Does Wider HURT Performance?

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Does wider REALLY mean better every time?
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We've all heard the tire talk among car enthusiasts, what's the WIDEST tire I can fit on my car, or what's the widest tire I can fit on my wheel. More rubber on the road surely equals more grip right? We're going to discuss why that's not ALWAYS true on todays special tire episode of Myth Or Fact!
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0:00 Hype Intro
1:30 The Plug
2:19 Wider Tire Advantages
5:11 Wider Tire Disadvantages
7:44 Outro
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@FitmentIndustries 3 жыл бұрын

Does wider REALLY mean better every time? Build NOW and pay LATER with your tax return, from as low as 0% Financing! bit.ly/3j5phaa

@AR-qr9eo 3 жыл бұрын

Yeees

@maxwoods8231 3 жыл бұрын

Yep

@vel6979 3 жыл бұрын

Nope. I Have a skinnier the grips better then wider ones I had. Depends on the specs. All tires/brands are different so it varies.

@lastamericanhero59 3 жыл бұрын

Front wheel drive is for losers......just like 6 bangers.

@aestheticswim3397 3 жыл бұрын

no,shorter wheelbase means better steering,thats why Porsches are amazing race cars

@Shaftya_McNasty 3 жыл бұрын

Wider and thicker hips usually brings out extra performance in my wood tip.

@aestheticswim3397 3 жыл бұрын

you have won comment section gold

@KonaSTie 3 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 bruhhhhh

@twolikedanumba4272 3 жыл бұрын

Lmfaooooooooo

@SupraSav 3 жыл бұрын

. . s l o w clap . .

@Forgivefull 2 жыл бұрын

Nailed it

@zepic9093 3 жыл бұрын

We need a 'So you Want A Prius' for April fools day

@vizualmrs 3 жыл бұрын

Smart car**

@user-mi5og5nt7m 3 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣

@JosepinoRizal 3 жыл бұрын

I want a Prius to live in it

@chants2509 3 жыл бұрын

"So you want to widebody a prius"

@fishshit 2 жыл бұрын

i actually do tho smh efficient as hell or am i missing something?

@mrm1712 3 жыл бұрын

Went from 205/45/17 on 7" to 235/40/17 on 8" on stock NC Miata. Difference in grip/handling is huge. It's actually scary because it's much harder to tell the car's limits on fast turns (with the wider tires). On the 205's, the car was much quicker (i'd say 10% faster) and more nimble, easy to throw around. And I would be sliding the car at every signal/turn I made....that was fun. Now with the 235's, i can't slide/drift the car when turning anymore, it takes a lot more effort or i have to be going scary fast on the turn. Both tire sizes have their own performance/fun factors. With the 235's, feels like the car is on rails, I go on a roundabout at 60km/hr and the tires don't slip or lose grip at all. On the 205's, same roundabout, I could feel the tires fighting for grip at 45/50km/hr. If you like having grip and turning at fast speeds without losing grip, wider is the way to go.

@GGGmod1 Жыл бұрын

so your miata accelerated 10% slower with the 235s over the 205s?

@mrm1712 Жыл бұрын

@@GGGmod1 Maybe not 10% but it's noticeable enough that it's not like 1-2% either. I would say it's between 5-10%. Depends on calibration of your butt dyno too. Some people can't tell difference. I can tell difference in acceleration when my gas tank is empty vs. when it's full. Now my miata isn't stock anymore. I still have 235/40/17 on 8" but I am changing to 215/45/17 on 8". I don't have enough power to go to 9" and 245/40/17 but that grip would be so much fun. For the street, I think 225 or 215 on 8" wheels is plenty enough grip.

