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Dr. Jagman Gurung is a historian, author, and lecturer on Nepali culture. He is a recipient of various national awards for his work related to the culture and history of Nepal. He was also the vice-chancellor of Nepal Academy. In this podcast, he talks about Kirat History, Newars, Politics, Civilizations, Tantra, and more.
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@aniruddha129
@aniruddha129 10 күн бұрын
Dr. Gurung's information is very interesting. It might be difficult for people who have lost their dharma and imitating the west to grasp such insightful and mystical message. It is unfortunate when even the west are starting to practice sanatana dharma but the original practitioners of the east are deeming it as a myth or a laughable matter.
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How Rai and Limbus Claim False Association with Rich Tribes to Legitimize Their Own False History Throughout history, the Rai and Limbus communities have been known for their resourcefulness and adaptability in various regions of South Asia. However, there has been a growing concern that these communities have often engaged in fabricating associations with richer and more prosperous tribes such as the Newars, Lepchas, Bodos, Meches, Tharus, and others. This alleged fabrication is seen as an effort to legitimize their historical claims and to integrate more seamlessly into these regions. The complexities surrounding these claims raise significant questions about historical authenticity, ethnic identity, and inter-community relations. Historical Background of Rai and Limbus The Rai and Limbus communities trace their roots back to regions influenced by the Mongol expansions. Historical evidence suggests that they migrated from Sichuan, China, to Northern Tibet and eventually settled in parts of Nepal and Sikkim during the 13th century. Seeking refuge from the Mongol conquests, these groups were welcomed by the Sen Thakuris and the Lepcha tribe. Over time, they adapted to their new environments, forming unique cultural identities. Despite their integration, the Rai and Limbus communities have faced challenges in asserting their legitimacy and historical roots in these new regions. This has led to efforts to fabricate connections with more affluent and historically established tribes. The Quest for Legitimacy through Fabrication One of the most significant accusations against the Rai and Limbus is their attempt to fabricate associations with the ancient Kirat people. This identity encompasses several indigenous groups of the Himalayan region, including the prosperous Newars, Lepchas, Bodos, Meches, and Tharus. By claiming a shared Kirat ancestry, the Rai and Limbus hope to embed themselves within the historical and cultural narratives of these regions. The Newar Connection The Newars, an affluent community with a rich cultural heritage in the Kathmandu Valley, have been a prime target for these fabricated associations. The Newars' sophisticated urban culture and historical prominence make them an attractive ally for the Rai and Limbus. By claiming historical ties to the Newars, the Rai and Limbus seek to elevate their own status and justify their presence in Newar territories. However, the Newars, with their distinct linguistic and cultural identity, have little in common with the migratory history of the Rai and Limbus. This lack of historical evidence supporting the connection has led to skepticism and tension within the Newar community itself. Encroaching on Lepcha and Bhutia Land In Sikkim and parts of West Bengal, the Lepchas, considered the original inhabitants, have a rich cultural heritage. The Rai and Limbus have sought to align themselves with the Lepchas by claiming a shared Kirat ancestry. This association is used to justify their migration into Lepcha territories and assert their rights over land and resources. This fabricated connection has exacerbated conflicts between the Lepcha and Bhutia communities in India. The Bhutias, another significant ethnic group in Sikkim, have been drawn into disputes over land and heritage, partly fueled by the Rai and Limbus' claims. These actions have contributed to ethnic discord and instability in the region. Infiltrating Assam and Meghalaya In Assam and Meghalaya, the Bodos, Meches, and other indigenous tribes have faced similar claims from the Rai and Limbus. By asserting a Kirat identity, the Rai and Limbus attempt to integrate into these regions and gain access to land and opportunities traditionally reserved for indigenous groups. Recent ethnic violence in Assam, which has seen clashes between various tribal groups, has been partly fueled by the false claims and associations made by the Rai and Limbus. Their attempts to insert themselves into the socio-political fabric of Assam have led to increased competition for resources and heightened ethnic tensions. The Role of the Khas and Tharus In Nepal, the Khas Aryas and Tharus have also been drawn into the web of fabricated associations. The Rai and Limbus, by claiming a historical connection with these communities, seek to expand their territorial claims and secure a place within the broader socio-political landscape of Nepal. The Tharus, with their unique cultural practices and historical ties to the Terai region, have found little in common with the Rai and Limbus. The Tharus, primarily of Indo-Aryan descent, have distinct cultural and linguistic identities that do not align with the Kirat narrative. This further underscores the opportunistic nature of the fabricated Kirat identity. Furthermore, the fabricated associations have led to tensions between the Tharus and the Madhesis, another significant community in the Terai region. The Rai and Limbus' attempts to assert their presence have exacerbated existing conflicts over land and resources, further destabilizing the region. Consequences of Fabrication The alleged fabrication of associations by the Rai and Limbus has significant implications for the regions they inhabit. These actions have led to increased competition for resources, heightened ethnic tensions, and challenges to the historical narratives of indigenous communities. The quest for legitimacy by the Rai and Limbus, while understandable from a socio-economic perspective, has often come at the expense of the established rights and identities of other tribes. Reevaluating Historical Narratives In light of these fabrications, it is essential to reevaluate the historical narratives surrounding the Rai and Limbus. While their need for stability and prosperity is valid, their methods of claiming indigeneity through fabricated associations raise ethical and historical concerns. Accurate historical documentation and respect for the identities of established indigenous groups are crucial in addressing these issues.
