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Bingo.

Yep,they make you in to the reason things are as they are and "why do you do it." Then why can't you just forget all that 😅 I'm a hermit now because I can't tell who is who and I'm so tired.

@@monicawarren3678 THEY ARE SOOOOOO POWERFUL 🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪NO ONE STOPS A SAVAGE MISERABLE JEALOUS ABUSER 🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪

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False accusations of having affairs.

Remember this whatever they accuse you of is exactly what they are doing to you whatever they tell of other people about you whatever rumors they spread or what they are doing to you​@@melisentiapheiffer3034

@@melisentiapheiffer3034 While they are having affairs themselves. Accusing others of misdeeds which they are doing.

​@@melisentiapheiffer3034I grew up with both my parents doing this except they both were doing it. Gross

​@@JohnShalamskasyep, it's gross

that is an interesting perspective "family terrorisr" im wondering what his basis was...

Indeed they are.

Terrorism happens in our own homes. It's bewildering because it was someone who we trusted.

When you're with a malignant narcissist, you begin to realize it's terrorism.

@@melisentiapheiffer3034 i said interesting perspective NOT what the hell you talking about... terrorism textbook ...group A does something to group B to get group C to react to group B for group A. psychology minor! jesus tried to flood the earth for a reason human are not trust worthy! yes tried it dried didnt it!!!

Perfectly said 👍

​@@alimccreery755Perfectly

In my experience, and I am experiencing this as we speak, that power dynamic is real. I am not in a position of management, yet a manager at work has taken a dislike of me. I can read the situation very well, but those around me are not familiar with the concepts of narcissism in the workplace, or in life in general. I am. Narcissists get themselves into positions of power in the workplace, supervisors, managers, but do not generally raise above this position. ( Lower levels of rank in police forces or military and that in lower levels of nursing, care homes, are other examples).

@@davevenables3534 I understand what you’re saying as I’ve also been there. Fortunately not with every supervisor and also with a few leads as well. I managed to friend a lead from a different team who told me after I explained what was happening to me that I was being used as a diversion. I knew something wasn’t right and when she used that term it all made sense. These people seem to all work off of the same script so I just pay attention when I’m socializing to who I need to stay away from.

@@alimccreery755 the diversion= triangulation?

I made mistakes at my job like 15 years ago. I was a good employee in some ways but in other ways I was a bad employee when it came to one issue. This one guy made it his mission to humiliate me and talk smack to me. I hardly knew his name and yet he was always obsessed with what I was doing. When I finally started calling him, out he acted like I was the insane one and me talking to him was out of the blue and he didnt like it. I realized it was because everyone thought he was a shitty employee. So if he found someone who he could point the finger at, he did. I think it made him feel better about himself, so he stuck his nose in people's business. Idk why but your comment just triggered a memory in me about workplaces doing nothing about it.

@@josereyes1148 I'm just there right now with my boss. Thank you for your comment, helping others to understand what's going on in such cases. One thing I came to notice is how little self-esteem these stupid bullies have. They feel threatened by anyone with anything better than them, and can't help but focus on your flaws to feel better (or make them up if needed). I don't believe you were a bad employee, but made to feel like a bad employee.

@@Bellasie1 Thank you. Just stay strong. It 100% is that your boss is insecure about something about them. Knowing this helps a little. Hopefully your situation will get better for you.

or schools.

The corporate world loves these bullies for several reasons. Because corporations have no time for substance, they easily fall for cockiness, being unable to tell self-assurance from arrogance. When aware they deal with a bully, they know that person will spy and gossip on other employees and that, being mean and self-serving they will also report against fellow employees without hesitation to their boss if need be. So corporations favor them. Bullies tend to be full of shxt, so they're generally no real threat to the ones recruiting them either (contrary to genuinely good employees). A last reason is that, as they tend to get ahead in corporations, bullies would often be the ones who recruit and favor those they recognize as their kin.