@GGGmod1 Жыл бұрын

@@mrm1712 so if your car does 0-100 in 10 seconds it could go up by 0.5-1 seconds just from the wheels then. I like grippy stuff but truth be told id rather have a fast line acceleration and if that means going down to 205 then i will

@mrm1712 Жыл бұрын

@@GGGmod1 not from wheels alone but tire weight and width too. Depends on which wheels and tires too (lightweight or not). More rubber touching road means more resistance. Hard to find perfect balance. Too skinny tires/traction can also cause problems Edit: note that I'm driving a very lightweight Miata. The difference won't be as noticeable on a bigger heavy car

@Blenzo480 4 ай бұрын

I went from 205/65r15, down to the stock size of 165R15 on my 74 TR6. The 205s were new Falkan Ziex ze960's made the steering heavy at low speed and when driving fast, it felt unpredictable at the limit. Maybe with suspension tuning this could be improved as the body roll is pretty bad with the stock spring rates and sway bar. The 165's are new Verdestein Sprint Classics. The car feels way more manageable and fun. The limit is slower and the break away is way more predictable and progressive. Plus, the the narrow tires on stock, zero offset steel rims just looks right on the car.

@christopherdutton8565 3 жыл бұрын

If I tire can't stand up on its own it's not wide enough

@ZJSProMedia 3 жыл бұрын

bro a 205 will stand up on its own. XD

@thattaffetafg2569 3 жыл бұрын

@@ZJSProMedia that really depends on wheel and offset if you’ve got crazy offset it’d probably tip over. I run a +57 on my rears they’re 265/40/19 and they fall over if I stand them up

@RolandKoller90 3 жыл бұрын

@@thattaffetafg2569 they taking an unmounted tire......

@angelgjr1999 3 жыл бұрын

I got 285s

@aksel487 3 жыл бұрын

@@ZJSProMedia my fucking 185 60 R14 stands on its own. cause i run Nankang NS2Rs on my Dayli

@DJWoopneck 3 жыл бұрын

Day one of asking "So you want a car"

@white_zeddy 3 жыл бұрын

I second this 🙋‍♂️🤣

@grantkendrick277 3 жыл бұрын

I am a fan

@kashvirshah3408 3 жыл бұрын

I am a fridge

@griplimit 3 жыл бұрын

Diminishing performance of the increased weight is always what’s talked about but never angular momentum... If you have two wheel and tire setups that are the exact same weight but one rim is a 15” and the other is a 18” which one do you think takes more power away? ...The 18” wheel does because more of it mass is further from its center of rotation.

@erickbertoperez862 2 жыл бұрын

but is the 15in setup the same circumference as the 18” ? you know how keeping the same size in that regard to keep the speedometer calibrated

@ShellShockerSporanox 2 жыл бұрын

@@erickbertoperez862 Ideally it should be the same circumference, but it'll have different weight distribution

@michaelrodgers6559 3 жыл бұрын

Usually the best way to go about things as far as performance on a stock-ish car is just to go with a stickier tire in the stock size. If you can find a bigger wheel and tire combo that weighs less than stock and then fit a stickier tire, bonus points.

@Enforcer_WJDE 3 жыл бұрын

Went from 175 on 13s to 215 on 16s on my 92 Golf 3 back in the day. It had 90PS and didn't really lose that much in fuel economy, most of it was my right foot anyway. It did gain a lot of grip in return and paired with a set of coilovers performance was way better. My brother in law actually loved to drive it since it was way quicker than his 850 wagon despite it having a bigger engine and over 40 more horses. Funny thing was i liked driving his car more xD

@fortunaredux9479 3 жыл бұрын

I don’t care if it hurts performance I wanna fill both lanes babyyy

@aktazf1192 3 жыл бұрын

You forgot that wider tires decrease wet traction and increase hydroplaning chances.

@Mr.Harris. 3 жыл бұрын

"does wider hurt performance?" Let me ask my wife......

@white_zeddy 3 жыл бұрын

This could go one of two ways...

@kevinkev1530 3 жыл бұрын

Perfect

@KotomiP 3 жыл бұрын

Dozens of highly skilled engineers are involved when developing and testing the car, including wheel and tire size. Generally it is set up at best value in combination of performance, fuel efficiency and cost with stock power level and suspension set up. If performance is the only thing you are looking for with stock power level, you are best off finding lightest forged aluminum wheels of same size, along with the best performing tire for your application (considering radials/r-compound/street max, wet/dry etc). If 'but that stance tho' is your thing, then priority of performance isn't as high on your list as you might think. Also wider tire creates more wind resistance, and more susceptible to hydroplaning.

