Joe House is missing for this, as he's busy driving Beal to the airport.

I love when these guys get together and talk hoops so much more nuanced then your regular media ESPN and FS1

I am shocked, shocked I tell you, that Simmons brought up a Celtics team.

Phoenix had to do this. They’d have to fill out their roster the exact same way, regardless of doing this deal. This is basically Shamet and 6 seconds for Beal. CP3 wasn’t going to come back, regardless. The KD deal sealed their fate. Instead of having KD, Booker, and Shamet with a bunch of minimums, they get KD, Booker, and Beal with a bunch of minimums and whatever they get for or from Ayton.

Is Joe House punching walls right now?

"Who's gonna guard tatum in the finals?" lol, Tatum guards himself in the finals/conference finals Bill

Impressive how Beal is only 1 year older than Zach Lavine. I thought he was way older than he actually is

House is thrilled for the rebuild

“Hulk Hogan still looks like he’s Hulk Hogan even tho he’s not Hulk Hogan”. Phenomenal

As a Suns fan I know this isn't going to happen but to me the best use of Beal is how the Spurs used Manu Ginobili. Having him come off of the bench, still playing 32-34 minutes, to me would be the best use of Beal. It allows you to stagger Durant and Booker minutes so they always have at least some combination of Durant/Booker/Beal, it gives you a strong bench player who can get you points, maybe protects his body more. They also need to have an offense more similar to the Warriors, a motion based offense, so it's less iso focused. Booker and Durant are great iso players but they could make their lives easier running more motion. As a Suns fan, I can dream, it's about all we can do.

Word outa Washington is that Beal is an excellent facilitator and can help fill that role with the Suns.

Suns screwed up not trading Ayton and Crowder to Atlanta for Collins and Capela. Both teams wanted to get off these assets, and Phx never used Ayton offensively for anything more than what Capela would have given them.

the nba is in a great place where teams can't just build/pay for/trade their way to a title. Despite how great this trio looks on paper, i'm not sold they'll win the finals next year, let alone even make it.

Wizards did a good move by trading Beal. Now they have cap space to absorb bad contracts attached with 1st round picks. They’ll also be top 5 in the draft lottery for the next 2-3 years

Bradley Beal is going to have no excuse. He’s going to get some seriously good looks at the basket, most teams don’t have the defensive capabilities to defend kd or Booker as individuals never mind them both being on the court together. If your a 50million guy you better succeed in this situation.

Bill’s Mad Dog impression was impressive

Ryen just looks like he’s confused and stressed the whole video😂

The Wizards front office was hamstrung so hard by their predecessors signing Beal to that ridiculous contract. So ridiculous that they just wanted him gone to start the rebuild in earnest.

Simmons with the on the fly God like metaphor. “Kevin Durant is Hulk Hogan.” The more I think about the more true it sounds

A Heat deal with Lowry and Duncan plus 2 picks would've been a lot better fit wise.

What you guys are forgetting is Beal came into the league as more of an off ball scorer who was compared to ray allen I think his 3p% goes up with more open looks and less usage he obviously could always shoot he has beautiful form

Alot of people are treating this trade with immense hate on both sides. Liked that you guys pointed out some points of good that could come from this for both sides :)

Even tho that contract is bad and Brad is basically exiting his prime it’s mind boggling they didn’t end up with at least Ayton or 1 first rounder ? Maybe even 2? I feel bad for wizards fan smh and I ain’t even one .. smh .. now to Phx these guys better win one cuz if not they gonna be another Brooklyn situation ..

He's just legit a worse+smaller DBook. So when push comes to shove you'd rather have Book doing isos. Then you'd rather have KD doing isos. He doesn't shoot 3s like you'd want. Just feels super redundant. With that being said hes definitely better and a better fit than CP and Shamet so it's interesting.

I don't understand why everyone is high on this trade tbh. Beal is injury prone and can't play defense.

I love Ryen n Bill together. They have great insight along with some comedic moments. Bradley Beal will thrive in this situation defenses cant focus on him. The conversation regarding Isaiah Thomas was hilarious. Suns will have a hard time winning the championship, but will be really good next year.

Keep posting NBA content in this channel, please. For me it's more fun. Thanks

I was wondering the same thing about the no-trade clause. Glad that got answered.

Im hyped for next season already!!!

Isiah Thomas didn't "zag," he "zeked." 😂 The Suns will be a Jekyll & Hyde team next season, brilliant at times when the scorers get cooking, but won't last long or into the playoffs as injuries and exhaustion catch up with them, compounded by not having enough depth and defense.

