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@gn2727Ай бұрын
Imagine you are paying 8000 bucks for a TV and this topic even exists.
@kaczan327 күн бұрын
My thoughts exactly. I'm not buying a premium laptop for a premium price to pamper it. Give me Ryzen 8000 series laptop with LCD, goddamnit.
@dustincook20210 ай бұрын
I used to work from home and while working, I played FFXIV on my personal computer. So basically, it would be on for hours. I noticed after 8 months of this, when i go to settings in windows 11, I have slight burn in on my Alienware QD OLED, from the map compass in FFXIV. I don't notice it any other time but its still there even after the long pixel reset.
@AlienYogurtPot12310 ай бұрын
LG have more experience with Oled panels so always the better option for longevity.
@eduardosilva893310 ай бұрын
@@AlienYogurtPot123 Rtings' test does hint that current LG panels handle burn-in better than the competition
@fabrb2610 ай бұрын
@@AlienYogurtPot123 Ford had better experience with rusty cars but that never played in their benefice.
@Whiteshade8 ай бұрын
@@eduardosilva8933right just saw the rtings long time test for lg's 27 inch 1440p woled monitor and it looks good if you compare it with other monitors. I would probably jump to lg when it brings 32 inch 4k woled monitors.
@eagletrippin10 ай бұрын
As an LG C1 owner, i *do* take precautions, as i use it not only for my PS5, but as my gaming PC monitor. I do so because I am also the owner of LG B6 that got severe burn-in after only 18 months that I got repaired. No burn-in on my C1, but, hey, I've learned lessons from my first OLED experience. That said, I do believe that current-gen OLED's are built to combat burn-in better than they did with early-generation OLED's like my B6.
@zionm533510 ай бұрын
LEDs for me, for as long as I can. Babying a tv is dumb.
@trappedintimesurroundedbye547710 ай бұрын
You don't need to babysit the TV you just need to babysit your stupidity. As long as you don't do ignorant shit with your television buying an OLED television would be just fine. So just remember babysit your stupidity.😂
@daibonehead10 ай бұрын
"I am using zero precautions" Words never to be said in some court cases.
@cluckendip10 ай бұрын
better call saul
@tinobrown178010 ай бұрын
The earlier OLED’s were terrible with burn in. I had a B7 that had very bad burn in. Prior to that I had a B1 I believe. I had to get the B1’s panel replaced a couple times, because of burn in from gaming. Eventually I just gave it away. Currently I have a C1 that I’ve had for like two years, and no issues whatsoever. LG has really improved the tech on their tv’s. They’ve been getting better and better since the C9.
@MaximumCarnage-10 ай бұрын
That's encouraging because I had horrible burn-in on the C7 from yellow hud items. I couldn't watch anything anymore. Had the panel replaced and only game at 15-30 OLED light and try to avoid yellow hud items.
@Jengalese10 ай бұрын
Had the B7 as well - lasted 1.5 years and LG basically said tough when the middle of the screen started displaying yellows as green. Decided never to give another penny to LG that day. Glad to hear people are having better experiences these days
@MrHabushi10 ай бұрын
I've had a B7 for five years with no obvious burn in. I do usually run it with the minimum eco setting enabled though which drops peak brightness slightly, but aside from that I just use for gaming like I would any other TV.
@mikedergalev10 ай бұрын
@@MaximumCarnage-i have this panel as well. Burn in on red background. But the tv itself is pretty old so im fine with what i have. Doesn't bother me🤗 apex legends hud forever 🤣
@MaximumCarnage-10 ай бұрын
@@mikedergalev Lol. For me it was only 1.5 years. I would see the Overwatch yellow dial and other yellow hud items from other games on backgrounds that wasn't blue/green/black, so not just red (but ya terrible on that). You would really see the hud items on people's faces for example. It was crazy. That generation of OLED had very weak/small red sub-pixels. Meaning bright red, yellow and orange would burn in fast if the OLED light was 80+ (which was default lol)
@ReginaldVannison777710 ай бұрын
Before the new gen consoles came, I thought about getting the Oled. But when I heard about the burn in, I got shook real fast lol. I’m happy with my Sony Bravia 120 hz.
@mtx121210 ай бұрын
My first oled - 65inch B7 still has ZERO BURN-IN after 6 years of normal day to day usage
@squiddymuteАй бұрын
yeah you do, check again more closely with a burn in test video
@kirankara10 ай бұрын
Rtings seem to be more concernedb will oled, even high end ones, randomly dying within year or two Seems like money doesn't guarantee quality these days, at least not for very long. Worst part was I've seen tech KZfaq sites discussing this and normalising that, like we should just accept you can spend several thousand and shit happens. I miss the days where buying decent brand technology meant you got a long duration lifespan from it
@ChrisCarlos6410 ай бұрын
I take RTings data and tests and they pretty much show you have to go to some extremes to get any issue with the major models that if you fell asleep at the couch and power save mode settings turn it off a few hours later you're nowhere near burning out or making it burn in because of that single session. It will take many and for me personally it may never happen. My kids could leave the systems on overnight and I'll be fine. I don't have an OLED yet but when my current one bites the dust I will likely make the move.
@chrisbradley322410 ай бұрын
It’s not really about static content. Over time the differential wear accumulates. For example, the LG C7 after a few years all develop a green blob in the center since the red subpixel wears more in the center of the screen. This is simply because human skin tones have more red in them and humans are normally shown in the center of a shot. It’s been improved but it’s still a concern, especially with QD-OLED.
@prospera938 ай бұрын
Rtings also said that burn in is inevitable
@colaboytje6 ай бұрын
It will happen. It is inevitable. Image retention can't be stopped. The question is just: when?
