What the S5 II means for the future of Panasonic cameras

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The phase detection autofocus of the Panasonic S5 II finally addresses the biggest complaint about the Lumix camera line-up: inconsistent focus performance. Now that Panasonic has the technology, what does this mean to the rest of the Lumix camera lines?
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0:00 - Intro
0:53 - Brand perception
2:22 - S-Series full frame bodies
6:11 - G-Series M43 bodies
9:11 - The wrap
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@trustnugget280
@trustnugget280 Жыл бұрын
I think the S5II is the most exciting release in the camera world in a long time! Suddenly Panasonic has made their way back onto stage with a big surprise and I think we're all here for it.
@Chase-Video
@Chase-Video Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Biggest camera release since the A7SIII.
@MW-df2fm
@MW-df2fm Жыл бұрын
Everyone hypes Panasonic for changing to technolgie wich exists for years i don't see any huge suprise besides the integration of LUTs in body.
@trustnugget280
@trustnugget280 Жыл бұрын
@@MW-df2fm It's surprising for Panasonic as a company. And it is indeed impressive that their first version of this advanced autofocus system is this good, easily holding up to the likes of Canon and Sony who have been implementing this for (much much) longer. The thought of better competition is what excites me the most to be honest.
@denis5850
@denis5850 Жыл бұрын
@@trustnugget280 wtf did you see some video ? The autofocus is bad asf he crazy hunt a Sony a7iii 5 year old destroy it
@trustnugget280
@trustnugget280 Жыл бұрын
@@denis5850 Watch Richard Wong's test on the autofocus performance and see for yourself
@bigdhav
@bigdhav Жыл бұрын
G9 mkii with PDAF. Massively underrated photo camera with excellent video features AND IT HAD A FULL SIZE HDMI!!!!
@masssssy
@masssssy Жыл бұрын
Yes, Panasonic please do not give up on the G9. It's the perfect hybrid camera that doesn't fill a whole backpack with lenses.
@3runjosh
@3runjosh Жыл бұрын
I would love that to upgrade my GH5
@iM-mf1ke
@iM-mf1ke Жыл бұрын
I'm confused, I don't see a G9 mark 1 or 2 in Panasonics catalog? I just see G9. I'm new to Panasonic and I am trying to figure out the differences . Sorry in advance if this is a silly question.
@masssssy
@masssssy Жыл бұрын
@@iM-mf1ke there's no g9 mk2 in existance. People wants a second version and for that second version to come with phase detect auto focus! It would be perfect!
@iM-mf1ke
@iM-mf1ke Жыл бұрын
@@masssssy I see …. I guess I didn’t read the comment correctly . Thanks for explaining.
@happyblueyes
@happyblueyes Жыл бұрын
New gx80/ gx9 style camera with the new autofocus, would be the ultimate affordable street camera
@connormccaskill
@connormccaskill Жыл бұрын
I totally agree with Jordan. Give us some tiny little micro 4/3 bodies with phase detect!
@ericaceous1652
@ericaceous1652 Жыл бұрын
A G9 II with good animal detect implementation, phase detection autofocus, similar size - I've never bought a new camera, always second hand, but I'd pre-order a G9 II. I think Panasonic have the potential to outstrip Canon, Nikon and Sony, if they continue to refine their autofocus system while keeping to features and habits that have made Panasonic cameras great to this point (useful video features, great menus and ergonomics, robust firmware updates)
@rwilifeandtravel1854
@rwilifeandtravel1854 Жыл бұрын
Love to see a new GX7 style camera with hybrid PDAF, external mic input, 4K/60p, and 1/8000 top shutter speed. For now I'm still using my GX7.
@AllThingsFilm1
@AllThingsFilm1 Жыл бұрын
As someone who originally shot my first feature film with the Panasonic GH5 and switched to Sony over a year ago, I can say that the S5ii and S5iiX could quite well bring me back to Panasonic. I think Panasonic skin tones are far superior than most other brands. At least, that was my experience. I think these two new cameras are a game changer for Panasonic. And might be just the cameras that bring me back to Panasonic. As a filmmaker, I am especially eyeing the S5iiX for its features.
@proksalevente
@proksalevente Жыл бұрын
A7r5 fixes sony auto white balance, look into the skin tones on that body
@martysender5539
@martysender5539 Жыл бұрын
TOTALLY AGREED AND GLAD TO SEE SOMEONE WHO AGREES..SONY SKIN TONES SUCK. CANON OKAY, NIKON SO SO. BUT PANNY? USUALLY JUST RIGHT.
@spaceghostcqc2137
@spaceghostcqc2137 Жыл бұрын
@@martysender5539 Fuji's look good to me too, though I have not worked with their modern cameras.