Beal I think is the unique type of star who can thrive as the #1 or #2 scoring option He just cant be the #1 or #2 player on a championship team I know that sounds contradictory but imagine Beal on the heat this year with bam and Jimmy where he might be the 3rd best player but he’s the #1 offensive option and that’s the unique aspect of beal’s game right now

Bill Simmons is crushing the content. Best journalist in the game hands down.

I really want bill to be on every episode I love his takes on sports I want to hear im talk about everything that happens and I love is biase thing he does with his celtics bcuz im that way with my bulls

Basically, it's the Sun's owner's way of saying he is coming for the Joker! Seeing the team that beats your team after being picked as the favorites, just won the championship and the very man that put you to the ground was named Finals MVP, Joker might have left him a really bad taste. 😂

They should have traded Ayton first. Timing was key here, bad trade for Phoenix

if only phoenix took Haliburton instead of Jalen Smith 3 years ago....

Ryen, ATCQ FOREVER!!! 😉 Midnight was absolutely their best work. Top 5 HIP-HOP album of all-time.

What's ridiculous about this is the previous FO not unloading Beal before needing to give a no-trade clause just to grasp onto any eventual trade compensation. Not getting in on this current draft in exchange for being a middle team and getting some 2nds should be considered criminal.

Dumping beal and letting both kuz and porzingis walk in 3 years will be a GENIUS move. Washington is guaranteed to have top 5 picks and by bottoing out the books can absorb contracts for extra picks. All they have to do is nail their drafts

Suns we’re gonna be snapshot in amber whether they had Beal or didn’t have Beal so might as well Beal

There's no defensive wing, they all need the ball to be effective and there's no depth. Also, no one wants Ayton, even Phoenix. Gonna be interesting.

As a way of cutting back on Durant's minutes, i think it can work. They will need to get lucky with minimum salary guys though.

i just think the upgrade is worth the price in the first couple of years of this massive contract just because i prefer Beal taking those open shots Okogie and Craig were taking. I know that the defense will force whoever the 4th/5th guy will be in the lineup to take those shots next season anyway but there were so many times the Suns missed having the third option when CP3 was hurt. And sure Beal is more of a scorer than a shooter but I'm sure there will be plenty of times he will be setting the offense and producing catch and shoot opportunities for Booker and Durant. Health is my biggest fear with the squad, not fit

Hilarious that bill doesn’t bring up KD playing with all these all stars. If it were Bron he would try and say that’s why he isn’t the GOAT

When a star doesn’t leave in free agency, it usually means the front office has given him assurances that he can leave if he is not happy ‘just stay pleeeeease’

Recap: wizards were idiots for giving away Beal. Suns were idiots for taking him

ok, i'm pretty low on beal, but saying beal wouldn't make much of a difference over landry shamet is lower than i've been on beal since his rookie year LOL

This years playoffs showed the importance of defense. The Heat, Lakers and Celtics came in with great defensive teams and Denver turned it on in the playoffs. Who is this Phoenix team plan on stopping? How does this help them stop the Jokic Murray 2 man game in the last 5 minutes of a game?

Is it possible now for them, at the deadline, to trade Beal? Did that no - trade clause get waived for the whole of his contract, or just for this deal?

I guess I'm the only one who likes this move for Phoenix. They can now trade Ayton and get depth. We'll see how this plays out but to me Phoenix is a strong contender next season, and they gave up nothing (except a constantly hurt Chris Paul).

My assumption with this deal is that they're assuming KD will get hurt and Beal gives them a 2nd option when that happens. Either that, or they want to limit his minutes

Yeah, the Beal trade would’ve been amazing had they not done the KD trade. This is what it must’ve been like for the rest of the league when Isiah ran the Knicks.

As a long time Wizards fan there’s a dichotomy to everything in this discussion. When it comes to the wizards side the amalgamation of the Beal deal is an all time bad move; however, being able to get out of his contract in the situation we’re in is a positive. When it comes to the Phoenix side saying Beal can’t be an elite third option is asinine; however, it can be close to guaranteed that his injury history will lead to him costing them a series. If Phoenix’s big three is healthy they’re the best team in the west, but stamp it, they won’t be healthy.

I’m a suns fan and I absolutely hate what’s going on here right now. Like bill said, if we still had those picks along with bridges and Johnson, I think that would be the way to go.

I always thought the best setup is to have your 3rd scorer as someone great at playing without the ball like Klay, Ray Allen and so on

Haha this episode was perfect from top to bottom. When bill asks if the no trade clause is dead now and ryens like NO! No! Hahaha every point makes the trade even funnier 😂😂Gonna age better than Halle Barry

Here comes the Bill Simmons "I told you so 4 months ago" pod

Booker will have to really play point.