@zerocal765 ай бұрын
Its honestly amusing how ppl talk about burn in as if nothing major and basically dismiss it when it hasn't happened to them in either a few months, a year or maybe even a few years. How the tech works will result in burn in, plain and simple. If that wasn't the case, why are there built-in software features to mitigate or reduce burn in? Why don't manufacturers cover burn in if its such a "ehh nothing to worry about thing??" So happy mini-led is getting real close to matching OLED in several areas.
@TheAshenvictor2 ай бұрын
@@zerocal76 It's not that burn in doesn't happen, it's that the mitigating features you mention make the limited life span a worthy trade-off now. The time it produces a great image has caught up to how long most people want to keep using a tv before they consider upgrading. If you don't want to compromise on life span, you get some other type of panel and make some other compromise. The reason some of us might sound dismissive of burn in is that there's a lot hyperbole around it that just doesn't seem to align with the reality that most oled users know.
@barnuner10 ай бұрын
The second gen QD Oleds use deuterium in the oled panel stack (like the LG EX panels) so the durability should be better. Phosphorescent blue oled should be coming in the next couple years which should be the huge jump in brightness and durability.
@otacon564810 ай бұрын
I’ve had a CX since early 2020, only ever used for gaming. Taken zero precautions, full HUD, 10+ hour gaming sessions and so far there have been no problems. Amazing TV btw, would recommend an LG C series to anyone.
@Datacorrupter2345 ай бұрын
good to hear
@lopesmorrenofim4 ай бұрын
About to pick the C3 up. Always happy to read this stuff. Reassuring. Thanks!
@maicovski4 ай бұрын
have a cx too since early 2021. thousands of hours using it and no problems so far. i'm looking forward to purchase the c3 or b3 but i'm seeing a lot of people complaining about warranty here in brazil
@lopesmorrenofim4 ай бұрын
@@maicovski BRASILLL VAMOOOS!! Idk how it works there, but so far so good. TV’s been amazing! But warranty is a big deal on such devices… See how the stores handle it, at least that’s what i did
@maicovski4 ай бұрын
@@lopesmorrenofim huehuehue! i think i'm gonna give it a chance. left my cx with my mom so i don't think it will last long xD
@larzy524910 ай бұрын
I use oled as monitor, I've noticed the only burn in you get is at full field 5% grey in mild vertical streaks, but no image retention at all. For reference it looks just like the 100% black on a good IPS panel.
@matthewhardwick820810 ай бұрын
TV screens have built in methods of dealing with burn in especially the Oleds. I have an LG C2 as well and haven't seen any burn in. But you can activate screen savers on the consoles. For Xbox hold the guide button and press X to immediately start a screen saver. On PS5 you can set it to activate after 5 minutes of being idle from the console.
@OniMirage10 ай бұрын
oled screens only. lcd doesn't need or use mitigation.
@Higurashi69010 ай бұрын
@@OniMirageLG just lets you close the whole screen off, while keeping audio on - I have it accessible with the press of a 3 button prompt, I use it always when having something static on
@03chrisv10 ай бұрын
Give it 2 to 3 more years, your TV will have burn in. This is coming from someone who has owned several OLEDS in the last 8 years.
@Higurashi69010 ай бұрын
@@03chrisv sounds like a user issue
@NPTEEE10 ай бұрын
My buddy has been gaming on his LG C1 for the past 4 years non stop. Zero burn in. Sorry, but you're buying shit OLED's.
@Wallrod10 ай бұрын
Honestly i'm really not intersted in what you can do to it in the first year or two of heavy (ab)use. I don't like to throw thousands at new TVs every 3 years, i'd like to be able to buy a TV i know will last for well over 5 years and that i dont have to constantly be vigilant about the way it's being used
@Zveebo10 ай бұрын
Modern OLEDs last well over 5 years with absolutely no issue, without any special precautions. It’s a total non issue and just a case of people being paranoid. It is quite funny that people spend thousands on a new TV and then spend their time watching it on highly diminished setting to avoid a burn in issue that doesn’t really exist.
@GraveUypo10 ай бұрын
more importantly, an oled with slight burn-in is not only still perfectly usable, but still vastly superior to LCD anyway.
@timexcape79619 ай бұрын
@@Zveebo Never read a single comment about having one over 5 years, lol.
@MegaGasek8 ай бұрын
I've got a 2017 OLED LG TV that I thought would be good for decades. Not even close! The TV has Netflix, youtube and CNN logos etched. There are brightness problems, the left side is brighter than the right side. This is after hours of pixel refresher trying to equalize both sides. This is the nature of OLED, it will die much faster than a LED monitor for example. I didn't play games or used it as a monitor, just imagine if I had... Anyway, the technology might have evolved but it still is OLED, organic element which has a much shorter lifespan than LED. I won't buy OLED ever again. Fool me once...
@thephilvz8 ай бұрын
That's just the thing with all these profesionnal tech testers, they replace their stuff every year. Of course burn in is a non issue for them.
@Vincornelis10 ай бұрын
It took 4 years for my C8 to start having some mild burn in around the subtitle area that's occasionally noticeable. Otherwise it's doing fine. I wouldn't worry with more recent models.
@DioBrando-qr6ye10 ай бұрын
I can confirm, 4 years seems the right time. My OLED Samsung tablet started to show burn-in after 4 years.
@Velly2g10 ай бұрын
It took 2 years for me. I got full burn in but i played the same game 5 days a week. The whole screen has Apex Legends burned in the entire OLED. It's really bad.
@ashishbarthwal696110 ай бұрын
@@Velly2g well, now you're gaming all the time lol
@youtubeaccount754410 ай бұрын
Ew time for a new model.
