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200$ for the new intro is a great price

In N/A form, you won't see too much difference, but, when it's boosted or nitrous, it's night and day difference.....

Thats really good stuff. And will make even a huge difference under boost and that fuel and the ability to add timing and not worry

3 👍's up Engine Guy thank you for sharing 🤗

Well I guess there’s only one thing to do. Get a boosted donk on there and test them again. That’d be sweet. Thanks VP and Smeding Performance

Gale Banks would approve of your dyno setup lol. Nice

Best advertisement ever for pump e85. I think pump e85 is all you need. If you need more power just add 1or 2 lbs of boost. We’re already making 1300 hp on a 6.0 at 24 pounds pump E85. Not much need to change fuel change fuel, especially since pump e85 here in California is so cheap and test out exactly 85% ethanol. I’m sure e98 or c85 will make a lot more power boosted but can’t justify the cost. We’re already making as much power as the chassis can handle.

It would be great if you could do a follow-up using a boosted application. Thanks for making this video.

E85 has a negative affect on some engine oils ! - i saw a subaru sump full of black jelly = it said E85.

Can a fbo lt1 with dsx fuel kit tuned. run c85 for a roll night here and their??

Man I wish we had pump E85 here. Great episode brother.

Would you be interested in testing ETS Racing Fuels Z85?

I get it from Sunoco station in my area testing 89+ sometimes 93, never even seen 80% at shell

Should I run top oil with C85?

this is a cool test. would be cool to see some 1/8mile,1/4 mile or 60 -130 #'s to see if the fuels made a real world difference.

Gasoline and ethanol are not soluble. In the past benzole was used to bind the two. What is used today?

Pretty sure he said these gains were over regular E85. So it would be even more of a gain over pump 91-93

What percentage of additional fuel did E98 require VS E85?

E85 works perfect .. I make 950 hp on my GTR … all stock components… NA motors ..total waste… for VP…

Can you run a supply hose to my house please? thanks

Can you mix C85 with 93?

Over 20-25psi of boost, sure get the good stuff. For me a Turbo LS shitbox on the street, pump E85 is all I need

Looking at their pamphlet, VP always claims X% over other fuels. I've never seen real gains other than CHP+ and Q-16. C-12 compared to VP113 were identical in my combo, with C-12 taking the win as a fuel you can forget practically for years in the cell whereas the VP113 has special storage requirements. FWIW all the Q-16 tests I've run were worth 5 to 15 HP over the base fuel the engine was tested on.

Ok, so these are basically souped up blends. Of course, they will make more power. Also, an independent test from an unbiased 3rd party makes more sense without the manufacturer present. IMHO, pump E85 with content E sensor and flex fuel is the most cost effective. If need be add some X98 to bring it up in ethanol %.

So what AFR is the C85 ?? I want a jug ! Lol

Please compare VPE85 Vs VP X85

C85 can make more but not standard x85. Maybe x85L can due extra octane. I doubt x98 will make more.

I have ran pump e85, c85, and One ethanol R in my new 13:1 voodoo and the car loves c85 the best. Runs better, sounds better, makes more power and the burn is significantly better in my application. Nothing bad to say about One R, but the octane is a bit too high for my application, and seems to make my throttle a little sluggish, and the burn doesn’t seem as complete. Sticking to c85 all the way

Don't think you'll see a major difference not under boost. I think it's a solid alternative with proper mods to your fuel system

What was the alcohol content in the pump e85 that you used.

I forgot until they got to the c85 that this was an NA engine. That c85 on a tune up for it with boost…BWAWUUW

Experiment 🧪 with Honda motor 👀

What was the alcohol content of the pump E85?

I had Sunoco e85 sealed in 5 gallon drums stored in a cool location go bad within a year

I know someone just tested Nitro Top Fuel I think it's $399 for 5 gallons they took a beat-up LS1 5.3 lm7 did a dino number Maid 279 HP 303 foot pounds of torque... did not touch timing or anything I think... just adding the fuel in hit the Dino and I think the next pass was 500 + horsepower

How about 15% to 20% nitro methane!

Do they still have e85 at the pumps still,

Better do a cylinder leak test before you wrap it with a Corvette. Lot of breather action.

Paying for a fuel like X98 just to pick up 15HP, along with needing to change your base fuel just flat out isn't worth it for the large majority of people. You're wayy more financially better off taking 75lbs of weight off the car or throwing a cheap dry kit on and spraying a 50 shot.

Just filled up with E-85 that tested at E-79 for $3.12 a gallon , switched from pump 91 octane a while back , I'll never go back to 91 octane .

Without the dollar per gallon compared its not realistic comparison it's a Ad.

Hard to justify the price when Pump 85 is $3 a gallon.

C85 is king.

Then you are over fueling. Getting too much ethanol and n the oil. Another reason not to run it. Engine wear. Same with the drag engines I’ve worked with.

$13.40 per gallon for X85L and $17.00 per gallon for C85 compared to $3.35 per gallon for pump shell where I live. Your prices are higher then giraffe pussy for what little increase of performance you get.

Pump e85 about $3 gallon, bet the VP is 20+ per gallon….

Another Holdener level of a useless and incomplete test.

Nitromethane and MTBE.. ok, now I know why the 1050 Dominator I loaned to a guy came back a useless corroded wreck. I run E85 and E100 that I make from cattails in my carbs and fuel systems without issues for years, the 70 GTO has been on it since 2007. Seeing the difference between the fuel I make, 190proof straight ethanol, and anything mixed with gasoline, it appears that Jeff Smith is right.. additives cause corrosion. So if you're going to run C85, treat it like methanol with after run oil and not letting it sit, even overnight. My 65 GTO has been on E85/E100 since 2018, no issues and I pull the battery in October then put it back in the car in May. Its had Qjets and Holleys I convert, as well as FiTech EFI on its 11.5:1 iron headed 455 that makes around 550hp. Its been my tuning mule that I use to set up carbs for other engines. I like the frost and condensation on the outside of my 6-71 case while running my 505ci Pontiac in my 68 LeMans, that I get from running E85. My friends running pump gas have issues with the blower getting hot while driving, but I don't. As for consistency, the lighter parts of gasoline will evaporate off if you let it sit in a barrel for a while (a few months), it comes out to around E90 when I do that. So I will stick with the $2 pump stuff rather than paying $10 or more for the VP fuel. I ran VP red in the 1990s in one of my cars, never had a problem other than rubber hoses needing replaced every other year, and it ran pretty good. Also, since I can produce ethanol for about 40 cents a gallon, the cost of which is mostly cleaning supplies and yeast/enzymes, I just can't justify $10+ for fuel.