Yep... Uggg

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So true. Mine too.

She roped dad into it, too. Though he was an enthusiastic participant. Wait till your father comes home. I still skip dinner at age 62.

Same here !

Me too❤

Bullinarian

That is still the case, schools do nothing to discipline the actual bully

So true, I actually put your explanation in my phone, it sums it up succinctly.

RadmanGarrertt Interesting - I did not consider that idea in “ zero tolerance” - 🤔 You bring up a good point that the zero tolerance needs to understand the psychological abuse is abuse. That gets tricky as often teachers are not aware of all the dynamics involved. And often school systems are designed for reform rather than teaching. My situation was public school ( In the 70’s the teachers were at a loss as to how to handle it. )By high school it was more dealing with psychological social terrorism. I handled it well because I grew up around a social terrorists . I focused on my studies. That said even as a girl a bully called me out to meet for a fight after school. I managed to talk her down and save her face. Bullies do not respect authority and they did not care. In my case id public school they also ran in packs like wolves so it was difficult to suspend all of them. And they intimidated the teachers. One teacher was so fed up he reacted one day and it almost cost him his job. I have heard other stories where the bully sues the school when a teacher stands up to them. Bullies are cut from some cloth or apples don’t fall far from the tree. Bullies make it appear that if they target one kid - it can seem like it is the kid’s fault. This has become a very serious situation with the bullied kids feeling powerless and reacting with over the top violence - hence “ zero tolerance “ policy became necessary but as you mention made it worse 😳 Bullies are master manipulators so they can flip victim into suspect. That is a really valid point 👍 You are not alone. I was fortune in the sense that I got away from the one school and landed with teachers who understood me. I was fortunate that I did not lose my love of learning. And that can be the tragic part of abuse. I found a way to believe in myself. However the psychological conditioning sets up a target for other types of bullying. My heart goes out to you. A reaction to abuse is not abuse.💔❣️ I hope you continue to understand you are not like them. A bullies are weak cowards.🫶 Yeah I hear you the head trip is how it becomes a he said he said - it is infuriating. It is no wonder that targets end up with psychological problems. It is a miracle that we survived and we had “ normal lives”. I was on top of this and my own children went to a smaller school and I leaned into monitoring any potential problems. However I could not be there all the time so I suspect some stuff happened. Thank you for sharing your POV . With awareness there can be more information shared and insights help level the playing fields - because bullies certainly do not play or fight fair 🫶

I hear you. When I would call out my mother for mean things she would say, I'd get "why are you being so mean to me?" I'd say: you were just mean to me by saying (fill in what she said). Response from her: You're just being mean.They'll never admit their bullying.

Deserved

How sad your mom treated you and your family like that. 💔

Some kids learn from their bully parent to also be a bully. 😢

Excellent comment.

Exactly. And when any of that shows itself in us as a learned behavior, they cry foul and say we're the bully, when in reality it's a direct reflection of what they did or said to us. Not saying we're right in displaying the same crap they did. Just that it's totally hypocritical when they don't like seeing themselves displayed back to them. It's on us to unlearn that and not continue the cycle.

I remembered my childhood, so I remembered that teachers can be absolute bullies and would stand up for my kids accordingly.

Sadly adult bullies exist more than kid bullies. If a bully in school. His "parents" are much worse. Where do you think they learn, get it from.