@tilakshrestha2573
@tilakshrestha2573 5 күн бұрын
Prof. Jagaman Jee ko Jaya hosh!
@SandeshKushwaha-tl2fd
@SandeshKushwaha-tl2fd 3 күн бұрын
How Rai and Limbus Claim False Association with Rich Tribes to Legitimize Their Own False History Throughout history, the Rai and Limbus communities have been known for their resourcefulness and adaptability in various regions of South Asia. However, there has been a growing concern that these communities have often engaged in fabricating associations with richer and more prosperous tribes such as the Newars, Lepchas, Bodos, Meches, Tharus, and others. This alleged fabrication is seen as an effort to legitimize their historical claims and to integrate more seamlessly into these regions. The complexities surrounding these claims raise significant questions about historical authenticity, ethnic identity, and inter-community relations. Historical Background of Rai and Limbus The Rai and Limbus communities trace their roots back to regions influenced by the Mongol expansions. Historical evidence suggests that they migrated from Sichuan, China, to Northern Tibet and eventually settled in parts of Nepal and Sikkim during the 13th century. Seeking refuge from the Mongol conquests, these groups were welcomed by the Sen Thakuris and the Lepcha tribe. Over time, they adapted to their new environments, forming unique cultural identities. Despite their integration, the Rai and Limbus communities have faced challenges in asserting their legitimacy and historical roots in these new regions. This has led to efforts to fabricate connections with more affluent and historically established tribes. The Quest for Legitimacy through Fabrication One of the most significant accusations against the Rai and Limbus is their attempt to fabricate associations with the ancient Kirat people. This identity encompasses several indigenous groups of the Himalayan region, including the prosperous Newars, Lepchas, Bodos, Meches, and Tharus. By claiming a shared Kirat ancestry, the Rai and Limbus hope to embed themselves within the historical and cultural narratives of these regions. The Newar Connection The Newars, an affluent community with a rich cultural heritage in the Kathmandu Valley, have been a prime target for these fabricated associations. The Newars' sophisticated urban culture and historical prominence make them an attractive ally for the Rai and Limbus. By claiming historical ties to the Newars, the Rai and Limbus seek to elevate their own status and justify their presence in Newar territories. However, the Newars, with their distinct linguistic and cultural identity, have little in common with the migratory history of the Rai and Limbus. This lack of historical evidence supporting the connection has led to skepticism and tension within the Newar community itself. Encroaching on Lepcha and Bhutia Land In Sikkim and parts of West Bengal, the Lepchas, considered the original inhabitants, have a rich cultural heritage. The Rai and Limbus have sought to align themselves with the Lepchas by claiming a shared Kirat ancestry. This association is used to justify their migration into Lepcha territories and assert their rights over land and resources. This fabricated connection has exacerbated conflicts between the Lepcha and Bhutia communities in India. The Bhutias, another significant ethnic group in Sikkim, have been drawn into disputes over land and heritage, partly fueled by the Rai and Limbus' claims. These actions have contributed to ethnic discord and instability in the region. Infiltrating Assam and Meghalaya In Assam and Meghalaya, the Bodos, Meches, and other indigenous tribes have faced similar claims from the Rai and Limbus. By asserting a Kirat identity, the Rai and Limbus attempt to integrate into these regions and gain access to land and opportunities traditionally reserved for indigenous groups. Recent ethnic violence in Assam, which has seen clashes between various tribal groups, has been partly fueled by the false claims and associations made by the Rai and Limbus. Their attempts to insert themselves into the socio-political fabric of Assam have led to increased competition for resources and heightened ethnic tensions. The Role of the Khas and Tharus In Nepal, the Khas Aryas and Tharus have also been drawn into the web of fabricated associations. The Rai and Limbus, by claiming a historical connection with these communities, seek to expand their territorial claims and secure a place within the broader socio-political landscape of Nepal. The Tharus, with their unique cultural practices and historical ties to the Terai region, have found little in common with the Rai and Limbus. The Tharus, primarily of Indo-Aryan descent, have distinct cultural and linguistic identities that do not align with the Kirat narrative. This further underscores the opportunistic nature of the fabricated Kirat identity. Furthermore, the fabricated associations have led to tensions between the Tharus and the Madhesis, another significant community in the Terai region. The Rai and Limbus' attempts to assert their presence have exacerbated existing conflicts over land and resources, further destabilizing the region. Consequences of Fabrication The alleged fabrication of associations by the Rai and Limbus has significant implications for the regions they inhabit. These actions have led to increased competition for resources, heightened ethnic tensions, and challenges to the historical narratives of indigenous communities. The quest for legitimacy by the Rai and Limbus, while understandable from a socio-economic perspective, has often come at the expense of the established rights and identities of other tribes. Reevaluating Historical Narratives In light of these fabrications, it is essential to reevaluate the historical narratives surrounding the Rai and Limbus. While their need for stability and prosperity is valid, their methods of claiming indigeneity through fabricated associations raise ethical and historical concerns. Accurate historical documentation and respect for the identities of established indigenous groups are crucial in addressing these issues.
