I heard that it was if your thumb was _wider_ than the _stem_ of the cloud.

with all the mini nuclear reactors they had running everything from cars to robots, do you think the radioactivity of the wasteland would be as long as the game says?

the Power Armors and Super Mutants!!

@@jaackaboytheiii1107 As long as those mini reactors remained intact I´d say no. If they got damaged however they would essentially become dirty bombs with very short-lived radioactivity and not very far-reaching.

Radioactive half life in bodies of water

Probably wise

I go with “no”

​@@alex.g7317exactly. Depends on if you identify as organic or inorganic

@@j7... I identify as an identification.

I literally can't think of a more fitting situation for the phrase: better safe than sorry.

That opening scene hurt. I know it's fiction, but my God....All I could see was my own daughter asking me that question.

that intro gave me chills tbh.

Rule of thumb is used in perspective. The idea being that your thumb to arm ratio will be the same as others if they're different sizes than you. It's why you see artists holding up their thumbs and seafaring used it too. So, the very tragic part is supposed to be that if she's asking, it's too big. Her thumb is perspectively the same as a larger person because her arm is shorter. The point isn't the science, it's that she asked.

I felt myself asking my dad, knowing the silence that would follow...

​@@youtubinanshit What was your question? How does your sperms count?

😳👍

It's also more subtle humour, rather than telling the audience what it is, or being too crude about it.

A far darker twist to the story, the thumbs up is giving legal consent to being vaporized...😮

​@@VeeCyberpunki like the idea of if you put your thumb down in front of a nuke it just wont affect you

As was my intent lol but on the darker side consider the underlying tone suggested, that world leaders squabble then people that aren't even involved in the argument pay the price... it's a mad world we live in.

Dont. If you see a cloud and you are still alive, then it wont kill you anyway. Get yourself a mask, swimming goggles, some water filters and go opposite to wind direction.

Unless you aren't. That's the real problem with this method. It's post-hoc, merely meant to give you a feeling of control when it's all up to the whims of your betters how close you are to an explosion... since you can only do this after it's gone off and well... by then it's too late to do anything with that information if you are even in a position to gather that information to begin with. When it comes to nuclear war, the only winning move is to move to the middle of nowhere, a completely uninteresting nonstrategic location. This is also the best survival strategy for plague and zombies and roaming raiders... but then there's the tradeoff. The total isolation from social structures means no help if you injure yourself in a much more likely mundane way. And then there's the encroaching madness of hermitage

Not smart. Nukes never hit the same place twice. The safest place during a nuclear explosion is actually in the blast radius

@@12mmratchet84 Oh right! Also, the radiation only gathers on the north side of tree bark, and if you get any radiation on you, you need to get someone to suck it out.

Wouldn't cover be more effective? I'd imagine running would get you far less safety because you're just exposing yourself in a sprint and only covering like a quarter-mile tops

He just made sure nobody in that settlement no longer will need his help, ever again.

@@FM-kl7oc "A settlement needs your help!" "I have permanently removed this settlements need for help."

He's not a supervillain.

He's very stupid about the ghouls video

@@andromedagalaxy6369your fun at parties huh

it must be great being in a walmart just close enough for all the frozen food to get perfectly cooked

@@ASlickNamedPimpback great for the food, not great if you don't want to get perfectly cooked yourself

Only cockroaches can survive ​@@Faizan29353

I saw an interview with a Soviet scientist who witness the Tsar Bomba blast. He was very far away, I forget how far but it was on the scale of at least a hundred miles or more. He said the most terrifying thing was feeling the heat of it on his face. He did not expect it to be that hot from that far away. Yeah, F that noise.

Imagine being far enough away that you ask yourself "Did I leave the fan off?", and then finding out about it shortly after. Just like, fan on, heater off, blinds closed, and then realizing that the bright light that made you think the blinds were open in the first place isn't sunlight, and oh hey the nearest city is gone.

Yeah I agree it's sort of like a parody of "duck and cover" which was actually taught to kids in the Cold War. It's not supposed to actually be true even in the Fallout universe.

yes, hop on a horse and run for your life

Something somebody without some real speed would say 🥱. I'm pumping the jets

jokes aside, drop behind cover, flat to the ground, cover your ears and open your mouth. If you're far enough, this avoids most of the damage from the blast wave.