@ArcoZakus 3 жыл бұрын

Kotomi P1999, "... best value in combination of performance, fuel efficiency and cost ..." depends on the relative priorities of all the factors you list, along with others like ride comfort, noise, etc. Those same "Dozens of highly skilled engineers" are likely to arrive at a different sized tire and wheel combination given the same list of considerations prioritized in a different sequence, as different car owners might do. If the marketing team for a certain car told the engineers to get the best fuel economy and most comfortable ride at the lowest cost possible, they would specify a different wheel size than if better performance (acceleration, braking, cornering) was higher on the list. For example, with the same 160 hp engine, a 2014 Ford Focus S (15"x6.5") vs. SE (16"x7") vs. SEL (17"x7") vs. Titanium Handling Package (18"x8"), all have different sized wheels and tires, probably chosen by the same engineers. Likewise, one owner might be happier sticking to the original size as you recommend, where another with different priorities would get "better" (for their priorities) results with a different size. I don't know how noticeable any difference in wind resistance is with wider tires (never gave that much thought), but I learned the scary way how right you are about hydroplaning, at least in a lightweight rear drive car (Porsche 914). That seemed to be less of a problem when I switched to front-heavy FWD cars (VW Scirocco, Acura Integra, etc.), but sometimes brief lapses of traction can still be felt without the total disappearance of steering control the RWD car had. And it only gets worse as the tread wears down.

@alexanderbleidorn605 3 жыл бұрын

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@wolf-eat-tiger 3 жыл бұрын

Lol literally just got new tires on a few minutes ago

@sypora2069 3 жыл бұрын

what size?

@globalcitizen8314 3 жыл бұрын

Mine are coming tomorrow, Continental extreme contact dws.

@wolf-eat-tiger 3 жыл бұрын

@@sypora2069 225/40/18 for my gt86. Any wider and this car loses what little fun factor it has

@burakoshimazaki 3 жыл бұрын

@@wolf-eat-tiger 245 and 275 staggered on mine. Completely disagree with losing any fun.

@lalo599 3 жыл бұрын

@@globalcitizen8314 have those...really good

@robertwest4299 3 жыл бұрын

As someone who is trying to build a fun momentum car with honestly pretty low HP and torque numbers, this video was amazingly helpful.

@christophergeis710 2 жыл бұрын

I always dig your videos, they're entertaining but to the point. Keep up the good work team FI!

@dovahkiin3216 3 жыл бұрын

Everyone loves a little thickness 😉

@NetherBoy13 3 жыл бұрын

A little cushion for the pushin

@stock.wheel.shawty 3 жыл бұрын

@@NetherBoy13 o shet

@richardcole1280 2 жыл бұрын

To include your mom

@nitro300 3 жыл бұрын

One of the best investment for my Q50 RS was putting Pilot Pro 4S 275s for extra grip in a staggered setup.

@formaniac2331 3 жыл бұрын

Love the amount of uploads guys

@powerslidestudios1471 3 жыл бұрын

The friggin wheel slap sound effect at the beginning. Right off the bat, I'm already giggling my arse off 😂

@alistairhughes2054 3 жыл бұрын

I've gone from 17s to 18s and an inch wider wheel running contisport contact 4s but same tyre width for a little stretch to make sure I don't rub, did loads of research before buying, the difference is amazing.... road glue!

@redkeyinuse4754 3 жыл бұрын

I bumped my Hellcat up to a 305. And it made a big difference in grip.

@islami658 3 жыл бұрын

If course because it’s a hellcat

@robwebster1098 3 жыл бұрын

I have a 14 charger rt, moved from 245/45 to 275/40 and made all the difference in the world

@bobbyholmes4586 3 жыл бұрын

Made it slower?? 😂. Jk bro sweet ride.

@fabian-isf5310 3 жыл бұрын

I went from 235s on my honda to 295

@angelgjr1999 3 жыл бұрын

@@fabian-isf5310 Surprised a Honda has enough torque to turn that wheel.