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The Limbus assisted the British in their invasion of eastern Nepal, leveraging their intimate knowledge of the rugged terrain and local conditions. Despite their efforts, the British found the invasion challenging due to fierce resistance from the Gorkha soldiers. Although the British managed to secure some territories, including Kumaon and Garhwal, they were not particularly impressed with the Limbus' contributions, which fell short of their expectations. This initial phase of cooperation left the British somewhat dissatisfied with the Limbus. The Limbus' Role in Making Sikkim a British Protectorate Despite the initial disappointment, the strategic significance of the Himalayan region kept the British interested in forming alliances with local groups. The Limbus, recognizing another opportunity, shifted their focus to Sikkim and Darjeeling. Their deep understanding of the region’s political and geographical intricacies proved invaluable to the British. In 1835, the British secured the Darjeeling region from the Kingdom of Sikkim, with significant help from the Limbus. The British aimed to establish a hill station in Darjeeling, and the Limbus' cooperation was crucial in navigating local politics. Their efforts were more appreciated this time, as the British began to recognize the strategic importance of their alliance with the Limbus. The culmination of this alliance came in 1861 when the Limbus assisted the British in making Sikkim a protectorate. The Kingdom of Sikkim, weakened by internal strife and external threats, was vulnerable. The Limbus played a key role in facilitating negotiations and ensuring that British interests were met, thus solidifying Sikkim’s status as a British protectorate. British Rewards and the Betrayal of the Gorkhas The British, acknowledging the Limbus' critical role in their successes in Darjeeling and Sikkim, rewarded them with land grants and a degree of autonomy within British-controlled territories. This marked a significant shift in the relationship between the Limbus and the British, highlighting the Limbus' strategic value in the region. However, this alliance with the British was seen as a betrayal by the Gorkhas, their historical rulers. This act of betrayal further strained relationships between different ethnic groups in the region, creating a legacy of mistrust and division. The British, adept at exploiting such divisions, used the Limbus' betrayal to weaken Gorkha influence and consolidate their control over the Himalayan territories. Starting in 1914, the British began recruiting the Limbus as Gurkha mercenaries. This recruitment was a testament to the trust and value the British placed in the Limbus after their strategic contributions. Serving in the British Indian Army, the Limbus found new opportunities and recognition, further solidifying their alliance with the British.
@nepaliwarrior2746
@nepaliwarrior2746 5 күн бұрын
Your claims are nothing but a poorly constructed attempt to distort history. The Limbus and Rais have deep-rooted histories in Nepal that are backed by substantial evidence. Calling them "refugees" shows your lack of understanding and disregard for factual history. Here are some points to set the record straight: Archaeological Evidence: There are stone inscriptions, relics, and artifacts across Eastern Nepal dating back centuries, indicating the presence of Kirati tribes, including the Limbus. For instance, remnants of fortifications and iron tools have been found near the Kathmandu Valley, dating to the suspected Kirati dynasty era. Cultural Contributions: The Limbus have a rich cultural heritage that includes distinct languages, traditions, and practices, which have been maintained for generations. Their script, Sirijonga, and oral scriptures, Mundhum, reflect a well-established civilization long before British intervention. Historical Records: Various Licchavi records and Newari chronicles reference the "Kirata" tribes ruling the Kathmandu Valley before the Licchavi dynasty, indicating the historical presence and influence of the Limbus. Brahmin Migration: Contrary to your accusations, it is well-documented that the Brahmins migrated to the hills from Bihar after the Mughal invasion, making them the actual refugees who later attempted to dominate and erase indigenous cultures. Your baseless accusations and attempts to rewrite history are not only misleading but also disrespectful to the rich heritage of the Limbus and Rais. The Limbus' cooperation with the British, like the involvement of many other communities during colonial times, was a strategic move in a complex historical context, not a mark of betrayal or fabrication. Stop spreading lies and educate yourself with facts before making such inflammatory statements.
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@SandeshKushwaha-tl2fd
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@@nepaliwarrior2746 How Rai and Limbus Claim False Association with Rich Tribes to Legitimize Their Own False History Throughout history, the Rai and Limbus communities have been known for their resourcefulness and adaptability in various regions of South Asia. However, there has been a growing concern that these communities have often engaged in fabricating associations with richer and more prosperous tribes such as the Newars, Lepchas, Bodos, Meches, Tharus, and others. This alleged fabrication is seen as an effort to legitimize their historical claims and to integrate more seamlessly into these regions. The complexities surrounding these claims raise significant questions about historical authenticity, ethnic identity, and inter-community relations. Historical Background of Rai and Limbus The Rai and Limbus communities trace their roots back to regions influenced by the Mongol expansions. Historical