I hate miniwargaming lol.

Looking forward to your next box review.

I see you’re making the rounds Brent ;)

@@miniwargaming - Brent is always working hard, grinding away and keeping tabs on the competition... I'm mean the community. This is a joke. We all know that most of our various hobby/gaming creators watch, interact and collaborate with each other for the benefit of themselves, an more importantly the community and the hobby/games we love.

“Hell is a real place, and TM is a real speed demon in it” 😉.

He has no kitty to review the box.

I have core rules and battletomes for AoS 2nd and have never played either. I got maybe 20 games of 40k in total before the pandemic and the edition change. As a result, I’m done buying books from GW unless I have an army ready to play said game, and the time to dedicate to it. The edition churn is too much to keep up with.

@@tinyfishhobby3138 we are out for similar reasons.

You're not wrong. Fortunately books don't go out of date and can still be played 20 years from now. Which is about the same time it takes me to finish an army lol 🤷🏼‍♂️ Always good to see rules improving tho.

They would look good as LOTR orcs but seem to miss the satire on British football hooligans and their culture. Its their personality and humour is what makes orks fun to play.

That’s because they’re not orcs, but hobgoblins (hobgrots)

@@OnnoMaat only the the ones with the two knives. All the others are orrukz but ones that have grown in the swamp lands.

And you know, global pandemic! GW's pushing along as if nothing has changed in the world has *really* turned me off continuing to buy their products.

I'm so tired of constantly changing books and manuals that in 40k we went back to the excellent 3rd edition with friends and in fantasy we play Warmaster Revolution (printed models are beautiful) and 6th edition WFB. No FAQ, no worrying about how long the book will last or how useless the models from the collection will become.

@@AirsoftAddicted I would be all for that, but everyone around here is addicted to having the "new shiny". They are clever enough to include enough enticing new models for every faction go get people to go along with their ratrace.

The frustrating thing is that, as soon as everyone gets a codex/battletome for the current edition, they release a big new edition and the churn starts all over again.

@@joemagill4041 it's brutal.

These won't include the characters, which GW will release separately in 8 months are 1000% markup, like Royal Court and Honored of the Chapter.

Let's hope they have Dominion "Made to Order"

@@BUSSTISEBOOST Indomitus isn't, so I'd suspect that Dominion won't be either.

@@darkowl9 there was a made-to-order wave of indomitus.

I'm aiming for the "Elite/Commander" equivalent kit. No more FOMO launch box frenzy, sorry GW, I'm too old for that game.

Stole my idea. From my mind

He said chonky, but that's worth noting anyway.

Chonki Mon-ki

I’m reading the Necromunda Rulebook and House of Blades as we speak. His criticism is completely spot on.

Yea I gave up on Necromunda. To many books and tables to look back and forth through

Oh, but the rules in it are also confusing, overpriced and spread across too many books, so the lack of contrast with the background fits that.

@@logansaxby7224 Try Stargrave

Not so much, because the LotR models are a totally different scale.

Converzion into orkz culd be an idea

@Patrick Swan Even just giving them Gina on their bakz would work kuz der ded kunnin

It also helps seeing them from different angles. I dunno why, but GW's product pics often seem to choose the ugliest possible angles for models.

I thought the Sacrosanct SC were *perfect*.

They won’t. The old orks are representations of mork while the kruleboiz are the first orks to represent gork which is the reason for the different look

I you can find players willing to give non-GW games a go, the hobby gets even cheaper 😉

Some kids love painting minis to.

@@PheonixKnght My 9 year old is so excited. My 3 year old is gonna have a field day so I'll have to get some extra figures that she can just go to town on.

@@minaya runewars is INSAINLY cheap right now with great models they might like that.

Or a Female Sanguinius 😏

@@euansmith3699 No.

uruk-hai but you got the spirit

My LGS said $200 for the box. YMMV on value there.

That bar is low enough to trip over, so it shouldn't be an issue. 😂

I doubt they do haha

@@JamesSerapio it's funny cause it's true. Also sad.

There was no such release. Never existed. There was something that looks and sounds like cursed city but that was an eBay exclusive..