The question begs why would she out of the blue want to “ beat up” someone? Huh that seems so odd ? I am not a violent person. And after years of enduring psychological torture and bullying from my older and at the time my much taller sibling ( I caught up in height) When she would pop to randomly pick fights with me, I told her if she ever touched me again I would not stand for it. I did not hit her but I held her down and said this is the last day you physically abuse me. I did not hit her. I restrained her. My single father was not present and he was beside himself what to do about it. She later used co conspirators to triangulate and play victim. I felt that there was no one there t to protect me. The kicker is that I knew what she was going through and I felt sorry for her!!! It was my biggest mistake and how she later conned me. I was not proud of this dynamic and in order to not get her own hands dirty she figured out a way to get neighbourhood bullies to beat me up. It was her way of showing me who was in charge - the irony is it took me a decade to put that one together . Her excuse and her justification to her toxic dysfunctional co conspirators that it was to “ toughen me up”. Later I was into circuit training and in her twisted distorted mind probably took credit for that sweat equity too. It is unnerving when bullies who psychologically control others cry massive crocodile 🐊 tears and act like the ultimate victim ( it was a foreshadowing on what was down the road and she lured me in with a fake apology ) I understand that it is a defence mechanism and she became like that due to her wounds. But it was not my path. Oh the stories she made up about me and the authorities she used to flip narratives. That to the day is what stuns me the most. She flipped the script about the day I threw her to the ground ( but not around other bullies. ) And that is only the tip of the iceberg - she usurped my identity in ways that are beyond stranger than fiction. And her audacity to play victim adds insult to injury. Of course around other bulky personas she puts on a different show. Ah The Tall tales they spin and webs they weave when they practice to deceive- all while playing innocent or acting dumb. She attacked me physically a few more times and even as adults. The last time she was insanely jealous that I had too much attention at my own birthday party. It was often when she felt a loss of psychological control over me or a loss of attention her persona would burst at the seams. As an adult around her co conspirator’s who were more covert , her main weapon of choice became - gossip. She utilized gossip and a smear campaign as her weapon of choice. For instance she may say that I put her to the ground ; if her shame could tolerate it but significantly leave out the entire story or the reasons - why I defended myself. When I would defend myself verbally if she was caught it became a she said she said sibling rivalry. I eventually confronted her this was only the tip of the iceberg of a long list of things - she also felt entitled to steal from me. She flipped scripts and continues yo attempt to re write history - but there is documentation. Yet she goes around it on the down low. Gossip is her weapons of choice - The blame shift after decade of bullying is a joke. The last time she physically assaulted me I said any next time and I will press charges. She infiltrated every aspect of my life as a way to get ahead of consequences. I am not proud of the dysfunctional dynamic but I would have never thrown anyone to the ground who had not been attacking me first. Self defence is different that being bullied. She also tried to claim that she was the “ scape goat” the master manipulator who had the majority of family wrapped around her dark finger - i laughed so hard. She also claimed that i was “ bullying “ her ( by speaking my truth) I laughed - yeah a shy quiet 5 year old can bully a tall aggressive bully - I rolled my eyes - -the tyranny and blame shift is far from funny. It is not funny how good they get at playing ultimate victim.. after they spent decades acting like a tyrant and a bully.

Yeah, I lived that life too. When I first was a nurse, I was not that experienced and could be unsure a lot of times. That made me a target with one nurse in particular who felt it was her right to bully me. I finally had enough of it for a year and decided to have a conversation with her about her rotten attitude towards me. Interestingly, the outcome was she was in tears and I felt closure to her crap. We worked together for a while, then she went into other pastures aka surgery to bully those nurses there…

@susanpressley2781 its absolutely absurd ...I've been a nurse for over 30 yrs and the behavior has deteriorated to disgusting levels. I believe the hospitals encourage it as it keeps nurse fighting with each other and not them. Good for you speaking with your bully....didnt go so well for me...I was set up and fired 2 weeks after the conversation.

@@user-tn8fu1gx3voh my I hate that you we’re fired! I was working the weekend shift and stuck with her. She was charge nurse and I figured I was gonna get fired but I was gonna stand up for myself too. I’ve NEVER done that before, always walked all over. But I took a chance and it paid off that time. I’ve been bullied all my life. It felt good to stand up for once.

@susanpressley2781 I complained to a narc manager about a narc charge nurse they were friends and set out to destroy me in addition to many other unfavored nurses. I was unaware about narcissistic behavior back then and assumed the chain of command would work...lol. That NICU lost 100 nurses in 2 years because of the abuse, including physical abuse and death threats. Its was so absurd that NOBODY would believe the small group of vocal " complainers." It was a horrific time for those involved.

