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I loved the “nobody expected the Spanish Inquisition” comment. Thank you for another excellent, interesting video.

Love this format. Even without CKIII specifically... the idea of comparing real life to a video game is such a great educational tool.

The throne of Spain wasn’t united during the marriage of Ferdinand and Isabella. They ruled their territories separate. Spain didn’t unite until the reign of their grandson Charles I in 1516.

One of Queen Elizabeth II’s ancestors Patrick de Chadworth was a descendant of Layla ibm Malik who was born in Mecca Saudi Arabia.

My grandfather used to joke "Don't shake your family tree too much, you may not know what will fall out..." This is great. Two things I took to heart. We all have these wonderful stories, just that records have not been kept. I am not much of a religious man, but I do hope there is a heaven because I would like to know my whole story. I also enjoyed the comment during midivil times race seemed to be based more on culture that skin color. That is a lesson we could use here in the United States right now.

I found your channel as a suggestion next to a CK3 video by One Proud Bavarian. It was a wonderful find, and I'm thrilled that you were able to do a sponsored video with Paradox. Your charts and videos have greatly improved my understanding of the history and my enjoyment of the game, and seeing CK3 assets throughout the video was highly amusing and extremely entertaining.

Moor has always meant the same in the Iberian Peninsula, people that came from Mauretania aka Northwestern Africa, mostly Morocco. Them or their ancestors. They were, obviously, majority Muslim. But I've met enough Moroccans to testify that they are not black. Not everyone on the continent of Africa is black. Does this means Madragana was black? Probably no, she was probably Berber. Does this also mean she doesn't have black ancestors? No, she probably does, but probably not Madragana.

Only just started this video and I’m super excited to see Matt finally check out Crusader Kings!

Regarding Moors, from North Africa, some may be dark skinned while others have light skin. Think of the people from Morocco, as an example, when "Moor" comes to mind. Anyway, the point is that there is a big difference between a Moor and a "Black" African (e.g., Nubians).

This is a very interesting video, but I’m a bit skeptical about Mór Afonso. In Portugal, we use “Mouro” as a synonym for Muslim like the expression “Saracen”. Yes, it tends to refer to North Africa (Mauritania) but that’s because it was important to distinguish Arab Muslims from non-Arab Muslims in Al-Andalus. And since most non-Arab Muslims were Amazigh/Berbers their name of Mouros became widely used. But using Berbers to claim subsaharan ascendency seems like a stretch. Also, Mór Afonso could simply be a Mozarab, which were “native” Iberians who lived under Muslim occupation, so were sometimes called “Mouros” like their overlords.

Martim Afonso de Sousa, a colonial governor of Brazil and whose descendents make up a wide branch of the Sousa family in Brazil, traces back it's family tree to Martim Chichorro too.

First of all: nice clip! It once again shows us that most of these noble bloodlines are intertwined to a significant degree. Secondly I would like to add a few other similar ancestral claims, one also has its origins on the Iberian peninsula. In his standard work on Iberian ancestry named "Nobiliário de Famílias de Portugal" the famous Portuguese genealogist Manuel José da Costa Felgueiras Gaio states that the origin of the House of Maia partially lays within the dynasty of the Umayyads. The founding father of the Da Maia-dynasty is Lovesendo Ramirez, according to Felgueiras Gaio he was married to Zaira bint Zaydan, the daughter of Zaydan (or Zedao) ibn Zayd and a woman named Areguna Fromaríquez. This Zaydan is then mentioned as the grandson of Abdullah ibn Muhammad al-Umawi, the Emir of Córdoba. Lovesendo Ramirez himself was a supposed bastard son of King Ramiro II of Léon from the old Asturias-Léon dynasty by a woman named Ortega; the latter being either a daughter of a Moorish person named Sa'd abu Sa'dun ibn Ishaq or by an Iberian named Rodrigo Romães (though I don't think Felgueiras Gaio has mentioned those). An even more exotic claim is made about the first House of Bragança (not the later royal house but the one ruling the lordship), the founder of that house is decribed to have been a Britonic knight that married an Armenian pilgrim princess from the house of Arçruni (with roots into the old Turkic world and the Roman Empire); about the forementioned Asturias-Léon dynasty a similar claim is made (through the Armenian Mamikonian family). Mind you: there is an exilarchic ancestral trail that leads through the Caucasus as well, by means of the House of Mihrani and the Mihranid royal dynasty of Khartli in present day Georgia. A third similar claim is made about a branch of the Byzantine Skleros-clan; one of their scions was a magister named Romanos Skleros (latinized to Romanus Sclerus), a son of the Byzantine throne pretender Bardas Skleros; Romanos is thought to have married the daughter of the Hamdanid ruler Fadl Allah Abu Taghlib ibn al-Hassan (an Emir of Mosul), with supposed Abassid rooting.

