Is there anything Bill Simmons won’t turn into a draft ? 😅

"If Kyrie goes to Dallas, Dallas." Lmao

It’s gunna be a crazy off season. New CBA is a nightmare. Lots of teams think they are one player away so they will be aggressive. Teams going to have to develop rosters with true centres as Jokic, Embiid and now Wemby change the league. Bob Meyers has always been ahead of the curve and his move was to QUIT.

I’m a wizards fan, i have no idea how we weren’t selected higher truly baffled. A true sleeper

I loved that “Nah we’re fine” from Bill about Isaiah. Totally a “we’re fine but don’t ask about it because I’ll have to prove we’re fine and we probably aren’t” 😂.

Hawks for sure would be by underrated pick 1. Reduced number of assets/picks 2. DJ Murray invetably going to test free agency 3. Salary cap is eaten up basically by Trae / Capella / Collins / Hunter 4. Need to resign Okongwu and Bey to extensions in a couple years too 5. In a basically win now mode but really awful season by thei standards 6. Trae is allegedy a very difficult pesonality fo teammates / coach 7. I dont think the owner has ever paid the luxury tax - thats a big question to answer Luckily they got an elite coach but itll be intersting to see how they manuevere.

These are fun. Doesn’t mean much but definitely entertaining to listen.

"na we're fine" about Zeke lmaoo

I was a little surprised neither took Toronto. I just feel like their team if brought back is stuck in no mans land.

Glad you guys did this again, I hope it's a yearly topic

Always love a draft video!!

It’s so funny how much kyrie simply tanks an entire team

First time here watching the podcast. 👍🏽keep up the good work!

I'm not sure why the hesitation in the Mavs GM job being tough. No big names voluntarily want to play there for a set of reasons and the culture of the front office has not been fixed even after a few very public cases. They've also backed themselves into a hole by poor evaluation of Brunson and a bench thinning Kyrie trade.

How can Atlanta not be on the list?

Watching this now, their recap draft and their current draft it's amazing how far off they were. Their picks sounded like the top of the standings 3/7/24 lol. Hindsight 20/20 !

Ryan looks soulless 😭 get some rest my man

Love these videos

I think Dame with Edwards would be magical. Max Reid can fill KAT’s spot! He did for most of this last season

Having Anthony Edwards makes up for figuring out what to do with Gobert in my mind if there were a prospective GM assessing a move to Minnesota.

Houston is the hardest to figure out cuz they have multiple guys that’s could stay Medicre or make this take look dumb next year if all went perfect. Their upsides Jalen Green- Ant Edwards, K-Mart- Aaron Gordon, Jabari Smith Jr - JJJ, Sengun - Sabonis, Tari Eason- Jaden McDaniels

"they have Tobias Harris" killed me haha 20:45

“It’s like ozempic jokic” hilarious

Trick question... Whoever ends up hiring Doc will be the de facto worst GM job. The definition of futility is having Doc at the helm.

It would have been interesting for you guys to delve further into why you were so wrong with last year's picks and what the real GM's did to turn things around that you guys didn't anticipate. It turned out those GM jobs weren't bad, they just had to be handled properly Sacramento Washington Phoenix Lakers Portland Utah Philadelphia Brooklyn Charlotte Atlanta

Funny watching the talk about Washington post-Beal trade 😂

That Harden joke that ends the next video of Jokic/Jimmy all-time ranking hits harder after watching the beginning of this video.

The hardest part of Minnesota's decision is grappling with the new cba. Making the choice to trade KAT, who has been loyal, will be heavily scrutinized. Every fan has a different opinion and TC is guaranteed to piss off >50% of the fan base no matter what.

I wish there was a playlist on KZfaq where they collect anything bill and ryen do together.

“Even if you want to get outta the Beal business” 😂😂

I still want an explanation as to why Ryen Rusillo was the only vote for cade Cunningham as rookie of the year and not scottie barnes

My screen was stuck loading on Rusillo's intro yawn and I felt that

I’m really surprised that Atlanta wasn’t mentioned at all in this clip lol

With the new CBA, I’d think the worst GM jobs are those where the team already has money committed to a first or second option player that’s either overpaid or consistently disappears in the playoffs, ie, Toronto with Siakam, Knicks with Randle, GSW with Klay, Bucks with Middleton.