@stevejones01
@stevejones01 Жыл бұрын
@@martysender5539 Yup, it took me several camera purchases before I realized that about Panny too. The current S5 is stellar. Photo and video
@elephantgrass631
@elephantgrass631 Жыл бұрын
Yes but are they the cameras that bring you back to Panasonic?
@artistjoh
@artistjoh Жыл бұрын
A lot of us are not interestested in L mount, and look forward to implementation of phase detect in MFT, GH6 M2, GH5 M3, G9 M2
@DoubleThumbsUp
@DoubleThumbsUp Жыл бұрын
A GX85/GX9 replacement with their new AF system and their improved IBIS would be a very competitive camera against Sony APS-C cameras (ZV-E10 or A6400) for nonprofessional users! It might even be more appealing than the Sonys as Panasonic stabilization is much better 👍👍
@andreassilverbris9924
@andreassilverbris9924 Жыл бұрын
Yes, GX9 mk2, thank you very much.
@Freemen89
@Freemen89 Жыл бұрын
I've been usining GX9 for 4 yers, droped it in water and bought again - in 2023 it still pretty EDC/street camera! Want new sensor with PDAF, new OLED evf and 5-stop (or better) IBIS. It might be a perfect crop-camera ever!
@JoseOnTheAir
@JoseOnTheAir Жыл бұрын
GX85 user here! I think their best shot would probably be a G100 II or G200 with the new AF system and unlimited runtime. That would keep me from fully switching to Sony for sure. I recently sold my LX10 that I adored for a ZV-1 for the better focus and recording. I really hope 2023 is the year Panasonic needs to really claw back into main conention.
@arturcharaev1336
@arturcharaev1336 Жыл бұрын
And weather sealing! Without weather resistance it's very limited, it could be best edc street camera, but it should had pdaf, weather sealing and better EVF!
@petercruz1993
@petercruz1993 Жыл бұрын
@@JoseOnTheAir agreed a G100ii would be great. I personally have 12-35mm f2.8 & 42.5mm on it and it’s all I need (except for the autofocus)
@ericmenu5408
@ericmenu5408 Жыл бұрын
A G9 replacement with Phase AF please !!! Even with 20 MPix, I don't care ! And yes bring us also replacement for the GX9 and GM5 with Phase AF !
@stevejones01
@stevejones01 Жыл бұрын
Currently my S5 is by far my favorite photo camera over my Sony or Nikon cameras even with the lack luster auto focus. I'll wait for the S5 IIX.
@Fedorevsky
@Fedorevsky Жыл бұрын
Yes, I'm also waiting for the S5IIx
@ZachAshcraft
@ZachAshcraft Жыл бұрын
What is it that you prefer about it?
@stevejones01
@stevejones01 Жыл бұрын
@@ZachAshcraft The color science is stunning. I bought the S5 for video. I had no Idea the still side was going to be that good. No matter how much I tweak it in post, my Sony A7 III just doesn't look as good to my eye. That's why I skipped on the A7 IV. I just never really liked any photography from my Sony compared to my old Nikon D600. I had to force myself to use it. Now the S5 is even better.
@michevanessen
@michevanessen Жыл бұрын
For us non professionals that still shoot regular weekly videos and use the same camera for photo - I can’t be more excited for a new G9 but if I ever go FF I definitely think it’ll be one of the Lumix offerings - I’m very impressed with the S5ii and everything Panasonic has done and the extreme long support Panasonic has given us for existing products.
@SpruceUp612
@SpruceUp612 Жыл бұрын
I really want a G9ii as well. The S5ii is cool but I have already owned several full frame cams and the lens bulk is something I won’t go back to. My PanaLeica 8-18 and 50-200 are my bread and butter as a hobbyist and no other system can pull me away from those lenses.
@hakeem-ji
@hakeem-ji Жыл бұрын
i really want that focus limiter in current line of S series camera
@glsracer
@glsracer Жыл бұрын
I have been waiting for a G9 and GX9 replacement with PDAF and more resolution.
@thierryjouy254
@thierryjouy254 Жыл бұрын
Me too.
@TelmanRaoofi
@TelmanRaoofi Жыл бұрын
I definitely like to see a Panasonic MFT body around OM5 size. Panasonic have not released such a small and capable body in years and I really want to see one with all innovations that Panasonic can offer.
@petercruz1993
@petercruz1993 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. I’d love a g100 with g9 features and good AF
@0M0rty
@0M0rty Жыл бұрын
For me, GX style bodies is M4/3 at its best. Still very small bodies, but with very good build quality, good amount of features, with great IBIS (important now that smartphones have very good night modes and whatnot). Street/travel/everyday carry (with pancake lenses) - all scenarios where ultimate image quality doesn't matter but better and more versatile glass compared to a smartphone comes in handy - and GX body excels in all of these. Pack it with the latest sensor, procesor and computational modes and it's gonna be great.