@The_Drive_Inside 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome video... just would like to add rolling resistance, they can actually slow you down if you have to big of tire in the front.

@GreenJeep1998 3 жыл бұрын

On my last 2 daily’s I went wider on the same aspect ratio and maintained ride, improved acceleration, braking, and handling, but lost gas mileage. Even less mileage at $4.50/gal on my XJ Cherokee, it was worth it.

@onuohafamily 2 жыл бұрын

Went from 225/40 uniroyals to 245/40 ps as 4 for meaty look, also the grip is insane. I don't spin the front wheels anymore when I wanna accelerate fast, obviously if I use 100% it will spin slightly but it's just much grippier. Also it feels more confident and tram like when going on and of ramps even in the wet.

@joeyloweredsportlifestyle6597 3 жыл бұрын

I’m running ds02 18x9.5 front 215/35/18and 19x10.5 225/35/18 +22 offset and I really enjoy that set up and looking really good

@sirloin4372 2 жыл бұрын

My cars top trim level wheel and tire was 235/45/17 on 17x7.5. I put 235/45/18 on it with a 18x8. It’s perfect! The car originally came with 225/60/16 on 16x7 wheel.

@artblackwood7936 2 жыл бұрын

I love wide wheels and tires but you do not get hardly any more grip. Tire compound makes way more of a difference. The area of the contact patch is created by the weight of the car. Getting wider tires with stiffer sidewalls and softer compounds seem like best way to go for performance.

@Thedjcodeman Жыл бұрын

THIS

@genericusernaization Жыл бұрын

Yesss thank you. A lot of oversimplification on this topic.

@PlatinumAgar 3 жыл бұрын

With fwd cars you shouldn't go wider than stock in most cases, because it just ruins the drivability of the car. A fwd car that has stock 225s is much better of with staying with 225s than going 235s if there is no significant increase in power. Talking from experience and bad driving memories xD

@sircefiro 2 жыл бұрын

Also depends what you're doing, a bit narrower may be easier to keep some heat in it or a bit wider if you need it cooler

@SkitzV 3 жыл бұрын

“So you want a vip Lexus?”

@pablorobles7050 3 жыл бұрын

I just slapped some 18x12 -33 TE37s with 305/35/18 R888Rs on my 350z and I’ve never felt so much grip in my life.

@WeAreChecking 3 жыл бұрын

It's also important to recognise even if your acceleration goes down with some thiccboiz if you rip it though the twisties even in a shitbox wider tires will make a world of difference.

@brokenfender9447 2 жыл бұрын

Got a 8th gen SI civic. I'm running 18x9.5 +35 255/35/18 and I love it. I need new koing hypergrams for the front because of a wreck.

@joshuawalker5044 3 жыл бұрын

Hahaha the stomach wheel slap was hilarious.

@ultra727 3 жыл бұрын

I have a 1.4L golf tuned for 170hp which isn't much but its super fun. I run 245/40R18 Michelin PS4's, I think I've struck the balance between looks and performance, any wider and it would be too much but at the same time it looks meaty 👌

@brokenbavariane9032 3 жыл бұрын

Went from 18x8 square setup with 225s all the way around the a 265/35 and 18x10.5 in the rear and 18x9 front with 235/40 and was literally a little sad when it was a touch slower however, the handling and road feel is a lot more pronounced. The ride got more harsh but you can feel every ridge and crack in the road which is really good for steering feel and handling so give and take. Also going from stock height to springs soon with an inch drop interested to see how that will work and if it will ride like absolute shit or just sit flush and handle more like a go kart than it already does. 06 BMW 330i.

@flinchy952 3 жыл бұрын

Straight line guys will want as narrow a tyre as they can without overheating - increasing width reduces length, and can reduce contact patch pending height/sidewall stiffness. For straight line acceleration you want as much length as possible vs lateral (cornering) grip wider is more betterer

@sweetj16real 2 жыл бұрын

A lil food for thought, I went from OEM 19" X 8.5" front 19" X 9" rear to 19" X 9.5" front 19" X 10.5 rear with Michelin Pilot Sports on my stock g37s Coupe 6mt. Each wheel weighs about 4lbs less than my OEM set. I've noticed improvements in grip, acceleration, handling & gas mileage.