evidence suggests that they migrated from Sichuan, China, to Northern Tibet and eventually settled in parts of Nepal and Sikkim during the 13th century. Seeking refuge from the Mongol conquests, these groups were welcomed by the Sen Thakuris and the Lepcha tribe. Over time, they adapted to their new environments, forming unique cultural identities. Despite their integration, the Rai and Limbus communities have faced challenges in asserting their legitimacy and historical roots in these new regions. This has led to efforts to fabricate connections with more affluent and historically established tribes. The Quest for Legitimacy through Fabrication One of the most significant accusations against the Rai and Limbus is their attempt to fabricate associations with the ancient Kirat people. This identity encompasses several indigenous groups of the Himalayan region, including the prosperous Newars, Lepchas, Bodos, Meches, and Tharus. By claiming a shared Kirat ancestry, the Rai and Limbus hope to embed themselves within the historical and cultural narratives of these regions. The Newar Connection The Newars, an affluent community with a rich cultural heritage in the Kathmandu Valley, have been a prime target for these fabricated associations. The Newars' sophisticated urban culture and historical prominence make them an attractive ally for the Rai and Limbus. By claiming historical ties to the Newars, the Rai and Limbus seek to elevate their own status and justify their presence in Newar territories. However, the Newars, with their distinct linguistic and cultural identity, have little in common with the migratory history of the Rai and Limbus. This lack of historical evidence supporting the connection has led to skepticism and tension within the Newar community itself. Encroaching on Lepcha and Bhutia Land In Sikkim and parts of West Bengal, the Lepchas, considered the original inhabitants, have a rich cultural heritage. The Rai and Limbus have sought to align themselves with the Lepchas by claiming a shared Kirat ancestry. This association is used to justify their migration into Lepcha territories and assert their rights over land and resources. This fabricated connection has exacerbated conflicts between the Lepcha and Bhutia communities in India. The Bhutias, another significant ethnic group in Sikkim, have been drawn into disputes over land and heritage, partly fueled by the Rai and Limbus' claims. These actions have contributed to ethnic discord and instability in the region. Infiltrating Assam and Meghalaya In Assam and Meghalaya, the Bodos, Meches, and other indigenous tribes have faced similar claims from the Rai and Limbus. By asserting a Kirat identity, the Rai and Limbus attempt to integrate into these regions and gain access to land and opportunities traditionally reserved for indigenous groups. Recent ethnic violence in Assam, which has seen clashes between various tribal groups, has been partly fueled by the false claims and associations made by the Rai and Limbus. Their attempts to insert themselves into the socio-political fabric of Assam have led to increased competition for resources and heightened ethnic tensions. The Role of the Khas and Tharus In Nepal, the Khas Aryas and Tharus have also been drawn into the web of fabricated associations. The Rai and Limbus, by claiming a historical connection with these communities, seek to expand their territorial claims and secure a place within the broader socio-political landscape of Nepal. The Tharus, with their unique cultural practices and historical ties to the Terai region, have found little in common with the Rai and Limbus. The Tharus, primarily of Indo-Aryan descent, have distinct cultural and linguistic identities that do not align with the Kirat narrative. This further underscores the opportunistic nature of the fabricated Kirat identity. Furthermore, the fabricated associations have led to tensions between the Tharus and the Madhesis, another significant community in the Terai region. The Rai and Limbus' attempts to assert their presence have exacerbated existing conflicts over land and resources, further destabilizing the region. Consequences of Fabrication The alleged fabrication of associations by the Rai and Limbus has significant implications for the regions they inhabit. These actions have led to increased competition for resources, heightened ethnic tensions, and challenges to the historical narratives of indigenous communities. The quest for legitimacy by the Rai and Limbus, while understandable from a socio-economic perspective, has often come at the expense of the established rights and identities of other tribes. Reevaluating Historical Narratives In light of these fabrications, it is essential to reevaluate the historical narratives surrounding the Rai and Limbus. While their need for stability and prosperity is valid, their methods of claiming indigeneity through fabricated associations raise ethical and historical concerns. Accurate historical documentation and respect for the identities of established indigenous groups are crucial in addressing these issues.
@bibasshrestha6905
@bibasshrestha6905 4 күн бұрын
Living legend of Nepal 🙏🙏🙏
@mohammadasifrazakhan5557
@mohammadasifrazakhan5557 10 күн бұрын
Jai gorakhnath jai bhairavi devi
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@someXone
@someXone 10 күн бұрын
Where did he talked about balen in this video. Is it clickbait ?
@sumitshrestha726
@sumitshrestha726 10 күн бұрын
3:15
@Madan_pats
@Madan_pats 4 күн бұрын
Tantra and yantra doesn't feel same, it's not that's concerning
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@denizmoktan 4 күн бұрын
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@Sgt.Slaughter
@Sgt.Slaughter 4 күн бұрын
Make nepal sanatan rashtra again! Prithivi narayan shah used tantra frequently in battles!