@BrendonKPadjasek
@BrendonKPadjasek Жыл бұрын
I know Lumix said they're done with the compact line but I would LOVE a new GX camera. The gx85 is awesome but with that larger sensor and PDAF, it would kill
@denisrandomtech5822
@denisrandomtech5822 Жыл бұрын
I just cant wait for a Lumix G9 ii. It would be an instant buy.
@CymBan
@CymBan Жыл бұрын
Panasonic needs to refresh their lineup now. GH6 II, G9 II, GX8 II /w a tilt screen or perhaps a GX9 II with a much better EVF all with Phase Detect AF
@OfficialSushiSystemAmbassador
@OfficialSushiSystemAmbassador Жыл бұрын
Yes, they need to focus on MFT again, but unfortunately I don’t see this happening.
@CameraCombo
@CameraCombo Жыл бұрын
Taking photos on a phone sucks. Give us a GM replacement with PDAF!
@CallMeChato
@CallMeChato Жыл бұрын
But how are Panasonic’s sales? Camera biz is shrinking. Too little too late? Updated M43 travel cams would be great. Love my G9 but are any lenses PD capable? I would love to be able to keep my lens collection. G9II?
@CO8848_2
@CO8848_2 Жыл бұрын
S5 always gave me much better day time videos, the highlight rolloff is much more pleasing than the Sony I have. This is giving them much broader appeal to video shooters.
@pilarpsp127
@pilarpsp127 Жыл бұрын
Would love to see micro 4/3 with this AF
@lordmashie
@lordmashie Жыл бұрын
I'm praying they make a GX7 Mk4. I'm rocking the GX85 (GX7 Mk2) right now.
@edwin_ac
@edwin_ac Жыл бұрын
For its form factor, I would like the GX9 to have a phase detect autofocus.
@Durio_zibethinus
@Durio_zibethinus Жыл бұрын
Imagine how chaotic their r&d department was for this decision.
@jgaffney567
@jgaffney567 Жыл бұрын
Nah they are not Canon who had something to lose. Which is why the switch to mirrorless took so long and why Canon sensors generally do not reach competition levels
@joseltp3034
@joseltp3034 Жыл бұрын
My guess is it wasn't chaotic at all. I think the decision might have been unanimous. The phase autofocus was long overdue
@Ulrich.Bierwisch
@Ulrich.Bierwisch Жыл бұрын
My guess is Sony didn't wanted them to use PDAF and refused to license it or asked to much. May be it was necessary to threaten with building a competing sensor technology and the GH6 finally helped to get PDAF-sensors. It is also possible they where just stubborn.
@GrenlandUnderVann
@GrenlandUnderVann Жыл бұрын
@@Ulrich.Bierwisch the DFD engineer was retired in 2021. 😛
@loudmotion5639
@loudmotion5639 Жыл бұрын
@@Ulrich.Bierwisch according to some guys that went to tokyo and who talked to the engineers! Pdaf was in the work even before the first s5 release but they wanted to make sure they got a really good working system before release ( am guessing its how japanese are, always really proud of their work or they just prefer not to release the product if its alrdy a fiasco.
@stuntmonkey00
@stuntmonkey00 Жыл бұрын
S5ii is a legit tempting proposition now, especially at the competitive price. Also, I've always liked the feel of their full frame bodies; they are a bit chunky but they have are really good to hand-hold and use.
@scottfineshriber5051
@scottfineshriber5051 Жыл бұрын
I hope this means a whole new era of success for Panasonic. I have loved their MFT cameras and lenses. I say Canon better rethink their no-third-party-lenses policy fast. I’m tempted to go back to a larger sensor and Canon was my intention, but the S5II is much more appealing to me. I’m also impressed at Panasonic’s realization that if they added PDAF after this long a wait it better be as good as, or better than anyone else’s PDAF. I might also go for a PDAF G9. Thanks gentlemen for your insights.
@Chase-Video
@Chase-Video Жыл бұрын
You’re absolutely right, Canon need to rethink a lot of things. Like including clog2 and all-i in their mid range hybrids. The S5II suddenly makes the R6II look underpowered and overpriced. And I say this as a Canon user.
@BryanSchultzitis
@BryanSchultzitis Жыл бұрын
I really hope they continue to kill it! My favorite cameras I've owned have been the G9, the GH5, and the GX85. Panasonic cameras are just really easy to use both physically and software-wise. As much as I love the images out of my A7RIV, I would switch back to Panasonic if their autofocus catches up
@RobbyHuang
@RobbyHuang Жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly!