@@user-tn8fu1gx3vgood heavens! Well, consider it a blessing you were fired and didn’t continue there. I stayed on my floor for 21 years, but got a new narc manager. She was a covert bully. I was like, no, I’m too old for this and retired. Glad I did!

I agree. Because I'm pleasant & cooperative & get a bit passionate & emotional, people think they can push me around. But at a deeper level, I am made of steel & they always push me too far & I leave the relationship. I just blocked someone I'm involved with in a committee because she pushed it too far at her nasty games. I'm kind of glad she did, because now I can have a more peaceful time without having to navigate a relationship with a very manipulative person who simply uses & abuses me. I don't feel guilty or worried about cutting her out, & if I need excuses or reason, I can just point at the latest nasty threat, twisting & denial - she's so brazen, she put her manipulations in writing & copied it to the group.

My mom.

I had to get rid of a 'friend ' too. Treated me like I was pure stupid. Sad for her, I wasn't.

I've always felt that I have no protective ally except me. That's why I fall for these narcissist guys who come on as heroes but in the end it's just another bully I've invited in to my life..

❤❤❤❤ to both of you.

I hear you! It's tough but just continue to be the good person you know you are

Similar thing happened to me a couple of years ago. Mobbing from my extended family and it was quite devastating but I don't regret the fact that I see their true colours now. There's one cousin who isn't like that and his family treat him like the scapegoat, like everything is fine in the family except that person who avoids talking to them. I'm thinking I don't blame him for avoiding them, the poor bloke must find it so hard having to live under the same roof as them. He's a man of few words so we don't talk much but I respect him for not playing along with their games.

Lots of bullying in retirement communities to residents by residents. It's gross

Are you kidding me!!! People suck

Also, HOA's . New laws are needed to protect owners.

@@luvyatubers I never knew this! will have to rethink my retirement ideas.

​​@@luvyatubers Even in non-retirement communities, too. I unfortunately got sucked into the toxic vortex a former neighbor who was an overly "friendly", covert narc and turned out to be a two faced gossiping, pseudo-stalking, energy vampire. But now she has moved far far away...I truly thank the cosmos for this, and do not take my newly found peace for granted. Pls learn from my tale- take it very slow getting to know ppl even neighbors - vet their character to gage who is trustworthy, honest and emotionally stable.

Horrible…I am so sorry this was your life😢

Sickening yeah he had to make you the family liar in the event you started broadcasting that’s criminal. I’m sorry.

"Betrayal cuts deep, and there are always co-conspirators." - might be from Ramani, I can't remember. The only thing more wretched to me than child abuse is knowing how often there are multiple bystanders. That parent died nearly a year ago. I sleep a little better every night. To better days and more peaceful nights 🥂

I'm so sorry these things happened to you. I'm super glad you made it out.

I was branded a Liar by dual narc parents and also the scapegoat for my wholly messed up family. Your dad's words, echo what a doctor said prior to molesting me. I had fractured bones in my foot and my narc mother refused to take me to the medical clinic 2 doors away. Where my dad worked. I hobbled to school, etc. in pain for 10 days--then, upon returning home from school one day, mother snapped I was to go next door to the clinic. SOLO! The doctor wanted to know what took so long and I relayed how I had told her repeatedly about the situation, but she thought I was lying. He then asked "Do they think you ALWAYS lie???" Ended up with a cast to my knee (not a walking cast) and crutches. My mother had to pick me up and upon doing so, I was in the lobby post-appointment and crying. I said "I told you it was broken" and her nasty reply was "I suppose I will have to hear about this the rest of my life." No special accommodations were provided for bathing, walking to school, etc. Was sent ALONE to same doctor for cast removal. Later down the road at age 18, my dad got me a Housekeeping job and I got to clean this man's toilet 5 days a week.