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How Rai and Limbus Claim False Association with Rich Tribes to Legitimize Their Own False History Throughout history, the Rai and Limbus communities have been known for their resourcefulness and adaptability in various regions of South Asia. However, there has been a growing concern that these communities have often engaged in fabricating associations with richer and more prosperous tribes such as the Newars, Lepchas, Bodos, Meches, Tharus, and others. This alleged fabrication is seen as an effort to legitimize their historical claims and to integrate more seamlessly into these regions. The complexities surrounding these claims raise significant questions about historical authenticity, ethnic identity, and inter-community relations. Historical Background of Rai and Limbus The Rai and Limbus communities trace their roots back to regions influenced by the Mongol expansions. Historical evidence suggests that they migrated from Sichuan, China, to Northern Tibet and eventually settled in parts of Nepal and Sikkim during the 13th century. Seeking refuge from the Mongol conquests, these groups were welcomed by the Sen Thakuris and the Lepcha tribe. Over time, they adapted to their new environments, forming unique cultural identities. Despite their integration, the Rai and Limbus communities have faced challenges in asserting their legitimacy and historical roots in these new regions. This has led to efforts to fabricate connections with more affluent and historically established tribes. The Quest for Legitimacy through Fabrication One of the most significant accusations against the Rai and Limbus is their attempt to fabricate associations with the ancient Kirat people. This identity encompasses several indigenous groups of the Himalayan region, including the prosperous Newars, Lepchas, Bodos, Meches, and Tharus. By claiming a shared Kirat ancestry, the Rai and Limbus hope to embed themselves within the historical and cultural narratives of these regions. The Newar Connection The Newars, an affluent community with a rich cultural heritage in the Kathmandu Valley, have been a prime target for these fabricated associations. The Newars' sophisticated urban culture and historical prominence make them an attractive ally for the Rai and Limbus. By claiming historical ties to the Newars, the Rai and Limbus seek to elevate their own status and justify their presence in Newar territories. However, the Newars, with their distinct linguistic and cultural identity, have little in common with the migratory history of the Rai and Limbus. This lack of historical evidence supporting the connection has led to skepticism and tension within the Newar community itself. Encroaching on Lepcha and Bhutia Land In Sikkim and parts of West Bengal, the Lepchas, considered the original inhabitants, have a rich cultural heritage. The Rai and Limbus have sought to align themselves with the Lepchas by claiming a shared Kirat ancestry. This association is used to justify their migration into Lepcha territories and assert their rights over land and resources. This fabricated connection has exacerbated conflicts between the Lepcha and Bhutia communities in India. The Bhutias, another significant ethnic group in Sikkim, have been drawn into disputes over land and heritage, partly fueled by the Rai and Limbus' claims. These actions have contributed to ethnic discord and instability in the region. Infiltrating Assam and Meghalaya In Assam and Meghalaya, the Bodos, Meches, and other indigenous tribes have faced similar claims from the Rai and Limbus. By asserting a Kirat identity, the Rai and Limbus attempt to integrate into these regions and gain access to land and opportunities traditionally reserved for indigenous groups. Recent ethnic violence in Assam, which has seen clashes between various tribal groups, has been partly fueled by the false claims and associations made by the Rai and Limbus. Their attempts to insert themselves into the socio-political fabric of Assam have led to increased competition for resources and heightened ethnic tensions. The Role of the Khas and Tharus In Nepal, the Khas Aryas and Tharus have also been drawn into the web of fabricated associations. The Rai and Limbus, by claiming a historical connection with these communities, seek to expand their territorial claims and secure a place within the broader socio-political landscape of Nepal. The Tharus, with their unique cultural practices and historical ties to the Terai region, have found little in common with the Rai and Limbus. The Tharus, primarily of Indo-Aryan descent, have distinct cultural and linguistic identities that do not align with the Kirat narrative. This further underscores the opportunistic nature of the fabricated Kirat identity. Furthermore, the fabricated associations have led to tensions between the Tharus and the Madhesis, another significant community in the Terai region. The Rai and Limbus' attempts to assert their presence have exacerbated existing conflicts over land and resources, further destabilizing the region. Consequences of Fabrication The alleged fabrication of associations by the Rai and Limbus has significant implications for the regions they inhabit. These actions have led to increased competition for resources, heightened ethnic tensions, and challenges to the historical narratives of indigenous communities. The quest for legitimacy by the Rai and Limbus, while understandable from a socio-economic perspective, has often come at the expense of the established rights and identities of other tribes. Reevaluating Historical Narratives In light of these fabrications, it is essential to reevaluate the historical narratives surrounding the Rai and Limbus. While their need for stability and prosperity is valid, their methods of claiming indigeneity through fabricated associations raise ethical and historical concerns. Accurate historical documentation and respect for the identities of established indigenous groups are crucial in addressing these issues
@rune_maker
@rune_maker 5 күн бұрын
nepal is the only ancient country in the world, we need to have a cultural revival, and stop imitating the west who have no concept of dharma, we are the only civilization who have history more than 5000 years ago.
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Kathai mero Nepal - jahaa mythology ra history ko bhinna ta pani thaaha hunna! Uhile ta testai bhayo, ahile ko 21st century maa pani mythology ra history bich confused chhan!
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@RavishPatel-q2t
@RavishPatel-q2t 10 күн бұрын
The Limbus assisted the British in their invasion of eastern Nepal, leveraging their intimate knowledge of the rugged terrain and local conditions. Despite their efforts, the British found the invasion challenging due to fierce resistance from the Gorkha soldiers. Although the British managed to secure some territories, including Kumaon and Garhwal, they were not particularly impressed with the Limbus' contributions, which fell short of their expectations. This initial phase of cooperation left the British somewhat dissatisfied with the Limbus. The Limbus' Role in Making Sikkim a British Protectorate Despite the initial disappointment, the strategic significance of the Himalayan region kept the British interested in forming alliances with local groups. The Limbus, recognizing another opportunity, shifted their focus to Sikkim and Darjeeling. Their deep understanding of the region’s political and geographical intricacies proved invaluable to the British. In 1835, the British secured the Darjeeling region from the Kingdom of Sikkim, with significant help from the Limbus. The British aimed to establish a hill station in Darjeeling, and the Limbus' cooperation was crucial in navigating local politics. Their efforts were more appreciated this time, as the British began to recognize the strategic importance of their alliance with the Limbus. The culmination of this alliance came in 1861 when the Limbus assisted the British in making Sikkim a protectorate. The Kingdom of Sikkim, weakened by internal strife and external threats, was vulnerable. The Limbus played a key role in facilitating negotiations and ensuring that British interests were met, thus solidifying Sikkim’s status as a British protectorate. British Rewards and the Betrayal of the Gorkhas The British, acknowledging the Limbus' critical role in their successes in Darjeeling and Sikkim, rewarded them with land grants and a degree of autonomy within British-controlled territories. This marked a significant shift in the relationship between the Limbus and the British, highlighting the Limbus' strategic value in the region. However, this alliance with the British was seen as a betrayal by the Gorkhas, their historical rulers. This act of betrayal further strained relationships between different ethnic groups in the region, creating a legacy of mistrust and division. The British, adept at exploiting such divisions, used the Limbus' betrayal to weaken Gorkha influence and consolidate their control over the Himalayan territories. Starting in 1914, the British began recruiting the Limbus as Gurkha mercenaries. This recruitment was a testament to the trust and value the British placed in the Limbus after their strategic contributions. Serving in the British Indian Army, the Limbus found new opportunities and recognition, further solidifying their alliance with the British.