@iamhassan9943
@iamhassan9943 Жыл бұрын
It has caught up. Their first try and they knocked it out of the park. Of course it will get firmware updates to improve.
@bigdhav
@bigdhav Жыл бұрын
G9 has full size hdmi! Hugely underrated
@Reyfox1
@Reyfox1 Жыл бұрын
I love my G9!
@MarkoKoskenoja
@MarkoKoskenoja Жыл бұрын
Well said. I love my G9 and GX85 but the size and feel of G85 was fantastic too.
@dominic-ryan
@dominic-ryan Жыл бұрын
GX85 is now the only M43 camera I have. Would love to see a worthy upgrade path for this.
@doscheid
@doscheid Жыл бұрын
GM6 or GX9II (GX95). Either with an tilt all the way up screen for an eventual selfie. That is the only thing (together with PDAF) missing from my gx85 to be the perfect travel/casual camera. Any other improvements would be appreciated, of course.
@TheRealJonathanArdila
@TheRealJonathanArdila Жыл бұрын
A small body micro four third with the new technology, would be forever crowned the best street camera
@bencorwin
@bencorwin Жыл бұрын
DREAM CAMERA: GH6s, 12MP, IBIS, 48MP photo mode, Phase detection auto focus, 4K 240fps, gyro-based post stabilization like Sony and Black Magic just added. Please make it happen Panasonic!
@ChuckMcClary
@ChuckMcClary Жыл бұрын
I love micro 4/3, but committed to full frame for pro work because of pdaf and low light performance. Sensors are getting better all the time though. If Pany puts out a G9 replacement with pdaf, I’ll probably switch completely to micro 4/3.
@generalwhine5350
@generalwhine5350 Жыл бұрын
8:41 - YES! Didn't miss the mark with this comment. I now want a GX95, with phase detect video!? I love my GX7, which I only bought a few months ago.... Amazing travel camera.
@threeddie
@threeddie Жыл бұрын
I love my compact GX9. They should totally do another gen of these with that GH6 25MP MFT sensor. Perhaps even bifurcate it into a GX2M and a GX2L where the former uses a MFT mount, and the latter uses a L mount.
@kskmain
@kskmain Жыл бұрын
I really want a G9 successor with the new AF system. Please Panasonic! Make it happen!
@MatthiasBouillon
@MatthiasBouillon Жыл бұрын
Yeah, we want a G9MII 👍
@vaskoobscura_
@vaskoobscura_ Жыл бұрын
I'm sure it's only a matter of time before a G9II comes out. It's going to sell a ton.
@aaronstestlab
@aaronstestlab Жыл бұрын
Bring it to MFT!! I love the format and hope it doesn't die. But I have to admit, Panasonic's stubbornness when it came to phase detect autofocus was definitely testing my patience. I don't know where else I can get a 600mm ff equivalent lens that's only slightly larger than a soda can and prime lenses that are downright tiny.
@AguilaDeOnix85
@AguilaDeOnix85 Жыл бұрын
I think the combination of Panasonic's IS tech, evolving phase detect AF, and the option of lighter (S5 series) and bulkier (S1 series) of bodies can keep them alive. And if they continue to invest in their MFT systems with their great lens lineups with a high res option of bodies, even better.
@jurekjerry7274
@jurekjerry7274 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see a GX8, Mark 2 and a M43 rangefinder.
@BabanovConstantine
@BabanovConstantine Жыл бұрын
I would love to upgrade my G9 to G9ii with modern 4/3-type sensor with PDAF!
@hedydd2
@hedydd2 Жыл бұрын
Lumix really should update the very capable GX80/85 line of smaller body rangefinder style bodies. All my GX80 needs is a faster processor to work with phase detect autofocus and weather sealing. It has everything else a family/hobby/enthusiast needs in their most compact proper camera that may be the only, or one of several cameras in their system or collection.
@kaptnwelpe5322
@kaptnwelpe5322 Жыл бұрын
GF1/2 & GX1 form factor is even better! First: built-in EVF range-finder like suits right-eye dominant people. So an optional hot-shoe EVF which is tiltable is better. And makes the body itself cheaper.Having no tilt-screen make the camera slim (and cheaper). I can feel the difference while carrying a GF2 compared to a GF6 or Pen PL8 in my hand - which I do for hours...
@I4get42
@I4get42 Жыл бұрын
Great as always! I really want to keep using my MFT lenses, so I'm really hoping for an updated G9! 😍
@JWS1968
@JWS1968 10 ай бұрын
Whenever I want a new camera I watch many video's but it's Jordans video review I rely on because he really nails what's important.
@AlfredoCastil
@AlfredoCastil Жыл бұрын
If they release a GH6 II with phase detect I’m going to be so mad but I’ll preorder immediately.
