One of most fascinating conversations on Pgurus channel. Dr S Kalyanaramanji comes across as a shining example of an ideal Indian scientist, He is how a guardian of Past and a master of the future ought to be. It’s imperative for our Bharatheeya scientists not to let go of our Dharmic roots and value system, while researching for any thing under the sun and beyond . More the modern science evolves, more the people of the modern world are able to extract the juices or Harvest, the seeds sowed by our great Rishis. Thankyou Shree Iyerji for the channel. I have hit the bell icon. ಏಷ ಧರ್ಮಃ ಸನಾತನಃ

I feel so sad that we did not get this knowledge in our text books. Just glorification of invaders. Please someone re write our history.

Dr Kalyanaraman is brilliant and deserves a Bharat Ratna for this work alone. Its implications for India and the identity of Indians is too great for words

This is the best PGuru interview ever. It has ignited a fire in me to know more about my Civilization.

That was absolutely fascinating.The isotopic analysis unequivocally establishing the Provenance of Copper from Khetri ,Rajasthan was a great revelation.Thailand has Tin .It indeed makes sense that Bharat had a lot of interaction with Thailand and South East Asia probably with Malaysia ,which also has a lot of Tin deposits..We are yet to crack the metallurgical secret as to how the Iron Pillar in Delhi remains Rust Free!.There is absolutely no doubt that much more than the GDP contribution,Bharat had contributed Science &Technology to the ancient world...Kudos to Shri Iyer and Shri Kalayanaraman for this phenomenal session!

BRILLIANT VIDEO. I so appreciate the wisdom of Dr Kalyanaraman and his work on translating the Indus Valley Script. This is cutting edge stuff.

This is the History our children should be taught /know and be proud of

I am an ardent follower of pgurus. I wasn't aware of this most enlightening video. Hats off to both of you. ❤

MIND BOGGLING & FASCINATING REVELATION OF RIG VEDA....WHY NOTHING OF OUR ANCIENT & GLORIOUS CIVILIZATION NOT TAUGHT TO US IN THE SCHOOL AND COLLEGES ?JAI HIND

Overwhelmed at the thought of the enormity of his work and it's implications. And Elated at the possibility of getting nearer to the truth and hence justice. Heartfelt thanks.

I wish Indian TV has dedicated educational channels. These discussions should be aired to the masses. Very important to educate us about our history.

I get more insight into Indus script (and culture) from this talk than from all the academic books i've read so far! Wonderful scholarship. The importance of metal trade in ancients was large. Even Jesus was supposed by many to come from one of these metal trading families. The Greek bible tells us He was a 'Techton" which is not a carpenter, but a worker in metals and their smelting, procuring, etc. This was his father josephs trade also, and a common mid eastern occupation amongst the learned families of the time, and was how his religion spread thru his family kin ( the Desposyni, who the church of Rome mercilessly hounded and murdered, as is their way) in the immediate generations after his death, along these copper tin gold silver trade routes. well before the Church of Rome came on the scene. How did I get here? YO the metal trade of Yore.

Genius. So glad this work is being done. Dr S kalyanraman, DK Hari and Hema Hari should be given positions in state and central universities

Dr Kalyanaraman is a great pioneer of the Indus civilisation. Lovely to see him speaking in person.

Superb. Worth a lot of years in school.. proud Indian origin descendents. Of sanskriti.

This man is brilliant! A National Treasure of India.

Outstanding conversation. Dr S Kalyanaramanji explanation is truly wonderful. It's extremely unfortunate that these are not taught in indian school text books. what' s even more tragic is that no media invites Dr S Kalyanaramanji too for talk.

Dear iyer ji please do more videos with Dr. S Kalyanaraman garu sir regarding ancient Bharat......we like to hear more from him regarding our ancient history.....

Sir, could we please request Shri S Kalyanaraman to do a lecture series for us on the economic system of ancient India - settlement geography, how it worked, how they shared wealth, trade routes, education system and law system etc. Second lecture series on deciphering the pictographs on some products that our ancestors were trading in. Please Sree Iyer ji, this was a fantastic explanation and I really would love to learn more. I'm sure a lot of other viewers would love to learn more.

I have a copy of ' Indus script deciphered ' written by Shri Kalyanaraman. I would encourage everybody to get a copy if possible.

