Doom II - MAP24: The Chasm (Nightmare! 100% Secrets + Items)

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decino

decino

Жыл бұрын

Game: Doom II
Difficulty: Nightmare!
Source port: DSDA-Doom 0.25.6 (-complevel 2)
Pistol start.
All secrets and items.
No saves.
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Link to source port:
www.doomworld.com/forum/topic...
Widescreen status bars:
forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php...
Doom II Minor Sprite Fixing Project:
www.doomworld.com/idgames/gra...

Пікірлер: 311
@404BYTE
@404BYTE Жыл бұрын
Sandy Petersen's Magnum Opus
@clearspira
@clearspira Жыл бұрын
Karl Jobst has a great video regarding the history of speedrunning this level. Its very interesting to see the evolution from ''doing the level properly'' to ''skipping almost the entire thing.''
@1pcfred
@1pcfred Жыл бұрын
That wall glide is epic.
@windsaw151
@windsaw151 Жыл бұрын
It's been so long since I played the game myself that I almost only remember Karl Jobst's video about that level. Now I am surprised how large it really is.
@Ayuima69
@Ayuima69 Жыл бұрын
Wrong even the first video skips the blue key
@demogorgonzola
@demogorgonzola Жыл бұрын
gotta love those ledges! :)
@nathanlamont9920
@nathanlamont9920 Жыл бұрын
I tend to watch that video every 2 to 3 months. That is how interesting it is.
@Izayuukan
@Izayuukan Жыл бұрын
I never realized how peaceful The Chasm is. Large sections where you don't have to worry about enemies and can focus on exploration. Kind of a unique vibe
@fbr_studios
@fbr_studios Жыл бұрын
The music makes it more calm as well
@Wr41thgu4rd
@Wr41thgu4rd Жыл бұрын
Feels out of place imo, ideas are always fair game for criticism and this idea sucks. Poor execution on the gimmick.
@CabezasDePescado
@CabezasDePescado Жыл бұрын
I know nowadays is all about the combat but i think exploration is often overlooked and underrated in classic Doom. As a kid i loved to just go through the level after killing all enemies, searching for secrets and taking in the scenery along with the awesome music, it was like getting lost in another world
@chezzington918
@chezzington918 Жыл бұрын
@@Wr41thgu4rd If you play the map with the Doom2metal midi pack you'll hear the doom ending theme with the text play instead of the original song.
@toooydoeur
@toooydoeur Жыл бұрын
​@@Wr41thgu4rd nah its good
@PeterLawrenceYT
@PeterLawrenceYT Жыл бұрын
Very surprisingly peaceful this map, even on nightmare.
@DesArthes
@DesArthes Жыл бұрын
I think Sandy is underrated author. Thanks to his experimenting with map (like this, barrels or tricks and traps) we got some gimmicky and distinguishable maps. You dont need love all of his maps, but without him the OG Doom II would look more like TNT: Evilution, where more than half of levels are just boring mess unrecognizible from each other. And btw. This map offer much more than the infamous ledges. Thanks for refreshing memory with this 100% item run.
@tornado100able
@tornado100able Жыл бұрын
That's the reason i don't like TNT, levels are indeed hard to distinguish, too much tech bases and large empty rooms. They really feel monotonic and also the OST definitelly is not as good as in the previous Doom I/II. Only interesting level is that egyptian one, which ironically has a missing yellow key...
@GeminionRay
@GeminionRay Жыл бұрын
@@tornado100able Yeah, I also find TNT the most forgettable out of all the classic Doom games. I played it not too long ago and yet I still remember only a few sections (Thankfully Plutonia was much more fun to play despite the difficulty). As much as I love to hate all the ledge walking in Chasm, it's still a memorable map to me. And to be fair that was bound to happen when they made Peterson create more than half of Doom 2's levels in a relatively short time.
