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Imagine playing as a Nord and killing all the tribunal in Morrowind

I really loved the contrasting videos about Tiber Septim. Reminds me of how real world historical figures have good and bad sides but are often only viewed as one or the other depending on the agenda and biases of who is telling the story. It shows how deep and layered some Elder Scrolls lore and history is.

THE KING IS BACK! And I don't mean Tiber Septim. Great to see a video made by Double Negative pop up in my subscription. Welcome back!

God I feel so bad for poor queen Barenziah , How she didn’t kill Tiber in his sleep amazes me.

I saw the title and was like “oh the real Tiber septim and hour ago... oh an HOUR AGO?"

This version of the assassination of the king is way more believable than the Empire's version

Ouch Tiber. Sleep with Barenziah and then when you find out the result of sex can be a child, order someone to kill the child o.O? Holy shit.

I cannot tell you how much I missed your content. Glad ur back bro!

I like to believe that most of the official Imperial accounts of Tiber Septim are true, in that he was definitely from Atmora, that he was definitely Dragonborn, and that he did have altruistic intentions at least in the beginning for wanting to unite all of Tamriel under one banner, though obviously lost sight of it when actually starting his conquest. It does seem plausible he killed Cuhlecain, but maybe he did it to stop the (potentially) evil Cuhlecain from causing further chaos, since he wasn't Dragonborn and therefore not ordained by Akatosh to rule as Emperor, and maybe Tiber/Talos had no other choice. Most of the Arcturian Heresy stuff seems accurate to me as well regarding the nature of Septim's campaign, as it explains in greater detail and justification how he managed to get the more reluctant provinces of Hammerfell, Elsweyr, Black Marsh, Valenwood and Morrowind under the Empire's control. I genuinely think this is the order in which Tiber assimilated them too, since the Redguards were the last of the human races to win over and aiding in their civil war would do just that, the Khajiit to my knowledge didn't pose much of a challenge and so were the easiest non-human race to subjugate first (though I doubt the Emperor himself relished in it as much as his plundering generals did, but still, he did have a slight hand in it), Black Marsh's inhospitable and disease-ridden swamps were reported to have stumped Imperial advances so gravely that Septim had to just accept that only the outer bits of the region could be conquered while the centre was left to a better-adapted Argonian stewardship as a form of compromise, this would've likely humbled the Empire and so would have been the reason for their leniency with Valenwood's Bosmeri defenders, and finally I moreless agree with the situation that transpired with the Dunmer and the Tribunal and that an embittered Wulfharth was involved in it, so Morrowind would likely have been the penultimate challenge of the whole campaign. As for Summerset Isle and the Numidium, I'd say that too is accurate, yet I'd say that this would have been the last straw for Tiber Septim in terms of all the morally dubious events that happened then, and that the rest of his reign after Tamriel's full unification would be devoted to atoning for the tragedies across the continent he allowed to happen. All in all, yes Tiber Septum did have a bit of a muddy reputation in the middle of his story, but the beginning and end show his true character, and that is the real reason for his apotheosis into the honourable, yet controversial patron of all of Tamriel.

Watch the skies, traveler.

I like how the mythos of Tiber Septim proves that everyone believes what they want to believe of their heroes.

You need to finish this series man, all the way to the most recent lore. You are by far the best story teller I’ve come across on this subject and myself and for sure many others are dying for more

That one dislike is from Tiber Septim

Ahhh was so worried you'd disappeared for good! Can't wait for this, thanks man! 😀

Actually some of the best TES lore content on KZfaq, able to keep me engaged throughout and providing webs of association through the rendering of the characters discussed, along with many other visuals of geographic locations and important items. Thanks to this, among other things, this series has been very easy to follow while being quite informative.

By Azura By Azura By Azura, it's the Grand Champion! Glad to see you back!

No one does these kindve videos quite like you, man. Would love to see more!

"sycophanticly atttibuiting it to the emperors potency" OwO

Hell yeah! I was just binging through the series yesterday, I’m so excited!