Why open mouth?​@@23AlexandreJ

@@RADscouter the pressure wave from the blast must pass through your head somehow. If you open your mouth, it will have a big free path to go through without major harm. If you don't, the pressure wave will make a path, going through your eardrums and rupturing them.

It would probably be so large that there would be people too close to read it

It'd be cool if they could lens the x-rays so the fireball has the imprint of like, a logo or something in it

@@isbestlizard I really hate the idea of branded nukes, but you made me laugh. +1.

@@samgordon9756 Printed "THIS SIDE TOWARDS THE ENEMY" all around it.

​@@carloshenriquezimmer7543let's be real it'd be anime tiddies

It does work. Like "Duck and Cover" (the real US slogan of the 50s) it's only purpose is to give the population peace of mind by giving them a simple rule to follow. "See, nothing to fear. If it's further away than this it's safe. Otherwise run for the vault and come back out in a few months. Everything is fine, nothing to worry."

@@Oktokolo Duck and Cover can protect you from parts of the blast wave, particularly flying glass and debris. The light travels faster than the shockwave, but it's still mere moments. Better than nothing. Maybe save some lives at the edges of the blast zone. It's probably more useful if you see the bomb being dropped or the missile incoming.

@@Oktokolo So kinda like WW2 Keep Calm and Carry On.

Right? It's honestly pretty par for the course haha

@@joseph1150 or hear the sirens

Yeah it's never explicitly stated but it is HEAVILY implied in the games that china dropped the bombs because after the US invented power armor they started roflstomping them. I think it is more than likely that the lore was changed because muh politics.

Nuketown? I prefer Flavortown

This is just blatantly not how it works.

Also fun fact. If you are at another specific distance from a nuclear explosion you can grab yourself a magnifine glass and light your cigar with it in the most dope way ever.

@@GogiRegion I mean it literally is. It's thermodynamics. It's why you can pan sear meat and then let it rest to let the heat dissipate and it will continue to cook the center. Food would be cooked. But because the thermal radiation is a rather short timespan, I can't see how bigger food items would be cooked without the outside burning. The char would have to be legendary.

@@GogiRegion It’s like saying you can put a frozen turkey in the oven at 9000 degrees for a second and think it’s cooked. What you get is ash covered frozen turkey. It’s literally still freezing just below the surface like meteorites that streak through the sky ant thousands of degrees and fall still frozen to the ground.

It has the opposite effect though as people who would be at a safe distance from the explosion would do the rule of thumb and then think they are dead

@@bielknife It's the activity of it. Most of this kind of well meaning propaganda was all things people 'can do' in a situation where they have no real control over the situation. Hell, it honestly works as most people would do what they did in the first episode and try to get the hell out of there. That's still good advice because the hiroshima/nagasaki event is the only time where only one side will be lobbing nukes. And, like the first episode showed, where one fell, its likely more were to follow, so run while you can.

Duck and Cover was mainly for people stuck in the overpressure areas, to protect them from flying/falling debris.

Bah. Duck and Cover gets a bad wrap. It was descent advice for an attack with Atomic bombs delivered by airplane.

@@2centschange That and it also had the added benefit of people remaining stationary. In an emergency situation in a crowded area, the majority of injuries aren't from falling debris, fire, smoke, etc. It's from people hurting one another in their panic to escape. Even if it weren't though, ya gotta tell the people SOMETHING so they feel like they have SOME kind of control. Basically social conditioning to pacify the anxious masses so they don't freak out, even if the threat never actually materializes. It doesn't do MUCH, but then again there's not much any gov't institution can UNIVERSALLY teach people do during an emergency. Nuclear bombs? If it gets to that point we're all screwed anyways, so might as well give people the best advice we can for ANY kind of emergency: tornado, earthquake, plane crash, etc. (and if they package it with simple animation & a catchy jingle it'll apparently last for over half a century). It's not gonna do much to save people from getting cooked like a hot pocket, but at least they're not gonna trample each other before then. One of the truest lines ever uttered on film: "A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals, and you know it."

The acceleration will paste you, but you will receive a lower dose of radiation.

I think OP might be referencing that one scene from that 2008(?) Indiana Jones movie lol​@@samgordon9756

Make sure you can open it from the inside. Else you're stuck until some vault dweller comes and helps you out.

