Do you love Xander Harris? | Buffy the Vampire Slayer The Harvest

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Take a deeper look into these 6 things in the show Buffy the Vampire Slayer: The Harvest. Season One, episode two

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@seanmalloy0528
@seanmalloy0528 Ай бұрын
I think he helped them think outside the box
@MiraSmit
@MiraSmit Ай бұрын
Was kinda annoyed at him at first, but he grew on me.
@LetItSnow51
@LetItSnow51 Ай бұрын
I love Xander . I think he gets an unfair wrap as "the toxic one" when i ccan name several characters that have have done worse but are seen as lovable and/or cool . Hes super loyal and will lay down his life for those he loves.
@NerdyInvestigations
@NerdyInvestigations Ай бұрын
Exactly. Glad I am not alone on this point
@LetItSnow51
@LetItSnow51 Ай бұрын
@NerdyInvestigations I was on the Buffy reddit for a time and there were daily "I hate Xander " posts and once or twice I posted what a few others had done (including Wesley's Fred obsession in Angel s3 and 4 and the replies I got were " he deserves to be happy" and "Gunn betrayed him.) It clear to me different opinions weren't welcome. Name anything toxic Spike did and all the replies were "he didn’t have a soul but loved her anyway. ) The absolute disconnect is wild.
@NerdyInvestigations
@NerdyInvestigations Ай бұрын
People will turn a blind eye to anything their favourite characters do. I wonder if people hate Xander so much because he has human flaws and people can see some of the things he does as things they would do/have done themselves, where as it is harder to connect with the things the others characters have done.
@caesarjergens
@caesarjergens Ай бұрын
I am not on Reddit and it seems more and more like a good idea. I never knew people hated Xander and honestly I have no idea why anyone would. He is no more flawed then the rest. I mean Willow skinned a guy alive because he accidentally killed her girlfriend. Sure Warren was an asshole but compared to most of the evil ones in the show he was pretty harmless.
@LetItSnow51
@LetItSnow51 Ай бұрын
@caesarjergens I haven't been on in about a year or more because their were daily posts about how terrible he and you get attacked for defending him or points out Willow, Spike and Wesley (mostly on Angel) weren't perfect. I would say Willows reaction to Xander kissing Cordy was far worse than Xander's snide comment to Buffy after she turned him down for the dance; he didn’t scream or say she had "gross emotional problems". Xander didn't owe Willow a date just like Buffy didn't owe it to Xander but Willow gets sympathy and Xander gets hate. Xander and Willow both cheated together and Xander gets more hate. Xander did do the love spell and he's treated as horrific and it wasn't a good move but Willow repeatedly wiped Tara's memory (who aside from what Glory did to her came from a controlling family and i wish they'd let Tara go at her for that,too) and carried on their relationship in a way Tara probably wouldn't have if she remembered and Willow gets an ",everyone makes mistakes pass" and wanted them back together. If Xander had done that to Anya the outrage would probably want him in jail. I also don't like how the show treated his alcoholic household like a joke or his friends would ignore it like when Cordy said he ha5s to sleep outside on Christmas Eve because it's so bad and Buffy and Willow have no real reaction. A lot of YT reactors are the same way where there's a chosen few whose flaws are excused but not Xanders .
@Itsjandz105
@Itsjandz105 Ай бұрын
I like Xander too. He is the most relatable character of the group. No matter what the situation he is always willing to put his life on the line for his friends. Oh and he is hilarious!
@PeterParker-ff7ub
@PeterParker-ff7ub Ай бұрын
he's great.
@silsahchne7236
@silsahchne7236 Ай бұрын
No, he was the idiot
@rebeccarodger2636
@rebeccarodger2636 Ай бұрын
I love xander too ❤️ I've done extensive research on the recent xander hate and have come to the conclusion that it stems from shipping culture and lack of philosophical writing in todays television (content over story) . The show very clearly says in season 1 that nobody will ever have a healthy relationship (I robot you Jane the last scene). And Joss is on the record saying that he is a nialist and an absurdist using philosophy to shape the stories that he is telling. He also uses the show to examine toxic behavior and how we grow and regress because of it. There is also a running theme that the whole narrative is built around where xander is buffys metaphorical heart. This means that when Buffy is dealing with matters of the heart xander will be the one to play out the metaphore that is happening. Examples: s2 becoming, xander tells buffy to kick his ass because buffy can't go into a fight against her first love and probably soul mate if she thinks he is saveable. She needs to use all her strength to fight him. The whole season was her trying to find that strength and harden her heart so she could do what needed to be done. Buffys heart (xander) knows she can't be torn between wanting to save angel and needing to stop the apocalypse. Season 3 when Buffy is confronted by everyone after xander finds her with angel he is portraying her guilt back to her. In season 6 buffy doesn't love herself and starts a toxic relationship with spike at the same time that that blows up xander leaves Anya at the alter... what buffy feels xander acts out. Basically people now a days are to focused on who they want to be with who, they neglect to see the themes the show is trying to talk about. Also people don't find Nicolas brenden as hot as James Marsters and David Boreanaz therefore focus on his toxic masculinity and overlook the other representations shown in the themes because they want to smexy time with spike and angel but not with xander 🤷🏻‍♀️. Xander is never rewarded in the narative for his toxic behavior and the show is using all the characters to highlight toxic behaviors and the consequences of our choices. "If nothing we do matters then all that matters is what we do"... and I would add to that "and how we grow" Xander grows a lot but doesn't get a lot of credit because he never becomes supernatural... hes just like us and nobody wants to see their faults reflected back to them. I love Xander 😁
@NerdyInvestigations
@NerdyInvestigations Ай бұрын
This is exactly what I feel about Xander too. There is so much to his character and meaning behind everything in this show but people just don't want to look. I was looking for newer shows to review for the channel and I found that I keep going back to older shows that had characters that are interesting and deep and that is hard to find these days. Thank you so much for the comment. I love reading all the examples and thoughts.