@Midnightvq 7 ай бұрын

Get a 370z way better

@sweetj16real 7 ай бұрын

@@Midnightvq If the 370z had 4 seats, I would've.

@neilduncan8657 3 жыл бұрын

Also in the case of snow (1 to 4 inches) or so on the road, a skinny tire is better. More PSI on the contact patch of the road. Wide tires don't work as well in snow. Wider tires on a light car can decrease the speed needed to hydroplane. I use a dedicated snow tire (skinny with plenty of sidewall) in the winter.

@puppetmaster413 3 жыл бұрын

Guys also reading the comments you also have to remember when upgrading your car make sure that if you are gonna be going for more power it would behoove you to get bigger wheels and tires first so that way after you drop a massive snaily boi under the hood you can still have the grip necessary to make sure you don't mustang into a crowd of people at the car meet. Also if you're trying for a hotboi look wide wheels always look good.

@TyGotch 3 жыл бұрын

I'm buying a 2012 honda civic si, wanted some opinions. Should I get a bit wider rim and tire set up to get the look i want or should I just go with spacers.

@FlixRacing 3 жыл бұрын

“Cause race car bro”

@ethanray7342 3 жыл бұрын

i threw some 295 35 20 bridgestone potenza re070r tires on my stock wheels and oh boi let me tell you grippy is an understatement i could not break traction even in the rain and on the tail of the dragon they let me an almost stock base model challenger absolutely leave a bolt on tuned gti in the dust i was parked for a good 2 minutes before he got to the bottom so granted i also have bc coilovers but just the tires alone changed the whole cornering feel of the car

@raynchamba15 3 жыл бұрын

Dont forget wider setups need bigger or stronger links, tie rods, tougher bushings, etc cause of all the extra forces. I daily a Starlet GT ep82 with a 1" wider than body stance and the alignment keeps going off due to super hard shocks and stock front end setup.

@Monster33336 3 жыл бұрын

What should you replace after getting wider tires?

@raynchamba15 3 жыл бұрын

@@Monster33336, personally after getting a wider tire/rim setup, the next step i would proceed with is suspension tuning 😀 Looking for the best ride height, alignment, spring rates/ stiffness (Rebound & Travel) for your car('s) application 👍 I do apologize for the late response. This is just my opinon, my approach maybe right or wrong, best to cross reference through forums and experts 🙏

@TheV8Pumpkin 3 жыл бұрын

I have all season random 215s on all 4 corners and I CAN'T WAIT to finally put on my summer Nitto g2 race tires on :)))

@SMCutCake 3 жыл бұрын

I have a ~800hp 1000NM Gt63s and the stock 19 295 back ps4s is not gripping on track even in the straights I have a set of 305 cup2 in shop when spring roll around, should I upgrade for a bigger wheel to put on an even bigger tire?

@Sentient6ix 3 жыл бұрын

I'm thinking of running 8 inch wheels for my summer set on this '16 BRZ I just picked up. It's a long term daily, so I won't be putting much power to it other than the basics like an Open Flash tuner, headers, exhaust, and run the updated intake manifold.

@readit945 2 жыл бұрын

Hello, great video, educational and funny, what happened to the old steel wheels, what better for performance steels or alloys,

@rogertoledo478 2 жыл бұрын

Fitment, my stock is 225/45 18 with 26” diameter, if I jump to 255/35 19 with same 26” diameter, will it effect my excelleration?? 18 to 19” rims change as well

@lovelytanty 3 жыл бұрын

I want to put wider wheels and tires ( maybe 12 in. )on the rear of my 2000 Lincoln LS and not have them sticking out on the sides. Can I do this without to much inner body modification?

@chrissiemens 2 жыл бұрын

Have a honda cr-v, stock width is 235, was wanting to put maybe 255’s on? bad idea or worth it?