@youtubeaccount754410 ай бұрын
@@Velly2g🤮
@MaximumCarnage-10 ай бұрын
I had horrible Burn-in on my LG C7 after 1.5 years. It was the Overwatch HUD ( the bright yellow dial for ultimate). It was terrible and I couldn't watch TV. Pixel refresh cleared it the first 2 times then never again. I only played after work and maybe half the week. Had other yellow things start to burn as well towards the end as well (FF14). I had the panel replaced and I live in fear ever since with the OLED light at 15-30 when in gaming mode. I won't play games with bright yellow hud elements I can't move. The technician that replace it showed me tons of burn-in pics. Mostly KZfaq/netflix/CNN logos and A LOT of massive blob burn-ins from people that watch tons of news (the skin of the news anchors burns in). I love the picture quality but man it sucks to be scared all the time. Hopefully the tech is more resilient now because gaming at such dark levels sucks.
@exscape7 ай бұрын
My understanding is that the B8/C8 is basically the first gen with good (anti-)burn-in characteristics. x6/x7 seems pretty darn bad when it comes to burn-in.
@pogtuber51467 ай бұрын
Your issue is pretty common for that TV. It seems like the CX, perhaps the C9, is when panels and pixel cleaning algorithms really started to fix the issue. I wouldn't be afraid of HUD burn in on any CX or newer model of LG OLED, possibly other brands too but it depends on the make/model/panel.
@louisrharmony10 ай бұрын
The burn in protection on modern OLED is so good that it’s not gonna be an issue for most if not all people. I was initially cautious about using my CX but I ran a burn in test after 3 years and over 5,000 hours there was absolutely zero burn in
@03chrisv10 ай бұрын
If you plan to keep your OLED for more than 4 years than YES. Every single OLED TV I've owned was fine for the first 3 years, but after that the red pixels really do start to degrade, with green coming in second. The blue pixels surprisingly show no signs of degradation or uneven aging. If you want the best picture quality and are ok replacing your TV/monitor every 3 to 4 years than go OLED. If you want peace of mind without sacrificing too much in overall picture quality than buy a mini LED, that's what I'm doing next year.
@syeddanishanwer10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the insight. OLED is a flawed technology.
@jaimywieanders36135 ай бұрын
Going for Mini-LED don't want headache with burn in... let micro-led come very quickly
@dwain.d10 ай бұрын
I've carried over old plasma habits to my OLEDs. Been using OLED since the B7 and now have a C1 and AW3423DW. Just small things like if I've paused a game and know I'm walking away for 10+ minutes I'll turn off the TV. The old B7 would occassionally suffer from image retention from some game HUDs (Destiny 2 I'm looking at you with your reds and and yellows) but it would always go away. Only one time I had a stubborn outline but the built in pixel refresh cleared it up. That was on the B7 and no dramas with my newer OLEDs. I don't worry about my AW3423DW at all despite being a monitor because when you pixel peep you can actually see it pixel shift.
@FigmentHF10 ай бұрын
I’ve got a 4K oled LG downstairs, and a pretty damn old 1080p plasma upstairs. It’s not always clear cut as to what “looks better”. The black levels on the plasma are still impressive, and the slightly softer resolution can really help console games to feel more stable and cohesive, whereas the 4K screen can produce a “warts n all” image that clearly displays jaggies and shimmering as well as causing distant, low fidelity assets to feel raw and exposed. Screen size and viewing distance plays into this a lot. In summery- clean, stable, stylised games almost always look better on the 4K oled, but more complex, detailed games that rely on lots of image reconstruction and other post processing effects that create things like occlusion artefacts, can look more stable and cohesive on a smaller, lower resolution screen in my subjective opinion.
@devilgames221710 ай бұрын
Got the C1 when it came out (black Friday) and still kicking like day 1.
@Kyouske_4226 күн бұрын
It should even have the exact same brightness as day one, as has been confirmed by rtings long-term tests. Because of the constant compensation I imagine it to be even more consistent than LED TVs, where the backlight itself is getting dimmer with age and heat.
@L4veyan10 ай бұрын
I've used my LG C8 for around 3 years as a PC monitor and there's definitely some burn-in, but it's not noticeable at all with normal use. The most evident burn-in is Google Chrome logo lol.
@ThorStoneGaming10 ай бұрын
Already know the answer is yes, they haven't fixed burn in only reduced it.
@chrisbradley322410 ай бұрын
I would not be worried but I would also not expect to get 10 years out of an OLED like you could get out of an LCD if the power supply etc. doesn’t die.
@veilmontTV6 ай бұрын
I'm gonna be happy if I get four or five years personally. It's expensive but I can't even look at LCDs anymore
@Daniel189HLL10 ай бұрын
Had a C8 since 2018 and a BX since 2021 and never ever had any issues, despite 2386 hours on the binding of isaac! 😊
@Joshda03910 ай бұрын
I've been playing on my oled everyday playing games on my ps5, xbox and pc at max oled pixel brightness and I've had my LG C1 since October 2021, no sign of burn in at all.
@pogtuber51467 ай бұрын
Keep in mind the panels might be more than capable of preventing burn-in, but that prevention is based on the electronics and settings of the manufacturers of the panels. You can't apply your experiences of LG OLED TVs to all these new monitors coming out just because they're using LG panels.
@zergslayer6910 ай бұрын
I got a 42 c2 oled and have been using it as a monitor regularly since July of 2022. I don’t hide my taskbar and just use it like I would with any regular monitor. Only prevention I do is set a blank screen saver to come on after a few minutes but otherwise I did not change my habits at all. Zero issues to date
@Stock--Rosso10 ай бұрын
Easily the best picture for gaming, but I’ve had 4 OLED TV’s and two OLED phones in 7 years and now I don’t. Just buy one if you game and find out.