What I love about Elder Scrolls’ Lore is that its people and races aren’t as black and white as most other fantasy universes. Like real life history, the Elder Scrolls’ history is very complicated and filled up with various secrets and nuances that cannot be easily obtain from an imperial approved history book. The Aylieds may have been human torturing slavers, but they were still people with hopes, dreams, and aspirations. Some probably didn’t even own slaves but we’re still caught in Pelinal’s psychopathic rampage. To have a society of men, women and children wiped out in the blink of an eye is truly a horrific thought to process. The reachmen may seem as barbaric savages, but they also care greatly for the world as anyone else does. Even the Mythic Dawn who’s motivations aren’t justifiable by any means, still have a reason and a driving force for their motivations, they aren’t just a “oooh evil devil worshiping cult, who wants to destroy the world”, they legitimately believe that the world is flawed, and they need to bring great change in order to make it a better place. See what I mean? It’s stuff like this on why I love the Elder Scrolls series so much.

If Talos isn't a Divine, Then why do his shrines cure disease and grant blessings?

Double Negative makes me Double Positive

one of my few reasons to wake up in the morning. i love you sir

Jesus Christ man I've been needing your videos back in my life!! It is so awesome to see you back at it, and I hope to see more, love your Elder Scrolls content!

Essentially Tiber Septum is the elder scrolls version of Alexander the great

This is what I have been looking for in a Tiber Septim video. Thank you.

There may be only 30 comments rn, but I read each one and go "yes. I am not the only one who NEEDS this series." I've felt like a puppy left outside and forgotten since you've been gone.

Soo ... Wulfharth writing *Arcturian* heresy or Barenziah and Tiber having an affair before he united Tamriel, huh? She was 3 y.o. at the time his conquest ended. Why no words about dragon break AND Zurin smashing Numidium also near Summerset so deaths of the nobles by it could be a one of many it's uses at the same time. I'm sorry for the tone of the comment, but so many people sees Septim only in negative light these days - it is depressing to hear more of the not-quite-right lore for him. The flow of the video and your incredible voice are worth the praise however.

so excited every time I see the notification, another great episode king.

Tiber Septim: Illegitimate child will be a problem for my heirs and legacy! Kill it! Martin Septim: Wow, good thing he didn't know about me, then.

I love the crap out of these videos. Subscribed. Keep them coming brother!

Great video and welcome back! Have you considered to make a video about Snow Elves, Ysgramor and Dragon Wars? There are dozens of unanswered questions during that time period.

Hope you make more vids soon man. It's clear you make vids as a fun side thing but I just can't get enough of the way you deliver the lore. 😁

I was so happy to see this in my recommended!!!

Glad to see you make a return with another great lore video. This channel is by far my favorite channel when it comes to the Elder Scrolls lore, thank you sir and have a great day.

Of all the ES lore channels, you actually narrate. Very enjoyable

It's a shame that this is the video that only got 30k views. While I totally understand why you wouldn't get into it here, I think it's important to explain that one of the reasons people cling to this story is that it hews *so close* to Vivec's understanding of the Tribunal's own godhood in the 36 Lessons. Which, not claiming to *personally* understand them because goddamn, but basically: There's a recurring pattern in TES of a "King, Rebel and Observer", or... Warrior, Thief and Mage (yeah, those birthsigns). Or "Change (Padomay), Stasis (Anu) and again, Observer (Nir). It crops up *all over the place* the more that you look. Vivec describes it, or at least implies it, to be one of the six ways to "reach heaven by violence", presumably in the sense that whatever they did with the Heart wouldn't have mattered if not for the three of them mirroring this pattern. Vivec seems to be the only person in-universe that really *gets* this, not that we understand it very well ourselves. Here we've three dudes seen as one in the same by history, in multiple ways depending on how you squint at it Hjalti + Stormcrown = Talos, Ysmir + Arctus = the Underking, and Tiber screwed with Dwemer god tech the same way the Tribunal did, with Ysmir and Arctus powering it. Being in the middle of that soupy mythopoetic mess of a Dragon Break is as good of a recipe for godhood as any. (Sprinkle in Tiber developing the Cult of Emperor Zero, dedicated to Cuhlecain, which jump-started the practice of worshiping emperors as gods, for seasoning.) Some even think he took Lorkhan's place as the "missing" ninth divine, since Lorkhan would've been the god of mankind if he didn't get his heart yanked out. Perhaps Vivec agreed to help Tiber become something like the Tribunal as part of their treaty.