@mai4397 3 жыл бұрын

What are peoples opinion on tyre poke from the arches? Like tiny poke from sidewalls tho like an inch or less..

@12vLife 3 жыл бұрын

I need to run wider tires for soft sand... is it safe to run 245/50 (9.5 wide) on a 6.5 " wide steel rim? I did for over 5 years previously and want to do it again on a van. The recommendation is 7" wide steel min.

@lolsurprises9989 3 жыл бұрын

I have an NA Miata. Of course I dumped the 185 pie cutters and put on some 205x16's and lowered it. Gave it a different look, for sure. Then the engine died and I ...... LS SWAPPED IT! Then, all of a sudden, the 205's were woefully inadequate. I want to remain mostly stock looking but yet get most of the 300 hp to the ground, so I put some stickier and wider 225/45zr15 Hankook Rs4's on some xxr527's. First gear is still the smoky gear as 350 lb/ft of torque, the T56's gearing and the CTS limited slip diff I put in ensures BOTH tires light up with embarrassing ease. Second gear is similar and can smoke 'em by dumping the clutch at 4000 rpm. I have fenders rolled all the way around, but if I wanted to go wider, I would likely have to permanently alter the body and put flares on it and as stated, I want the exterior stealthy and as stock looking as reasonable. I may be incorrect, regardless, I have removed the power steering and as it drives now, I don't have any problem steering at low speeds as I don't turn from a dead stop. Wider tires can make low speed turning an activity that will give ya Popeye arms, LOL! The feel of wider tires and the manual use of a depowered rack is confidence inspiring at higher speeds, for sure!

@kevinamundsen6983 7 ай бұрын

This vid just made my decision for me. Thank you 😁

@brvfam8955 3 жыл бұрын

I bought a 20x11 wheels for my honda accord 2020 2.0 sports, us that too much?? Thanks

@djcande86 2 жыл бұрын

It does, I made the mistake to put 275/45/20 on my 4cylinder turbo Camaro and that just added more ego to the turbo lack of it😓😅

@Up2g69 3 жыл бұрын

I went from 175/60/14 to 225/45/17 the day after I got my car 😅😂

@adibz959 3 жыл бұрын

If you use wheel that have lower offset, but still using the stock tyre width, does it increases the performance and improve cornering?

@maxl7827 11 ай бұрын

maybe 1%

@jamrock24goku23 3 жыл бұрын

Thank youuuu for teaching these kids

@mosesmutale8278 2 жыл бұрын

Can I put 235/75r15 on a car that is recommended to use 205/70r15?

@chad6876 3 жыл бұрын

I just went one step up too. 1" bigger wheelsl and went from 215 to 225 tires

@273.45amg 3 жыл бұрын

New video on my birthday, thank you.

@gnrtx-36969 10 ай бұрын

Happy bday after two years😳

@raiderjohn9407 3 жыл бұрын

So I have a stock drivetrain 12v mk4 vr6 gti... 17x8.5 inch wheels on Velozza ZXV4 205/45Z tires, I have the stock 180 hp and tq, I still roast the tires anytime I launch, and I dont even rev up for launch. I'm thinking I need to get 225 tires

@pj_morrison 3 жыл бұрын

When you’re too wide, she complains and wants you to slow down🥺😭

@lolsurprises9989 3 жыл бұрын

Something you have never heard.

@0hjaa3.06 3 жыл бұрын

My cars tyres already went from 175 to 185 before i bought it🤔 But I'm going to buy 195 wide tyres for that extra grip 😈🔥

@biteshten 2 жыл бұрын

I'm looking to go from a 8 all around to a 8.5 and 9.5 on a 170hp car... is that wise ?

@ElementTijuana 3 жыл бұрын

Can you fit. 245 wide tire on a 6.5 inch rim?