@MrVoland4410 ай бұрын
changing 4 tvs in 7 years? crazy((
@pkilljoy57977 ай бұрын
the reason the QD oleds showed burn in was because of a software bug. Compensation cycles werent being run
@lilpain199710 ай бұрын
Yes, I love OLEDs and own OLEDs but so many that own them act like its a none issue. Its an issue and its pretty clear its an issue with the amount of counter measure's to prevent burn in or slow it down massively. Heck for desktop use cases people recommend turning everything off ( which i have done as i use the AW3423DW ) and again if its not an issue why would i need to do that? I don't have to, but burn in is inevitable with static content, even with breaks. I hate when people say its not an issue... Yes it is. The majority don't even know what burn in is or how oleds work. Most people think its not possible to burn an aspects ratio into one that is how uneducated they are
@JimBob193710 ай бұрын
Yes, I find it confusing as well. It is an inherent limitation with the OLED technology as the "burn in" is actually just uneven pixel wear, where the brightness varies with age. The more a subpixel is used, the further along on the age to brightness curve it'll be relative to others. Most of the solutions largely seem to be shifting the screen a bit (pixel shift) in order to soften the edges of this uneven wear, and static element brightness reduction, which ages those pixels less... but these just slow it down or make it slightly less apparent. The result is, yeah, it is inevitable, and thus it really is a per use case decision. I use my TV as a home theater PC monitor in my living room, static elements galore, and need for high brightness due to ambient light, the worst case scenario for OLEDs. So, for now, I'm still stuck with LCD, but I would love to get an OLED, or an OLED-like display at some point.
@gewdvibes9 ай бұрын
All those built in protections are exactly why they’re so resistant to burn in and why it’s not a problem. So in reality it isn’t an issue lol, you’re saying it’s an issue without all these protections but that’s exactly why modern panels rarely burn in so you can’t just say it’s a problem when in practice it’s not
@lilpain19979 ай бұрын
@@gewdvibes not an issue at all but still has measures and still burns in... Oh and RTINGS new update proves it's still very much an issue especially QD OLED. Even in realistic times
@asole1008 ай бұрын
As an OLED owner I hate babying my monitor everyday. From making sure it's playing content or leaving it on a black screen everytime I have to get up to take care of something (which is often) to always making sure I lower the brightness to 25 if I'm watching a live with a static image, and or never going full brightness so that the diods don't degrade faster.This is way too many things to do just because I don't want to risk losing all that money it costed to buy it. I wont be convinced that it isn't a risk till 10yrs have passed, and all these crush dummies who abuse their OLEDs have came to a final conclusion.
@Wr0438 ай бұрын
Yes thanks 🙏🏼 you. It is an issue and i don’t know why they said is not.I love oled i got 3 oled but all have burn-in issue.thank for Costco guarantee.
@edismehmedali466610 ай бұрын
I’ve had my 55 inch LG B9 for a little over 3 years, and even with a conservative estimate of it being on 12 hours a day, that’s 13k hours, and I’ve had 0 issues with burn in
@AlienYogurtPot12310 ай бұрын
The LG oled panels are the better option, it's rare you're gonna find burn in as they have a lot of feature to prevent it whereas other Oled panels from other companies tend to not have those features, so I'd stick with the LG models.
@Zveebo10 ай бұрын
This is like when people were terrified to use SSDs normally because of some issues under super heavy use that the very first versions had had years earlier. Fear of tech issues that have been solved for about a decade is a weirdly prevalent thing among technology fans. They seem to know enough to know there was once an issue, but somehow not enough to know that it was largely overblown, and has been solved for ages anyway.
@michaelangst60783 ай бұрын
There is no fucking way you can use these OLED's as a monitor forever and never have burn in. It may even take 5+ years, but it will happen. The biggest annoyance with OLED is the Auto dimming to prevent burn in
@444chromaАй бұрын
You're less likely to notice burn in because the panels are made to burn evenly. They hide it better now. The entire screen will become dimmer over time but regular people are not logging measurements. Nobody has invented a scary term for this effect so it doesn't get attention like "burn in" (burn out more apt)
@stevenesbitt35286 ай бұрын
It’s enough to put me off, probably less of a problem when you can expense a replacement
@SpontaneousWeasel10 ай бұрын
LG CX 55inch oled owner here 👋 zero burn in since 2021- even with ABL disabled in the service menu. I will say I vary the content most days. The picture quality is superb.
@Elzilcho8710 ай бұрын
My brand new Switch OLED has burn-in, even though I turned down the brightness when I first bought it and set the background to black, and within 2 days it now has a green tinge permanently on the screen.
@abigaxedwarf73166 ай бұрын
I remember reading that the oled screens are green tinged, atleast some of them. Hopefully not actual burn in, if that eases your mind a bit!
@Elzilcho876 ай бұрын
@@abigaxedwarf7316 Well, I guess it's good to know it isn't burn in, but it’s still irritating to have a mild green-tinged screen because Nintendo doesn't really care about quality checks on their consoles anymore. Thanks for replying though 👍
10 ай бұрын
I'm using an LG CX as my main monitor for almost 3 years now. Daily 10-12 hours of use with 7-8 hours of work (coding). I'm doing minimal care (not at max brightness, no taskbar, changing wallpaper, after 10 minutes kicking-in blank screensaver). Not yet noticed any kind of burn-in. I think the automatic dimming it does is more annoying at this point to me than a potential burnin :D (I think I'll get a service remote and disable it, once it's warranty is over)
@Frank-fi1fb10 ай бұрын
My OLED C7 becomes 6 this year. It’s having burn-in thats only visible on fully red, yellow, purple screens. In normal content its invisible, but sometimes during commercials its noticeable. After six years thats okay. I never was very careful with static images on tv and with games. The next tv will be an OLED again!