I love that you answer questions that I didn't know I wanted to ask.

Btw, the term "moor" was also given to Iberian Muslims, who were the majority of the Muslims in medieval Iberia, so if the only thing known about Madragana is that she was a moor, that doesn't say almost anything.

Thanks for another thoughtful presentation. I really enjoy this channel. Keep up the fantastic work. 💞

As you know, the whole thing with Queen Charlotte is not because of her ancestor Madragana, but simply because of her pug nose "frizzy" hair in paintings and what modern people perceive as her "African looks" That's it. That's how this whole thing started.

If one goes back 10 generations, there is less than 0.1% of that person's ancestor's dna.. So they don't have that dna after 8-10 generations of that ancestor, unless they keep on marrying within their small ancestral community..

Interesting insights and discussions👍 Forsure there are. People are connecting to each other via extensive family

the Queen Charlotte theory is crazy, genetically it doesnt make sense, but also there are over a dozen portraits of her throughout her life and she doesnt look the slightest bit mixed in any of them. For comparison the Dumas and Puschkin families are great reference to see how mixed people were depicted in european art.

I literally love to watch your videos as I play CK3 and now this! Perfect!

Hey i think you made a mistake,Sancho the son of emperor Alphonso didn't have any kids so that's wrong,rather it is a daughter sancha who is the one who has children.

Really cool to think about how, Royals are just so privileged they could track this stuff back 100s of years. Its cool that we all share common links, and also cool that we developed such wildly different cultures to shape those links.

A lot of information thanks for the breakdown 👍🏻

I love your channel! Brilliant approach. ❤

Iain Moncreiffe wrote a book called HRH just about 40 years ago which was published just before Princess Dianna gave birth to Prince William that discussed William's genealogy extensively. Included in the book was a connection between the Windsor's and Vlad Dracula but more to the point of this video, it described a connection to Mohamed. I no longer have a copy and it is hard to find but he seems to have been a genealogist of some note and wrote a number of books on the topic. I do not recall the exact line that he traced or the sources he cited but I think if one were to obtain a copy it would be an interesting book to read on the topic. As a distant cousin of the Windsor's I enjoy seeing videos describing their ancestry.

Interesting idea and great video. Maybe a future video on the recorded Genghisid descent in European royals could also be interesting.

Great video - very interesting, and solid pronunciations ;)

I think the best future videos will be the dynastic histories of ducal houses (wittelsbach, savoy etc)

Matt, thank you for another excellent video! When it comes down to it we all belong to the same family regardless of our creeds, race, religion, or ethnicity. And, yes, as others have commented, using CKIII in your videos is genius.

I absolutely adore CK3 (and my main file is actually currently kings of Aragon/Valencia), so I am very excited for the Fate of Iberia!

I loved the demo and loved the thumbnail pics you put on the tree

Waiting for more Videos narrated by Matt on Ancient History ☺️

You're pronouncing "Al-Andalus" as if it were spelled "Al-Andulas," which is somewhat distracting. It's pronounced quite phonetically, roughly "ahl ahn-dah-LOOS." "Chichorro" does not have a 'k' sound in it. chee-CHOH-ro, even if you don't roll the 'r.'

Fantastic video keep it up your doing amazing job

this was a 17 minute long ad and i watched almost every second of it, great work lol

Great quality questions 👏 I always wondered how they those were made

I love CK3! This is one of the best targeted and best exectued sponsored videos I have ever seen on KZfaq. I definitely wouldn't mind if you worked with them again in the future. The maps and the portraits add a lot to the story! Well done!

Yes. The Hashemite King of Jordan. Many of the Royal families of Europe are related to him. Yiri Louda and Michael Maclagan. "Lines of Succession, History of the Royal Familes of Europe". It is a great illustrated book with the genealogical trees from the birth of Heraldry.

You should do a family tree on the Fairbanks house succession. And the long recorded history of the Medecalf/Metcalf/Metcalfe family

Your videos are amazing and very well made

I just recently read that the name “Andalus” comes from the tribe “Vandal”.

I think Jewish history since 1st Century AD is relatively unknown, a video on that would be interesting, I think! Great work!

Your voice is both soothing, yet professional. Excellent combination for FM easy listening.

You failed to take into account the timeline of the birth of Zaida's children. When she met Alfonso VI in Toledo around 1080, she was pregnant with his daughter to her Hashemite Muslim husband who died defending Córdoba from the Almoravids. She gave birth to Isabel. Later, she also gave birth to Sancho, whom Alfonso made the heir to the throne. Sancho died young in the Battle of Uclés. Notice the date of that battle and the date of births of Elvira and Sancha. The Sancha mentioned here is the ancestress of María de Padilla. She and Elvira were daughters of Isabel who was born in 1080. 1103 if I'm not mistaken, was Elvira's date of birth. The battle of Uclés occured sometime in 1107 or 1108, Sancho dying at age 18.