@muhammadalishad1691 3 жыл бұрын

My current size on Toyota parado is 265 65 17 . I plan to put 275 65 17 on it just for looks is it advisable. It's a 4x4

@eduardosoto6259 3 жыл бұрын

Next should be "so you want a 2nd gen Lexus is350"

@ilyas5708 3 жыл бұрын

Buy it

@HP_Games 3 жыл бұрын

Can you pls do a video on whether smaller or bigger rim diameter is better.

@s650dom Жыл бұрын

i’m throwing some wheels and tires on my civic from fitment industries i’m going from 18x8 by 235s to 18x9.5 by 255s hopefully going to turn out okay

@rustyshaklferd1897 Жыл бұрын

355x 16”’hooked and booked on my 87 gn. 245s on my r/t charger stock just spins.

@vanquish421 3 жыл бұрын

Also: fender rolling (if needed) and tramlining.

@Vitralify 2 жыл бұрын

I got the Camaro LT1 which is a V8 but comes stock with 245's squared setup. Very little grip in every gear but fourth. Debating between a staggered 305 rear: 285 front. or 295 all around. Which one do you think will work the best? Mostly a daily driver that I want to be able to launch from and take back road corners faster on

@FitmentIndustries 2 жыл бұрын

If ya want more grip, 305's for sure. Use to run a staggered setup on my old E46 and she held on well! If anything take a look at our gallery and see what others are running for daily running! 💪 heres a link. -Edgar www.fitmentindustries.com/wheel-offset-gallery

@rc7fiddy 3 жыл бұрын

Wider looks better 🤷‍♂️

@mathiascilia9990 2 жыл бұрын

6:57 bro you got me laughing so much with that reaction to fuel economy 🤣🤣🤣

@prodanesti 3 жыл бұрын

hi, guys! what's happening with Racing Hart? are they from Japan? can you make a video about them? also, can you find new CP-F Tune R? all i know is these are an old model. thanks.

@DarrinSmith1 2 жыл бұрын

Hmmm...well, a blanket statement of going bigger means more weight just isn't always true. A case in point, I went from a stock 225/55R19 on a 7" wide rim to a 245/45R20 on an 8.5" wide rim and LOST 12 lbs! Also, when you mention "performance" you tend to leave out handling and focus only on straight line acceleration. Going to a wider tire, all other things being equal, normally improves lateral acceleration in the dry.

@afterrecession Ай бұрын

what's the link of the video by jalopnik u were referring to?

@samizzle99 3 жыл бұрын

Fuel efficiency? What the heck is that? Never heard of it.

@captainculpeper1250 2 ай бұрын

NOW it's called $5 a gallon for gas....

@davidgriggs3967 Жыл бұрын

Went from 14" 60 175's povo brand tyre's to 17 " 45 225's Bridgestone potenza adrenalin re003's. Fwd Mitsubishi 4g63t hatch back 2100lbs 330bhp Night and day difference as expected , went from tyre frying all the way to 90mph to 0 wheel spin and crazy acceleration.

@KirbysFather Жыл бұрын

How did it affect the ride, like going over potholes?

@davidgriggs3967 Жыл бұрын

@KirbysDad Our roads are pretty good , the bumps in the road's are rougher than a normal car that's because I have set up my suspension really stiff in the rear to keep the ass end from squating on launches and hard accelerations and keep the weight over the front tyres where it's needed. I do have boost by gear just for 1st gear but that is still making 260whp and 390nm of torque . Potenza re003's work well at street temperature and that is what they were designed for , you here guy's complaining all the time that they crap on the track and yes they are that's because they are designed for street use with a little bit of fun in some tight curves every once and while.

@SMILEYRLR 2 жыл бұрын

Does it matter if they'er only riding on the corner of the wheels?

@spencerschloth9682 3 жыл бұрын

I put 9 inch wheels on my gti and if I'm on a uneven road it grips the road and pulls in whatever direction it wants lol

@AR-qr9eo 3 жыл бұрын

Great vids

@JETZcorp 10 ай бұрын

My take is, step up the compound first, then consider width if you still need more grip OR you're facing tire heat issues. Narrower tites are lighter and less picky about suspension geometry. A Porsche 914 handles amazing on skinnies, but wide tires reveal that the geometry isn't perfect. If your car is on struts, chances are it'll perform better over a wider range of conditions on OE width tires. If you want to run fatties on a big-camber track alignment, you will take a hit on braking and wet performance in exchange for that turn-in. Narrow tires put more pressure on the contact patch, keeping it square on the road.