So many blessing to both of you sir! Working selflessly like modern time Rishis, for preserving the knowledge of Sanatan Dharma🙏🙏🙏💐💐💐 Why not, we are Santans of this Great Rishi Parampara!! हरि ॐ💐

Excellent presentation! All Indians will be ever so thankful, grateful to the hard work and effort you have carried out ...

Overwhelmed! Craving for more such videos. Thanks a lot P Gurus.

I am very fortunate to hear to a great person like Dr. S Kalyanaraman .... many many thanks to PGurus ....

JUST FANTASTIC! WE MUST THANK THE SOCIAL MEDIA FOR NUGGETS LIKE THIS. AND PGURUS FOR THE YEOMAN SERVICE IT IS RENDERING IN THE CAUSE OF OUR COUNTRY AND SANATHANA DHARMA.

Saraswati was flowing westwards and eastwards as could be understood from the statement...He reached a place where Saraswati was flowing eastwards....meaning familiarity of a place flowing westwords earlier...ref Srimadbhagavatam sk1 ch16 verse37th...or last verse. NAMASKARAMS TO YOU BOTH.

Fascinating, I want to know more 🤓

This is brilliant. I wish you get in touch with Rajesh Rao, I just heard him on TED talks who is trying to decipher Indus script. The way you explain it becomes clear and meaningful but strangely hard to comprehend without being explained. This is amazing.

Sir, it's really a great and enriching experience listening to this interview !! In fact, it has increased my thirst for knowing more in this stream of our ancient history !! No doubt I will be hungrily waiting for the new post on this subject !! Dandavat to you both !!

Great revelation. My gratitude to Shri Ayar and Dr Kalyanaraman for such a fascinating video. Appreciate to hear from you about the transition of Harappa/ Mahenjo Daro population to Ganges area. I still can not understand well, how such an abrupt end occurred to Harappa/ Mahenjo Daro. Also don't know, whether the Bollywood film Mahenjo Daro story line has any authenticity. Thanking you in anticipation of being privileged to see more of such video.

It's fascinating to hear about our ancient civilization and now great researchers like u sir makes it happens to show us

Thanks for sharing knowledge. The stitched boats are still popular in Konkan, Maharashtra where we have a large Jewish settlement in Alibaug dating back to the time of 1st temple destruction. सांगाडा (Sangada) in Marathi means skeleton.

Loved the video, thanks for posting

One of the best videos on PGurus - Kudos!!

Pls mention website which was talked in the beginning of the video.

Happy to hear great knowledge, immagine the happiness of achievements.

Such great information so proud of India ... need everything documented & taught in our schools

salutations to Iyerji and Sri. Kalyanaramanji. Very sorry to say that my education is of Brtish influenced one and very inadequate to even digest what has been explained. O am sure that I am not in isolation. We have to start learning Sanskrit and read our epics, Vedas upanishads bhagavath geetha and others apart from hearing to this type of presentations.Special thanks again to Sree Iyerji for your invaluable work with a request to see that true history books from elementary to highest level is brought out without waiting for government to do it as nothing happened in the last 6 years. To liberate Hindu temples from government clutches .

Namaste amazing interview 🙏😀 this has inspired me a lot to learn more about my civilization.

Fascinating. Satyam eva jayate.

The title should be what he says around 19:10-13: Maybe who knows. I came here thinking this was serious scholarship but all I saw was some guess work that tries to fit the story based on Rigveda. He is starting with a conclusion that Rigveda must be older than Indus Valley Civilization, so he is pushing back the dates of Rigveda further into past to fit his religious belief.

It is a very new interpretation,worth considering deeply. Congrats

Looking to ancient history is too much defragmented. But Saraswati civilization looks to be the glue to all those. World need to give over civilization proper place.

Amazing information. Thanks for sharing.

Interesting. Doctor SKR speaks so well.

If anything is good, the Brahmins will write some story connecting to it and claim it to be their own. In the same way, the Vedas came to have all the technological and scientific knowledge humans ever needed including the Theory of Relativity, Genetic Cloning, modern medicine, and so on!

Kalyanmama rocks!!!!

Xlnt sr.vr new nd argumentatve research.nice.u r like modern rishi/prof of modern india

Amazing..

Thank you, sir. Could you please provide sub-titles.

Where is the link to Dr. S Kalyanaraman's website?