@better4186
@better4186 8 күн бұрын
yei ta ho ignorance vneko... 21st century vndaima kei mani bishwash nai nagarnu hainani... j kura bujhdainau tyo kura xadai xaina vnera ignorant banne hoinanita....
@prabhuewai9905
@prabhuewai9905 8 күн бұрын
​@@user-lx1oe9rd3qBoli baata thaaha hunchha tero sanskar ra star. Mythology laai mythology bhanda kina talaai kina ris uthnu? Satya man pardaina?
@prabhuewai9905
@prabhuewai9905 8 күн бұрын
​@@better4186mythology laai mythology bhannu ignorance haina, intelligence ho, rationalism ho. Mythology laai history bhannu, factual maannu ignorance ho
@Dong_Santosh
@Dong_Santosh 9 күн бұрын
Hawa kura budo
@pawanbshah3980
@pawanbshah3980 10 күн бұрын
Yo muji Buda hawa ho ! Ka ko doctorate ho kuni ? 100 percent ma 2 percent kura tikh garcha
@RavishPatel-q2t
@RavishPatel-q2t 10 күн бұрын
The Limbus assisted the British in their invasion of eastern Nepal, leveraging their intimate knowledge of the rugged terrain and local conditions. Despite their efforts, the British found the invasion challenging due to fierce resistance from the Gorkha soldiers. Although the British managed to secure some territories, including Kumaon and Garhwal, they were not particularly impressed with the Limbus' contributions, which fell short of their expectations. This initial phase of cooperation left the British somewhat dissatisfied with the Limbus. The Limbus' Role in Making Sikkim a British Protectorate Despite the initial disappointment, the strategic significance of the Himalayan region kept the British interested in forming alliances with local groups. The Limbus, recognizing another opportunity, shifted their focus to Sikkim and Darjeeling. Their deep understanding of the region’s political and geographical intricacies proved invaluable to the British. In 1835, the British secured the Darjeeling region from the Kingdom of Sikkim, with significant help from the Limbus. The British aimed to establish a hill station in Darjeeling, and the Limbus' cooperation was crucial in navigating local politics. Their efforts were more appreciated this time, as the British began to recognize the strategic importance of their alliance with the Limbus. The culmination of this alliance came in 1861 when the Limbus assisted the British in making Sikkim a protectorate. The Kingdom of Sikkim, weakened by internal strife and external threats, was vulnerable. The Limbus played a key role in facilitating negotiations and ensuring that British interests were met, thus solidifying Sikkim’s status as a British protectorate. British Rewards and the Betrayal of the Gorkhas The British, acknowledging the Limbus' critical role in their successes in Darjeeling and Sikkim, rewarded them with land grants and a degree of autonomy within British-controlled territories. This marked a significant shift in the relationship between the Limbus and the British, highlighting the Limbus' strategic value in the region. However, this alliance with the British was seen as a betrayal by the Gorkhas, their historical rulers. This act of betrayal further strained relationships between different ethnic groups in the region, creating a legacy of mistrust and division. The British, adept at exploiting such divisions, used the Limbus' betrayal to weaken Gorkha influence and consolidate their control over the Himalayan territories. Starting in 1914, the British began recruiting the Limbus as Gurkha mercenaries. This recruitment was a testament to the trust and value the British placed in the Limbus after their strategic contributions. Serving in the British Indian Army, the Limbus found new opportunities and recognition, further solidifying their alliance with the British.
@nepaliwarrior2746
@nepaliwarrior2746 5 күн бұрын
@@RavishPatel-q2t Your claims are nothing but a poorly constructed attempt to distort history. The Limbus and Rais have deep-rooted histories in Nepal that are backed by substantial evidence. Calling them "refugees" shows your lack of understanding and disregard for factual history. Here are some points to set the record straight: Archaeological Evidence: There are stone inscriptions, relics, and artifacts across Eastern Nepal dating back centuries, indicating the presence of Kirati tribes, including the Limbus. For instance, remnants of fortifications and iron tools have been found near the Kathmandu Valley, dating to the suspected Kirati dynasty era. Cultural Contributions: The Limbus have a rich cultural heritage that includes distinct languages, traditions, and practices, which have been maintained for generations. Their script, Sirijonga, and oral scriptures, Mundhum, reflect a well-established civilization long before British intervention. Historical Records: Various Licchavi records and Newari chronicles reference the "Kirata" tribes ruling the Kathmandu Valley before the Licchavi dynasty, indicating the historical presence and influence of the Limbus. Brahmin Migration: Contrary to your accusations, it is well-documented that the Brahmins migrated to the hills from Bihar after the Mughal invasion, making them the actual refugees who later attempted to dominate and erase indigenous cultures. Your baseless accusations and attempts to rewrite history are not only misleading but also disrespectful to the rich heritage of the Limbus and Rais. The Limbus' cooperation with the British, like the involvement of many other communities during colonial times, was a strategic move in a complex historical context, not a mark of betrayal or fabrication. Stop spreading lies and educate yourself with facts before making such inflammatory statements.
