of the better nose riders use hatchet fins so I will definitely get one this week. Thanks for this, all of my other longboards have hard rails near the tail and are set up for performance.
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 2 жыл бұрын
I imagine a more stable fin should fix your "wobbling" problem. Try a couple different types. What fin do you currently have on it?
@davidpiper1681
@davidpiper1681 2 жыл бұрын
Cool music in this episode!
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks David! Picking the music is one of my favorite parts hehe
@surfpunksurfflickscrescent7025
@surfpunksurfflickscrescent7025 2 жыл бұрын
I have 4 CJ Nelson boards 3 10’0 and 1 11’6 for those small days they are all Pearson Arrows, incredible boards and they all have a 10”CJ fin the stability is awesome, you will master the turning, I’d suggest watching old CJ Nelson videos to see his style, he’s an old friend from Santa Cruz I’ve surfed with him a bunch. I copied his style. He’s a goofyfoot too. 🤙♥️
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 2 жыл бұрын
Wow that 11'6 must be so fun lol! Great advice, I'll start watching some footage of him. I would love to start adding some style to my surfing
@Thestripper1
@Thestripper1 Жыл бұрын
Please do a test with the Greenough stage 6. It's the coolest looking fin out there. But is it also good? Some swear by it...
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions Жыл бұрын
wow that thing is funky looking lol! I'll try it out one of these days
@fritusportus
@fritusportus 2 жыл бұрын
Alex knost fin is crazy I made a performance longboard a,d were looking for a fin. I decided to get it and its really good turns are awesome.
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 2 жыл бұрын
OH sweet! Yea it's a really great fin. Can't wait to start using it more as I improve
@Real.Australia
@Real.Australia 2 жыл бұрын
great video 🤙
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!🤙
@anjelicayoder1177
@anjelicayoder1177 8 ай бұрын
How would you say the CJ nelson fin is compared to your FCS Hatchet (if you use one more than the other)? What are your thoughts on the Rainbow Pivot fin?
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 7 ай бұрын
I can't say iv'e done a direct comparison of the CJ to the FCS Hatchet. But I imagine the CJ is slightly more stable and lends itself to slightly more drawn out turns. The FCS hatchet will be slightly less stable (but still stable) and will be more of a pivot style turn. Never tried the rainbow pivot!
@EddyTeetree
@EddyTeetree 2 жыл бұрын
Man so funny. Did same thing recently on an 11ft cruiser I ride in small clean stuff. The Greenough cut away fin so easy to turn then the fat hatchet made it a virtually un-turnable tracking monster!
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 2 жыл бұрын
haha yea it makes such a difference! I have a greenough I'm going to be trying soon
@luisenrique3421
@luisenrique3421 2 жыл бұрын
Cool video !!!! Hey where in NJ is that beach located ?
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Luis! It's the central NJ area.... people don't like it when I say the town 🤷‍♂️
@tommccabe3823
@tommccabe3823 2 жыл бұрын
Check out the G&S Speed fin. A fantastic blend of speed, drive and turning ability on a lonboard
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 2 жыл бұрын
Sweet, i'll check it out
@bomoney
@bomoney 2 жыл бұрын
I've got both those fins, nice choices!
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 2 жыл бұрын
Yea they're great! Good additions to the fin arsenal
@maydhsh579
@maydhsh579 2 жыл бұрын
really enjoy your videos! can you make an episode about how to find decently priced longboards? they are so hard to fiiiiind ;(
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! It's really hard to find used longboards. You looking for a noserider or just anything over 9'?
@MrGoldenboyh
@MrGoldenboyh 2 жыл бұрын
Hey I surf spring lake. But I’m in Costa Rica right now and I got a 9’6’’ bing with a cj Nelson style fin and it is so slow to paddle. When you said that fin is heavier when paddling do you mean it is slower? And by how much?
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 2 жыл бұрын
Oh nice! Not slower to paddle, it just makes it stay in a straight line really well. Therefore turning the board while paddling is more difficult which makes the board "feel" heavy. I don't think fins would make much a difference when it comes to paddling speed. Maybe the board is a bit small for you?
@MrGoldenboyh
@MrGoldenboyh 2 жыл бұрын
@@LongboardSessions ok I gotcha ya the board is a nose rider with 50/50 soft rails and when I paddle it feels like the water wraps around the tail of it. But when I ride my 9’ board with more hard rails I paddle much faster.