@theotherlinh
@theotherlinh Жыл бұрын
I would certainly go for an remade GF1 with the newest sensor tech. That's the camera that got me into m43 and I still have it lying around :)
@ChristopherRauh
@ChristopherRauh Жыл бұрын
I was madly in love with my GF-1. Having a similar sized camera with PDAF (and maybe without 6k, 120fps, 4 channel audio and other advanced features) would be an absolute dream.
@workingwiththelight3119
@workingwiththelight3119 Жыл бұрын
If Panasonic would create small camera 📷 for content creators with great video features it would be a Hit
@johnherzel718
@johnherzel718 Жыл бұрын
I just want Panasonic to update the GX85 with this AF and maybe update the sensor. I use Canon for everything, but a GX85 that could autofocus? That would be perfect. Or maybe even the LX100, with autofocus (that doesn't suck). I love FF but I want a small camera with good photo and video that isn't my phone. Please put in a good word....
@manilamartin1001
@manilamartin1001 Жыл бұрын
I love the GM. Please please please
@KyleGustafson1986
@KyleGustafson1986 Жыл бұрын
I've been eyeing up a m43 rangefinder, but the current ones have too many limitations. I'm personally excited about a weather sealed gx8+ or Pen-F+, with some appropriately sized weather sealed lenses. Phase detect is a must though... My kids are fast
@scottfineshriber5051
@scottfineshriber5051 Жыл бұрын
😂
@user-sh3fl3zf1r
@user-sh3fl3zf1r Жыл бұрын
lx100m3 with pdaf and a little more megapixels would be lovely, I'd buy that in a heartbeat
@CatAvGuy
@CatAvGuy Жыл бұрын
Absolutely. If they won't give us a full-featured GX10 with stuff the GX85/9 were missing like this new PDAF implementation, audio input, an updated BSI sensor, and maybe weather sealing (I'd accept a relative increase in size towards the GX8 form factor for these sorts of features), then a new LX100 with as many improvements as possible baked in would be the next best thing for me.
@gradurbandesign
@gradurbandesign Жыл бұрын
Panasonic should focus on compact rangefinders as gx9 used to be. Update the viefinder, phase detect autofocus and put ina backlit illuminated 25mp sensor and I will buy it in no time inspite of having many other cameras because in terms of ergonomics it is still the best street photography camera in my opinion.
@ScottJWaldron
@ScottJWaldron Жыл бұрын
This camera definitely put Panasonic on my radar given their impressive video control and encoding features. Like Jordan has said, shutter angle should be more wide spread as a way to control hybrid cameras. That said, I guess fast readout sensors are at least another generation ahead for most camera tiers. 😥 Also, maybe the next G100 series camera can actually be good for vlogging with PDAF and IBIS instead of marketing doing their thing. 🤣 Though it will likely be a more expensive tier of camera to get IBIS into it. Panasonic looks like the perfect company now to totally control top level quality vlogging and other motion intense content creation.
@colinthecameraguy
@colinthecameraguy Жыл бұрын
Or what about a GX10 to steal some of the X100V groupies?
@andreasbulowhansen9413
@andreasbulowhansen9413 Жыл бұрын
Really weird that they didnt put this PDAF into the gh6, would have made that camera so much more attractive
@Offshorekite
@Offshorekite Жыл бұрын
A Q3 with phase detect = awesome and an M with phase detect confirmation would be INSANE!
@hellni79
@hellni79 Жыл бұрын
I'm a Fuji user and the Panasonic was the only FF intriguing me cause I've always found his image to be great, with amazing colours. Now that it provides this autofocus and given that the body costs basically as fuji X-H2, it may be really the time to jump on full frame... one day maybe
@BTMovieSecondChannel
@BTMovieSecondChannel Жыл бұрын
Yeah, Panasonic is also one of the other brands I would really consider for a video hybrid camera. X-T3 user here :)
@VoicesofMusic
@VoicesofMusic Жыл бұрын
H2 is really an excellent camera and cuts well in 8K with the A1.
@myeates1418
@myeates1418 Жыл бұрын
A brand new G9 would be greatly welcomed
@lancechinnian4043
@lancechinnian4043 Жыл бұрын
Could listen to these guys all day.
@photographerw.j.smithphoto1214
@photographerw.j.smithphoto1214 Жыл бұрын
Great video as always guys from my favourite team...have you heard any talk about perhaps a G9 upgrade body or firmware updates for the G series?
@villemononen5303
@villemononen5303 Жыл бұрын
GM-style m43 camera with good IBIS, phase detect, great battery, web camera enabled, and all the good other stuff... One can dream, but in any case GM-style approach again would be amazing, but updated to current era.