Or he will become a mommy future archaeologist will make fun of ​@@1987jaffa

@@samgordon9756Not if you’ve got duct tape 😉

If it makes you feel better, you can use a thumbs down. It's the same size so just as effective, and you get to stick it to the spectre of nuclear annihilation as a bonus.

pssh look at those losers dying to a nuclear bomb, skill issue. lets shame them *emotes thumbs up*

Exactly. If you can see the cloud, you're pretty much fucked unless the wind is hurricane level away from you.

@@aliengranpa Did we watch different videos? I thought Kyle just demonstrated that not only is there a safe distance to see the blast, but you can actually be *closer* than Fallout says.

​@@chiloutdude5130 Malmstrom AFB is also a missile base, meaning it would be heavily targeted in the event of a large-scale nuclear exchange. There really wouldn't be ANY distance that you could get to that would be safe in the time it would take for a first or retaliatory strike to reach the base, so you really wouldn't have to bother with trying to get away. Your fate is pretty much sealed at a missile base once the missiles start flying, so you might as well put your feet up.

@@allurbase1000 Too true what with every missile silo or hardened hanger on base getting its own hundred kiloton care package airmailed but I think he was taking exception to that other commenter generally contradicting the idea there can be a relatively safe viewing distance (just obviously not if you're standing at ground zero of the next Boom-Boom.)

@allurbase1000 Especially since not only did we know the Soviets had Malmstrom as a target, but we had Intel that said we were targeted for sub-surface burst. Like one of the forecasters I worked with would put it; "they were going for the gophers". I was reminded of this every time I prepared an EWO package.

Thats what I was thinking trying to remember my CBRN classes in the USMC

That makes more sense 👍

I remember a rule of thumb in fire fighter hazmat training too. Something about if you are upwind and can cover the scene with your thumb, you are a safe distance away.

Yeah. Given the guy talking about it in the scene was a Marine and referencing USMC training, my interpretation of it was either "propaganda to keep the grunts from running away after the blastwave and thermal pulse has passed" or downwind fallout. Or both, given what I've read about Soviet front line nuclear doctrine.

U have 15-20 min to build & prepare a bunker to survive in for 2wks is alot. #1) that's almost guaranteed that it won't be up to code. #2) enough food & water for u & however many ppl w/ u for at least 2wks? Ppl can go hunting/fishing all day & come back empty handed. My nearest grocery store is a 15min drive away from my house. Guess we're just staying there.

New York

I think in general staying as far away from a nuclear explosion as possible is sound life advice. Never a bad idea to get further away from it if reasonable to do so. 😀

It's not actually a thing, though. Never has been. It's a misunderstanding of something from the EMS/Hazmat world - it was never applied to actual explosions in progress for all the reasons Kyle outlines.

@@skepticalbadger Yes, I did watch the video. My point is that if you use it, you'll still be safe. At worst you've had to travel some distance unnecessarily.

"Duck and cover"

​@@MaeBeemaybe, but if your underground bunker with enough food for a year is a mile towards the blast and still smaller than your thumb, maybe it would be worth the risk.

😂

Not so much protection from the bomb blast, but protection from falling objects. Still teach people to do the same thing in earthquakes.

Technically correct!

The best kind of correct.

yeah, but i think if someone sees the cloud they will understand(hopefully) pretty quick that this is bigger than their finger

But it's still useless because, as stated, if you aren't dead or maimed from the blast in the first place, the only thing that's likely to get you is the fallout, so all you really need to do is measure wind and figure out what precautions to take from there. You wouldn't just put your thumb up and go "well I'm downwind but, eh"

@@ULTRAOutdoorsman But then you can lick your thumb to determine wind direction and skedaddle in the opposite direction. It all comes back around to thumbs!

I think the thumb thing is a derivative of an actual method to approximate distance. If you know the size of the target, how many times your thumb fits in it will give you a rough assessment of the distance(I don't think it works with a nuclear marshroom)

If you have time to check them you’re in the “safe for now” zone

the thumbs-up method is really for downwind fallout. you have 15 mins iirc to close doors/windows and secure large amounts of water before the fallout blows to your area. after two weeks, most of the particularly-dangerous spicy dust will have decayed enough to be less dangerous, and you can more safely go outside.