@IrukaSaaan
@IrukaSaaan Жыл бұрын
​@@tornado100able Into The Beast's Belly clears anything on DooM 2
@fearless1000
@fearless1000 Жыл бұрын
One of my favourite Doom 2 maps, so much exploration. It sticks out as being a very memorable level compared to those around it.
@ChilledfishStick
@ChilledfishStick Жыл бұрын
Strange, I thought I was the only one. I only hear bad things about this map.
@grglyzen
@grglyzen Жыл бұрын
@@ChilledfishStick I think it's mostly hated by speed runners
@quiver5756
@quiver5756 Жыл бұрын
@@grglyzen Lol ironically I've seen many speedrunners praising this map more than the casual players, precisely because is a unique a particular challenge to complete compared to other maps.
@CabezasDePescado
@CabezasDePescado Жыл бұрын
I like it, overall i enjoy Doom 2 a lot, specially at the time it was great. Both Doom and Hell on Earth may not been absolutely perfect regarding some levels but i love them as a whole and in context they were awesome at the time (not saykng that they are not now i am in love with both of them since i was a k8d)
@riffbw
@riffbw Жыл бұрын
@@ChilledfishStick nobody likes ledge walking in older games as it feels like cheap difficulty, but outside of the narrow ledges this map is gorgeous and offers a lot more than most of the later Doom 2 maps. The exploration is relatively safe and the fights can be very difficult.
@rumplespliffskin
@rumplespliffskin Жыл бұрын
Before I forget, I want to thank you for this series. I could never get this far as a kid and would always end up level skipping. It's been great playing through this with you and 100%ing it on Hurt Me Plenty.
@__The_Real_V__
@__The_Real_V__ Жыл бұрын
I'm so used to seeing this map done in around 30 seconds or so, I've forgotten there was so much more to the level
@AlexeiVoronin
@AlexeiVoronin Жыл бұрын
People always fixate on the infamous thin ledges, but there is more to the Chasm than this. I've always liked the concept of a vast hi-tech factory hidden in the depths of Hell. I even imagined that this was the place where Cyberdemons and Arachnotrons were first built. P.S. No outtakes? I feel cheated :P
@THEGRUMPTRUCK
@THEGRUMPTRUCK Жыл бұрын
B-But those thin ledges.... They don't have anything to eat down here..... Think of the poor ledges.
@doomerrasa8475
@doomerrasa8475 Жыл бұрын
I think it's an ok map but like a lot of maps in doom 2 it has this problem where like 70% of the map is basically pointless and your first experience with it is trying to guess which part of the map isn't pointless
@AlexeiVoronin
@AlexeiVoronin Жыл бұрын
​@@doomerrasa8475 Well yeah, that's what exploration is all about. Sometimes you find rewards, but sometimes you don't - it's one of the oldest principles in gaming ;)
@MrCantStopTheRobot
@MrCantStopTheRobot Жыл бұрын
Could be the digestive organ of the Icon of Sin
@mina86
@mina86 Жыл бұрын
Thin ledges is what makes people dislike this level which is why people fixate on them. I don't think they are an interesting gimmick. At the very least not interesting in original Doom engine. I also dislike the use of damaging floors since they discourage exploration.
@asad5986
@asad5986 Жыл бұрын
I think the last room is the reason the chasm gets most of the hate. Without that last room, it wouldn't be hated as much.
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 8 ай бұрын
Just like Mass Effect 3.
@scottl.1568
@scottl.1568 Жыл бұрын
We are watching a hero's journey here... It's fascinating to go back and rewatch his past "explainer" video and see how Cino applies all that knowledge and research in this nightmare run...
@kingbaby8761
@kingbaby8761 Жыл бұрын
I always liked this map, un-ironically. I also think Sandy boy is a unsung genius.
@Nob1ej0n
@Nob1ej0n Жыл бұрын
6:27 I never noticed how reminiscent this section is to the first DOOM either. You're right about that. Also, that was a fun route. I appreciate that you never grabbed the blue key and still got 100% everything.
@fellow_doomer
@fellow_doomer Жыл бұрын
i loved watching speedruns of this map!