I think they missed two sleeper picks. I know they take more into account than just the roster but something about Philly and Milwaukee seems very volatile to me. For Philly, if Harden leaves, what do you do with Embiid? If no superstar becomes available, how do they replace Harden and get another star next to Embiid. Or do you just trade Embiid altogether and rebuild around Maxey? And then they have to figure out what to do with Tobias Harris as well as also pay Maxey, which isn't too bad, but it'll be a lot worse if they also resign Harden, they'll have little to no money left to reshape the roster. For Milwaukee, it's just simply the fact that they have the oldest roster in the league by far. They have good talent, but eventually age is going to catch up to guys like Lopez, Holiday, and Middleton, and then how do they retool the roster around Giannis to still compete? I wouldn't want to be put in either situation

With the new CBA, I'm surprised they didn't mention more of the teams at the 2nd apron that have murky future and no trade options. Warriors, Lakers, Sixers... They have at best one decent move left before the 2nd apron locks them down.

Minnesota 3rd worst GM was almost immediately a bad take going in the 23-24 season.

I think there are a couple more times that could have been mentioned. One is Atlanta, with those traded picks, Trae Young and looming contract for Murray. The other is Phoenix, assuming they can not trade Ayton to Indiana for Turner and Hield. Another option would be trade Paul and some pick to the Magic for Gary Harris and Cole Anthony. Those two trades would create more versatility and depth for the team.

Atlanta should be on here

for me it would be either Memphis or Twolves. if a team is bad or coming up short, you can makes moves to do something about it. what do you do when the entire culture of the organization and players, especially your best players, are immature and soft but the players are also extremely young and talented? the thought of being the GM and having to think about trading Ja or KAT could be a career ending move for a young GM like MN and Memphis has.

The sound Bill made when Ryen mentioned Marcus Morris is the sound ive been making as a clipper fan every time he touches the court 😭 It just gets worse and worse every season. First when they traded for him, then they extended him on a ridiculous contract, and then completely overplayed him over more deserving players especially this year. While the coaches and front office act like he is the key to this team. If he isnt gone this offseason lord have mercy. If the people making these decision watch his film and think anything different then nba executive arent as smart as id like to think

Nice content. I can't see Charlotte trading LaMelo, though what are your thoughts on AD to Charlotte for Hayward, Williams, McGowens, the #2 2023 pick, and 1-2 future first round pick swaps with no protections? I think of all the organisations Charlottle is the most likely to make this type of a deal as AD would up the value proposition of Charlotte, and the Lakers if they were smart would give themselves future flexibility once LeBron actually retires.

Is the mavs. The way i see it, you have 1 last year to keep Luka interested in playing for your franchise. If he is home at this time next year, he will request a trade probably.

As a Kings fan I’m so happy about this 😂 1st last year and we’re not on the list this year. My number 1 pick would be the Lakers. Year after year it’s a struggle to get a roster together, they went to the west final but what about next year? Do you run it back or overhaul the roster again to try and compete? Not a fun job

Really surprised no one mentioned the hawks. In my opinion the hawks are in a much much worse spot than the pelicans. Also, as a knicks fan, I think we have to be in the consideration. I know we should be excited about the recent playoff run and having a guy like Brunson, but the team is really stuck in no mans land. What do you do with randle? Will rj barrett really take a huge jump, or continue to be a good, not great player? What about having a horrible owner? I get the appeal of having a good fanbase and being in New York, but the past few decades have shown that the supposed incentives of being in New York doesn’t really translate in landing stars in free agency/trades, except for melo. Yes Brunson is a great player, we have some decent young talent, but the roster is still pretty far from being able to realistically compete

Why would Charlotte want to trade lamelo ?? When healthy dude is a all star easily was on his way to having his best season last year until the injury…. Injuries are a concern but I’m not trading him for brown straight up if I’m Charlotte

We need a fake trades episode or free agent predictions!

Watching this 8months later you understand why these two are just talking heads..

Wizards by far

Ty Lue has got to be the only coach in major league sports today being held against his will lol. Why would anyone want to coach a bunch of guys who literally play when they feel like it

Can anyone find on KZfaq? The discussion they are referencing at 10:55 ? Thanks

they did a really good job avoiding Udoka being Houston. it’s ok guys we get it, have fun with mazzulla and paying the J’s 600M+ lol

As a Bulls fan it's an easy fix. 1. Trade Demar and Lavine for picks / cap space 2. See what Coby White, Patrick Williams, and Ayo Dosunmu can do with more shots and higher usage - can they prove that they're more than role players? If they can you're in a good spot because now you have some legit young players and picks from trading Lavine / Demar 3. If number 2 doesn't work out, further gut the team and rebuild from scratch - you also have additional picks from trading Lavine / Demar

Ozempic Jokic 🤣🤣🤣

7:23 "Don't trust Towns." Amen to that. The Gobert trade *might* have worked if Towns had his head in the game, but sheesh Towns brought NOTHING to that. For 1 quarter in the first round they ran Towns-Gobert pick and roll against Denver and scorched them. Then they moved away from it.