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrGoldenboyh Wow that's very interesting. Yea it could be that your just used to the other board and your Bing is not as fast of a paddler. Seems a little odd tho ?
@williamjoyner3768
@williamjoyner3768 2 жыл бұрын
🤦🏾it was cold at ocean city last Sunday and I wasn’t ready for it 🥲 time to throw this wet suit on 😭 nice video as always ✨
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 2 жыл бұрын
thanks William! time to start getting the winter gear ready !
@williamjoyner3768
@williamjoyner3768 2 жыл бұрын
@@LongboardSessions no problem!!! 🥴🥴🥴🥴 it’s time to move to Hawaii 😂
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 2 жыл бұрын
@@williamjoyner3768 lol in our dreams
@williamjoyner3768
@williamjoyner3768 2 жыл бұрын
@@LongboardSessions 😂😂😂
@mikeamericanelectric9240
@mikeamericanelectric9240 2 жыл бұрын
You should try the CJ Nelson classic pivot from flying diamonds. It has more rake and let’s you turn, trim and flow better than most pivot fins. It’s a happy middle between Alex’s and the CJ fin.
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 2 жыл бұрын
Oh sweet! I'll check it out. I feel my FCS pivot does a decent job at being the middle man for now. But something like that but a little longer could help!
@mikeamericanelectric9240
@mikeamericanelectric9240 2 жыл бұрын
@@LongboardSessions CJ is a close personal friend and everything he makes he puts his all into. And luckily I get to test it all because of his generosity. I enjoy your videos. Keep experimenting.
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikeamericanelectric9240 Oh that's a nice friend to have! Will do, thanks!
@ren1818ren
@ren1818ren Жыл бұрын
Do you think that the CJ Nelson Noserider 10.0 will work with my 9 ft Firewire Special T? I'm 5'6 145 lbs. Or do you think I should go smaller?
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions Жыл бұрын
You may want to go a bit smaller on the board. However, I really have no idea how the cj will react on that board. Looks like a greenough 4a could be a better choice? But who knows till you try it haha!
@ren1818ren
@ren1818ren Жыл бұрын
@@LongboardSessions haha very true I actually ordered a greenough 4a thanks to your video :). I got a 9 inch. Thank you!
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions Жыл бұрын
Oh awesome! Having both fins would be great as well... One will work better on certain days
@nicolasgoupil7284
@nicolasgoupil7284 2 жыл бұрын
I have the same FSC than you. (same color board, same bag, same fin, same beard...??? I"m a big fan? ahahah), Ihave never tried other fin, but the CJ model is interesting, is it realy so difficult to turn with? Thanks for your videos.
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 2 жыл бұрын
hahaha are you the clone?? I highly recommend trying out this CJ nelson fin or something similar. It's way more stable than the FCS fin. When it comes to turning, I wouldn't say it's hard, but it's a little different. Paddling is weird with the CJ fin because it makes you board feel "heavy" if that makes any sense. Paddles just as fast, but it really keeps the board in a straight line. I still also like the FCS fin, but im way more intrigued by the CJ nelson. So I'll give it a few more tries for sure
@nicolasgoupil7284
@nicolasgoupil7284 2 жыл бұрын
@@LongboardSessions I don't want to transform my board as an aircraft carrier but for noserides, stability is the best, I can't wait to try, if I could find some in France.
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 2 жыл бұрын
@@nicolasgoupil7284 lol that’s a good description, an aircraft carrier. I think you’ll be pleased with it though, stil plenty easy to turn
@wilcat375
@wilcat375 2 жыл бұрын
love it
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!🤙
@danielebertora1220
@danielebertora1220 2 жыл бұрын
Try also the captain fin tyler warren 10.25! I think it is a good compromise between these two type of fins
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 2 жыл бұрын
Oh very cool! I'll check it out. To be honest though, my old FCS fin is a decent compromise between the two. Turns well and is decently stable.
@joselucerna5428
@joselucerna5428 2 жыл бұрын
interesting video, like always, what are the measure of cj fin? i dont find , it look masive
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jose! It's 10" long, not sure what the other dimensions are, but it's huge!