I believe that there's another way that Elizabeth descends from Peter of Castile and Maria de Padilla: through their daughter Constance, who was the grandmother of John II of Castle. John was the great-grandfather of Holy Roman Emperor Ferdinand I, and I believe that George III of England was the 6th great-grandson of Ferdinand.

I believe that your using the word "black" to describe a distant ancestor of Queen Elizabeth II is misleading. Moors at that time were NOT the same as "black sub-saharan" peoples, which are what are currently called Africans.

Fascinating, Thank you so much. Xxxx

Very interesting article, lots of research went into this.

I love how North African means sub Saharan African now. It’s truly revisionist history

So, it means that I'm related somehow to Queen Elisabeth as well. Lots of these caracters are present in my Family Tree, according to The Family Search site. Whatever, how knows?

I enjoy your content… This felt like an infomercial for the game expansion pack

amazing, I am a big fan of your channel and Crusader king : )

I’m loving this video Matt. Was just wondering with the new Lord of the Rings series releasing in September, could you do a video of the Kings of Gondor and the houses of elves located in middle earth similar to the video you made a few years back ago about the Houses in Game of Thrones?

Moors could never black, at least in thsi case. We have to think why this term was given to her and in the people of gave it: in Portugal, a Moor is, as well said in the video, a muslim from northwest africa, which isn't naturally a place with people that we today call "black". If she was black like the concept we use nowadays, she would have to be form sub-saharan africa, in a case where old portuguese would probably use the greek term "ethiopian", rather than "moor"

I love that you used CK3 in your video!

I know it's quite popular to say that the Andalusia Muslim states were tolerant. Recent historiography has begun to challenge this. For example, there were repeated pogroms against the Jewish population. Beyond this, they were only tolerant in comparison to the massively intolerant Kingdom of Spain.

The use of CK3 is such a good idea and would love more videos with this concept

Can you please make a video about the kings of Georgia Armenia and Balkan Countries?

Fascinating video! I love your channel!

Fascinating...thank you !

En el contexto Hispano "moro" siempre ha hecho más referencia a los musulmanes (marroquíes, principalmente), que a personas negras. Ejemplo de ello es la expulsión de los moros por parte de los reyes católicos al final de la reconquista, así que me parece muy dudosa la segunda opción, aunque no para descartarla.

"Muslim" is a religion, not an ethnicity. It would be like asking if you have any Baptist ancestors.

Excellent use of Crusader Kings III there. Bravo.

I also descend from all three of those people. Thank you for the knowledge 🙏

Correction: Jews were persecuted in the Christian Kingdom. They took shade under Islamic World.

'Everyone is a desendant of Royalty. So, I wonder where the current set up was err set up? Another fascinating clip. Thank you. CJ

Your videos are very informative

So basically, if you go some time back in time, everyone is ancestor of everybody.

CK3 + Useful Charts? Nice combination and a very "adequate" sponsor.

Apt video for Jubilee Week in the UK, all the better with a sponsor interested in a related bit of royal history!

You have inspired me to extend my own genealogy to include the Exilarchs. Thanks! 😅

You made Andalus sound like scandalous and I can't unhear it.

here we go again next 100 years if netflix still exist “I don't care what they tell you in school, Queen Elizabeth was Black.”

Brilliant as always!

I have traced one branch of my ancestry back to about 1650. They all lived within a few blocks of the same city, had a different/temporary trade in every record and moved a lot from dwelling to dwelling. On one of the records, the adress states "the front of 12VI, which, after visiting the house, I realise meant half of the top section of the attic. And records stop, presumably because prior to that time, the local church was not too concerned with poor souls. Not enough to write their names down in precious log books. It is both a treasure to have these records of historical people, but also a blunt reminder that I am happy to live in the present time.

Didn't expect this video to be about Portugal & Spain (sort of) Greetings from Portugal 🇵🇹 😄

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!

Always love your videos sir, but adding a sponsorship disclaimer would have been appreciated

Madragana was not a Moor but rather a descendant of Mozarabs, the Christians of Al-Andalus. Her father was the Qadi in Faro at the time it was the last part of the Kingdom of the Algarve to be taken from Muslim hands. Afonso III of Portugal ended the Reconquista in Portugal by taking Faro in 1249. It is not sensible to maintain that the man who completed the Reconquista in Portugal for Iberian Christians then immediately took a Moorish Muslim as his lover! Note that she was christened as a Roman Catholic only once some time had passed after she became the mistress of Afonso III: "She was christened in time, receiving her new name as Maior Afonso, or Mor Afonso, Mor being short for Maior, a common female name in medieval Portuguese." So, when Afonso III took her as his mistress, she was still following the religion she and her father had practiced her whole life before Afonso III took their home city of Faro. This is why scholars understand that her christening when she was the mistress of Afonso III was "most probably because she had been previously christened according to the Mozarabic Rite, the re-christening being done in the Roman Rite." "Aloandro Ben Bekar or Ben Bakr (also known as Aldroando Gil), was the Mozarab (Iberian Christian living under Muslim domination) Governor of Faro, in Portugal. He was the son of Bakr Ben Yahia and grandson of Yahia Ben Bakr, who is believed to be a descendant (possibly a grandson) of high royal official of Jewish aristocratic descent Yahia Ben Yahi III."

