People dodge-rolling naked with fists or a stick aren't fans of FromSoft games as much as they are fans of themselves. :) FromSoft has made some of the best weapon arts and weapon selections and magic and combat mechanics in the industry. Props to those players for enjoying themselves, but they're crossing the line of decency when they have the gall to go out and tell other players that they shouldn't be using them.

Will I gatekeep an entire community, no. Im glad more people will get to experience this kind of game. Will I flame my roomate for beating the game with a sorcery build and summons, absolutely.

A masterpiece. Btw, *modded* skyrim is peak gameplay imo.

I must admit, just like the voice acting, the quests were poorly implemented, and whenever finishing a quest, I rarely felt like I achieved anything of great worth. Still more captivating than most games out there, today.

I noticed in Skyrim if you fast travel in the daytime you get there at night and fast travel at night you get there at day and for me I walk I get there faster but if I have no choice I will fast travel but I lose too much time on that and I also miss new locations so I walk there yes I have got lost but I find my way back if I fast travel to a location I get attacked by dragons there and the guards do you have a attitude problem thanks for the video

To the people that say “this DLC is too hard” you can just do this.

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After beating the dlc i can confidently say that spirit summons wont save you....

The Souls diehards will try to convince you that if you don't play the game with no armor, no spells or incants, SL -69, barefisted, blindfolded, and hands tied behind your back you didnt play the game correctly.

Summons literally make the game easier though, its just a challenge thing and people can choose to play that way. Dunno why you switched to a dofferent topic in the middle of the video.

Play the game the way you want don't let people tell you how to play

i always thought the gatekeeping sentiment was a lil goofy when you consider the realistic version of it, "if you need to get buff and train your martial art in order to become an mma champion, you suck actually" or "when someone shows up out of nowhere to attack you, you shouldn't use whatever weapons you might have on you to help or call for help, even if you have friends nearby and even if the person attacking you has a ton of help on their side" ik its a video game but if video games are meant to make me immersed in the world, then canonically my character is gonna go "oh hell naw, im not letting myself get jumped, I'm going to use whatever I can to protect myself"

If Miyazaki didn't want you to use summons for boss fights, then the concept of coop wouldn't literally be cannon in dark souls 1

Honestly the only spirit summon I use if I’m really stuck is Loretta as she can’t move.

The game was actually designed around coop, and spirit summons are like a "singleplayer" avenue. To the people who think spirit summons are easymode, how would you balance bosses around summons? You would probably have to give them lots of combo, move around a lot, switch directions a lot, have lots of AOE.... Oh. Thats Elden Ring.

Spirit summons are great if you’re goofing around. I’ve got a kratos build and I use the albinauric archer summon as Atreus lol. I also think they are great for beginners and casual gamers who don’t play very many difficult games. Of course once you get better the experience of playing without summons is very satisfying though.

As long as you engage with all the mechanics of the boss and environment, then spirit summons are fine. I think the mimic is overtuned still, but the dlc shows that as long as the damage and health is toned down, its fine

I'll never talk shit and tell someone they're playing wrong for using summons when you're so clearly encouraged to use them, but I personally don't like them and disagree that not using them is "making the experience infinitely worse for yourself". Just because a game mechanic is encouraged doesn't mean engaging with it will always improve your experience. People enjoy different things and game developers don't always know what's best for every player. To me, summons are simply not a fun game mechanic no matter how they're implemented or how integral they're meant to be to the combat system. I enjoy the experience of learning a boss's moveset and conquering the challenge without any help. It doesn't matter if the boss was designed to be fought with a summon, it still cheapens the experience for me if I'm getting free hits without the boss paying attention to me because it doesn't feel like I earned it. People enjoy these games for different reasons so they're free to enjoy it how they want, but this is how I enjoy it most. I personally wish spirit summons were never included in the game. Not because I'm an elitist that wants everyone to git gud and play how I do, but because bosses being designed around summons makes them less fun to fight without them. Many bosses, especially as you get closer to the end and into the DLC, hardly give you any breaks to heal or even attack them back when you don't use summons because they're designed to be attacking multiple targets. This very often makes them feel unrelenting to the point that it's unfair, but using a summon to even the odds just takes all the enjoyment out of it for me so there's no good solution. And I know a ton of other people feel the same as I do. Unfortunately, for many people that feeling turns into a childish dick measuring contest and feeling the need to put others down for playing a different way, but that doesn't change the fact that summons were not a good inclusion for the majority of hardcore soulsborne fans. Imo they were a bad addition to the series despite the wider appeal they may have brought to it, because alienating your core audience in favor of wider appeal is never a good strategy long term.

I use spirit summoning, but not mimic tear, not because it's OP, I just don't think he's as cool as my girl Lhutel

The IDEA is fine..and in the main game they were a good tool.. but what became of them, not so much.. I fully believe they ramped up the DLCs fights because of summons.. They had to balance the fights based on the OP Endgame summons people had, which im sure was fine for those that used them but for those who didn't use them - it made some of the fights a bit more annoying than difficult.

I don't have the right to tell someone how to play a game, but I feel that spirit summons are unbalanced and the game is a better experience without them. I have beaten the game several times on my first playthrough I used summons and they acted as a crutch to make up for my inability to doge certain attacks so I stopped using them because I felt they hindered my ability to improve.