@DanRichardson10 ай бұрын
Make sure to not turn the TV/monitor off at the wall. They go through maintenance routines while in standby. It's a good reason not to buy a store floor model, as those TVs are set at full brightness during the day and then often shut off completely at night
@environm3ntalist54910 ай бұрын
Absolute nonsense. It’s fine to turn off at the wall.
@DanRichardson10 ай бұрын
@@environm3ntalist549 sure, but then the maintenance routines won't run
@Lego_Fish10 ай бұрын
@@environm3ntalist549 No, this guy is right. Rtings recently made a video about this.
@Tectosaurus10 ай бұрын
@@environm3ntalist549the latest OLEDS (like the CX, C2, C3) automatically start a pixel cleaning process when the TV is turned off if it has been on for 4 cumulative hours. This takes roughly 5-6 minutes so if you turn off your tv and immediately unplug it at the wall, it completely turns off and the pixel cleaning process will not happen.
@18matts10 ай бұрын
I've burned in 3 phones so i promised myself i would keep my oleds dim from now on. I set my tv to 50-60 for hdr gaming and usually 0-20 on sdr. And the fact that rtings test has shown the C2 to burn in faster than the B2 should raise some eyebrows
@puao4 ай бұрын
My LG E6 (2016) has HUD burn in since 2021. I was disappointed since I was told back in the day that I didn't need to worry about that, that the TV had mechanisms to avoid it. From the comments it seems that the most recent models are way better, but I'm not sure I feel confident to buy another OLED for gaming.
@gonlyhlpz10 ай бұрын
I've been using the LG C2 for the past year, primarily with my PS5 and as a gaming PC monitor. Additionally, as I work from home, I've relied on it heavily for my job, accumulating nearly 4500 hours within this period. Based on my ongoing experience, I firmly believe that LG is top-notch, and the worries about OLED burn-in appear to be a thing of the past.
@Battleneter10 ай бұрын
That's not what many have reported forums with the LG C2. While it's true those with issues are more likely to post than without, its disingenuous to play down the risk based on a tests set of 1.
@vamos41927 күн бұрын
These guys at DF are taking zero precautions because it’s literally their job to review graphics in games and they go all out with their OLEDs for the accuracy and black levels. And if anything happens, they just buy new ones. But most users are not like that because they are “users” and for them, TVs burning in within 2-3 years is a big issue.
@phillydavison7 ай бұрын
The latest LG "G3" has faired worse on the longevity test compared to the 2nd gen QD OLED "S95C"
@AllySandrana10 ай бұрын
OLED just need extra care and precautions then you would be fine.
@Knubbers24_Ryan_Van_Riper7 ай бұрын
My LG CX got burn in on my taskbar plus the DayZ overlay. It does have 11,000 hours but I regret not hiding my taskbar. I reduce DayZ overlay brightness now but the damage is done.
@kevin_mАй бұрын
My older LG B7 (6 years of use) is a mess of burn in from multiple different content/logos/huds etc. I’m pretty nervous about going oled again. I know there’s been improvements but ya. Run a full red test screen year 3 or 4 and cross your fingers. 😅 Hope OLED is in a good place now like one of you said.
@andrewquinn59465 ай бұрын
With general usage and varied content you seriously dont need to worry about it anymore, obviously if you go looking for it and purposley leave the same image on max brightness 24/7 then yes you may have issues but who in reality is going to do that
@Daeva83B9 ай бұрын
oh man... yes.. that first question, i have a lg b2 and some games do have an always on hud on screen... and i have the same parranoia.. i actually don't play certain games on my tv because of the hud. I like my tv, i don't want no burn in.. hehe
@PetrisonRocha10 ай бұрын
"Months" are not enough to see burn-in on any use case. If you're rich and will buy a new TV after a few years, you shouldn't worry about burn-in at all, but this is a concern for people who want to keep their TVs for several years. I'd happily have an OLED TV and game on it, but I'd never use it as a computer monitor.
@michaelangst60783 ай бұрын
OLED's are annoying for monitors because of the auto dimming used to prevent burn in anyways. I cannot believe nobody brings this up in the comments
@TheAshenvictor2 ай бұрын
@@michaelangst6078 It's weird isn't it. I honestly think the burn in hysteria is a bit of a red herring as far as oled issues go, and it's taken attention away from things like the auto dimming. I'm happy with my oled which I use as a desktop monitor, and I have gotten used to working around the auto dimming, but I think it's a way more worthwhile thing to note and be aware of if considering an oled as a monitor.
@TheAmandaAmazing110 ай бұрын
My LG got burn in. And because no warranty covers burn in I lost all my money. I went back to LED after that.
@jasonsumner338610 ай бұрын
Not me, I have a Samsung QLED.
@Mcnooblet7 ай бұрын
Only burn in I've ever experienced was with Assassins Creed Valhalla on PS5. It was actually on an LCD screen (not QD/Mini LED). I replaced it shortly after and gave it to my gf, and she uses it to this day to watch shows. When the TV was shut off, you could see the Valhalla HUD at the bottom though, but once the TV was turned on you wouldn't notice. Not sure if it is still there or not, or I haven't noticed in a long time. Maybe it just needed to never display Valhalla again.
@progrob2710 ай бұрын
I've had a CX for a few years and just used it full brightness all the time (but I leave in stand by so it does do its auto cleaning stuff I guess) but mines fine. I don't give it a second thought anymore.
@endlessscrimp881210 ай бұрын
My LG C1 had significant enough burn in after 1.5 years of XBOX gaming that Best Buy gave me a full refund.