Your life sounds similar to mine. My mother gaslighted me from my earliest years. She tried to get everyone in the family to see me the way she did. P.S. I ran away for the last time when I was 15, the authorities got involved, and I was removed from her custody.

My mother started bullying me when I became of an age when I started to doubt what she said about my father, saying she was a victim. As a result she felt out of control and told everyone in her family (I was the only child and my father had no family) how awful I was. I used to wet myself and that led to more bullying and invalidation

This happened to me frequently as we moved countries 3 times before I was 14...always the outsider until one day I snapped. Something just happens inside of you after months and years of bullying

And, please don't vote for a BULLY running for President / DICTATOR..

Bullies and narcissist are all about feeling superior they could feel superior or over your brothers. They have to be dismissive and disrespectful to you to prop up their house of cards.

I believe you. I was the oldest too and from a young age, I was a nice kid but I spoke up against things that weren't fair. I didn't know this would put a target on my back regarding my two communal narcissistic parents. I was shredded in words and actions. At some point in my adulthood, I thought we had all evolved but when a crisis hit, they fell back into scapegoating. I got run down by what had become a mob. I finally saw it and realized it was never getting better and was done. I left and went no contact. I was in danger with them. I made a good decision when I left and do not regret doing it. I wish you happiness and good fortune!

@@lolo9553ify I spoke up about the unfairness, too. You made a great decision in leaving your narcissist family. Luckily, my parents and sisters moved over 100 miles away. My exes live thousands of miles away. I don't miss them at all. Thank you for the wishes! I wish the same for you. 😄

jersey pool: me too. A Narc magnet, I used to wonder if I had a 🎯 on my forehead.

Same here, It's time.

Yes, we learn to "give them a second chance" and make excuses for them.

costelloandlizzie: ditto for me. I'm 73 & went no contact w 2 narcissistic mean siblings when I was about 5 years ago. Best thing I ever did.

Informative

Yes, but because they are so self serving and ambitious, by that time they have gotten a great deal of authority and money and power. They are in leadership positions while having these disorders and then we wonder what is wrong with the 'system'.

Then why are so many psychopaths in CEO positions? Your logic makes no sense

Being a CEO doesn't mean a person isn't struggling with issues.

I have CPTSD. The war of growing up caused 🎉

Just my story I've been no contact 10 days with my mother, feels like heaven 🎉🎉

Me too,just to hear my suffering through her,it's therapy.

@@monicawarren3678 Absolutely

A friend told me: you wouldn't go to the hardware store and ask for a loaf of bread. They don't have it to give you. Why go back to your family when they have nothing to give you? Same with my mother. It cycles, but most of the time I'm glad I'm no contact. It cycles back to wanting to contact her, then after a week or so I realize there's no point.

@@MaggieFreespirit Yeah,very good advice. It's tough isn't it because, I don't know about you, but I have always had hope that she'll realise and apologise and love me like I always wanted. But you're absolutely right. If it's not happened over 50 years, it's not going to is it? She spent her life from the age of 16 pacifying a narcissist and became a terrible bully herself and sacrificed her own children hor him. It's still shocking to me. I just don't understand. It's so frustrating.

Yes. 3 nightmares when you buy a $$$ home: 1. Neighbor who is narcissist. 2. Neighbors dog barks at night & you can't sleep. 3. Neighbor plays loud music at night & you can't sleep.

Your mom didn't do anything about it because she liked the chaos. The triangulation was happening on its own with your sister bullying you herself. Your mom's work was done for her and she didn't have to try to create more chaos.

@@loloworld593 thanks for the answer, many scapegoats really cannot believe my story, because of course they assume the golden child is sheltered and protected from all the rest of the family. Maybe I still can't make sense of it, but it surely proves my mother is and always was very sick.