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Miyazaki said that he mades the game while having in mind that you should use any adventage that the game gives you.

35+ hours into elden ring, and gotta say spirit summons are making the game muuuuch easier, but, I am enjoying the environment immensely that I dont mind trivialising the boss fights, the world is just SO DN EXPLORABLE !

I would have said no before but i decided against malenia not to summon took me 3 days and now i think summons make the game less exciting i think elden ring is an rpg souls game that allows you to either play a souls game or an rpg with summons allowing for an easier time but my god is it better without

I would have said no before but i decided against malenia not to summon took me 3 days and now i think summons make the game less exciting i think elden ring is an rpg souls game that allows you to either play a souls game or an rpg with summons allowing for an easier time but my god is it better without

I would have said no before but i decided against malenia not to summon took me 3 days and now i think summons make the game less exciting i think elden ring is an rpg souls game that allows you to either play a souls game or an rpg with summons allowing for an easier time but my god is it better without

Morrowind in my opinion has the most immersive fast travel besides the mages guild because obviously magic teleportation doesn’t exist it’s how people get around in the real world using public transportation so it feels like it belongs

good video, dont understand how this has so little views

I think the summons are alright but mimick tear is something else man

only summon i used was for malenia and it did end up in that interesting dynamic of pulling aggro off my summon to keep him alive and vice versa

No because the designers put it in the game. Do controllers ruin the game? Does having two thumbs ruin the game? Eyes? What about having two functioning eyes? Etc. FFS

Great video, but I do think almost everyone have a better without spirit summons as opposed to summoning (coming from someone who used summons on my first ever play through)

Ong

- speaks facts - refuses to drag on the video for unnecessary 20 minutes - leaves 🗿🗿🗿

I’m gonna keep the same stance on thisevery time. It’s weird to gatekeep what kind of adversity others should enjoy. End of story

Have fun playing your way, whatever it is, that´s Elden Ring for me, possibilities are endless.

They put in a talisman, they put in an ash to boost summons. They definitely lean into you using them. I don't use them after having used mimic tear on maelnia after hours of trying solo and then beating her in 2 attempts with it I felt unsatisfied. to myself since playing DS1 onward, it's my own satisfaction to beat a boss by learning it, and being forced into trying new strategies and trying different builds is the fun to me. People should use them if they are casual and aren't near as prideful if they enjoy the game. I get why people don't want to use them.

You ser, you get a sub.

No

I wouldn't summon spirits so often if I was able to dodge consistently, and I can't dodge consistently cause they still haven't fixed the dogshit input overload issue since DS3.

As someone who just beat the game without spirit summons for the first time, no.

You are changing the whole point of your video in the middle. You start with wanting to explain if summons make the game easier, but then your conclusion is that people should not tell others how to play the game. But those are 2 different topics. Everyone can play however they want, but it's objectively much easier to have the boss target multiple bodies. Especially the DLC bosses that barely give you gaps to attack or heal are much easier that way.

I would agree with you to some extent. The idea of spiritual summons is good but with some builds you can become insanely op. My first playthrough I used mimic tear rivers of blood and first tried Godfrey and beat malenia in under 5 tries. My entire strategy was just hope the boss agros on mimic tear while I spam rivers of blood. After a couple of playthroughs I decided to do one without spirit summons and some op weapons and had much more fun because I had to learn the bosses much more. I still think it’s fine to use spirit summons but I think it’s a better experience to not use them.

This is a great video thanks

"Making the experience infinitely worse for yourself." is a wild claim in a game where overcoming challenge is the main point of enjoyment to be had from these games. From my perspective, being able to defeat bosses in a handful of attempts without having to learn the boss makes the experience infinitely worse. If it was just about getting to the end, why play the game at all? The bosses are still far from designed for fighting multiple opponents. They are slightly more designed for it in mind, but not enough to change the fact you still end up spending half the fight with the boss facing the wrong direction not attacking you and you can get a lot of attacks in. I've played Seamless Coop with some friends and it was a painfully trivial experience regardless of stat adjustments. Radahn was the only boss that worked really. Spirit-ashes are a difficulty setting. If, in most other games there is a 'recommended difficulty' that the game is designed around, and developers usually make that clear, the Elden Ring equivalent IS using no spirit summons. Very few people argue they 'ruin' the game. Most agree they are necessary for newer players. It's hard to balance a game that pleases people with 3 souls games under their belts and people new to the series and they're a great compromise. However 90% of the time I see any discussion regarding spirit summons it's people who use them trying to defend their use and pretending that it isn't simply a difficulty setting and doesn't diminish the experience. That's something that more people would take issue with.

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All good thoughts here. Video on Oblivion now?

A zoomer like you calling Skyrim a "masterpiece" is the greatest example of the mediocre slop humans alive in the 21st century who have destroyed every industry of entertainment on Earth because there's billions of you useless eaters who can't stop paying for mediocre garbage. You're the reason the world is a terrible place and nothing good exists anymore; because you've brought the whole world down into mediocrity by calling slop "masterpieces"

I hate zoomers so much it's unreal. Your voice even SOUNDS high estrogen. Of course you play mediocre casualised normie pig slop