Long term, probably one of the worst trades ever done by the Suns. In one year, they have decimated their championship run team, only keeping Booker, Payne and Ayton. Beal is incredible but his role is a scorer. All the things the Suns need to compete he doesn’t bring to the table that hasn’t already been brought by Book and KD. New ownership is lost in the proverbial sauce

Booker and KD are both + playmakers. Book was 6.8 assists a game prior to CP3's arrival. And he's much better know. He was on ball a lot more in the playoffs.

If I’m the Suns management this is what I’m doing. Talk to KD,Beal,Book & Ayton: “All 4 of you will play together for 8 mins a night 4th quarters is Book & KD (primarily KD unless Beal or Book is hot)” “3 of you will play together for 18 mins a night with Ayton being the primary 3 man” “2 of you will play together for 40 mins a night” “All of you will play at least 36 mins a night the only exception will be KD” Talk to Beal & Book: “I need at least 50 pts & 12 assist with commitment to passing lanes & help defense” Talk to KD: “I need you to play 3 dribble basketball from every spot on the floor outside the paint. Post play included and I need you to learn how to give DHOs to Book & Beal” “Defensively, your cardio is off ball defense & defensive rebounding, I need you averaging 25, 8 & 4 with 8 boards all being defensive” Talk to Ayton: “I need one championship out of you, after that I’ll trade you wherever you want to go” “This is your audition to teams, 4 on the floor (P&R, DHOs, Defense & Rebounding) 3 on the floor (intro to mid & low post) 3rd option regulation 2 on the floor (DOMINATE) Sign NO ONE that is Older or smaller than Bradley Beal & guarantee a commitment to 3 point shooting, defense & rebounding prior to signing. Sign 2 rebounders & weight at least 260-270. 3 point shooting is a bonus. Talk to Vogel: “Defense & Rebounding is your priority, keep it simple. 2 man actions both on & off the ball, use everyone but Beal & Book as screeners” “Keep KD well rested in the regular season and as well rested as possible in the playoffs let Book & Beal lead the offense never let KD bring the ball up & give Ayton the free throw extended & paint use & challenge Ayton’s versatility Pre All Star break OT periods keep KD out! I don’t care what he say, count on Book, Beal & Ayton to bring us home”

Simply put, the Suns are going to be in contention for the next several years assuming they can stay healthy. That really SHOULD be the goal. KD knows he 'got dem boys' now, so he's going to be extremely motivated to cash out another chip before he's done. I like the move. The team remains competitive.

Bills mad dog impersonation, first time I’ve heard it and wow…spot on.

Thank you Ryen for stating what should've been obvious to the Suns' FO: They have long needed depth at the 1 to spell Chris Paul, so he could be fresh in the Playoffs.

I love this move for suns they fleeced the wizards and aren’t done yet still can make moves

Beal has averaged 23 ppg the last two seasons and has missed 72 games. Even the two years he averaged 30 ppg he missed 45 games. Between him and Durant being injury plagued I'd be a little worried they even make it somewhat healthy to the playoffs, let alone win a series or two.

They are severely underrating Beal’s playmaking

Lol the Beal disrespect is at all time levels, you can always tell who actually has watched him play

The Heati and the Lakers could not stop Denver either. The two best defensive teams.

Bill makes a great point about usage rate ... we thought Ayton was unhappy last year?! Dude has some game but will be relegated to just being a screen setter and rebounder, unless the Big 3 are willing to sacrifice major stats. I don't see it.

The salary cap is going up by another 75 million after next year. The Suns will be fine. The contracts for Booker, Beal, Durant will be underpaid contracts compared to guys making $60 million a year

PHX fans better hope these guys start the season fully conditioned and ready to go because they are going to have to log a lot of minutes throughout the season, not to mention how injury prone Durant and Beal have become. They are going to have no role players that will be able to "spell" them for long periods of time off the bench. If they trade Ayton and get some good role players and size it might work out. What's comical is how a lot the media (not including these guys) are now crowing them as next season's NBA champions. As a Nuggets fan, I love it because I know it motivates the hell out of the Nuggets when the press has already began pushing them down the totem pole of the NBA's elite teams only a few weeks after dismantling every team they faced in the playoffs. I hope the media continues to overlook the Nuggets next season as well. Kendrick Perkins and Skip Bayless would pick a 16 year old AAU team to beat Denver if they had the opportunity. The media as a whole are a joke.

i agree 100 with both them beal is just a scorer not a defender or playmaker which is what the suns need

Why do you guys not broadcast your videos on Spotify?