I was my dad's golden child, which made me my mom's scapegoat. The more he praised and supported me, the worse she treated me. Perhaps that's what was happening in your situation, except your sister was doing your mother's dirty work.

I actually bet you were not the golden child. I bet they just told you that so that you would think you were the golden child and therefore would not complain or understand about the things that were lacking in your childhood. Those families are tricky. They can convince the abused that they were loved and that they were not in anyway abused. It’s the worst kind of gaslighting.

@thirstonhowellthebird I wasn't told that I was the golden child. That's how my dad treated me, whatever his motivations were for doing so. And I did complain and speak against the scapegoating, which only made me more of a target.

Yea😢

I went to grief counseling for a year over my relationship with my daughter. A narcissist and bully just like her dad. It was bone crushing....

Damn...was the Psycho killer doing anything to that Child??

​@@wendyfitch625A journey many r facing. I found I'm healing the trauma, it's the absence of my child that took longer. May we both n others create a new way of life🎉

​@@anettszabo108??

Yes. You will have peace at last.

Especially as adults at work.

And yet the texting is a record. It can be used.

Or, better yet, and legal system that was timely, affordable, and fair.

Vigiliantism is bully itself. Mobs use vigiliantism to bully people. In Pakistan, Nigeria and other countries minorities such as Christians are bullied by vigiliantism because they rejected Islam. Something simple like rejecting Islam in Pakistan, Nigeria can get a person killed by mob.

I have been bullied in every "community" I have tried to grow any kind of life in, for decades, since the internet took off. My life was destroyed by people who do not care about due process, truth, health and safety, or anything human and decent. I have been forced into a hellishly boxed in prison, to literally lose my life, having committed the "crime" of not pleasing some jerk, who decided I didn't deserve to live. All of you went along with this. I see you ALL as you have shown me you ARE. You CHOOSE to justify your evil. There is a BIG FAT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO THINGS.

Just another version of bullying

"An eye for an eye" leads to blindness on both sides

Well said...and so very true!

I don't think your mom is narcissistic. She seems as if she is an awakened person who sees the traps of government, which a lot can not do. She is right. We are sovereign beings, but it has been stolen from us as soon as our parents signed our birth certificates.

@@melisentiapheiffer3034 Ok, you are wrong. You don’t know my mother like I do, I was (and still am) her scapegoat, my twin brother is her golden child because he enables her delusions (he is also a sovereign citizen) and has grown into a full blown NPD as an adult. We are estranged. Covert Narcissists use ploys to gain attention (narc supply) and I just wanted her to do a video on common ploys. “Sovereign Citizens” epitomize narcissism.

Another common ploy Covert NPD use is pretending 5g and WiFi are radioactive. That one is quite funny. Another common ploy is claiming earth is flat and making victims prove to them that gravity is real. Being a “sovereign citizen” best epitomizes Covert Venerable Narcissists.

What came to mind when you described your mum was Paranoia And out of touch with reality Psychoses Glad you put that other commenter in their place like you said They are wrong!

@@lindac2554 as she ages the paranoia gets worse. She is perpetually the biggest victim to ever walk the earth. Here a funny and true story (you can look it up if you want): my mom is a “sovereign citizen” as one of her ploys to get attention. I work on ships as an ETO (electrical engineer) and while working on a yacht called M/Y Utopia IV we crashed into a tanker with such catastrophic force that it sank. We sank a gasoline tanker in 2,000ft deep water. I was badly injured. My mom ignores my injuries of course because it doesn’t benefit her and she suggests rather than using the top maritime & admiralty lawyers in the country I should represent myself and she is an expert in maritime law so she wanted me to spend $399 on a sovereign citizen class online. I am not making this up. Our crew’s trial is in October. Last year before Christmas the same yacht also crashed into the 6th Street bridge in Miami 4 blocks away from the US Federal courthouse our case is litigating in.

@nicoledburns82 thank you for sharing 😮. And every family is different and each human too. But your post resonates.