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What I've learned is to always make sure you optimize your thyroid function FIRST before going on TRT. I was hyperthyroid and for the life of me could not figure out why I could inject 30mg 2x per week and have my total T at 2000. My SHBG was through the roof at 152 and sure enough after checking thyroid function my free T4 was 4.4 and my free T3 was 15 which is 4X above the high end of the normal range. Yes, I was experiencing all kinds of anxiety, fast resting heart rate, and feeling hot. I lost 13 pounds in 2 weeks before I pin pointed what the heck was going on. Oh, I was also doing HCG 300iu 3x weekly and turns out HCG can mimic TSH and stimulate thyroid production. In my case though, I have 2 tiny nodules on my thyroid that the endocrinologist thinks is stimulating production. So, sorry for blabbing, but my whole point is this. If you notice that you have an elevated SHBG, check your thyroid function and just don't brush it off as getting older or having liver issues. I'm 58 and that's exactly what I did despite all my liver tests coming back normal. So, I just chalked it up as getting older and blew it off until one morning I woke up with a resting heart rate of 120bpm and then drove pretty fast to the ER where they found the thyroid problem. Pay attention to your body and don't ignore how you feel. Great video!

My doctor freaked out with my total at 1400. She admits she doesn't know anything about it. Now she reduced it. I'm sick of these doctors that don't know anything . . .

I've learned more from this channel and a guy that used to be here than anywhere. Dose is irrelevant. My doc started me at 200 mgs a week. I was 220lbs, 6'2". My total T went over 2000. Free was 57. E2 was 82. I felt like crap. Anxiety so bad I could barely function. Now my dose is 98 mgs a week and that puts me at 1100 total, 21 free. Way better.

Dr. Grant and Dr. Nichols are legends.

The most important and impactful thing he said was focusing on your marriage. Focusing on each other and investing in each other will help your sex life.

I have been on TRT for 14 months now. I research all the time, because I just want to optimize how I feel. This is the best, most informative, video I have seen yet. Thank you so much!

Great info & conversation. Easy to follow the open ‘expert’. Not too defensive as others can be. Easy to listen to Jordan. In my view he cares about the right things.

Excellent content ; suggestions and recommendations. I’m 52 and have been on TRT for 2 years and my dose has been reduced ; because I changed my lifestyle and diet !!! I went from 100mg/wk to almost half - 60mg/wk. my total T is 747 ng/dl. Nutritional foods ; organic ; grass fed; and avoid plastics.

You guys are great!!! Please keep TRT out there, thank you so much! And for those who bad mouth the cream, it works incredibly for me!

After 1 year on injections with a doc who has not dod labs once...I'm ready to start cream and do my own labs.

Thank you Dr Devos for your dedication to educating us on trt and hormone optimization.

Congrats both of you for this excellent podcast 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Thank you very helpful as a new HRT man

great stuff as always!

Dr grant was my doctor when he lived in Louisiana. Was a breath of fresh air after dealing with practitioners for years that didn’t understand treatment. I’m curious about his switch to topical as he said it made him feel better and reduced “brain fog”. I’m currently in a total of 130 mg per week injectable split in 3 doses. Was wondering if he uses a compounded cream or switched to something like androgel. Also, does he have a conversion in swapping from injectable to topical that actually seems to be comparable.

Great stuff, thank you so much guys! 👍🏻

Interesting how everything Jordan says makes him feel better on the cream was the opposite for me. When I switched to injection I got better clarity, sleep and steady energy. As he says, everyone is different.

Just a note that if one is on HCG that will raise their testosterone slightly so in the end they might get away with a lower TRT does.

Well, my total T was like ~340 ng/dL and I barely hit ~570 ng/dL with Nebido (4ml per month). Now switched to Sustanon 1ml / week and will do a new test soon to check my levels.

Great video & breakdown appreciate your work

Dr. Grant is awesome! He started me on the cream with 2 clicks in the morning and if I wanted to try it, one click in the evening. Unfortunately, the cream didn't agree with me and left me with a raw and chapped ass. :(

Great Video Steven !!! Very Informative..

I'm on 5ml which I guess is 50mg ??? once a week, My numbers are from memory 569 and I feel good started at 239 I would like to see 700-900 I'm 67 yrs old, after my next check and I'm still in the 500's I might talk to the Doc about going to 100mg

Well I can't get the cream. All my doctor says is the Androgel or injections. Does anybody find relief from the gel? Is there a percentage of the whole for its effectiveness? Anyway, that's what I chose for the first quarter which starts this week. I had to go through 5 doctors just to get that far. Not sure what the big deal is. Great discussion.

I'm dating a young lady half my age with a high libido and mine went through the roof.

So I'm 52 and train 3 to 4 days a week and my test results came back at total 454mg/dl and free at 16.1ng/dl and the lab is say my free is high....smh I've felt like 💩 for the past 4 years living off caffeine and energy drinks forcing myself to train.

Unfortunatelly cream didn't work for me. I take 400mg daily, 4 pumps a day and my free T is 22 ng/L and I feel angry a lot, but no other benefit, and it's expensive in Canada to stay in the long term.

What is 2 clicks of cream in mg testosterone? That was not well explained

Hi Dr Devos. Can you tell me how up to date is your e-book “The Ultimate Guide to Cream”? Are there newer cream products available (such as 300mg, etc.) that did not make it into the book? Thanks, Darrin

using 50mg in the am and 50mg in pm trans scrotal 20% compounded cream my total is around 700 ng/dl and free T is 173 2 hrs after application. I live at high elevation 11,000 feet and my hematocrit was getting too high around 60. I'm trying to find the lowest effective dose. Has anyone taken only 1 dose a day as opposed to 2. I worry that the half life is so short that only one dose would have my levels too low before my next dose.

I have periferal artery disease in my legs is test going to affect this in any way

My Endo prescribed my 80mg a week and my blood levels average 550 to 600. I asked him if I could try 100mg a week and he said it was risky. It sounds like most guys get prescribed a lot more. Anyone know a doctor in the Dayton Ohio area that is more in line with you guys?

If the cream wasn't so expensive I would use it. Testosterone is so cheap the mark up is insane.

I'm 65 and on 160 mg test cyp per week 80mg twice a week. Also hcg twice a week. 1035 total test 222 free test. Feel great but BP a bit high and libido very Inconsistent. Why is libido not so good and not holding an erection for long even on Cialis. ? Thick blood high BP ?

I made the mistake i drew blood after the shot my level was 1506 ng dl

Whats jordans full trt protocol?

50 MG is not low .

what is your clinic?

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You are talking about injecting 1 or twice a week or even every day. What about Nebido, is that total BS since injected like every 3 months?

Doc what about the minority of men that don’t aromatize enough on trt ? For example on 175mg per week my e2 is 11. Total t was 880 day 6 post injection. Should I just crank my dose up ?

Is Dr Devos only on TRT? 😂

A doctor that dosen't undestand chemistry...

Just looking for a explanation, if there is one 🫣 I'm 56 on 50mg every 5days. All my blood tests are within normal limits except LDL cholesterol 5.46mmol/L. Libido is fine but erections are bad. doctor wanted to put me on a statin. Can anyone give me some advice or point me in the right direction of information 🙏 thanks in advance