That wouldn’t apply. Unless you knew where the blast was going to occur. The bast happen, and you then look, you are safe from eye damage. If you happen to be looking at the target area when the bast occurs, your retinas are fried instantly.

@@dr.robertjohnson6953 how do you know this guy's thumb isn't faster than the speed of light? kidding, thanks for injecting some logic here.

The whole rule is nonsensical. The blastwave goes around the speed of sound and the cloud will still be rising by the time whatever's gonna hit you hits you. There's no right time to apply it, it doesn't take aerial or ground detonation into account, it doesn't help you at all. It's just baffling dogmatization of some stuff a support artist drew for Fallout Tactics.

Sure, agreed. But also a very good parallel to the real life duck and cover. It isnt about saving lives, it is about reducing panic at the moment. Put your oxygen mask on as the plain crashes and such. ​@ULTRAOutdoorsman

Plane*

this generation thinks they're more informed "cause the internet" when we were getting actual education on channels like PBS and the history channel (when it was still about history) and BOOKS but let them tell us all we're the ones making up lies

And he can stay there 😂

-General, another settle- -Shush Preston.

Preston Garvey didn't like that

Another settlement needs your help. Let me mark it on your map.

I'm sure he's gonna tell us about it too

How would you use it if the threat is invisible to the naked eye...??

Yeah, doesn't work. They just want people dying at least giving a thumbs up.

@@MannyJazzcats Well, for starters it's a very rough guideline, mostly intended to impress upon folks that this stuff is dangerous and "distance" is important. Even with invisible threats though, there is still typically some physical thing (an overturned tanker, a leaking tank, etc) that it can be applied to

​@MannyJazzcats if your thumb is melting, you're too close

If they are teaching that in hazmat response classes, that instructor needs to be fired. Chemical spills, etc, can (and usually do) put hazardous particles into the air which then brings into play the downwind hazard area which would totally make gauging safety with a thumb useless if not laughable.

You do the thumb thing with the cloud, not the blast, which you're unlikely to react to in any meaningful way in time

😂😂

don't look at the flash.

its the flash you are not supposed to look at because is like 100X brighter than the sun and will blind you. The thumbs up thing, if it worked, would be between the blast and when the shockwave hit. Honestly you don't ahve much time though, so you are probabyl better off jsut assuming its too close and hitting the deck anyway. Worst case you took cover for nothing.

Why can I see the bones in my thumb ? 😢

Pretty much.

What about those guys that stood under a nuclear blast? Nothing happened to them and they could see it.

@@jimmac1185 yeah but that was airburst, and so didn't create very much fallout. But a ground detonation could create fallout stretching hundreds of miles.

It kind of depends. In “flat” terrain, the visibility of anything may be determined by the curvature of the earth and your own elevation, so a person in the foothills of the Rockies might see a nuclear blast in the Midwest that’s hundreds of miles away. If the wind is at their back, they’ll be safe.

@camam, nope. Nuclear weapons produce little fallout, it's not like nuclear power plants. What fallout there is from bombs will be livable after just 2 weeks and will be gone in month. The 2 weeks you can just stay at home if it's whole. Your much more likely to freeze or starve in nuclear winter then die from radiation if you survive in first place.

i noticed that the map details say it is for a 15 kiloton explosion...that was about the hiroshima bomb. nagasaki was about 20 kilotons...cold war icbm warheads are/were between 100 to more than 300 kilotons! and those missles had 10-12 warheads of those!!! so a city would be hit by several at once...so easily 1000 kilotons...and that radius on the map is for 15kt.... so...probably...what i wanted to say...is: ouch....

who said duck and cover doesn't work...