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 2 жыл бұрын
i can measure the width if thats what your interested in
@joselucerna7612
@joselucerna7612 2 жыл бұрын
@@LongboardSessions thanks, i found it in a japanese web, lol
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 2 жыл бұрын
@@joselucerna7612 Haha there you go
@ericdarr2870
@ericdarr2870 2 жыл бұрын
Where was this surf shop in NJ? Thanks 🤙🏼
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 2 жыл бұрын
Bayhead NJ. beach-house-classic.shoplightspeed.com/
@wavestarved001
@wavestarved001 2 жыл бұрын
What about a 10 inch hatchet center with side bites? Too much?
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 2 жыл бұрын
10" hatchet center would be great, but side bites are really for more high performance longboards when you want to do a sweeping fast turn instead of a pivot turn. But I believe the 10" hatchet would be a great mix of both the cj nelson and the alex knost!
@DustinKeiser
@DustinKeiser Жыл бұрын
Depends if you’re on a nose rider, glider, mid length, etc..
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions Жыл бұрын
Absolutley true. Gotta find the right fin for the board
@nicscharing
@nicscharing 2 жыл бұрын
You are a very good surfer
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 🤙
@andydavidson3097
@andydavidson3097 Жыл бұрын
Maybe in your next video you can look at a thruster/high performance long board. ?
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions Жыл бұрын
I'll do a HP longboard comparison video one of these days. Definitely a must
@zak-a-roo264
@zak-a-roo264 2 жыл бұрын
Customizing my fins on all my boards since the 80s, make my own longboard fin design that is faster than anything I've surfed. Many half decent boards rip w the right fin.
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 2 жыл бұрын
Oh sweet! Yea the fin makes such a difference!
@AnzaValley
@AnzaValley Ай бұрын
All fins are to thin. What how can that be? They are made to fit in a fin box. Not for maximum efficiency, It is simple hydrodynamics. A thin fin will cavitate much earlier than a thick fin. Cavitation causes the fin to lose it grip in the water. The proper ratio of in thickness to length is 1/8th inch of thickness for each inch if length. A 10inch long fin will be 1 1/4 inches thick at the base tapering up to the tip. This allows your board to ride up at the steep top of the wave with out the fin losing grip with the water. The other benefit is that because the fin work much better it can be place further forward from the tail making the board looser.
@jamesdiola4773
@jamesdiola4773 2 жыл бұрын
Brian were you still selling you continental longboard? Thanks man
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 2 жыл бұрын
Hey James, Yes I actually sold it, but the buyer is nice enough to wait until Oct 17th when my new board is coming. BUT! I just wiped out yesterday and the board smashed against the rocks, got a nice ding in the side. Going to have that professionally fixed and see if they are still interested hehe
@jamesdiola4773
@jamesdiola4773 2 жыл бұрын
@@LongboardSessions oh man. Im Sure they can fix it. I was looking at getting a real longboard myself. Thank you. looking at stewarts redline 11 or matador el toro just for local beach breaks.
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesdiola4773 Sweet! If you don't currently have a longboard, it's a must for any surfer IMO. Even if you don't like longboarding, it will help your shortboarding for sure
@jamesdiola4773
@jamesdiola4773 2 жыл бұрын
@@LongboardSessions thanks brian. Yeah just getting back it since the freak wipeout i had. I think ill end up getting the stewart redline 11 in eps. Thanks man. Keep the videos coming 🤙🏽
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesdiola4773 Awesome, let me know how it is! Will do
@knoxharington3173
@knoxharington3173 17 күн бұрын
Wow, Steve Buscemi can surf!
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 16 күн бұрын
haha!
@markeagleton6500
@markeagleton6500 2 жыл бұрын
Greenough 4A 10”. U won’t regret it…
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 2 жыл бұрын
Wow funny you say that. I just bought that fin a couple weeks ago to test out haha! I got it in an 8.5 tho for the purpose of the video idea. A 9 or 10 would likely suit my board better
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 2 жыл бұрын
Haven’t tried it yet btw
@hallsofvalhalla1749
@hallsofvalhalla1749 9 ай бұрын
Most of the time I got to the NJ shore its a windy mess.......
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 8 ай бұрын
Yes, you gotta make sure you check forecasts before going. Offshore wind (west wind) is mandatory in my mind
@simoniepie
@simoniepie 2 жыл бұрын
How long is your board for the 10" fin?