@SupraSav 3 жыл бұрын

If you can't break tire, from a dig, you DEFINITELY don't need a wider tire. A wider tire will improve handling, at the cost of high speed stability. The unsprung/rotating weight is a huge factor, especially in lower powered cars. And you are putting more stress on your steering components and suspension. What I was really hoping to hear about, was whether or not reducing rotating/unsprung weight would require different suspension? I am switching from my OEM 19 BMW wheels to BBS RGR's; a weight saving of 7-8 lbs/wheel.

@bladetheman 3 жыл бұрын

i got 285 on my stock 240z do i need wider? :O :P

@817Moon Жыл бұрын

I’m runnin 245 40 r17. 17x9s on my 2nd Gen Veloster. Feels waaay different & people said I couldn’t do it

@D3AThCAl2DS 3 жыл бұрын

Yes but you gotta do your alignment make sure your not too wide for the wheel

@Dnasty1 2 жыл бұрын

Bro you are the tire guy can you let me know if going up aspect ratio can damage the cars transmission? I am going up from 275/30/19 to 265/35/19 is this a big enough difference to matter?

@ben.scanlan 2 жыл бұрын

No in fact a modern transmission should even recalculate the odometer for you

@thurmanmerman9099 2 жыл бұрын

i just fitted 265 30 19's all around my bmw E91 it looks awesome

@FitmentIndustries 2 жыл бұрын

Add it up to the gallery and show us homie! 🙌🏽 -Edgar www.fitmentindustries.com/add-wheel-offset

@scgt35 10 ай бұрын

Thank you for addressing a crucial issue. For the same type of narrow and wide tires (same brand) there is hardly any contact patch increase or decrease, so announcing wider ones have more grip due to larger contact patch is a myth. The difference is the shape of the each tire's contact patch. While narrow one would be more like square, the wider one would be like a rectangular (elongated to the sides). The question is what are these people referring to the improved grip level when they switch to wider tires? I guess it's a misconception and overall lack of testing knowledge to judge situations. In Technik, if you gain something, generally you loose something else, it's a tradeoff.. For an example, by wider tires car gains more cornering capability but loses at braking and launching performance in return.

@gaigevanausdal9694 3 жыл бұрын

I love these videos

@jjukjkjiok7782 3 жыл бұрын

Unsprung weight hurts handling, rotational mass hurts acceleration mainly. All unsprung weight is not rotating necessarily, so the non rotating parts have the same impact on acceleration as weight resting on the suspension.

@Blenzo480 4 ай бұрын

@ben.scanlan 2 жыл бұрын

Stock rims Ecoboost R18 235/50 to R18 255/45 Y was the best upgrade I’ve done. The car handles better. Rides lower.

@EZ_EZzzz 3 жыл бұрын

But is Wider better for a Comfortable ride, for like example a Lexury Daily driver ? I’m planning on getting some 19x9.5 all around for my AWD Lexus. Right now has 18x8.5 and I want a better ride. If I can accomplish it of course.

@ericb1054 3 жыл бұрын

I can tell you I ran 19x9/19x10 on my y34 M45 daily driver. The ride was definitely a little rougher over stock wheels & tires due to tire profile. Fronts were not stretched and rears were slightly with a 255 width tire (Toyo Proxes) . Also more width made the car tramline whenever I encountered a pronounced crown in the middle of the road or freeway. Beware of the hydro planing factor like some folks mentioned. It’s definitely happens and feels amplified. Lastly wider wheels suck in snow if your daily driving. Typically I would change to my stockers since we get light snow here in winter but I was caught with the wide wheels on once and they car was slightly sketchy in light snow. You’re AWD so you might not need to worry about that. Wasn’t too bad overall and the car was pretty low on static suspension. Daily drove it for about 4 1/2 years like that.