@theconsolekiller71136 ай бұрын
From my experience this was a little bit of an issue still in 2017. Not major. I had an LG OLED from 2017 and I would get some temporary retention a few times when I got distracted and left the tv on with some menus. These did fade out after a few days. It was nothing to the extent of the Plasma tv's which mostly had strong burned in energy bars and HUD elements. Though I think near the end my Panasonic Plasma was pretty good about that. Since then Ive had a LG C8 OLED, 65 inch from 2018 with close to 9000 hours on it, almost PURELY gaming (dont watch movies or tv). I play everything from super old games through an emulation machine to modern games with tons of hud elements. Not only have I taken zero precautions, I have the panel brightness maxed, contrast maxed and brightness at 50. I have not seen a single area of retention on this unit , anywhere, that I can remember. If there was a ghost image on the screen it was for a very brief period. The only issue ive had with this unit is a bunch of dead pixels in clusters around the edge of the screen. Ive read this could be some kind of issue with sealing it improperly. I dont even notice it unless I stare at the edges of the screen during less detailed content. With all that said, I will be upgrading my PC monitor soon, to an OLED monitor. That concerns me more but I will take the jump and use it normally and see what happens. If I have to baby it then Ill stick with CRT monitors. LCD is definately not an option for me. My play time is around 1500 hours a year (my tv shows the power on time). I do shut the screen off if Im leaving static menus on for 30 minutes or longer usually, but nothing too insane maintenance wise. Back in the Plasma days I did take alot of precautions. Switching up the games I played was something I normally did anyway, but didnt seem to help much. There would always be that one Souls game or big game that I would marathon, and that would be the game to really burn in the HUD elements. They would stay for many months on the old Plasma's, maybe never evening out. OLED has been so much better. The 2018 LG OLED still looks awesome, so I have no plans to upgrade for this console generation, unless it breaks. Im out of the 5 year best buy store warranty now. I reccomend getting a 5 year best buy warranty on any new display, especially since they can end up being 3-4k. Ive had numerous sets just break or have some weird visual glitch, it happens. I dont see these consoles pushing past 4K for a while and most games dont break 60 FPS on console, so my 4k 60 FPS TV seems fine until more games start pushing the limits.
@paulcox24472 ай бұрын
Worry about it.. For general TV use,no probably not. It's still an inherent part of the technology though so I'd highly suggest a warranty for anyone getting an OLED. As long a warranty as you can get.
@cocojoy15908 ай бұрын
At this point in time, OLED burn-in is a non issue, it’s basically impossible with use cases of 99% of people, if you torture test these displays(same for LCD,plasma and CRT) obviously you can burn some parts but nowadays we have some software and hardware measures to counter burn-in and also at least 2 years of warranty, so with MLA WOLED and 2nd gen QD-OLED the problem is non existent, we will see in the next 5 years how QD-OLED and maybe microLED we’ll be (somewhat) affordable.
@victorhojgaard17693 күн бұрын
Heard from some on a Facebook page that their qd-OLED got burn in after 2 months. Some had it for a year before it showed.
@Voidward10 ай бұрын
I have over 10,000 hours of using my LG CX as a monitor. Zero burn in. I do have a reduced brightness mode for desktop use with dark mode but it's honestly mostly for eye comfort. I will straight up leave bright white blocks of tweets on the screen and walk away for hours with no issue. And I do game with HDR. I genuinely don't think it's a concern in normal usage scenarios.
@iceagex10 ай бұрын
Don't worry about burn-in. Just keep an eye for dead pixels.
@michaelmonstar427610 ай бұрын
I don't remember if the QD-OLEDs have that MLA-tech, which are micro-lenses that help increase the brightness, which LG uses with their "third gen" of panels now, PLUS also a heatsink. And I think that helps take the load off the actual OLED-panel so that it doesn't need to run as bright and hot and thus wear down as much, which is really what permanent retention is, just weakened pixels that don't go as bright anymore. - PLUS, as RTINGS has demonstrated, the mitigation different manufacturers have implemented over the years help a LOT. As in, a panel can show some noticeable image-retention after a good run, but then it will run a "cleaning process" to do something to the panel, which you can't see (it's not like using imagery or anything), and that actually helps even things out again very well. I would still kind of watch a lot of static icons and HUDs and menus though, just by changing things up regularly. But overall, we've finally arrived at a point that it's not a big issue anymore (with some of the latest panels anyway), which is what I've personally been waiting for over perhaps a decade or whatever, and I'm actually getting my first OLED-panel (TV) ever this week probably. And I'm coming from a 2009 Plasma, which definitely has darkened areas from things like channel-logos and subtitles (I'm not the only one who uses it), so yea... I'm very glad they've "resolved" this issue to a great extent, because those panels are expensive, and it's also just a waste if they become inconsistent, even if it was cheap.
@null_geodesic7 ай бұрын
It doesn't, microlenses are specifically designed to mitigate the issues of color filtered WOLEDs which inherently lose a lot of the white backlight when they're filtering out the subpixel. MLA recovers some of that light. QD-OLED works on absorption and reemission via quantum dots, it transforms incoming blue light without losing any noticeable energy. All OLEDs start burning out from the second you start them, within 6 months you have burn in on 5% greys and within 18 months, on 50% greys. Not using them or using them on a black screen really doesn't count to panel hours. The only question is whether you can discern it on screen depending on static elements, but the entire panel wears down as you drive more voltage through it, exacerbating burn in further with panel refreshes. Really, all those mitigations do is screw you out of the warranty period because you can't make a claim on burn in on time and you're stuck with a useless brick that can't be resold. I have an AW3423DWF and I'm enjoying it, but I am very aware that I need to get it to burn in within 3 years to get a replacement and then resell that before moving on.
@hakunamatata32426 күн бұрын
The reason I haven't upgraded my 2018 Samsung Q7FN QLED 65" Imagine paying thousands of dollars for a faulty technology that you have to disable a lot of features only so it can last longer while questioning "When will it happen with me?" Nahh thanks.
