Miyazaki said that he mades the game while having in mind that you should use any adventage that the game gives you.

Just some random guy pop in my recommendation. Spit facts, leave

I’m gonna keep the same stance on thisevery time. It’s weird to gatekeep what kind of adversity others should enjoy. End of story

i always thought the gatekeeping sentiment was a lil goofy when you consider the realistic version of it, "if you need to get buff and train your martial art in order to become an mma champion, you suck actually" or "when someone shows up out of nowhere to attack you, you shouldn't use whatever weapons you might have on you to help or call for help, even if you have friends nearby and even if the person attacking you has a ton of help on their side" ik its a video game but if video games are meant to make me immersed in the world, then canonically my character is gonna go "oh hell naw, im not letting myself get jumped, I'm going to use whatever I can to protect myself"

Will I gatekeep an entire community, no. Im glad more people will get to experience this kind of game. Will I flame my roomate for beating the game with a sorcery build and summons, absolutely.

This is a great video thanks

Have fun playing your way, whatever it is, that´s Elden Ring for me, possibilities are endless.

35+ hours into elden ring, and gotta say spirit summons are making the game muuuuch easier, but, I am enjoying the environment immensely that I dont mind trivialising the boss fights, the world is just SO DN EXPLORABLE !

I would agree with you to some extent. The idea of spiritual summons is good but with some builds you can become insanely op. My first playthrough I used mimic tear rivers of blood and first tried Godfrey and beat malenia in under 5 tries. My entire strategy was just hope the boss agros on mimic tear while I spam rivers of blood. After a couple of playthroughs I decided to do one without spirit summons and some op weapons and had much more fun because I had to learn the bosses much more. I still think it’s fine to use spirit summons but I think it’s a better experience to not use them.

only summon i used was for malenia and it did end up in that interesting dynamic of pulling aggro off my summon to keep him alive and vice versa

They put in a talisman, they put in an ash to boost summons. They definitely lean into you using them. I don't use them after having used mimic tear on maelnia after hours of trying solo and then beating her in 2 attempts with it I felt unsatisfied. to myself since playing DS1 onward, it's my own satisfaction to beat a boss by learning it, and being forced into trying new strategies and trying different builds is the fun to me. People should use them if they are casual and aren't near as prideful if they enjoy the game. I get why people don't want to use them.

You are changing the whole point of your video in the middle. You start with wanting to explain if summons make the game easier, but then your conclusion is that people should not tell others how to play the game. But those are 2 different topics. Everyone can play however they want, but it's objectively much easier to have the boss target multiple bodies. Especially the DLC bosses that barely give you gaps to attack or heal are much easier that way.

If Miyazaki didn't want you to use summons for boss fights, then the concept of coop wouldn't literally be cannon in dark souls 1

I think the summons are alright but mimick tear is something else man

As long as you engage with all the mechanics of the boss and environment, then spirit summons are fine. I think the mimic is overtuned still, but the dlc shows that as long as the damage and health is toned down, its fine

This is the highest quality video with 4 views I've ever seen

Honestly the only spirit summon I use if I’m really stuck is Loretta as she can’t move.

The IDEA is fine..and in the main game they were a good tool.. but what became of them, not so much.. I fully believe they ramped up the DLCs fights because of summons.. They had to balance the fights based on the OP Endgame summons people had, which im sure was fine for those that used them but for those who didn't use them - it made some of the fights a bit more annoying than difficult.

good video, dont understand how this has so little views

I wouldn't summon spirits so often if I was able to dodge consistently, and I can't dodge consistently cause they still haven't fixed the dogshit input overload issue since DS3.

The Souls diehards will try to convince you that if you don't play the game with no armor, no spells or incants, SL -69, barefisted, blindfolded, and hands tied behind your back you didnt play the game correctly.

People dodge-rolling naked with fists or a stick aren't fans of FromSoft games as much as they are fans of themselves. :) FromSoft has made some of the best weapon arts and weapon selections and magic and combat mechanics in the industry. Props to those players for enjoying themselves, but they're crossing the line of decency when they have the gall to go out and tell other players that they shouldn't be using them.

After beating the dlc i can confidently say that spirit summons wont save you....

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Great video, but I do think almost everyone have a better without spirit summons as opposed to summoning (coming from someone who used summons on my first ever play through)

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I would have said no before but i decided against malenia not to summon took me 3 days and now i think summons make the game less exciting i think elden ring is an rpg souls game that allows you to either play a souls game or an rpg with summons allowing for an easier time but my god is it better without

Play the game the way you want don't let people tell you how to play

I use spirit summoning, but not mimic tear, not because it's OP, I just don't think he's as cool as my girl Lhutel

- speaks facts - refuses to drag on the video for unnecessary 20 minutes - leaves 🗿🗿🗿

Summons literally make the game easier though, its just a challenge thing and people can choose to play that way. Dunno why you switched to a dofferent topic in the middle of the video.

I don't have the right to tell someone how to play a game, but I feel that spirit summons are unbalanced and the game is a better experience without them. I have beaten the game several times on my first playthrough I used summons and they acted as a crutch to make up for my inability to doge certain attacks so I stopped using them because I felt they hindered my ability to improve.

Spirit summons are great if you’re goofing around. I’ve got a kratos build and I use the albinauric archer summon as Atreus lol. I also think they are great for beginners and casual gamers who don’t play very many difficult games. Of course once you get better the experience of playing without summons is very satisfying though.

No

The game was actually designed around coop, and spirit summons are like a "singleplayer" avenue. To the people who think spirit summons are easymode, how would you balance bosses around summons? You would probably have to give them lots of combo, move around a lot, switch directions a lot, have lots of AOE.... Oh. Thats Elden Ring.

"Making the experience infinitely worse for yourself." is a wild claim in a game where overcoming challenge is the main point of enjoyment to be had from these games. From my perspective, being able to defeat bosses in a handful of attempts without having to learn the boss makes the experience infinitely worse. If it was just about getting to the end, why play the game at all? The bosses are still far from designed for fighting multiple opponents. They are slightly more designed for it in mind, but not enough to change the fact you still end up spending half the fight with the boss facing the wrong direction not attacking you and you can get a lot of attacks in. I've played Seamless Coop with some friends and it was a painfully trivial experience regardless of stat adjustments. Radahn was the only boss that worked really. Spirit-ashes are a difficulty setting. If, in most other games there is a 'recommended difficulty' that the game is designed around, and developers usually make that clear, the Elden Ring equivalent IS using no spirit summons. Very few people argue they 'ruin' the game. Most agree they are necessary for newer players. It's hard to balance a game that pleases people with 3 souls games under their belts and people new to the series and they're a great compromise. However 90% of the time I see any discussion regarding spirit summons it's people who use them trying to defend their use and pretending that it isn't simply a difficulty setting and doesn't diminish the experience. That's something that more people would take issue with.

As someone who just beat the game without spirit summons for the first time, no.

No because the designers put it in the game. Do controllers ruin the game? Does having two thumbs ruin the game? Eyes? What about having two functioning eyes? Etc. FFS

I would have said no before but i decided against malenia not to summon took me 3 days and now i think summons make the game less exciting i think elden ring is an rpg souls game that allows you to either play a souls game or an rpg with summons allowing for an easier time but my god is it better without

I would have said no before but i decided against malenia not to summon took me 3 days and now i think summons make the game less exciting i think elden ring is an rpg souls game that allows you to either play a souls game or an rpg with summons allowing for an easier time but my god is it better without