@simval84
@simval84 Жыл бұрын
I know the G100 was panned as the worst new camera of the year when it came out, but it's still the camera I use the most. I pair it with a 7artisan manual lens, 25mm f1.8 and it fits inside a jacket while offering great photo quality and a fun, retro shooting experience (Why not the Panasonic 25mm? Because it's twice as long, has no aperture ring and has awful focus-by-wire). And I can still carry the kit lens which is absolutely tiny. It's just such a neat little, light camera you can take anywhere while still offering all the basic features you might want. I hope Panasonic doesn't abandon the small, affordable m43 niche.
@arndgronenberg
@arndgronenberg Жыл бұрын
I know that these are kind of niche products, but I personally would love to see updated BS1H and BGH1 box cameras from Panasonic with PDAF. I'm using my BGH1 for live streams, and a reliable phase detection autofocus would make this camera even better. But I do have hope, as Lumix Germany replied to my question regarding whether there will be successors to these box cameras next on Instagram with "who knows... 😁"
@ianparr1533
@ianparr1533 Жыл бұрын
Maybe they'll do a G10 (aka G9ii) to compete with the OM-1 since the OM-1 seems to be doing well sales-wisel. Personally, I'd like to see a GX10 (small body, stills oriented, rangefinder styled) with up to date AF, EVF and stabilisation. To me, the GX format really embodies the spirit of MFT.
@g10col92
@g10col92 Жыл бұрын
I've still got a Panasonic G10 they launched it in 2010. So they would need to call it something else.
@joeperrone6677
@joeperrone6677 Жыл бұрын
I would love a Panasonic GX-10 - very small weather sealed body with and upgraded slightly higher resolution M4/3 sensor (maybe 24 mpx) that has 4k/60 video capability, the new auto focus system and is priced at $1,000 (body only).
@brianmckeever5280
@brianmckeever5280 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the shout out for a G9 successor! Still loving the G9 and my tiny Leica lenses to go from 16-800 FF equiv.
@olivial409
@olivial409 Жыл бұрын
I had a panasonic as my first camera and it sucked that I had to go with an e-m1iii instead of a g9 for the phase detect when I upgraded. This s5ii is the first camera that's gotten me excited in a long time. I'm not going to rush to buy it because my current gear works fine, but given the kinda shaky position of om system right now this is 100% what I'd buy to replace my current setup if I needed to. Maybe it's more likely I'd buy a g9ii with phase detect though because I'd already have a bunch of lenses for it
@scottfineshriber5051
@scottfineshriber5051 Жыл бұрын
Yes! I’m hoping for a G9 with PDAF, too.
@johnclay7644
@johnclay7644 Жыл бұрын
very informative 10mins review on the S5 mk II
@Kickboxritter
@Kickboxritter Жыл бұрын
Been using a g9 for 3 years ,mainly shooting automotive and Motorsport stuff, switched to the S5 exactly 1 year ago ... Very impressed so far from what I've seen from the S5 MK2 but I think I wait for an s1 MK2 for faster burst , 4k120 no crop and so on... Also curious what firmware updates Lumix will bring to the S5 MK2 as we all know how it transformed the s1 back in the days to an almost s1h . But overall very happy for Panasonic, joined them in 2012 with an fz200, 2017 an fz1000 and 2018 a g9. I always thought people made the dfd system worse than it actually was. I shoot a lot of bikeracing stuff and if you know how to customize the sensitivity in the correct way and what focus modes to use, it actually works really really well
@daehxxiD
@daehxxiD Жыл бұрын
I really hope a new GX-Body with PDAF is in the making. I'd love a follow-up to the GX90 with a good viewfinder and proper vari-agnle display. But a real GX8 successor would also be great (although it should go more towards the GX90/80 sized body, I feel). Give it some nice video-features ala S5 II and you've got a winner right there, both as a Travel/Street-Photocamera as well as a killer B-Cam. With that OM-1 Sensor it could be a real jack-of-all-trades in a smaller body and wouldn't have to directly compete with OM-1. Serious Film-makers could than always just get a cage for it and use the Hotshoe audio-jacks (which it should support ;))
@gabrielmachadobsb
@gabrielmachadobsb Жыл бұрын
If a new GX body was basically a gh5 mk II with PDAF on a gx85 size, it still would be the best entry camera out there. Just ditch the micro HDMI for at least a mini HDMI and keep the price below 800 dollars
@kaptnwelpe5322
@kaptnwelpe5322 Жыл бұрын
As a left eye domintant I prefer either a centered EVF or better:as an option which is tiltable. I also found that a can live without using a tilt LCD - my Pen PL8 or GF6 are not so "handsome" compared to my GF2 because of their tilt screens.
@martinschnabel1961
@martinschnabel1961 Жыл бұрын
To me, Panasonic cameras (mft and l mount) were already great before. They already have a great feature set. Now, with pdaf, it’s ofc even better.