I really missed these presentations! Thank you!!!

I really like that Double Negative make his series based on game and official sources

Yesss!!! Thank you for coming back!!

This video clears op so many questions I had about the lore, thank you!

YOU'RE BACK!!!!!!! DAMN THIS MADE MY WHOLE WEEK

Glad to see you're back !

Our Tiber Septim of Elder Scrolls lore returns and you better believe I have the reminder set. #praiseStendarr

Please do a recap on Daggerfall it would help me out so much. Also no one else has done a recap on it yet and you are definitely the man for the job. Great video!!!

I think that both accounts are true simultaneously despite their contradictory natures. I think that this fully encapsulate the fact that Talos mantled lorkhan, the god of change and chaos. I think that Talos first lived as one of the last Atmorans, and lived on to fulfill the life that the empire preaches. But whenever he mantled Lorkhan and ascended into godhood, to fully mimic the God of change and chaos, he had to pervert time, pervert himself and his life and change every aspect of who he was originally into this being that we know as Hjalti Early-Beard, a version of Tiber Septim who became Talos for all of the wrong reasons. I think that this could also explain away why the heresy was written by Wulfharth, despite him being dead in his own account. In fact, every single story that involves Lorkhan has a discrepancy between accounts that cause chaos. So maybe to fully mantle Lorkhan, Tiber Septim himself had to become a being with conflicting narratives.

you should just full steam make these videos, there the best on your channel

Your videos are the best elder scrolls content to come out in the last nine years.

Tiber Septim purged Elves with what is basically an NEXT Armored Core that deletes reality by screaming "NOOOOO!!!" at it. Easily the best emperor.

I can't believe it!! I love your videos!!! Please don't stop

Glad to see you back!

You know who I really feel bad for… Barenziah’s first husband. That poor man.

I NEED MORE!! Such good videos

My absolute boy is back at it again

Great work as always!

I like how Queen Barenziah wasn’t supposed to have kids but Tibers nut was just so potent and powerful she got pregnant anyways. What a Chad.

This deserves more views ngl

I have hated Tiber Septim/ Talo ever since I learned what he did to Barenziah.

Welcome back

Great work, keep it up man!

Allinall had a field day with this

Really good videos. The lore is so great.

Tiber Septim is a menace in this one

I wish you would make more content dude you're fucking awwessommme🤙🤙🤙

HES ALIVE!

Pls make more lore vids man

The Madman himself

Poor Barenziah. Betrayed in love too often.

Thanks! Welcome back DN

I love that Hjalti sounds similar to Shouty

Oh we back!

The scholar returns!

What a good vid!

At last the new septim emperor has been return to bring peace back to the tamrial

Ashen Nords resummoned from the Underworld are a known phenomenon in nordic lore.

Return of The King

Oh hell yeah another video

Your explanations are satisfying as fuck

Tiber is perfectly applicable to the meme "Those who don't know, those who know"

Probably the real Tiber septem

"But not THAT Underking." What?

You should do one of theese on the skyrim dragon cult

The Underking is a confusing figure. What is he in Daggerfall. Is he really Zurin or is he both he and Zurin at once.

WHOOOO HES HERE

YES YES MY MAN YES

Barenziah had ADHD

Where did you go bruh

Weird to think the first Tiber Septim video came out when I moved cities, that long ago.

"Who the hell is steve jobs?" 3:53

The Prodigal Son! 🙏

nice

So the Empire is Roman Empire and I am Septim :)

The reign of a pragmatic man gave birth to hyperbole and bias on all sides.

Personally I don’t believe the arcturian because it’s extremely biased and there’s little evidence that actually proves the book correct plus there are other books in the games that just make up stuff so what’s really true is unknown but what we do know is that talos original origin holds weight and is the most likely to be true

ohh yeah

Bit of a jerk this septim guy.

I cant believe it

Hey what's up

at last