@AlexeiVoronin
@AlexeiVoronin Жыл бұрын
Remember, the trick is to love the thin ledges... and then they love you back by preventing you from falling ;)
@fellow_doomer
@fellow_doomer Жыл бұрын
@@AlexeiVoronin and then came the ledges exes. cacodemons
@georgeheilman885
@georgeheilman885 Жыл бұрын
This one feels like a chaotic breather after Barrels o' Fun. Plus the platform raising tricks are nice to exploit. It's also a map that makes you happy that Lost Souls don't regenerate.
@DuckReconMajor
@DuckReconMajor Жыл бұрын
I agree! Love the Chasm. I looked away right before your little joke at the end, my heart nearly stopped lol
@bastiaan8096
@bastiaan8096 Жыл бұрын
As a kid I used to play this map over and over again, it really was my favourite. Mostly because it looks quite different from most other maps I guess. Seeing later how much hate the map gets, it really surprised me to be honest. Although I must admit that I never really beat this map on nightmare back in the day. Looks nice though.
@EnemyAce88
@EnemyAce88 Жыл бұрын
This is probably one of the most unique and creative levels in the game. Always one of my favorites. And another one where the music just sets the perfect tone.
@ysablkk
@ysablkk Жыл бұрын
Nice God bless ❤❤
@lukebehrendsbro.
@lukebehrendsbro. Жыл бұрын
And here we have everyones favorite map of them all! 🤪I bet that final area created a bridge that has a big middle finger for you all to see here! 😜What a map I say! Excellent work here deino! 👏
@DrAce46
@DrAce46 Жыл бұрын
Wow you nailed it mate! My favourite series on KZfaq, I haven't missed an episode :D Thanks Decino
@MrUnl33t
@MrUnl33t Жыл бұрын
This is a very fun map to watch a nightmare playthrough of. Some Doom 2 maps are over before you finished unpacking your snack, but not this one. It is long, it is unusual with bunch of cool areas and secrets. It has combat, it has exploration, it has visuals. Great video!
@chezzington918
@chezzington918 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the daily uploads Decino. You the best.
@rankoinazuma6788
@rankoinazuma6788 Жыл бұрын
2:16 oooh, neat trick 3:05 now watch and learn, here's the deal! 3:06 he'll slip and slide on this [B A N A N A P E E L!] 6:32 Yep, I agree
@Ayuima69
@Ayuima69 Жыл бұрын
8:07 goodbye fireball
@konchady1
@konchady1 Жыл бұрын
Excellent NMrun on Chasm. This level showcased one of Doom's features. Floors that have a tiny size but still work. I'd like to think that Doom 2 was basically a exposition on what kind of levels can be designed. Concepts of thin flooring allow for "ladders", tightropes, etc.
@matheusrios4223
@matheusrios4223 Жыл бұрын
congratz on doing it and not falling to your death. I though you would end up being overwhelmed in the pinky room but alas, decino learned his lesson to not underestimate pinkies in barrels o' fun :D
@improversgaming
@improversgaming Жыл бұрын
Great run! Love it or hate it such an iconic map! Have personally always enjoyed it. Thanks.
@vendeten
@vendeten Жыл бұрын
literally EVERY single time my dinner gets ready new decino upload, amazin
@summersmashhit9177
@summersmashhit9177 Жыл бұрын
Might have something to do with how he uploads the same time every day.
@vendeten
@vendeten Жыл бұрын
@@summersmashhit9177 yea, i know but just, its an amazing treat yknow?
@zachrywd
@zachrywd Жыл бұрын
9:37 Not gonna lie, I was rooting for the meatball in that duel. Was my favorite bit in this run.
@iguana9173
@iguana9173 Жыл бұрын
1:58 I didn’t know you could do that. 10:50 very funny. 😂
@santiagopaz8627
@santiagopaz8627 Жыл бұрын
Oh boy, oh boy, it's the chasm!