Zaida never converted to christianity and never married alfonso Vl.

Moor in Spanish (Moro) usually almost always meant north African and middle eastern Arabs. In England and Germany on the other hand in medieval times African = black so Moor= black

I think I’ve worked out Charles iii to Ferdinand ii, correct me if I’m wrong (this is just from my own research on my tree). Is it through the Beaufort line to John of gaunt and his line to Eleanor of Castile, her father being Ferdinand iii?

I love the fact you are using CK3 portraits

You went over one main point quickly. If you find a record before 1400 it is very likely that that person is connected to royalty. Most people without records had nothing to record. Those people who did own something most probably had a connection. My ancestor lines that do not dead-end mostly go back to royalty as probably most other people's charts.

The irony being of Jewish descent yet expelling the Jews from Spain and the Inquisition which tortured and killed Jews who refused to convert to Catholicism

Excellent! Thank you.

Lmao I always like to watch your channel and I was oh shit that's ck3 which I play a lot recently!

Thank you. Your introduction simply explains how we all COME from 1 and ARE all one.

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Fascinating again. Your end music is very appropriate for this one. Sounds a bit Medieval and/or Middle Eastern...! Maybe from Spain or North Africa too.

I know this is an older video but YT just recommended it to me because I like the channel. Also just started playing CK3 so this was a double win haha.

Moors (in Berber: ⵉⵎⵓⵔⵉⵢⵏ - Imuriyen)[ref. necessary] refers to the medieval Muslim and Arab-Berber inhabitants of Iberia, Sicily, Malta and the Maghreb and originally during antiquity the Berber populations of North Africa, especially the Maghreb. The Moors were not clearly distinguished from the Numidians until the Romans became aware of the existence of Berber kingdoms in the far west. Maures (en berbère : ⵉⵎⵓⵔⵉⵢⵏ - Imuriyen)[réf. nécessaire] désigne les habitants musulmans et arabo-berbères médiévaux d'Ibérie, de Sicile, de Malte et du Maghreb et à l'origine durant l'Antiquité les populations berbères d'Afrique du Nord, tout particulièrement du Maghreb. Les Maures ne furent clairement distingués des Numides que lorsque les Romains eurent connaissance de l'existence de royaumes berbères à l'extrême-ouest.

Very informative and interesting. However, your pronunciation of names and places leaves a lot to be desired!

Hi! could you shaere the sources you used for this? Specially for Paloma ben Yahia

keep them coming

In my previous comment I forgot to add something. The ancestral claims that I pointed out in that comment are about connections from the medieval era, but there is one that is relatively recent and quite suprising in my humble opinion. It doesn't directly relate to Queen Elizabeth II of Great-Britain or the 'medieval ancestral nobility complex' but it does in fact has to do with the British royal family, to be precise: the family of late Prince Philip Mounbatten, Duke of Edinburgh & Deity of Tanna Island. A cousin, in the second degree or so, of Prince Philip was Marquess David Mountbatten of Milford Haven (he lived from 1919 to 1970). Marquess David's mother was Countess Nadejda Mihailovna of Torby, descending from the Romanov dynasty; that is quite interesting in itself but that's not what this comment is about: Countess Nadejda was the grandchild of a Russian woman with the name Natalia Alexandrovna Pushkina, indeed the daughter of the famous Russian poet and novelist Alexander Pushkin. In his turn Pushkin was the descendant of a Russian major-general who was named Abram Petrovich Hannibal. 'Russian' as a qualification basically refers to the fact that Hannibal was an officer in the Russian Imperial army but it is a well known fact that he was African, described to have originated from Eritrea but later research has shown that Abram Hannibal was probably from the area around Lake Chad in Central Africa. My guess is that Abram was shipped from Eritrea by the Ottomans prior to his arrival in Russia, it is known that he was more-or-less enslaved by the army of Sultan Ahmed III. The point in the aforementioned is that there is indeed a fully proven and fairly recent ancestral link between the British royal family, be it in a wider sense, and Africa.

None that want to claim her .

Love your videos. Just one small thing, The pronunciation of El Andalus could have been polished a bit.

Love the maps from Al Muq