@Micha-pt7ljАй бұрын
my lg tv shows a shade at the top where the score counter in Rocket League is and the shade of the Boost meter in the lower right corner constantly. Im really rethinking my oled decision. but i must admit, i had it at max brightness, because i thought why paying so much for an oled if i dont use all of its advantages like bright colors.
@mikew108010 ай бұрын
Been in the oled game since the LG 6 series, never suffered burn in. All of these panels were primarily for gaming. Never used screen shift, never used logo dimming, or any other protective measure. It honestly makes me wonder what people do to their tvs.
@leonro10 ай бұрын
you probably just don't game enough at a time and/or don't play enough of the same gane to have elements burn into the display also, the colours will be rather uneven after the panel degrades, even if there's no visible HUD elements burned into the panel
@ZenzDeluxe10 ай бұрын
If you want to see some examples, visit monitor subreddits like /r/monitors, /r/ultrawide, /r/OLED_Gaming. Just recently i saw a guy burn-in an OLED of only a couple of months old because he plays DoTA 2 10 hours a day. Those static UI elements were burnt in good. Like the guy said above, you just don't game enough with the same content. But there are certainly usecases where burn-in is still very much a big problem on current day OLED screens.
@mikew108010 ай бұрын
@@leonro you'd be wrong. The E6 has dimmed some, as it should being 7-8yrs old. It's been left on pause for hours before, used for hours long gaming sessions. The screen still shows no signs of burn in when pushing solid colored slides or 5 or 2% gray. Colors are fine, but I recalibrate them annually with my spectro and colorimeter. The worst of it is a drop of about 20nits, which while measurable, is not noticeable in practice. If what you've stated has happened to you, you've clearly done something wrong. We don't watch TV, we are gamers. There is nothing to fear on OLED so long as you aren't torturing it. Don't put them near windows or push solid pictures for days at a time and you're fine.
@GraveUypo10 ай бұрын
I do a bunch of mitigation stuff. Some of it i would do anyway even on LCD, but... - no wallpaper (it's just black. only reason i wouldn't do this on LCD is back a flat black screen on LCD is gross with all the greasy light leaking and IPS glow) - dark theme on everything - auto-hide on windows bar - very low brightness most of the time (this is more because my room is very dim most of the time and i don't want a screen flashbanging me eyes every time, plus i don't like when brightness fluctuates too much on desktop due to ABL so i just keep it at a level that it... doesn't. The difference i that i want mine to last for at least 6 years, and preferably 10 if possible, not a few months. 3 years or maybe 7000 hours in and we're fine. Things i don't do that i should: hide the browser tabs and menu. if anything is going to burn into my screen, it's probably that.
@thegrimyeaper10 ай бұрын
Haven't seen a TV burned in since the CRT days.
@xbone895010 ай бұрын
CX owner here with over 7k hours with most of it in HDR and some movies 0 issues with burn in.
@gordonfreeman97338 ай бұрын
At that “for science” I got strong Portal vibes 😌
@TheTheShizzler10 ай бұрын
I have a handheld with an LCD screen that has worse image ghosting than my C2 OLED
@Cubenruben11010 ай бұрын
I have a 65 cx model no burn in after many years but my c2 42 inch got burn in with in 300 hours of use. LG just replaced the panel for me this week. I believe it got burn in because I was working all week long and noticed it was left on by kids for 3 days on one image.
@andreaslehmann15368 ай бұрын
let me know what happened to you, but i got the windows logo burnt in after a year or so with an lg c1 (slight but visible with white picture). i used dark mode though, i think bright mode might not have caused it. the task bar was almost black, the windows start logo was basically set to white.
@TheBroz10 ай бұрын
People worry too much
@WEBLY1212110 ай бұрын
Guys Oled burn in isn’t a issue What you need to worry about is the tv in the sunlight (or having the tv in the shade but with a slither of sunlight That will burn in more quicker than burn in Keep your screens away from direct sunlight or you will damage the panel
@everett88117 ай бұрын
Well it is still an issue. The fact we talk about it so much means it's an issue. There are so many people that still get burn in is the only reason why it's still a conversation. If nobody was getting burn in this conversation would have died out by now.
@DeckTested10 ай бұрын
Had a B9 for years and not had any problems, previously a C7 which my brother uses and it’s good as new. 👍
@CristianLopez-xi4rt10 ай бұрын
I'm on my second 4K LG OLED TV with my 55 in. C1 used as a Computer Monitor on my living room wall. I used to be afraid about burn in with my first OLED TV, I used to do the picture refresh every so often and ended up giving it to my mother and got myself the C1 2 years ago. Now the only thing I do is have a black wallpaper, dark mode and autohide taskbar. The only burn in I see is on gray screens is a faint vertical line in the middle of the TV and an even more faint line horinzontal line. But HDR on OLED, plus low input lag and deep blacks outweights the cons, I'm never going back to LED TVs (Though I would buy a true MicroLED TV if it meant each pixel was its own LED)
@bnutz3k10 ай бұрын
I leave my desktop up a lot and I did notice some burn in, but running the pixel cleaning mode cleared it up!
@rozhrahman866310 ай бұрын
There are CRTs that are 35 years old by now that don't show any signs of burn-in or degrading of the level of the pixel's brightness. This situation to me is like the joystick drift. The dreamcast didn't have drift.. So basically nowadays we see situations where old technology surpasses these " new (next gen)" technology that don't even last for 4 years. And not to forget, it's costs more than 1000$!
@dis69008 ай бұрын
I have 2 OLED's for the last 5 years. Not one issues with burn in or dead pixels. LG and Sony have really improved the tech to where I feel it's safe to pull the trigger on one now. I game on my Sony everyday and it's been totally fine. I also have an LG Ultragear OLED monitor and it doesn't even show image retention let alone burn in and I'm not careful with how I use it besides a screensaver after 5 minutes of use OLED is the way to go even vs MiniLED.