Hey, doesn't Toronto have a Siakam decision, a vanvleet decision, a Gary Trent Jr decision and a looming og annunoby decision? No coach. Traded two firsts for Thad young and Jakob poetel. Two timelines

Definitely would’ve picked the hawks over Houston imo

That Vucevic trade is looking more terrible by the day. Imagine if the Bulls had Carter, Wagner, and probably Jordan Hawkins, Wallace, or Hendricks etc. (a really nice player at 11 this year!). They could then comfortably trade Derozan or Lavine with offense to backup the trade.

I think I would rather have the Dallas job over Golden State. The Draymond Green and Klay Thompson stuff they are going to have to deal with coming up and not be easy for a GM... And do you move on from poole...?

Don’t know how the hawks weren’t on this list

Surprised Philly wasn't higher. They might have to max Maxey, if they let Harden go that doesn't really give them space (~$10M at most) to replace him, and if they use Harris as an expiring out for a team, who do they get back that actually helps?

Bill and Ryen are both hilarious absolutely tearing these teams and players to shreds. This is a classic episode. We need this on mainstream TV .

Thank god we have ANT. Have lots of time to get the roster shaped around him.

Bill don’t wanna talk about brunson after making fun of the signing smh

I listened to the whole podcast. On the Lillard trade, if the Heat lose they would be more enticed to do a trade so Lillard for Lowry expiring, Herro, Jovic, ‘27 1st, ‘29 and two second round picks. Miami has a smaller window so those picks should be good.

Draft Results: #1 Hornets (Ryen) #2 Bulls (Bill) #3 TWolves (Ryen) #4 Clippers (Bill) #5 Wizards (Ryen) #6 Rockets (Bill) #7 Mavericks (Ryen) #8 Nets (Bill)

What’s so bad about Lamelo? Can some1 tell me why they were dissing him?

The only cure for Brooklyn is if Scoot falls to #3 and Portland approaches Joe Tsai with Bill’s exact statement of the Nets dating back to Prokhorov, while saying hey you can restart this whole thing with a superstar PG in NY with scoot, have Anfernee Simons next to him, and Nurk to help keep you from bottoming out completely with some future 1st’s and 2nd’s for Mikal Bridges/Nic Claxton/Royce Oneale

Sacramento was once a high pick. My, how the turn tables.

Before this starts, I'm curious about where Bill puts the Sixers considering that he's buddies with Daryl Morey.

Portland has zero interest in KAT. Not for Dame, not for the number three pick, not even for Nurkic. Plus Minnesota has no future picks to trade in any of these scenarios.

They were so wrong 😂😂

If Im coming in as the new GM, I don't mind going to Chicago or Minnesota. I'd have lots of fun blowing those teams up except for Ant Edwards.........both teams have a lot of pieces that can bring value back......I might even see if Edwards and Gobert could work together sans Towns before shipping Gobert out lol

Ryen has some darn good points about my Bulls in many ways, unfortunately. Though I wish Ryen and other commentators would stop dumping on Nikola Vucevic, he could almost fill a role like Al Hereford, at the right price ( and if he had the skill set and talent level, so I get what Ryen meant ). A few of the younger Bulls have good enough potential, but the way the team all crumbled under pressure and in the play offs worries me as a fan. Levine is a serviceable first option, if you had a more complimentary second star. Ryen is also right about how the Bulls owners are tight with the payroll, and the lack of good draft picks does not help. 11:52 I hope Bill has not "ironed things out" and is not "fine" with Isaiah Thomas, because Isaiah is a low down dirty snake - being "fine" with such an individual would lower my opinion of Bill. lel

I'd like to see the Bulls go after Shaeden Sharpe and The 3rd Picks as well as LaMelo and The 2nd Pick, IF possible I could see The Warriors and Bulls making a move

How about the draft draft? Mt Rushmore: NFL draft, WW2 draft, NBA draft, that draft in the attic you can't find the source of Worst drafts: baseball, Vietnam

surprised that neither of them mentioned the Toronto Raptors.

The Warriors would be my #1 pick. Trading away all their youth assests & choosing old guys like Draymond, Klay & CP3 is gonna prove to be a huge mistake for them over the next 2 seasons. Then once Steph retires, its over for the W's.