@@grantfoster8833 bahaha "ebay exclusive" haha worse than Kickstarter Exclusive. Costs the same for only one box

Yeah this box went down to 99 euro at a local webshop here in The Netherlands. Im really tempted because it just seems an outragous deal for 60 models and a 360 page hardcover book. Its just that I really dont have any connection with the Age of Sigmar stuff. I mean, I actually really thinking if I would bother to assemble and paint these, even if I got them for free. I just dont feel that itch to get into AoS for some reason. The orks look kinda cool, but these Stormcast guys seem terribly generic. All the lore seems so forced, artificial and convoluted. Just way too far from the all the "High Fantasy" principles to a point its just all a bit meaningless. I just wish we had old Warhammer Fantasy back I know and love from my youth, and these were just regular orcs and empire armies or something, with updated visuals and rules, then I would have bought it in a heartbeat.

@@ageoflove1980 I'm not into AOS either but figured at least I'd have 2 basic armys to toy around with playing. Dont plan to expand the collection. I managed to get them all assembled and ready for primer, but put my main focus on my BA army which has tripled in size since I made this post. I have over 7,500 points of BA to still finish painting before I even care to finish this box.

@@Big_Mike001 I recommend doing so from your local store, gw is unreliable with pre-orders of limited stuff

It's absolutely insane!

Just like royal court and honoured of the chapter. I.e. 8 months later, and 1000% mark-up.

WAY too big! LOTR is proper 28mm, AoS is closer to 40mm now!

Some lore snippet I read talked about the hobgrot mysterious masters or something..... there was a Chaos dwarf in warcry.... I definitely hope for chaos dwarves in the near future.

Chaos dwarves have ties with these hobgrots. There is a very good chance of them arriving somewhere in 3rd edition.

@@mycatistypingthis5450 yeah that is my point, I am aware of the Lore, used to collect old hammer as a kid. I also have the war cry set with the Chaos dwarf in, but he is not at all in the traditional style, like the Orc Boss in this is,

Other way round mate, the current orruks are the ones who follow Gork and these new ones are the ones who follow Mork

I agree that the old models should not be scrapped as I prefer their look VASTLY over these ratfink not-orks. They look like they belong in the Lord of the rings game

Its now October and this can still be bought from GW and most shops. Limited edition doesnt sell out these days, takes months.

@@stephenbradley3153 yes I've seen them. I don't know about that though, plenty of other limited sets have sold quickly.

A month later and I just picked one up for almost half price at my local game store. There is a whole pile of them in the discount bin. It's a shame really, they over ordered to a crazy degree

Definitely with their "masters"; the Chaos Dwarfs.

Yeah, I'd be happy to see Chaos Dwarfs, though I'd also be happy to have an all Hobgrot force.

Exactly what I was thinking. It was a business decision.

I don't think so. They make their new stuff at 32mm bases which is near unusable on a 25mm grid (doesn't seem right on large creatures, doesn't fit a 25mm square). They also don't want an influx of other vendors, and usually sculpt their stuff to not match that. They do fit the aesthetics of the mid to late '80's orcs very well though.

I kinda get the vibe too, this looks like it would have been more at home in their LoTR game...I'm not sure I want a less cartoony (aka more 'serious' looking) fantasy war game.

@@jcorey2005 ah yes, "pot-grot" and " stab-grot" the epitome of seriousness

@@jcorey2005 maybe it's not about being more serious, but reflecting that they're more cunning than brutal.

Just wait for the individual minis I guess, I refuse to buy from scalpers. If everyone else did the same, they'd drop the prices to MSRP super fuckin fast as they start losing money and keep buying all this expensive stuff that isn't moving... So they'd decide in a couple weeks to just recoop the costs. It's simple. People only scalp because people buy from scalpers

That said... You're dead fucking right hahaha

Tell ya a secret, indominus never sold out. GW paid a magazine to say it might have, then laughed at the FOMO buying. Every local game store in my area (8 within 45 minutes) had it in stock when everyone was waiting for the "special order"

An as old WHFB player thinking about AOS, If that happens, I'll try again when 4th edition comes out.

A guy purchased all 15 copies of indomitus that my lgs ordered, 15! His credit card got declined on the day I got my friends to try warhammer and the owner let us have one of them.

Same here. This is why I am really looking forward to old world bretonnians