@SandeshKushwaha-tl2fd
@SandeshKushwaha-tl2fd 3 күн бұрын
How Rai and Limbus Claim False Association with Rich Tribes to Legitimize Their Own False History Throughout history, the Rai and Limbus communities have been known for their resourcefulness and adaptability in various regions of South Asia. However, there has been a growing concern that these communities have often engaged in fabricating associations with richer and more prosperous tribes such as the Newars, Lepchas, Bodos, Meches, Tharus, and others. This alleged fabrication is seen as an effort to legitimize their historical claims and to integrate more seamlessly into these regions. The complexities surrounding these claims raise significant questions about historical authenticity, ethnic identity, and inter-community relations. Historical Background of Rai and Limbus The Rai and Limbus communities trace their roots back to regions influenced by the Mongol expansions. Historical evidence suggests that they migrated from Sichuan, China, to Northern Tibet and eventually settled in parts of Nepal and Sikkim during the 13th century. Seeking refuge from the Mongol conquests, these groups were welcomed by the Sen Thakuris and the Lepcha tribe. Over time, they adapted to their new environments, forming unique cultural identities. Despite their integration, the Rai and Limbus communities have faced challenges in asserting their legitimacy and historical roots in these new regions. This has led to efforts to fabricate connections with more affluent and historically established tribes. The Quest for Legitimacy through Fabrication One of the most significant accusations against the Rai and Limbus is their attempt to fabricate associations with the ancient Kirat people. This identity encompasses several indigenous groups of the Himalayan region, including the prosperous Newars, Lepchas, Bodos, Meches, and Tharus. By claiming a shared Kirat ancestry, the Rai and Limbus hope to embed themselves within the historical and cultural narratives of these regions. The Newar Connection The Newars, an affluent community with a rich cultural heritage in the Kathmandu Valley, have been a prime target for these fabricated associations. The Newars' sophisticated urban culture and historical prominence make them an attractive ally for the Rai and Limbus. By claiming historical ties to the Newars, the Rai and Limbus seek to elevate their own status and justify their presence in Newar territories. However, the Newars, with their distinct linguistic and cultural identity, have little in common with the migratory history of the Rai and Limbus. This lack of historical evidence supporting the connection has led to skepticism and tension within the Newar community itself. Encroaching on Lepcha and Bhutia Land In Sikkim and parts of West Bengal, the Lepchas, considered the original inhabitants, have a rich cultural heritage. The Rai and Limbus have sought to align themselves with the Lepchas by claiming a shared Kirat ancestry. This association is used to justify their migration into Lepcha territories and assert their rights over land and resources. This fabricated connection has exacerbated conflicts between the Lepcha and Bhutia communities in India. The Bhutias, another significant ethnic group in Sikkim, have been drawn into disputes over land and heritage, partly fueled by the Rai and Limbus' claims. These actions have contributed to ethnic discord and instability in the region. Infiltrating Assam and Meghalaya In Assam and Meghalaya, the Bodos, Meches, and other indigenous tribes have faced similar claims from the Rai and Limbus. By asserting a Kirat identity, the Rai and Limbus attempt to integrate into these regions and gain access to land and opportunities traditionally reserved for indigenous groups. Recent ethnic violence in Assam, which has seen clashes between various tribal groups, has been partly fueled by the false claims and associations made by the Rai and Limbus. Their attempts to insert themselves into the socio-political fabric of Assam have led to increased competition for resources and heightened ethnic tensions. The Role of the Khas and Tharus In Nepal, the Khas Aryas and Tharus have also been drawn into the web of fabricated associations. The Rai and Limbus, by claiming a historical connection with these communities, seek to expand their territorial claims and secure a place within the broader socio-political landscape of Nepal. The Tharus, with their unique cultural practices and historical ties to the Terai region, have found little in common with the Rai and Limbus. The Tharus, primarily of Indo-Aryan descent, have distinct cultural and linguistic identities that do not align with the Kirat narrative. This further underscores the opportunistic nature of the fabricated Kirat identity. Furthermore, the fabricated associations have led to tensions between the Tharus and the Madhesis, another significant community in the Terai region. The Rai and Limbus' attempts to assert their presence have exacerbated existing conflicts over land and resources, further destabilizing the region. Consequences of Fabrication The alleged fabrication of associations by the Rai and Limbus has significant implications for the regions they inhabit. These actions have led to increased competition for resources, heightened ethnic tensions, and challenges to the historical narratives of indigenous communities. The quest for legitimacy by the Rai and Limbus, while understandable from a socio-economic perspective, has often come at the expense of the established rights and identities of other tribes. Reevaluating Historical Narratives In light of these fabrications, it is essential to reevaluate the historical narratives surrounding the Rai and Limbus. While their need for stability and prosperity is valid, their methods of claiming indigeneity through fabricated associations raise ethical and historical concerns. Accurate historical documentation and respect for the identities of established indigenous groups are crucial in addressing these issues.