It would be amazing if these talking heads ever came back 12 months later and said “boy did I ever get that wrong!” 😂

Shitting on Phx when they make a good move Shocker

I love the earnest expressions on Bill and Ryen’s faces when the other is speaking. Great chemsitry between you 2 👏🏻

You guys are kind of forgetting the Beal gets to choose where he wants to go. Not much the Wizards could really do

As a KD super fan and Wizards fan. I don’t like this trade for either side. None of them are natural playmakers and I think all 3 will have to sacrifice too much of their game. Would’ve preferred the suns traded cp3 and Ayton in a package did for quality role players. Having said that, that’s a lot of offensive talent. From the wizards side - i don’t see how you just don’t keep Beal and run it back until he okays a better deal. I don’t see any point of resigned Kuz and Porzingis now

I think the Wiz front office jumped the gun when they could have found a better return had they just waited. Sure they're getting CP3's 30M that could come off the books but they could have found similar salary to come of their books. Miami would probably jump at a Lowry & Oladipo (a combined expiring 39M) plus Caleb Martin & Nikola Jovic plus 2 1sts for Beal & Taj Gibson. How about the Knicks with Rose & Fournier's salary,some 1sts plus a player like Quickley and/or Toppin? Everyone wants to keep pointing to Beal's no trade clause but had Washington gone to him saying "hey we found a couple playoff teams that would give you a much better chance of winning than here and we'd get a decent return for you" he'd probably have helped the team out there.

The Wizards didn't get a lot back, but think of it like an "undo" button. They never should have given Beal that much to begin with, now the contract is off their hands and they can start over.

I don’t love the move from phoenix standpoint cause your locked into this squad and have to fill out the rest of the team with mid level guys. Plus their issues were more so on the defensive end not offensively. You have D Book and KD, what phoenix needed was more grit players that don’t need the ball but are hustle players just who play hard all the time. But will be interesting to see of course if it can workout. I truly believe every player in the NBA has the necessary skills to play good defense cause if you are in the NBA you have basketball intelligence, athleticism and quickness speaking relative of course to be good enough and not just be lazy on that end of the court. If Frank Vogel can get KD and D Book to buy in defensively and Beal then they have a chance at winning the chip with Beal kinda having that Ray Allen Celtics game running off screens aka playing/moving without the ball more could possibly work.

And Vogel is not a good enough offensive coach to figure this out. Unless he has these guys play defense like they’ve never have in the past I don’t think it’ll work either. But if I’m a suns fan I’d be excited to see how it plays out.

Can’t help but think as a mavs fan that the mavs could’ve easily gotten a Beal trade without giving up the key players we sent away for Kyrie

bill is the type of guy who thinks fathers day actually exist and even more he deserves a gift

Bill saying Beal takingvthat contract is a red flag is crazy, who wouldnt take 50mil

Phoenix received a guy who will be available in the playoffs. That alone is an improvement for them. This will not be the only move. If DeAndre doesn't want to play more aggressive and doesn't want to accept being 3rd / 4th wheel? He will be traded for two 3 & D players.

Comparing KD now to Old Hulk Hogan is CRAZY 😂😂😂

The real mistake was the KD trade. They had no latitude to build any depth after that trade for a non tier-1 player. Getting Beal for Paul is a win considering the corner they had painted themselves into. But it might be too late anyway.

Don't forget jerome james and eventually channing frye ...thomas loved the bigs

The best trade ever with the old CBA and worst during the new CBA

5:32 how is Bradley Beal not gonna have the ball in his hand when he’s clearly going to be the point guard now

Beal is gonna be singing an REM song in Phoenix while he's standing in the corner

Beal's games last 4 seasons: 57. 60, 40, 50. Dude's not yet 30. Not only that, classic good player on bad team. Not a great spot up shooter. Not buying it.

2 words: Where's House?

I think the Suns will be really good defensively under Vogel. I think they should trade ayton immediately for role players. If they can get some good vets in return, I think they will be positioned nicely in the west.

Have Beale adjust his game to facilitate and play the point guard, like Bosh and Kevin Love adjusted to the stretch 5.

The thing is if KD, DBook & Beal guarantee you not just 25 a night with 38 mins a night and commit to the defensive end and rebounding religiously then Suns got a chance. The OKC route with KD and Russ & the rest defense and rebounding

So a role player that is exactly was that Suns needs

The Curry/KD/Klay was much better and a better fit than Brooker/KD/Beal.