Timberwolves arent as bad as it seems imo. You didnt really get much with your main guys healthy last year, and still you were one blown lead from besting the Lakers for the 7th seed. And then did better than them against Denver. You can trade Kat to a contender for quite a bit still if you want. You have Ant and Jalen as your core. Hopefully Naz Reid. Gobert is there but he can still anchor a regular season defense. Small market, so Ant as your superstar and being a 5-8 seed until the Gobert deal runs out. Theb yiu try to contend with Ant in his prime after some decent signings or trades. Its not good, but definitely salvageable.

Honestly I was hoping you would pick Golden State the entire time. You may think what the fuck are you talking about, they have Steph, Klay, Draymond, Wiggins, they fought a good series against the Lakers. But the wheels are coming off, slowly, but the screws are turning in the wrong direction. You are in salary cap hell with the Jordan Poole extension plus the ruined chemestry between at least two teammates. You just lost your priced GM who also had a special relationship with Draymond, who is on record saying it WILL impact his contract extension talks in a significant way who is not on the Steph Curry/Tim Duncan levels on keeping team chemestry afloat and staying silent the whole time. Did I mention the Poole extension? Yeah, good luck attaching draft picks just for trading this contract if he doesnt improve. You have an ageing core who is kinda injury prone, you are deep into the luxury tax with the new CBA rules kicking in, you have chemestry issues at least lingering and the owner talking about promoting his son to a significant role (when did that strategy ever fail?). Forgive the bad movie anology but this feels like the cliff in "Thelma and Louise" where Bob Myers got out of the car, seats you behind the wheel, gives you a pat on the back and tells you "the future is right ahead son, keep driving". Don´t ask why he had to put a cinder block on the gas pedal (JP 130 mio contract) though.

It would be hard to replace the Harden asset for Philly. That hollow, scared, please-don't-make-me-shoot-it face is hard to find. Who else can turn the ball over in the playoffs like he doesn't care AND not play any defense? Shrinkage like that is premium. George Costanza maybe?

Minnesota are actually in a good position to battle Denver in the next 2-3 seasons roster wise. Ant growing his game and having couple good pieces already around him with KAT and Gobert they are prime for a good run next year. I would like them to trade KAT for any big or wing with more hardness to his game or really impactful role-player.

As a bulls fan I also feel like we are lost in the wilderness ( I am also not a Zach Lavine guy, he’s a nice player but he’s overpaid and I’m burnt out of him )

I love the Dallas pick. They’re the definition of “Damned if you do, and damned if you don’t”. Either way, you’re damned.

Surprised no one took ATL, with all the Morant problems.

Commenting before I watch. If Bobby Webster/Masai isn't on here, i'll be disappointed.

Everytime i listen to you two chit chat, i find myself wishing we were friends. 😊

Pacers are in good shape. They have two young players to build around, draft assets and cap space, and no bad contracts. Teams trying to get under the new CBA tax aprons will be calling them.

That Wolves pick not looking great in retrospect. Taylor as an owner is a massive drag though.

Wolves could trade Kat and also McDaniels and then be loaded with assets.

I think the Miami Heat is an underrated horrible GM job... I know the owner cares about winning and competing every year, so that's great. But when I think about the top talent on that team, their assets, it's really underwhelming (if I'm thinking about next year). Jimmy will decline. Lowry has already declined. Herro seems over paid. Their undrafted diamonds in the rough have played well enough to get bigger contracts in the future (but will likely all be over paid). They'll have a bunch of Duncan Robinson contract-type problems. And I know Duncan is playing well now - but it feels like a team built around a bunch of mid level talent. And Bam as their top young talent seems to have hit his ceiling. He's very good, but clearly not a number 1 guy. I'm not saying I don't like the team - I root for these guys. But I think it's an enormously challenging GM problem waiting to happen. I think there's a thin line between them and what the Bulls are now (old top talent - no young prospects who you feel comfortable paying a max contract).

Atlanta hawks should def been on the board imo

Houston owns every Brooklyn pick through 2027 they are not at all a worse situtation than Brooklyn

honestly shocked the Toronto Raptors didn't make the list. We're a directionless mess.

Portland went from worst to hell ya I’ll take that job. Shaedon sharpe baby!!!

Simmons makes 40 million each of next 2 seasons. Zion makes 40 million each of next 5 seasons. I’d rather have Nets situation than Pelicans.

That’s stone cold Steve Austin “reeves” to you

i want to watch the clip of isaiah talking about expiring contracts if anyone has that...

Bill with the Casino Royale pull because he just did a Rewatchables.

Minnesota made themselves a nightmare with one stroke, the Golbert trade. With a new GM I think. Bad move.