@lwangbal8397
@lwangbal8397 10 күн бұрын
Hawa buwa tantra ra mantra ko definitions de buda kura kata lagwko hawa baula
@AbcDef-gw4dg
@AbcDef-gw4dg 10 күн бұрын
Jagman gurung gives a lot of false informamtion
@SandeshKushwaha-tl2fd
@SandeshKushwaha-tl2fd 3 күн бұрын
How Rai and Limbus Claim False Association with Rich Tribes to Legitimize Their Own False History Throughout history, the Rai and Limbus communities have been known for their resourcefulness and adaptability in various regions of South Asia. However, there has been a growing concern that these communities have often engaged in fabricating associations with richer and more prosperous tribes such as the Newars, Lepchas, Bodos, Meches, Tharus, and others. This alleged fabrication is seen as an effort to legitimize their historical claims and to integrate more seamlessly into these regions. The complexities surrounding these claims raise significant questions about historical authenticity, ethnic identity, and inter-community relations. Historical Background of Rai and Limbus The Rai and Limbus communities trace their roots back to regions influenced by the Mongol expansions. Historical evidence suggests that they migrated from Sichuan, China, to Northern Tibet and eventually settled in parts of Nepal and Sikkim during the 13th century. Seeking refuge from the Mongol conquests, these groups were welcomed by the Sen Thakuris and the Lepcha tribe. Over time, they adapted to their new environments, forming unique cultural identities. Despite their integration, the Rai and Limbus communities have faced challenges in asserting their legitimacy and historical roots in these new regions. This has led to efforts to fabricate connections with more affluent and historically established tribes. The Quest for Legitimacy through Fabrication One of the most significant accusations against the Rai and Limbus is their attempt to fabricate associations with the ancient Kirat people. This identity encompasses several indigenous groups of the Himalayan region, including the prosperous Newars, Lepchas, Bodos, Meches, and Tharus. By claiming a shared Kirat ancestry, the Rai and Limbus hope to embed themselves within the historical and cultural narratives of these regions. The Newar Connection The Newars, an affluent community with a rich cultural heritage in the Kathmandu Valley, have been a prime target for these fabricated associations. The Newars' sophisticated urban culture and historical prominence make them an attractive ally for the Rai and Limbus. By claiming historical ties to the Newars, the Rai and Limbus seek to elevate their own status and justify their presence in Newar territories. However, the Newars, with their distinct linguistic and cultural identity, have little in common with the migratory history of the Rai and Limbus. This lack of historical evidence supporting the connection has led to skepticism and tension within the Newar community itself. Encroaching on Lepcha and Bhutia Land In Sikkim and parts of West Bengal, the Lepchas, considered the original inhabitants, have a rich cultural heritage. The Rai and Limbus have sought to align themselves with the Lepchas by claiming a shared Kirat ancestry. This association is used to justify their migration into Lepcha territories and assert their rights over land and resources. This fabricated connection has exacerbated conflicts between the Lepcha and Bhutia communities in India. The Bhutias, another significant ethnic group in Sikkim, have been drawn into disputes over land and heritage, partly fueled by the Rai and Limbus' claims. These actions have contributed to ethnic discord and instability in the region. Infiltrating Assam and Meghalaya In Assam and Meghalaya, the Bodos, Meches, and other indigenous tribes have faced similar claims from the Rai and Limbus. By asserting a Kirat identity, the Rai and Limbus attempt to integrate into these regions and gain access to land and opportunities traditionally reserved for indigenous groups. Recent ethnic violence in Assam, which has seen clashes between various tribal groups, has been partly fueled by the false claims and associations made by the Rai and Limbus. Their attempts to insert themselves into the socio-political fabric of Assam have led to increased competition for resources and heightened ethnic tensions. The Role of the Khas and Tharus In Nepal, the Khas Aryas and Tharus have also been drawn into the web of fabricated associations. The Rai and Limbus, by claiming a historical connection with these communities, seek to expand their territorial claims and secure a place within the broader socio-political landscape of Nepal. The Tharus, with their unique cultural practices and historical ties to the Terai region, have found little in common with the Rai and Limbus. The Tharus, primarily of Indo-Aryan descent, have distinct cultural and linguistic identities that do not align with the Kirat narrative. This further underscores the opportunistic nature of the fabricated Kirat identity. Furthermore, the fabricated associations have led to tensions between the Tharus and the Madhesis, another significant community in the Terai region. The Rai and Limbus' attempts to assert their presence have exacerbated existing conflicts over land and resources, further destabilizing the region. Consequences of Fabrication The alleged fabrication of associations by the Rai and Limbus has significant implications for the regions they inhabit. These actions have led to increased competition for resources, heightened ethnic tensions, and challenges to the historical narratives of indigenous communities. The quest for legitimacy by the Rai and Limbus, while understandable from a socio-economic perspective, has often come at the expense of the established rights and identities of other tribes. Reevaluating Historical Narratives In light of these fabrications, it is essential to reevaluate the historical narratives surrounding the Rai and Limbus. While their need for stability and prosperity is valid, their methods of claiming indigeneity through fabricated associations raise ethical and historical concerns. Accurate historical documentation and respect for the identities of established indigenous groups are crucial in addressing these issues.
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