This discourse by Seer and Historian Shrii P R Sarkarji needs further scientific investigation : From the study of history, it is known that the Rgveda was composed outside India, mainly in Central Asia and Russia. The Yajurveda was written mostly outside India; only a portion was written in India. And the Atharvaveda was composed in Afghanistan and India. Those three Vedas - Rk, Yaju and Atharva - long afterwards, say about 3500 years ago - were edited and divided into different branches by Maharshi Krishadvaipayana Vyasa. The oldest compositions were named Rgveda, the intermediate portions were called Yajurveda, and the remaining portions were named Atharvaveda. The last-named Veda was named after the great sage, Atharva, the first author of this Veda. And by compiling the musical compositions of the three Vedas, yet another Veda - the Sámaveda, the fourth Veda - was created. Sáma in Sanskrit means “musical composition”. The Sámaveda itself is not a Veda. Sadáshiva was born at a time when the age of the Rgveda was coming to an end and the Yajurvedic Age was about to begin. The people had not yet invented script. In the days of Shiva, the serious disadvantage was that, although the people were acquainted with the science of phonetics, that is, the intonations of the letters, they did not know how to write [[letters]]. The Bráhmii and Kharośt́hi scripts were invented some time after Shiva. Thus we can generally say that the Vedas and Tantras exercised their mutual influence over each other, through the invention of script, only at the time of the Atharvaveda. The external form that was given to Tantra by Shiva in His time underwent a slight transformation in subsequent periods. You may raise the question - well, when the goal is the same, when the path is also the same, then why this transformation? The only cause was: there was no written book in those days. All the compositions - both Vedas and Tantras - were handed down orally from one generation to another. As a result, there arose a difference of opinion among the teachers themselves - one teacher or muni [seer] would say one thing, and another muni would say something else. Now although letters were invented during the age of the Atharvaveda, the Vedas could not be written down due to one obstacle - a peculiar superstition (better to call it a dogma) that the Vedas should not be written down. Maharshi Atharvaʼs followers - Aungirá, Aungirasa, Satyaváha, Vaedarbhi, etc. - tried for the first time to get the Vedas written down in letters, but they were not courageous enough to do so because it was forbidden. (The very name of Vaedarbhi suggests that he was a resident of Vidarbha, and in India, particularly in the Vidarbha area, the Atharvaveda was partly written. Hence it is not proper to assume that the entire Veda was written outside India.) The Vedas were called shruti because they had to be mastered only by hearing: letters had not yet been invented. But once the script was invented, what could be the reason for not writing down the Vedas? The problem was the superstition, and the scholars did not dare to defy the superstition. -- From: All Bask in the Glory of Shiva - 1 (Discourse 6) Published in: Namah Shiváya Shántáya

Awesome work.....👏👏 More research needs to be done by Indian scientists and archeologists to unravel the true greatness of ancient Indian civilization

Great 🚩👍

Thank you Sir for enshrining this wisdom here..

A catamaran (/ˌkætəməˈræn/) (informally, a "cat") is a multi-hulled watercraft featuring two parallel hulls of equal size. It is a geometry-stabilized craft, deriving its stability from its wide beam, rather than from a ballasted keel as with a monohull sailboat. Catamaran is from a Tamil word, kattumaram, which means "logs tied together". Why bring Aryan rig veda into Indus scripture which is not deciphered

Excellent.

Mrugendra Vinod ji has also done analysis on the harrapan motifs, worth watching. I think there needs to be some linking together of all these workers to come to some form of consensus based on present knowledge. Otherwise we end up with different interpretations leading to the whole venture of each worker as contestable and untrustworthy. Didn't Shrikant Taligeri do some work on this, too.

Great knowledge by both Saint sadhuvad.

Wow-Khetri copper mines being so old. Seems it got disused and restarted unde4 Hindustan copper. Which boosted transport from Delhi to Khetri via Narnaul Haryana.

wow...what an amazing content. Rigveda was at least 6000-7000 years? metallurgy was so advanced we made fine quality alloy metals and supplied to egypt. next time IF someone demeans Hindu civilization and brags about their 2000 yrs old history, I have better knowledge to squash them.

25:00 there was a migration of people from southeast Asia into NE (Assam?). Could this have been related to the Tin trade?

The University of Heidelberg has examined and found that the Tin Ingots of Haifa were mined from Cornwall, UK.