@caesarjergens
@caesarjergens Ай бұрын
Xander was the heart of the show.
@NerdyInvestigations
@NerdyInvestigations Ай бұрын
He really was
@az21bob666
@az21bob666 Ай бұрын
people hold xander to a far higher standard than anyone else, every bad thing he did i can show someone else doign it to and there never attack for it.
@theodoremorrow4763
@theodoremorrow4763 Ай бұрын
How does it "break your immersion" to use the technology available at the time?
@NerdyInvestigations
@NerdyInvestigations Ай бұрын
It's not a slight on the show for using technology, because it would be stranger if it didn't, but more about the show feeling dated. You cannot hide how old the show is when technology looks like that. Additionally, for me I start thinking about what it was like back then, how we got on without mobiles and remembering how excited we were when we had a computer class in primary school, and I stop paying attention to the show I am watching. So, it pulls me out of the show.
@alexmckee4683
@alexmckee4683 Ай бұрын
@@NerdyInvestigations I don't get the complaint that it is dated. It _is_ dated. It doesn't make it irrelevant. BtvS is set in the 90s/00s as well as filmed in the 90s/00s.
@NerdyInvestigations
@NerdyInvestigations Ай бұрын
@@alexmckee4683 I agree that being dates doesn’t make the show irrelevant. It was just something that really stood out to me in this watch through and I wanted to comment on it.
@sergiolangston5540
@sergiolangston5540 Ай бұрын
I can't Xander and that's never going to change, he the most selfish, unapologetic and hypocritical character in the show
@divinelangene6813
@divinelangene6813 Ай бұрын
I like him , his very human
@CelesChere9999
@CelesChere9999 Ай бұрын
I liked him from the start then he got questionable then just obnoxious, but he still goes back to likable at times. He's just a weird character to me. Then again I'm only halfway done with season 5.
@williambowman1660
@williambowman1660 Ай бұрын
Good overview of the episode. Yes it’s a second half because the original intent was for a 2 hour movie. The network, the WB, only showed 2 hours of new content 4 nights a week. Some points…. Xander is just Xander. He is the lower middle class suburban American boy. He does not have a super power, not a great intellect, or possess a unique talent. He is a boy that is decent, has honor, and tries but like any of us can be selfish, petty, and unaware. That is a reason many don’t like him because he is themselves. And that is one of the reasons BTVS is great. The show takes a central character and makes him flawed and wonderful, witty and clueless and every contradiction that makes us human. For me that is what makes Xander a great Scooby. He can sometimes excel and then the next week disappoint…. But isn’t that every teenage boy? You questioned the padding. Yea it’s there but often for budget reasons. They did not have money for special effects in every episode so… that is why Buffy kills the vamp off screen. To save money some of the kills are off screen or repeated . Some of the demons are costumes borrowed from other shows and staying on a character saved on time and set up. What they did with so little money or network backing is remarkable. Finally, there was uncertainty about the viability of the show The producer and creator, Joss Whedon was from 3 generations of network television writers. He knew to get a shot me needed to be under budget, on time, and give the executives what they wanted. So if this was a ratings disaster, it could be complete with a one and done. The shows has been finished by the first airing and would break even with one showing and one summer repeat. The show could move forward and I’d was failing it could be role in 3 to 5 more episodes. These are some of the constraints and challenges put on the production and as such causes undo criticism. I think with the very small budget, the lack of support, and the shooting schedule they were given…. Season 1 does a good job and does allow a solid foundation for Buffy and the Scoobys.
@NerdyInvestigations
@NerdyInvestigations Ай бұрын
Thank you for the information. I love learning more about this show
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