@heisenballs8 ай бұрын
I want one so bad, but I'm so scared that I'll get a dud and have to go through the headache of RMA'ing it. Its kinda ridiculous that this is still even remotely an issue tho, OLED tech is pretty mature at this point.
@alephnole700910 ай бұрын
I've had a c2 for about a year as a desktop monitor and had zero issues so far.
@NaptownClassic10 ай бұрын
I have two different OLED televisions and an OLED monitor. My first OLED television, an LG C7... which I no longer own, did suffer from major burn in. Using it as a monitor, the start menu (which I now hide) and KZfaq's right side list of videos, were burned in. LG replaced the panel for free. The newer ones, an LG GX and LG A2 as well as a Samsung G8 OLED... the only precaution I take, is that I turn them off when I walk away to do anything in a different room. No burn in, heavy use on all of them. Gaming, productivity... you name it. They all get put through their paces. High brightness, HDR so on and so forth. I suppose I do also have the built-in pixel shift and such turned on too, which I am sure helps. So far, so good though.
@glottis810 ай бұрын
Just don't play at full backlight and brightness and it should last for a good long while.
@oldb313910 ай бұрын
I use and abuse a 55 C1and a 42 C2 without any anti burn in precautions. Even turned of GSR and TPC in the service manual. Both are fine. Mainly used for gaming.
@robertallen468522 күн бұрын
i have a LG CX 55" that i bought in jun 2020 and def have some image retention from taskbar but i cannot see it at all unless i do a burn in test video with the static colors, still cant see anything while gaming or watching any type of content
@murray8212 ай бұрын
There is still a general agreement that OLED burns in, I guess it’s a stubborn lingering problem from the early adopter days. I have no problems whatsoever. People that have burn in on newer models apparently don’t let the panel do its cleaning cycle. Don’t switch off power to your screen after turning it off people. And those stress test torture sessions some channels do are just misleading. I saw one about the Steam Deck OLED and they let it run continuously with a still image. And then they claim, Steamdeck OLED burns in after 600 hours or something. Like any normal use would even cause that in that timeframe.
@RobCabreraCh10 ай бұрын
I have the Alienware QD OLED monitor and I am terrified of burn in. There isn't much on mine that has been going on for about 7 months, but there is definite retention in a 16x9 box in the center from watching videos or shows, or using my PS5 to game. I still love it, but I'm sad to see it deteriorate. But the good thing is that I do have that warranty to take advantage of later in life
@IwinMahWay10 ай бұрын
You have 1 life. Live it to the fullest. Fear will wont let you enjoy your screen for even a single second.
@456MrPeople10 ай бұрын
To be fair QD OLED is a fairly new technology compared to conventional OLED. Compare the first OLEDs to a modern one and there has been massive improvement. I expect the same with QD OLED.
@ozanozkirmizi4710 ай бұрын
Dear friend@@456MrPeople It is not about being old or new,. It's the murderer blue light in quantum dot method. As you know, quantum dot is not developed for oled... So, unfortunately it does damage oled panels (relatively) faster. For now, white light is better for oled panels. Hopefully, things may change in the future...
@lilpain199710 ай бұрын
And this is why I tell people to not get the AW3423DW if you play console. So many do not understand that you can burn in the aspect ratio. I use mine for 21:9 gaming only due to this.
@ss_lemonade10 ай бұрын
I have the same monitor, used it for work at a 16:9 resolution and yeah, I burned in parts of the taskbar and the entire 16:9 section is slightly discolored. This was approaching 1 year of use. Dell support was really quick though, getting a replacement in less than 2 days. The nice thing I guess with the replacement is I got a monitor with a newer manufacturing date and newer firmware
@MadaoAU10 ай бұрын
i was so worried with my C2, that i took precautions on some games, but i stopped worrying atm. If it happens probably it wont be as severe as in the past
@Slomwotion10 ай бұрын
My 5 year old c8 still got no burn in.
@kyle_28410 ай бұрын
I got burn in on my CX after about 18 months of monitor usage, with some mitigations. The guys on here mention using their TV for a 'full year' or 'several months' with zero evidence of burn in, but I just don't think that's a particularly useful time frame to refer to when people are concerned about this happening with their sets because most people would not consider that a long time of ownership I still like using OLED but it's a very frustrating aspect of this technology.
@unjustkatana2 ай бұрын
You don't need to worry about Burn-in because anyway your TV won't last long enough to notice it. TVs now make them good enough to last like cellphones.
@formulaic7810 ай бұрын
I have a B9 which is about four years old and I use for around 2 hours a day on average for PC gaming. No burn in detected whatsoever.
@Kmaitland8910 ай бұрын
I have an LG C2 and use it however I want. It's my main monitor that I game on sometimes for 14 hours a day. I've taken ZERO precautions and have no issues so far.
@felixr630710 ай бұрын
Yes. Unfortunately. Burn In is still a thing for OLED.
@Jcool72116 күн бұрын
Hi thanks, I have older LG (E7) which was used in PC, PS4&5 and movies. It has quite bad burn in but not because of gaming or PC usage. It is just a bad panel which is in the end of the life situation. I can see some bad burn in spots and the "frame/panel" structure visible in red/orange and magenta -colors. I think It needs years to have burn in at least in LG tv. Currently I have the Samsung s95b in my daily mixed usage screen (65'') and I bought extra warranty for 5 years including burn in. I'm not worrying too much :-) But I know already, it's there for sure. It's coming but not because of the PC or gaming. OLED is just dying from the first day of usage.
@guilhermejrmarin10 ай бұрын
Just bought a C3 My first OLED, im so happy, if you wory to much you dont live
@HanselTheFrog10 ай бұрын
I have burn in on my iPhone 13 from google maps. I’m a truck driver so I use it a lot.