@dkfrumwithin
@dkfrumwithin Жыл бұрын
Been awhile since I’ve seen this level played (mostly) fully and it’s really pretty cool. Also your pretend jump in the toxic goo at the end made me jump. Didn’t know that floor raised!
@Karokzak
@Karokzak Жыл бұрын
It's my very first time I ever see this whole map. I only this one by Speedrun and only see for what a few minutes. I didn't know this map was bigger than that. Glad to see this map has more to shown than in speedrun.
@A_Lazy_Mutt
@A_Lazy_Mutt Жыл бұрын
I'd say that this is Sandy's most cohesive map. It has a certain sense of flow in it that almost reminds me of Romero's style. Very fun.
@Noutelus
@Noutelus Жыл бұрын
Wow came here 23sec after upload !!
@MrRagusa76
@MrRagusa76 Жыл бұрын
You beat me to it...
@StoneHill777
@StoneHill777 Жыл бұрын
Lovely done, great job as always. The way you "aah yes" in the begging of the video reminds me of a Skyrim NPC.
@JangianTV
@JangianTV Жыл бұрын
Everyone's favourite level? Well, the Dean of Doom certainly rates it! 😁 Well done on completing it without any outtakes.
@vinamratarnekar1698
@vinamratarnekar1698 Жыл бұрын
Your skills to walk(run) over those narrow ledegs🤩
@MrZebub
@MrZebub Жыл бұрын
Unironically one of my favorite d2 maps.
@Nuclearstomp
@Nuclearstomp Жыл бұрын
At the end I honestly thought you fell down lol. You got me with the floor.
@TheEndlessObsession
@TheEndlessObsession Жыл бұрын
You've really made me appreciate Doom 2's maps with this playthrough. I used to think they were mostly awful save a couple, but I'm starting to really dig some of the ideas they came up with. Amazing play in the Chaingunner office at 7:08 btw. I dont know how you didnt take more damage but man did you make it look easy.
@Cardthulhu
@Cardthulhu Жыл бұрын
This is unironically my favorite doom map.
@sanketower
@sanketower Жыл бұрын
I've seen so many speedruns of this map that I've already forgot half of its content. It's definitely more fun than I remember.
@thor1829
@thor1829 Жыл бұрын
The Chasm is such a fun map, I hated it when I was a little kid but it has gone to being one of my favourite maps in the IWADS; it's just so unique and its gameplay is so different compared to the rest of the level set.
@1pcfred
@1pcfred Жыл бұрын
You'd like Ozonia then. It's like a whole megawad of Chasm.
@jrock718
@jrock718 Жыл бұрын
I was looking forward to this one
@adinocc2042
@adinocc2042 Жыл бұрын
@2:32 WTF? Great stuff! LOL! 🤣🤣❗
@feliperojas-doomride
@feliperojas-doomride Жыл бұрын
surprisingly chill
@wilkiewilk
@wilkiewilk Жыл бұрын
Nice run! Very over-hated map. one of my favorites, even. Also, the Chasm is a great map to do a "Rocket Man" run... you IDFA as much as you want and you uv-max 100% only using rockets. makes the lost souls on tiny ledges extra suspenseful. :)
@soulshinobi
@soulshinobi Жыл бұрын
It's fun how elaborate this map is
@n3onkn1ght
@n3onkn1ght Жыл бұрын
Let me just say, I am _so glad_ you decided to do a nightmare run right after you decided to go for 100% items.
@schintus
@schintus Жыл бұрын
1:41 "I'm ready for more" -Kevin McCallister
@titsbitchmcgee7502
@titsbitchmcgee7502 Жыл бұрын
It's comforting knowing that even decino slips off the walkways at least once.
@FirithPanda
@FirithPanda Жыл бұрын
Even the gods of DOOM have slip-ups here and there.
@theoffensivelemon2515
@theoffensivelemon2515 Жыл бұрын
Damn banana peels. Nobody is safe from their wrath.