duck and cover is actually sound advice. Yeah its not going to help you if youre close to the epicenter, but nothing is. And most people affected arent (the area affected grows quadratically with distance). Most deaths, ignoring fire, are from the winds and low overpressure collapsing the building, but those arent enough to kill, or even significantly hurt you. Its the rocks, from the building, falling on your head thats going to do that. ducking under a table, like with earthquakes, can significantly reduce injury and mortality. Since any counter-value (targeting cities as opposed to military infrastructure) strike will be a high yield airburst, neither fallout or radiation (in the usual sense, i.e. ionizing radiation) will be an issue. Its all either the thermal radiation or the blast doing all the damage. If youre close enough for the ionizing radiation to be an issue, youve been already vaporized by the thermal radiation, and vaporized the blast. Thermal radiation also isnt going to be a huge issue with high yield blasts, especially in more western cities which are primarily made from concrete as opposed to more flammable substances. So to reiterate, duck and cover because thats going to help against the number one thing that can hurt you, the blast and its side effects. Try to keep your mouth open to avoid eardrum damage. But the radiation isnt going to be a concern really, besides causing fires and flash blindness. Its a different story if youre in the fallout range of a strike against a hardened target, as those are ground bursts, but the other advice you get is to "shelter in place", which is what you should do then, as most of the radiation will be gone after a few hours. How soon you want to leave your shelter depends on how well it serves as such (basically how thick of concrete you have). Usually a couple hours for a not well suited area to two weeks for a dedicated shelter. Basically try to get underground and wait for the worst radiation to pass, which happens relatively quickly.

“Duck and cover” is useful for conventional weapons and earthquakes, supposedly to help you survive long enough so that rescuers can save you from the rubble. Staying put in some emergencies is better than running (this assumption is one of the MANY reasons Grenfell Tower was such a disaster; people were told to stay put instead of evacuate). Problem is that it doesn’t take into account, you know, a mushroom cloud and radiation.

Like emergency exits on airplanes

Do you mean Like a Mask?😁

another commenter put it something like this: if it's bigger than your thumb, you've got 20 minutes to not get irradiated *downwind (forgot to include this)

Why would you say something so yet so controversial?

Exactly my thoughts as well. Proved the meme accurate... But tried saying it's wrong. 😅😅

This is the way I have always thought of it

I mean, it is a literal rule of thumb. Those are generally not supposed to be accurate, just a guideline

Yeah, that's what you are conditioned to think, along with everything else they teach you to convince you that as soon as a nuclear weapon is used the world as we know it will come to an end.

So what you,re saying is that the explosion itself is weaker than the real life bombs but they produces more radiation per detonation?

​@tauceti8060 exactly. The series is also based on comic book pop-science anyways. In reality in such a situation, humanity would either be extinct or would have recovered centuries ago (exchange was in 2075, games take place in 2500's).

​@@allengordon6929 there's plenty of self sus bunkers I think humanity isn't leaving

​unless whoever makes the bombs is someone purely evil@@allengordon6929

@@iwastherobloxianminecrafter there's plenty of claimed self "sus" bunkers that contractors are willing to sell you

well, going by what kyle says in the video the rule of thumb is actually very effective at keeping you safe... the safe distance was way closer than what would be required to cover the blast. so actually being far enough away to cover it would just make you extra safe....

I think that's sort of the point though. If you've got the time to sit there comparing your thumb to a cloud you were never in any real danger, if not, well its probably the last thing on your mind before your impending doom. The rule of thumb's real purpose is to prevent panic.

@@TheScarvig You have missed Kyle's point entirely.

Just dont forget to duck and cover.

Funnily enough governments did this in real life. In the UK there's a really good movie called "When the wind blows." It's about an old couple trying to survive after a blast based on the UK's "Protect and serve." Guidence. The movie breaks apart of silly and poorly thought out these solutions were. In reality they only existed to keep people calm and make them believe the government had a solution, a plan. When in reality, there is no hope when the bombs drop.

I always assumed the same, but then he clearly showed in the video that the radiation effects fall off after a _much_ shorter distance than the blast effects, so I guess we were both wrong.

@@TheDelinear that's the "fun" of radiation: the more reactive it is, the shorter it's "range".

But that did work. If you're not in the vaporization radius which was fairly small, an atomic weapon in airburst form kills with shrapnel. The building's windows blasted in or local trees turned into a shower of javelins. Like, people don't seem to understand that ducking for cover under something solid meant there was a way lower chance something would fall on you and just brain you lol

@@sunrisejackdaw1779 Thumb thing doesn't work. If every thumb is a different size and everyone's height and arm length are different...not to mention arm position....it is nonsense.

​@@matthewsommerville8911 they arent talking about the thumb

​@matthewsommerville8911 Exactly. My friend and I are the same age but he's a foot taller and his thumb is bigger and is arm is longer even though we're both adults. Too much variation.