Mind blogging. The available technology should help us to create the proof document. Thanks to Dr. Kalyanaraman and Pguru

Its a criminal negligence from our educational setups in India whom had not included these in our history texts for our generations to study it and understand our country and its ancient historical achievements. I think this negligence is done deliberately to keep our future generations from these remarkable history and according to me omitting such facts is antinational and a criminal act...thanks a lot Pgurus..thank you..

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Ms. Rekha Rao has a different explanation about the harappan seals. May be you invite Shri Kalyanaramanjee to shed some light on her research also.

River Saraswati's timeline is 50,000 to 1,00,000 years BC ... please see Nilesh Nilakanth Oak's KZfaq videos...

Has his research paper been published in any journal of archaeology of international level , or so ? Has his claim been accepted by the scholars of international fame beyond any doubts ? Actually several thousand claims on deciphering the Indus script have been made so far , but all are just on mere guessing ! We have to wait till something like a Rosetta stone is found for the deciphering . Thanks.

We should create a platform with a group of like minded people,approach HRD department with the help of PMO office to reform our history textbooks in accordance with new findings.Major part of history needs to detail about 10000 BC to 800AD.

It’s Tamil

No. Still a long way to go

I am interested to know the evolution of Sanskrit and the time line that relates to Saraswathi Civilisation trade seals

There are so many deemed Universities in India. Why one of them, does not give, a department/ chair do such a distinguished person like kalyanraman to do further work ? Thanks we such good learned men like Dr kalyanraman in India.

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Incredible study of Indus valley symbology! I guess this should settle that Indus valley people were using Sanskrit words such as dhatu, mukha etc. to signify the contents of the ingots. Hopefully the bogus AIT that Aryans came to Indus valley with Sanskrit/PIE and destroyed IVC would be put to rest. I wonder why no written texts are found in IVC with contemporary literature? Is it because written language wasn't invented and literature was created and transmitted only orally? Seems odd.

to me it looks like human civilization is 'interrelated' between different cultures/areas each affecting gradual rise of human civilization from a) hunter gatherer and stone wood tools b) farming community again using wood stone and some metal domesticated animals and seeds c) cities spring up with surplus food and time ( time to build invent ) d) industrial revolution e) modern era . side by side math and writing evolved due to need need to build structures ships keep accounts so we have use of fingers to say how many or draw lines ( represent fingers ) later these lines transform to a letter or 'number' in communication it starts with picture stick man means person fish means fish a wave means water tree means tree then the tree started to mean the sound 't' look at construction of t still looks like picture of tree now these sounds could be combined and one could decipher a written code of sound hence written word here we have reading/writing

How old is the oldest Manuscript of veda ever found ?

Mahodaya, why don't you have an interview with Nilesh Oak?

It is really we had a great n illustrious past as indeed it was yes we should be proud of it.but let us face reality now! How do we translate these great achievements to the profit of the present time? There is no time to waste , let us get together for the upliftment n progress of our country .whoever has done good incorporate it , even if it was by our enemy! Shun what was not good in the past, n now b focus to the improvement n success of the country for the live of the country that is the only thing n the need of the hour.let us galvanise ourselves , together n only then we will taste success

How many seals have been decoded until now?

For those who are not trained in history as an academician-- There is no academic consensus on any decipherment of Harappan script. So beware. It's only his interpretation.

No point trying to prove if Indus script was Dravidian or Aryan, Tamil or Sanskrit. That is all guesswork. One thing is for sure, the term Aryan has deep roots in Persia. Before the rise of Islam and Arabia (600 AD), Persia flourished in and around the areas of Iran, Balochistan, Pakistan and NW India. Everyone knows that. Persians are not ethnically Arabians, they had to flee Islam and Arabs. What people dont know is the word "Iran" means "Land of Aryans" in Farsi, and Hindi is 30-40% Farsi, which we all learned in school. Even much before the time of Alexander the Great, Persia used to trade and war with Europe. And we know that Indus Valley used to trade with Mesopotamia. So there was obvious interchange between Iranian, Sumerian, Mesopotamian and Indic/Dravidian cultures. That is why we see terms like Indo-Iranian, Indo-Aryan, Proto-Indo European, etc. Even if one does not believe in Aryan migration theory, it is inevitable. Language and History proves it. One cannot simply use an umbrella term like Aryan and claim it for one single ethnicity. If you are Aryan, part or full, you belong to the Persian gene pool. Tamil on the other hand has similarities with Australian aboriginal languages, and more remarkably, Korean. More than 500 Korean words have the same pronunciation and meaning as Tamil words. This ties it to the Ayodhya/Ayuta Indian princess who travelled to marry the Korean emperor, since the ancient name of Kanyakumari was Ayuta. This Sanskrit vs Tamil, Aryan/Persian vs Dravidian debate occurs simply because of the shape of the Indian subcontinent. Think about it. North Western parts have seen maximum invasion/migration, while down South there are no landmasses but only ocean.