@jamesbrassfield8409
@jamesbrassfield8409 Жыл бұрын
Oh hell yeah
@Garde538
@Garde538 Ай бұрын
You did amazing in the blue room with the pinkys
@therealxoc
@therealxoc Жыл бұрын
I remember how impossible the ledges seemed back in 1995! Such a smart design. The way you keep getting teleported to the tallest red column - I always thought of that as Sandy insisting that you learn platforming (not to mention pressing Use on computer terminals)!
@nikitost0p85
@nikitost0p85 Жыл бұрын
One of my favorite maps from Doom 2! Nice job as always, Decino!
@user-xt6li7ih3l
@user-xt6li7ih3l Жыл бұрын
WOW! Those button mashing skills! Surely we see a professional here!
@willeatpants7691
@willeatpants7691 Жыл бұрын
Yay. Chasm! My friend who just played doom2 for the first time had some special words for this map 😂 I've heard about raising the roof, but this is first time I've seen someone raise the floor!
@chriswaudby1084
@chriswaudby1084 Жыл бұрын
Quite chilled out some of this map is but some dangerous caco's along the way 😮
@theshep
@theshep Жыл бұрын
very fresh
@adampodlewski5140
@adampodlewski5140 Жыл бұрын
you gotta love those ledges
@1pcfred
@1pcfred Жыл бұрын
The speed run record of this map is epic.
@retrocoach16
@retrocoach16 Жыл бұрын
"Tomorrow is gonna be Blood Falls, I wish you all a beautiful day" Sounds like a very weird festivity... Anyway, GG, One of the most memorable map of Doom II. That section with respawining imps, chaingunner and hell knights is very challenging
@paulkarpun3709
@paulkarpun3709 Жыл бұрын
I like The Chasm. I don't know why, but it's have it's own atmosphere. There's a big openworld. It's have a concept of these thin ledges. Good map, thanks to Sandy.
@MaximumSpice
@MaximumSpice Жыл бұрын
After all these years I never knew that bfg secret!
@germanb90
@germanb90 Жыл бұрын
Another chasm defender over here, great map, great atmosphere. Good to see it get some decilove
@MrRagusa76
@MrRagusa76 Жыл бұрын
"I slipped on a banana peel!" - decino 2023 -
@stylesrj
@stylesrj Жыл бұрын
4:10 ...I did not know there was an entire room there and a BFG... I guess since it doesn't count as a Secret I'd never find it. You learn something new every day...
@nathanlamont9920
@nathanlamont9920 Жыл бұрын
"I really hate those bloody ledges" ~ Demonlord
@iguana9173
@iguana9173 Жыл бұрын
Me too. On the game boy advance version the ledges are more wider than the original version of the level.
@richtakings3359
@richtakings3359 Жыл бұрын
Nice run....You could say it was pretty Awe-Chasm-ic.
@turhiki
@turhiki Жыл бұрын
2:12's "Yeaaahh, listen to that: Pro-Gaming skills" is definitely gonna get sampled for a breakbeat track!... or something. On a side note, your videos are the reason I now only play Doom II on UV. More fun, although I get my ass kicked all the time!
@uraldamasis6887
@uraldamasis6887 Жыл бұрын
Wow, long video. I'm looking forward to lots of outtakes!
@ioanc2
@ioanc2 Жыл бұрын
This map seems the originator for giant mine/underground techbase levels with little machinery and really quiet and eerie. I like it for this reason, but I wish it had more detail to stand out. Oh well, Doom II was made on a tight schedule anyway.
@Lackooo84
@Lackooo84 Жыл бұрын
Finally!
@chiqi335
@chiqi335 Жыл бұрын
that flashback to doom 1 was very intense
@Fyshtako
@Fyshtako Жыл бұрын
The cheese on the raising floor always cracks me up. Peak early 3d shooter jank.
@matthewmchargue-es1or
@matthewmchargue-es1or Жыл бұрын
I really enjoy longer maps, but thats just me. ♡
@mja2317
@mja2317 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love The Chasm, but then again I tend to prefer open-ended, non-linear level design.