​@@zxyatiywariii8If it's far enough away for it to be covered by anyone's thumb, or most covered, then you're probably fine. Of course, if it's the only one.

If the blast has already happened, getting to cover is likely more practical. Especially in a large nuclear exchange.

@@placeholdername0000 true I was just talking about the thumb trick though not actual practical procedures or SOPs

@@placeholdername0000 It depend on your distance (and winds and stuff, but that's overly complicated for a rule of thumb) whether you should hunker down or flee. Basically, are you far enough to be able to leave before the highly radioactive particles reach you - if not, you should wait until the most active isotopes have decayed into safer ones, so from a day to a week probably.

@@Sibula This is true. If you do leave when fallout or radioactive particles are nearby you're gonna want to make a suit to protect yourself against it. This is a last resort though, say for instance you're out of food and water and risk death. You'll want to cover your face, eyes, mouth, nose, skin, from head to toe. Tape shut any openings in your home made suit and very quickly get out of dodge. If you are in an area when the nuke goes off lay flat down head towards the blast, cover your head, close your eyes, and open your mouth. Being behind concrete or a strong structure is also important. You don't want your shoes melted to the ground, and you don't want your ear drums to pop. After that if its safe to, leave. If not, hunker down inside and board up all possible entries. This is a worst case scenario though, and you be much better off leaving if you have that opportunity.

@@KenjiIsMyCatsName If you're out of food and water, and it is within the first, say, 48 hours, your best bet is to stay in shelter. After the 48 hours, you should only leave for absolute emergencies. Though this will depend on the area, and the amount landing there.

That's about what I got from this. The Rule of Thumb overestimates your danger, so it's still effective

Ide be getting farther until I can find some shelter

Finally, someone tells it like it is

This is how storm chasers follow tornados, except they use those big foam fingers.

@@pudlmaker ok, my last comment was wrong. NOW someone finally told it like it is **cow from Twister flies by**

Other than the part where no vault dweller was ever supposed to actually see a nuclear explosion so it would make no sense for this practice to be included in their advertising. At best it's just one of these in-universe fictions where you somehow have the Vault Boy knowing exactly the way people will blow to pieces when you hit them with a tiny gun.

@@ULTRAOutdoorsman Bold of you to assume there wouldn't be any additional nuclear explosions in the post-apocalypse wasteland.

I remember a coment on this old BS "ROSTED as a Duck and CoverED IN BLISTERS"...

Burt the turtle is very alert🎶

@@carloshenriquezimmer7543 "Duck and Cover" was meant for people who were far enough away from the blast that they wouldn't be instantly killed by the blast. Well outside the instant death zone, there is a much larger zone, with more people and buildings, where the explosion will destroy windows and doors and weaken buildings. In those circumstances, hiding under a school desk is better than _not_ hiding under your school desk. The real risks are debris and glass. I know it's fun and all to dunk on Cold War fears from the safe distance of 50-odd years, but people were actually trying to work out _what to do_ if something like this happened.

You need to duck and cover at minimum through the up to 30 seconds thermal flash or you may get fatally burned by the radiant heat. And then as to overpressure, watch videos of people filming large explosions and see what happens to them.

It's fun when little coincidences like that happen. Makes it feel more immersive.

Almost got your head blown off

DUDE I was looking away and as I heard that, I look back to read the next comment, which is obviously yours. Freaked me out for a minute. Thats not a jump scare. Thats a fucking text scare. I was also thinking about getting up too, before all this bs 😂😂😂

if the cloud is 6.5KM's tall you're gonna see it from a long way away

@@MrOsmodeus and if it's from a nuclear weapon going off that's not something I'd really feel comfortable thinking "oh I'm a safe distance away from *a nuke"*

@@shaicat tbh, if this ever actually happened, by running away from one blast you'd probably just be running towards another anyway.

Ghoul time=longer life span👍

Or Toki from Fist of the North Star

And then you turn into a feral, thus proceeding to eat everything in sight 👍

Depends, not everyone can be a ghoul

......-'along with you thumb' 💀⚰️

The capital, no less.

My man secretly works for The Enclave, I know it!

Yeah, i'd be soiling myself if a professor used VATS to call me out

Straight for the head too

Is it concerning that apparently we already have damage to our heads?