they write with hyperglyphics and also picture ( for those who could not read)

30:00 Egypt

KALYNARAMAN IS NEITHER A LINGUISTICS NOR A ARCHAELOGIST BUT A HINDUTUVA SANSKRIT PURANIC PROPONENTS .

Google search/Indus era 8000 years old

The aryans living along saraswati river are called saraswats who knew vedas and ate fish from river migrated after river dried are now found scattered in areas of Haryana bengal gujrat and konkan

वेद अनादिअनन्त नित्य हैँ ।वह ईश्वर का ज्ञान है उनका प्रकाश होता है रचना नहीँ।।

Pota poyadam in Telugu means metal casting.

Very interesting hypothesis. I think harappans only invented sanskrit and vedas over the millennia.

There is an infight between archipelago ist and the historians to claim the heritage.those brahmin leaned persones will say this is Aryans and sanskrit originals .the problem is Ramayana and Mahabharata its historical timing. These people wants to tag indus to contribution of Aryans and descendents of indus.they forget about other civilised people like Mesopotamia etc .

One question - If Mahabharata as claimed is supposed to predate Indus civilization and Sanskrit was being heavily used in that era then why were Indus people using a new script? If the Indus era followed after Mahabharata then after getting destroyed the rest of India resumed usage of sanskrit. The order claimed is Sanskri>Indus script>sanskrit, which seems unreal and illogical.

Indus Valley Civilization has nothing to do with Vedic people.

Hope this theory is backed by some facts..

Though I don't believe in invasion theory, but it is beyond doubt that Indo Aryans rigvedic people were migrants and came during 1900bce to 1600 bce.

Dr. S. Kalayanaraman is indeed a versatile scientist and has vast knowledge. But I have one objection. After the demise of the Indus civilization, not a single seal was produced in the last 4000 years. This is appalling. Talking about the past is one thing but the reality is something else. It meant just one thing. Everything about the Indus Valley was purposely discarded because they were not Vedic in origin. It was considered an abomination. The Indus seals belonged to an enemy. No one even searched for them. It was only when the British came to India in search of treasures and relics that the Indus seals and pottery appeared. Not single scholar in the last 4000 years even hinted that there was a lost civilization called the Harappan civilization. The other serious objection I have against Dr. Kalyanaraman's presentation is that the language of the Indus Valley could not have been Sanskrit. It is impossible to read the Indus script in Sanskrit. The language was Archaic Tamil. I have great respect for the venerable Dr. Kalyanaraman, but I have been working with the Indus script for more than 40 years and I have deciphered 4 signs of the Indus script. The language cannot be Sanskrit. It is Archaic Tamil. Archaic Tamil was also the language of Sumer in Mesopotamia. Lastly, despite so much support for the Sarasvati river civilization, I personally feel that it was not in India. The Indus Civilization was destroyed. Everything was buried. Objects of use are never buried. They are used again and again and become heirlooms. Nobody lived to use them. Everyone perished.

And goat in Telugu is Meka.

Rig veda is old, but rig veda don't talk about South India or it's ppl and civilization. Tamils had copper and sea faring capabilities from antiquity. Egyptians came here for pepper for thousands of years. Sanskrit lover will not like to speak about this.

Watching it second time, and it mesmerises me to the same extent yet again ! The conclusion dialogue- How Sarswati can be two places at once? Is a bit funny, as River was so big- infact why only 2 places? Look at Ganga today, isn't it present at Haridvar, Banaras and Kolkata too! Same thing about any big river, Brahmputra, Nile, Amazon...Sir Kalyanraman won the biggest respect of my heart when He said, "my grandmother told me the 3 rivers met at Prayag, why would I disbelieve her?" This disbelief in our ancestors or elders' sayings is the starting point from where we started loosing our history and roaming confusedly asking foreign universities/ invaders to tell us who we are rather then listen to what our elders at home said...