@mattyskier
@mattyskier Жыл бұрын
I was about to sell all of my Panasonic gear to switch to Sony with the FX30, but the S5II announcement completely changed my plans and now I can continue to shoot what I'm comfortable with. With the 2nd S1H, if they could find a way to get to 15+ stops of DR, 6K60, and 4K120. 8K is still unnecessary for most mirrorless shooters, so I hope they prioritize DR and frame rates instead!
@etherity
@etherity Жыл бұрын
6k 60 and 4k 120 uncropped would be a dream...
@iamhassan9943
@iamhassan9943 Жыл бұрын
FF GX9 styles camera. Come on Panasonic…Do it!
@VoicesofMusic
@VoicesofMusic Жыл бұрын
Sadly after years and years (and years) of Panasonic cameras we switched to the Sony A1. AF, IS, 8K all perfect. Hoping Panasonic will build the 8K and the AF, they have the IS.
@daveoum8586
@daveoum8586 Жыл бұрын
The S5 II is making me consider leaving my Sony A7IV. Sony never did it for me despite having great cameras and especially good AF. I just love the ergonomics and features of Panasonic bodies but was always on the fence due to the lack of PDAF. It's now finally no longer an issue.
@jgaffney567
@jgaffney567 Жыл бұрын
The real difference now is lenses. Sony has availability while Panny has feature and ergonomics
@daveoum8586
@daveoum8586 Жыл бұрын
@@jgaffney567 I would basically get the same setup I have with Sony, replacing my Tamron lenses with Sigma : Sigma 28-70 and 16-28 f2.8 + Panasonic 50mm f1.8. So not much difference for me as I was never into GM lenses.
@jgaffney567
@jgaffney567 Жыл бұрын
@@daveoum8586 The real question is are you pro? Would you increase your bottom line by switching? Or do you have the means to switch financially just for the better feel ergonomics features.
@user-ik3bk4fj8w
@user-ik3bk4fj8w Жыл бұрын
@@jgaffney567 he doesn't know, he only want that new camera
@oblitafier
@oblitafier Жыл бұрын
The S5 IIX will be my next camera purchase. It seems they've actually got PDAF mostly right on their first attempt. I'm already invested in L-mount so finally having useable auto-focus with video makes it a no-brainer for me. They took their time lol
@ntchi
@ntchi Жыл бұрын
For sure. If they release GH6s, BGH2, S2H and BS2H with Phase-detect; That will make a BIG dent in the current Canon/Sony domination. Canon got saved by their lens ecosystem. Everyone has a 24-405L in their drawer... Sony got saved by their auto-focus. Not by their color science for sure... But LUMIX is the only one I really feel that goes by the Kaizen philosophy. Design and quality. Now that they got PDAF, it's game time again. Switched from Canon to Panasonic since the 2014 GH4. Never looked back. While 90% of my competitors moved to Sony or Canon in the last 5 years hypnotized by the auto-focus craze, I stuck with Pany. The image quality I get from BGH1 and BS1H is unrivaled. Auto-focus was never a pain point in my line work. In advertising and Corporate film, we rarely, if ever, auto-focus. BUT it has it's use for sure. And in the next 2 years, you'll see lots of movements...
@Da_Man_1221
@Da_Man_1221 Жыл бұрын
Would love to see a BGH2 with the GH6 sensor and phase detect implemented 🤞
@edvelfilms
@edvelfilms Жыл бұрын
I think Panasonic should get FOCUSED on the S and GH line primarily, and possibly a successor of the G9. But they should basically focus on hybrid FF cameras and MFT video-focused bodies. I recently owned a S5 and I'm loving it. While I'm a manual focus shooter, I would love to get my hands on the S5II/S5IIX, but for now, I'm gonna keep my S5, and wait for the right moment. Now that Panasonic actually can bring a good competitive AF to their bodies, only wild things can happen from now on. Finally we will see Panaboy getting an interesting fight with Sony, Canon and Nikon. Olympus and Fuji are on their own leagues.
@CoalitionGaming
@CoalitionGaming Жыл бұрын
I would have considered the G85 the perfect camera (for everything I do at least) if it had this kind of autofocus. What do you guys think the odds are of Panasonic bringing the new AF tech down to a new G85 or G7 model?
@joaoborrega4594
@joaoborrega4594 Жыл бұрын
My hope for the S1 , ( stills only), is the new autofocus tech in a 37 to 40 m.pixel sensor but same image quality, same ergonomics, better weather selling on bodies and lenses, that would be spot on for me. Keep up with the fantastic job you guys, thank you.