I just got to that part

DC was designed to be a labyrinth of a city in case of invasion but they never took into account Nukes and made it equally hard to get out

A couple fire extinguishers might make you go faster!

You can at least be a skeleton storytelling device

Just lock you home securly and go into a basement

to be fair, DC is going to be a prime target...but its also going to have the best defenses.... now whether a defense against ICBM's exists is a different question entirely.

All of the dramatic footage from the Beirut explosion made it very clear that if you SEE an explosion and haven't HEARD it yet, DON'T KEEP LOOKING AT IT, GET THE FUCK DOWN AND AWAY FROM THE WINDOWS. 😆 In that instant it's not our instinct to factor how much slower sound/blast travels than light, and we're just staring at this mind-boggling sight we're trying to process until *BAM*... We need to instill the "hide from it like it's the Eye of fucking Sauron" reaction the way they used to teach duck and cover in grade school 🤣

@@grankmisguided both sound and the shockwave are slower than light and that is exactly what I was referring to.

Yep, that's what I said, we're saying the same thing...?

@@grankmisguided Beirut made it really obvious, but there's lots of other explosion videos out there and they _all_ show the same thing. And yet people still think duck and cover is stupid.

Unless you're already in a supersonic train zooming away from the epicenter, I don't think there's any practical way to get out of "vaporized" zone to Safe zone.

@@Appletank8 Supersonic would only save you from the blast, and only if you were far enough away to start with. The initial blast is well past supersonic, then the pressure wave travels at near the speed of sound. Ionizing radiation and thermal radiation both travel at the speed of light.

hold on, let me get in my car and AAAAAAAAAA

@@LFTRnow Actually, the blast travels at the speed of sound. Therefore, travelling at a supersonic speed away from the blast will always protect you from the blast no matter how close you were to start with. This says nothing about the other forms of energy released, tho.

@@bable6314 Would an SR-71 at Mach 3 be enough to go from lethal heat to survivable?

Not useless. It's only useless if you're too close to the epicenter of the blast, in which case you won't have time to duck and cover anyway. But even if you're within the shockwave, you have a chance to survive if you're in a basement or something similar. Further out, taking cover can protect from falling debris, similar to protecting against an earthquake. There were survivors of the Hiroshima blast who survived the blast itself, but died from radiation sickness days later. Since radiation effects propagate the least amount, this proves that people relatively close to the epicenter were still able to survive the blast itself.

@@EnigmaHood ya but that’s kind of what I’m saying, it’s the allusion of safety. It’s an answer to “how do I survive the bombs” that isn’t “oh you’ll die if you’re too close, otherwise you’ll die from radiation if you saw it, so you’ll die either way”

@@EnigmaHood ya but that’s kind of what I’m saying, it’s the allusion of safety. It’s an answer to “how do I survive the bombs” that isn’t “oh you’ll die if you’re too close, otherwise you’ll die from radiation if you saw it, so you’ll die either way”

I see it in line with staying away from windows during a tornado... it won't prevent you from getting killed if the tornado is strong enough and goes over your house, but it will keep you safe from shrapnel and stuff flying into the window if its far enough away. The psychological effect can't be underestimated though.

Rather be under a desk than out in the open...

And Nothing of Value was Lost. O.o

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"Not a super villain." But also "If you want to destroy the world you want to be efficient, right?"... 😂

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No need to help. Youre on the right track

Same, but with the Metro games.

Fallout 4 is a bit of a weird one for me. I'll occasionally get an urge to replay through something like one of the Half-Life games (HL, BS, OF, etc) or one of the first 3 FarCry games, and I'll eventually fire up my games computer purely to scratch that itch. I may play for an hour or two, or I may just do the entire game in one siting, but it depends on what other time commitments I have in my life. If I have to be up early the next day I'll stop playing at 8 or 9 and go to bed. I'll RARELY feel a compulsion to fire up Fallout 4. I'll usually only do it when I read about some amazing new mod for it, but once I'm playing, all consciousness of time goes right out the window. I'll look at my watch and realise it's 10pm and think "Well, I'll just finish this bit", then look at my watch and see it's 3am and STILL not immediately save/exit. The times I've gone without an entire nights sleep because I'd loaded that game, and only stopped when my bedside alarm clock has started bleeping is crazy. I don't think any other game hooks me like that.

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