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 2 жыл бұрын
The board in this video is 9'2". So you can argue a 9" fin would be more suitable? I'm not really sure... I need to do some testing on that
@simoniepie
@simoniepie 2 жыл бұрын
@@LongboardSessions I think if you want to noseride, the fin should be longer than the board. I ride a 9’6” and should maybe have a 10” haven’t tried one yet. Thanks for vid!
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 2 жыл бұрын
@@simoniepie yea I think 10” should be good.
@SomeUrbanNinja
@SomeUrbanNinja Жыл бұрын
I have a Joel Tudor 10.125" on my 9'6" pressed all the way to the back of the fin box.... Brah.. The waves pick up and take me with them before I've had a real chance to paddle for them.
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions Жыл бұрын
haha nice! I'll have to give that one a shot. Iv'e been messing with my fin all the way up in the fin box lately.. I'll have to go back to all the way back to see the differences.
@SomeUrbanNinja
@SomeUrbanNinja Жыл бұрын
@@LongboardSessions I'm just worried about the fin being broken because Hawaii get plenty reef.
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions Жыл бұрын
@@SomeUrbanNinja Yea you gotta watch for that shallow water! Mind the tides hehe
@xyzct
@xyzct 2 жыл бұрын
I noseride my 11" CJ Nelson, and use my 10' board as the fin.
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 2 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@haydonhill4198
@haydonhill4198 2 жыл бұрын
fin game is crazy
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 2 жыл бұрын
yes sir! Love what a difference they make
@changodesurfer
@changodesurfer 2 жыл бұрын
Those hatchet fins make you feel like your dragging a body behind you. I prefer the smaller rakes. Alex Knost has a very side-to-side style when he surfs
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 2 жыл бұрын
lol that's EXACTLY how it feels! I got a 4a style I'm going to be trying soon.. we'll see how that is as well
@manofpeace2953
@manofpeace2953 Жыл бұрын
What size board do you surf ?
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions Жыл бұрын
Currently on a 9'6" COS Chingona
@manofpeace2953
@manofpeace2953 Жыл бұрын
@@LongboardSessions sweet me too, on the 9”6, it’s a 2+1 setup but I’m going to try running it single fin. I got a 9” 4A and an 8” rainbow fins, “wingnut” which I’ve heard good things about… I’m hoping I didn’t go too small on it though.. Thanks for the vids, I’ve learned a lot from you 🤙
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions Жыл бұрын
@@manofpeace2953 oh awesome! Yea the 4a is an amazing fin. I’d put a 10.5 on your board tho. I don’t see any downsides to a larger 4a. Might be ever so slightly harder to turn,,, but it’s worth it
@manofpeace2953
@manofpeace2953 Жыл бұрын
@@LongboardSessions cool 😎 Thanks for the tip
@kdenbeaches808
@kdenbeaches808 2 жыл бұрын
How wide is the base?
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 2 жыл бұрын
I'll have to double check that. I'll do it when I get home. I assume you're reffering to the CJ nelson?
@kdenbeaches808
@kdenbeaches808 2 жыл бұрын
@@LongboardSessions yes, thank you.
@louisreda211
@louisreda211 Жыл бұрын
Is this Long Beach
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions Жыл бұрын
This is monmouth county NJ
@TromboneAl
@TromboneAl 2 жыл бұрын
I sent you an idea via Facebook messenger.
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 2 жыл бұрын
Oh sweet, I'll check it out now!
@BangTaoBeach
@BangTaoBeach 2 жыл бұрын
I like the way CJ Nelson surfs much, much better than Alex Knost. I also like CJ Nelson's down to earth personality. Alex Knost worries about his hair and looking cool. Typical Newport Beach guy. He came down to Cardiff Reef years back and Devon Howard, Joel Tudor and Ryan Burch were out surfing, they were such better surfers than Knost.
@LongboardSessions
@LongboardSessions 2 жыл бұрын
i don't know too much about knost, but CJ is unbelievable. I don't think there is anyone more "flowy" than him. I don't think i'll ever adopt that style... I see myself becoming more of a quick and scrappy longboarder like jefson silva. I think we all end up figuring out our own style as we progress I imagine
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