@paulpantorilla6121
@paulpantorilla6121 Жыл бұрын
Still using a G9 and I am really excited to see what the next one brings to the table!
@g10col92
@g10col92 Жыл бұрын
Shame there is no new Panasonic GX in the lineup. Loved that small bodied M4/3 range finder style.
@nolannatashaTV
@nolannatashaTV Жыл бұрын
G9 with auto focus is my dream camera. Even after buying a sony a7iv, I look at my dusty g9 with longing.
@haulfilms
@haulfilms Жыл бұрын
I am considering the S5iix. What lens would you recommend would be best for *video* with this camera? Thanks!
@SLLYT
@SLLYT Жыл бұрын
I do hope that Panasonic will offer a true replacement with all the features of the GX8 plus hybrid autofocus.
@Samhertzog
@Samhertzog Жыл бұрын
Would personally like to see a big S1R upgrade, something to really rival the A7RV, no reason they shouldn't anymore!
@laurentyarp514
@laurentyarp514 Жыл бұрын
So many people asking for a G9 mk II. I'd second that. Come on Panasonic you can do it too ;) btw Panasonic has said recently they are working on a camera that is "small, affordable and mobile". So, there's hope for new good surprises.
@vaskoobscura_
@vaskoobscura_ Жыл бұрын
There is a ton of banding on the brown wall behind you? Is that an issue with the S5II or is that user error? On another note looks like Fuji and Leica are the odd ones out with bad AF. I'm really excited for this change. I used to use an G9 loved the camera hated the AF so I guess the door to Lumix might be opening up again.
@dpreview
@dpreview Жыл бұрын
KZfaq compression. The banding does not appear in the captured footage. -Jordan
@snowcat20
@snowcat20 Жыл бұрын
A year and some months ago I've switched from Sony, Nikon and Fuji to one camera system - Panasonic S1R. It is a fantastic camera! It's IQ is unprecedented and is extremely close to MF cameras! That 47Mp sensor gives extremely nice photos! I hope S1r gets its continuation! I'll wait for it.
@-grey
@-grey Жыл бұрын
GM1 or the GX850 line with PDAF would be a game changer for me. A pocket rocket with the 12mm, 14mm, or 17mm? Yes.
@kaptnwelpe5322
@kaptnwelpe5322 Жыл бұрын
GM1 did lack the click wheel of the GF1/2 or GX1. Bet they could have included that or a lever which emulares the wheelin conjunction with a button to switch the levers function - but it was a marketing decision not to do so.... . But I agree:: Pana has NO clue how many people want their SMALL bodies back. Should just take a look at ebay prices for those who have a LCD in near mint condition...
@-grey
@-grey Жыл бұрын
@@kaptnwelpe5322 even fujifilm doesn't know how much we want small cameras back. And they pretend they're the small camera people. Upgrade my X70 to an X70S or even bring the X-M1 back, at least. I wish Canon wouldn't abandon the M6II and M200 body also.
@josecabral2726
@josecabral2726 Жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to see what’s in stored for the next Leica SL cameras.
@ryanthomas9306
@ryanthomas9306 Жыл бұрын
Put phase detect on gh5, and I’ll use it for my house hold videos. I really liked micro 4/3, just not the focus. That’s pretty much why I’m with Fuji/Sony
@eppietimisela7118
@eppietimisela7118 Жыл бұрын
Finally Panasonic has the Phase detection autofucus. Just a week ago I decided to buy the GH6 but I might aswell go for the S5II as it has the long waited Phase detection. I think its worth the money or maybe I should wait for the Panasonic G9II? Nice review guys!
@ryanthomas9306
@ryanthomas9306 Жыл бұрын
This kinda makes me excited Gh5 with phase detect and a new 18-35 1.8 Dream
@titouyou1
@titouyou1 Жыл бұрын
Interesting. Thanks guys. As a S5 owner I was just wondering if we’re going to get any significant improvements from the firmware updates or not ?
@MikeLindup42
@MikeLindup42 Жыл бұрын
Would love Panny to be the comeback kid of the 20’s.
@karikaru
@karikaru Жыл бұрын
I've seen a lot of people hoping for an s5iiR. It would probably blow the cost up but if you could get a stacked 33mp sensor on there capable of 15fps mechanical burst, 8k video, and give it a tilty screen and upgraded evf - think you'd have a real hit especially paired with 150-600 for sports or that ultra sharp 85 1.8 for portraits.
@thebentzenable
@thebentzenable Жыл бұрын
I love G9 and would love a new version 🥰 I am Selling my A7iii to get the S5iiX 🙏👌
@orange42
@orange42 Жыл бұрын
Just had a weekend doing sports photos and the S5 doubles the keepers from what the GH5 would manage. So much more dynamic range too. S5ii is definitely another move in the right direction.
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