@pjousma
@pjousma Жыл бұрын
almost 11 minutes, what a nightmare
@podfuk
@podfuk Жыл бұрын
I love The Chasm, first trully modern map IMHO Especially when you consider how quickyl Sandy cranked the maps in just a few months of time
@tylerjennings8242
@tylerjennings8242 Жыл бұрын
As much as most of us hate this map, it’s certainly one of a handful of Doom 2 maps that were burned into my brain from childhood. It’s not the best map, but it’s certainly memorable.
@Chunes3
@Chunes3 Жыл бұрын
This is genuinely my favorite map in Doom II. The Spirit World almost beats it, but mostly because of the midi.
@JayQuazaThePokemonHunter
@JayQuazaThePokemonHunter Жыл бұрын
Never been this early before lol
@Meatman8089
@Meatman8089 Жыл бұрын
Chasm is sexy. I remember when I was a kid doing this keyboard only. Holy crap it's infinitely harder without a mouse
@user-oe7tw9iv4k
@user-oe7tw9iv4k Жыл бұрын
Didn't know about the trick for getting invulnerability in such cool way.
@classicshooters8902
@classicshooters8902 Жыл бұрын
8:05, the imp's fireball phases through the wall. Spoooooky!
@gravijiga
@gravijiga Жыл бұрын
I actually really like the tech area’s design with all the chain gunners. Its rare to see console surface textures act as switches too
@lenin17301560
@lenin17301560 Жыл бұрын
Weird seeing this map for more than 30 seconds.
@amphimixis
@amphimixis Жыл бұрын
I hated this map originally but over time I started to understand its brilliance. It’s certainly misunderstood like Barrels o Fun.
@avvn9331
@avvn9331 Жыл бұрын
Challenging and fun map
@Ben_of_Langley
@Ben_of_Langley Жыл бұрын
I use to hate this level only because I always fell off the edges but actually it's not that bad really though I still tend to rush through this level whenever I play it didn't even know about the bfg secret untill many years later but yeah cheers for the upload decino
@victoriouswinner7745
@victoriouswinner7745 Жыл бұрын
Chasm? Nightmare! mode? I hope you can recover from this haunting experience 😔🙏
@exit322
@exit322 Жыл бұрын
Not a popular opinion but I've always liked this map.
@GazaAli
@GazaAli Жыл бұрын
Come on decino, we all know that wasn't a banana peel...that was cacodemon dung!
@wanderleisilva5825
@wanderleisilva5825 Жыл бұрын
Looking forward for monsters condo, my favorite
@sebastiangarcia8246
@sebastiangarcia8246 Жыл бұрын
Hello decino good job for doing DOOM 2 MAP 24 on Nightmare difficulty It's not easy with the tight edges in that MAP.
@sebastiangarcia8246
@sebastiangarcia8246 Жыл бұрын
Thanks decino for giving me a like in my reply. I see your videos so thank you 🤙.
@user-kw4qx4qu8c
@user-kw4qx4qu8c Жыл бұрын
Oh, when you reach Monster Condo, say "Hello" to Barney the Arch-vile. But please don't kill him - he have some beers for me.
@arandomgamer02
@arandomgamer02 Жыл бұрын
Sandy consciously designed Doom as a maze/puzzle game. It’s a style that didn’t go on to become a dominant style for the series, however.
@DEdens1525
@DEdens1525 Жыл бұрын
I thought that was going to be way harder than it was.
@jackotheclown89
@jackotheclown89 Жыл бұрын
Hey Decino, been watching your videos for a couple of months now, really enjoying your content. How do you get the text to display in the bottom left corner of the screen telling you about how many kills/items and secrets you have?
@Chunes3
@Chunes3 Жыл бұрын
It's one of the HUDs built in to DSDA-Doom, which is the source port decino uses. You cycle through the HUDs with the F5 key if memory serves.
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